Hi...
Does anyone knows if there is a way to install Android into the NAND on the Touch Dual????
It seems that there is no way to install Android in the nand at the moment.
you can try to make NBH from tinboot git repository, in some thread here I've even posted a patch, but, you will get bogous system with HUGE battery eat, no sound, no hw3d, and many other things. no devs are now interested in fixing bugs in kernel for our device.
yeah, don't try it, it still unstable to used on nand on your nike. still battery drain faster than winmo
Can't we use this method like Vogue use to install it in NAND?
like this one -> forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
in theory it should work now as we've got a good kernel and nand may be the same as the vogue's.... however i don't know how to build a .nbh and i wouldn't want to risk bricking my nike, which other people are feeling the same about i guess
i can risk my...
just build the nbh and i test it...
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hey guys,
please don't get angry with me.
I am just a newbie about upgrading PPC roms. (I was using PalmOS devşces for 6 years until last month)
On my Imate Jasjam I just made a "radio rom update" ; it works fine...
But when it comes to OS updates I am total newbie.
Now I plan to upgrade to WM6 rom but I am too excited. I don't know if I am "ok" to do it.
Do you think the WM6 rom for HTC Hermes works fine on Imate Jasjam ?
(as it is only OS update it should be, but just to be sure)
Any problems that may occur with my Jasjam ?
One other question is:
I know that I have to hard reset before the update. But then, can I restore from my "SK tools" backup over the WM6 OS ?
And last one:
I see on the Radio ROM page that there is a newer radio rom which has "GPS enabled" mark. Also, I see in some of the member's signatures :
"RADIO ROM: 1.35.00.11 (Trinity GPS enabled)"
What does that mean ? Is there really a GPS in all Hermes devices ? Should I only upgrade to that rom to be able to use it ?
Btw, I am sure that most of this is already discussed in one of those very long threads but I am very excited and I wanted to ask it directly.
So please don't flame me...
Thanks for your help.
Hey, there's almost a tacit rule that you have to do a certain amount of reading to be a bona fide member of XDA! Some of your questions indicate that you have done very little... where do you get the idea that you have to hard reset before doing an update!? Start at the WIKI!!
I'll give you this one though... it's an extremely bad idea to retore from a backup after updating the ROM.
Wam7 said:
Hey, there's almost a tacit rule that you have to do a certain amount of reading to be a bona fide member of XDA! Some of your questions indicate that you have done very little... where do you get the idea that you have to hard reset before doing an update!? Start at the WIKI!!
I'll give you this one though... it's an extremely bad idea to retore from a backup after updating the ROM.
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thank you.
however, I don't understand why it's a bad idea.
I have many apps installed.
To install them from scratch would be too difficult.
I don't think the places in the registry would be different in new rom.
am I wrong ?
my word of advice, If you're not willing to spend time, then upgrade the ROM is NOT for you.
btw, spend a day or 2 to read the WIKI & some of the stickies.
mrmrmrmr said:
thank you.
however, I don't understand why it's a bad idea.
I have many apps installed.
To install them from scratch would be too difficult.
I don't think the places in the registry would be different in new rom.
am I wrong ?
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You are wrong. As others have said, do some reading before you take the plunge. You'll be glad you did.
And if you keep CAB files on your external storage card, reinstalling apps isn't all that difficult. Trust me, I reflash ALL THE TIME and getting up and running after a flash only takes me about 10 mins. Of course, I don't use half the crap everyone else uses; I mainly stick to a few utils and my corporate email.
Thanks for all of your replies...
Mostly they are discouraging ((
I have read many threads about the upgrade process and I couldn't understand why "upgrade the ROM is NOT for me"
It seems simple as running the exe on the PC.
is there something I missed ?
because if you run the wrong exe file from your pc you will end up with a really expensive paper weight
And you've indicated that you're too lazt to reinstall your favorite apps unless you can simply restore from a back-up.
Hint, experiment... I know which apps will work from my storage card without need a fresh install after Rom upgrade or hard reset.
concur: changing ROMs is like crack... once you start, you're hooked
Best to get proficient with the reloading process since eventually you'll wind up being able to do it in your sleep. I actually reloaded from a cold reset while working out at the Gymn once.... (capital G in geek here...)
thank you for all of your replies.
then I will wait some more to see if a more stable wm6 rom is available.
maybe kyphur can release one which is even better than his forst one
then I will hard reset my hermes (as I will need space on it for the update)
and then run the exe from my computer.
then I will have to install all of my apps from beginning.
I hope I don't lose data
I am upgrading to a 6800 tomorrow if all goes well. I have a 6700 right now and know about flashing, but my question is why is the titans process so much more complicated? On the 6700 I could just make the rom in the kitchen and go flashing away. The 6800 needs epst, specific bootloader upgrades and then specific radio files for a rom?
Am I missing something here? Is it just because of the gps?
nothing's complicated in that
ok first STOP saying that it's so easy to brick a 6800. The ROM and Kitchen that where build at beginning by DCD or any other where making phone possibly to brick.
