WHen a good stable (witch there alreay kind of is) android version is out with everything pretty much working, when would an atcual ROM be out so we can get rid of winmo completley? after a stable version is made, it is easy or hard to do that?
dvigue said:
WHen a good stable (witch there alreay kind of is) android version is out with everything pretty much working, when would an atcual ROM be out so we can get rid of winmo completley? after a stable version is made, it is easy or hard to do that?
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why on earth would you wanna do that...?. if you hate winmo so much why not just sell up and buy an android phone....problem solved !!!
donwhann said:
why on earth would you wanna do that...?. if you hate winmo so much why not just sell up and buy an android phone....problem solved !!!
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Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
dvigue said:
Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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From what I know both OS's are not running, hence having to shut down android and reboot winmo. But Im probably wrong.
Though I too would like to know an answer to your question about a rom!
At the risk of sounding borishly redundant... search is your friend, and of course it's all speculative.
dvigue said:
Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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fair enough, but when i read "so we can get rid of winmo completley" it kind of makes me think your not at all happy with the os. android on hd2 is never going to be the same as having a dedicated android phone, so why not just sell up and buy a phone with the os you want the most...?
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fair enough, but when i read "so we can get rid of winmo completley" it kind of makes me think your not at all happy with the os. android on hd2 is never going to be the same as having a dedicated android phone, so why not just sell up and buy a phone with the os you want the most...?
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good piont...i was just under the impression that it will run good on android...
what would not run good on it as if it were an android phone itself?
NO NO NO NO NO NO
do we have to have this **** every freaking day
Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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Informative post, thanks.
zarathustrax said:
Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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VERY VERY informative. wow, great info. i did not know that Haret **** down Winmo Kernal. i thought they were both running at same time...
so what your saying, we can run a day to day android system off our SD card for good if we wanted?? would getting a class higher then muy class 2 sd card help alot?
Thanks so much for your info...
dvigue said:
VERY VERY informative. wow, great info. i did not know that Haret **** down Winmo Kernal. i thought they were both running at same time...
so what your saying, we can run a day to day android system off our SD card for good if we wanted?? would getting a class higher then muy class 2 sd card help alot?
Thanks so much for your info...
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Yeah, it will run just as well off our sd card as the nand once they get it stable and working well... that's whats great about these ports