Now the ROM, Kitchen, etc are made by Peoples who know what they do like or friend DCD. everything is so well explain on WIKI. I think after making so many test to brick my phones that if you BRICK your phone with a DCD ROM and others its because of a really really bad computer. Or you're try to brick it. I've try to flash ROM from other phone(no success-phone working), ....
the first time i've flash a ROM i was so afraid in that because Bricking a 600$ phone is making somebody mad. but i've discovered the case on my Mogul, my Vogue or my S720 that with Telus you just have to flash the Radio and the DCD ROM and soft reset and its done everything work SO EASY.
At now the way they builds there ROM or KITCHEN are so secure that its almost impossible to brick a phone.
TELUS
HTC Mogul
ROMCD 3.3.4
RADIO: 3.42.30 better time finding gps
HTC Vogue
ROM:Manilla Crystal based on a DCD VOGUE RoM
RADIO:3.41.00
HTC LIBRA (`GHOST PHONE`)
ROM:new telus wm 6.1 stock rom with some modif on .....
RADIO:.............. at now just getting a free way to acces cell tower for internet access IS WORKING, next step getting a way to access to make and receive calls.
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I am upgrading to a 6800 tomorrow if all goes well. I have a 6700 right now and know about flashing, but my question is why is the titans process so much more complicated? On the 6700 I could just make the rom in the kitchen and go flashing away. The 6800 needs epst, specific bootloader upgrades and then specific radio files for a rom?
Am I missing something here? Is it just because of the gps?
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I would imagine the biggest difference is that the 6800 has had many major software and firmware updates over it's lifecycle, and because when you make a massive change to the firmware (i.e. going from a 1.x or 2.x radio to a 3.x radio), enough gets overwritten that it's important to backup your settings, etc. Since 1.x and 2.x didn't have full GPS implemented, yes, GPS was a main reason for having to do the extra work. They also weren't written to support 6.1, so a new radio was required for that as well.
However, once this initial flash is done, all future flashes are very easy.
The SPL is required because HTC didn't want the phone to be easily flashable.
And it checked for signed image files. Signing an image without the private key is difficult so they cracked the bootloader to not require a signed image. This was a requirement to be able to flash a custom rom/radio.
BTC
It's my understanding that you could only brick your phone by installing a non-working bootloader. All other problems can be resolved.
Although I don't understand why the latest bootloader is non-working unless you've updated your radio. I don't think it's that complicated, but there aren't any clear and complete written instructions anywhere.
If flashing were easy, everyone would do it.
And then Verizon/Sprint, etc would have hundreds of thousands (vs probably just dozens) of customers calling or going to stores needing help fixing their screw ups.
That would make giving everyone else decent service an impossibility.
I'm all for the carriers making it difficult to flash phones.
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ok first STOP saying that it's so easy to brick a 6800. The ROM and Kitchen that where build at beginning by DCD or any other where making phone possibly to brick.
He didn't say anything about bricking it. He just asked the reason for it being so difficult. No need for the hostility. We're all here to learn and help.
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guig54 said:
ok first STOP saying that it's so easy to brick a 6800. The ROM and Kitchen that where build at beginning by DCD or any other where making phone possibly to brick.
Now the ROM, Kitchen, etc are made by Peoples who know what they do like or friend DCD. everything is so well explain on WIKI. I think after making so many test to brick my phones that if you BRICK your phone with a DCD ROM and others its because of a really really bad computer. Or you're try to brick it. I've try to flash ROM from other phone(no success-phone working), ....
the first time i've flash a ROM i was so afraid in that because Bricking a 600$ phone is making somebody mad. but i've discovered the case on my Mogul, my Vogue or my S720 that with Telus you just have to flash the Radio and the DCD ROM and soft reset and its done everything work SO EASY.
At now the way they builds there ROM or KITCHEN are so secure that its almost impossible to brick a phone.
TELUS
HTC Mogul
ROMCD 3.3.4
RADIO: 3.42.30 better time finding gps
HTC Vogue
ROM:Manilla Crystal based on a DCD VOGUE RoM
RADIO:3.41.00
HTC LIBRA (`GHOST PHONE`)
ROM:new telus wm 6.1 stock rom with some modif on .....
RADIO:.............. at now just getting a free way to acces cell tower for internet access IS WORKING, next step getting a way to access to make and receive calls.
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I never said it was easy to brick. I know from reading the wiki that a lot of things are recoverable, however compared to my 6700 it is more complicated.
I simply asked because, knowing myself, I like to research and know things beforehand. It cuts down on the 'oh sh*t' moments. Thats the reason I got a 6700 2 years ago, and the reason I upgraded to a 6800.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
Caferacer said:
The 6800 needs epst, specific bootloader upgrades and then specific radio files for a rom?
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Stop right there -- just as the 6700 the potential steps involved for flashing are identical.
The differences are your sources for instruction.
It depends if you found a short-cut method that may leave people dangerously stumped in ignorance or a more comprehensive list of steps to cover nearly every contingency and prepare one with a foundation to recover to and options of what and how to flash. Myself and others have evolved the Wiki instructions to help everyone from n00bies to those recovering from flashing errors or incompatible OS/Radios ROM & SPLs. Comprehensive information shouldn't freak you out.
Keystone said:
Stop right there -- just as the 6700 the potential steps involved for flashing are identical.
The differences are your sources for instruction.
It depends if you found a short-cut method that may leave people dangerously stumped in ignorance or a more comprehensive list of steps to cover nearly every contingency and prepare one with a foundation to recover to and options of what and how to flash. Myself and others have evolved the Wiki instructions to help everyone from n00bies to those recovering from flashing errors or incompatible OS/Radios ROM & SPLs. Comprehensive information shouldn't freak you out.
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I was reading the comprehensive wiki.
I didn't freak me out, just made me curious. I will be flashing either way
Well, flashed my 6800. Used latest DCD and the 50 radio that is compatible.
Can't see satillites in google maps, and I need to call tech support tomorrow because my phone apparently can't be authenticated. Everything I can see in EPST looks fine, and over air programming didn't work.
BUT, I can still call out. So it's a software issue that can be fixed. No brickage!
Otherwise it was painless. Very snappy now, although considering I upgraded from a 6700 just about anything would be eh?
Caferacer said:
Well, flashed my 6800. Used latest DCD and the 50 radio that is compatible.
Can't see satillites in google maps, and I need to call tech support tomorrow because my phone apparently can't be authenticated. Everything I can see in EPST looks fine, and over air programming didn't work.
BUT, I can still call out. So it's a software issue that can be fixed. No brickage!
Otherwise it was painless. Very snappy now, although considering I upgraded from a 6700 just about anything would be eh?
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Use GPS Viewer to get a lock before using google maps.
Has anyone tried flashing an NBH to their phone rather than a Zimage? If the Zimage is working for you guys you should be able to flash an NBH and install to nand, that is unless you guys have a different NAND chip. Might be worth trying, it seems like the XV6800 is very very similar to the Kaiser.
any1 workin on nand flash? i have spare i could experiment with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922811
guys tried two roms including this one and it gives me "jumping to kernel (custom)..." freeze ...how to fix it up?
I have original rom installed, copied the Android folder /sdcard/Android
ran the Haret and thats the results as stated above ...
The model: HD2 (original 6.5 rom)
plz help
thanks!
Update your Radio
how do i make this radio update? my device is not rooted.
thanks!
Please search. There are a large amount of threads about that.
Hint: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808015
codiak said:
Please search. There are a large amount of threads about that.
Hint: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808015
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Any one click apps to update radio on stock roms?
You have to understand what you are doing. Otherwise you can get in trouble.
So you have to read...
Oh, and this is the wrong forum by the way!
This is the right one for you question.
there is no shorten click and run guide for radio update? no way run android/haret without update the radio?
As I said: This is the wrong Subforum for you question!
Download official stock ROM 3.14 from the HTC website, it should be available for all carriers. This will give you a good enough radio.
Sorry to post if this is inapropriate thread but just thought id chip in with my experience of this issue...There are two solutions i have come across for being stuck at the "jumping to kernel" issue
1. Reeboot phone into WM...as soon as hd2 boots, go straight to the android folder and again boot to android using the haret method (main point to note is to do this as soon as WM boots..ie; do nothing else in wm. Just go straight to file xplorer then android...This works for me every time.
2. Put hd2 into 'Airplane Mode' (in WM) the try booting to android via the haret method.
This has worked for me in the past but not sure if is 100% failsafe However method 1 always works...for me anyway
Another thing to note is you should give it enough time for the build to create when you get to the green htc logo (after jumping to kernel) if this is your first install..In fact you may want to start fresh by a new re-formatt of sd card and fresh android install. Just incase anytjing has been messed up when you were stuck @ JTK as i assume you would have pulled the battery, which may have disturbed an image being built
This is dev section, not Q&A/General.
i want to save my stock firmware and nand and build a restore for my tablet, and infact share it with the world... with a brand new stock coby kryos 4th gen tablet... and my wife has the same one, so i have 2... i searched google, and no hits came up for this specific device cause its somewhat new for the holiday season...
the pourpose here is to backup the stock tablet and provide information on how to restore... but how hard is this gonna be? and setup information provided in a specific order so data cannot be misunderstood.
first things on the list:
Provide android_usb driver, adb and VCT, fwnd info (confusion here is critical not to screw up!)
backup stock universal nand (for rescue restore)
backup stock kernel
backup stock recovery.img
backup stock boot.img
backup stock firmware
backup stock fwnd rom (for fresh stock install)
backup stock kernel drivers (for building custom kernel, chipset specific)
(ok, i learned most of that last night trying to restore my device, probly some stuff missing, but... that is a good start... if anything is missing let me know.
eventual objectives to accomplish:
super1boot root instructions
clockwork recovery boot mod (with recovery-install.sh info) instructions
market fix instructions
build custom rom
overclocking kernel/rom
and more!
i probly left a ton of stuff out.. yet again... i know some of this stuff, but need assistance... anyone able to help? im a pretty good coder and know a bit about android... but im not mister know it all,,,,
how hard does this project sound...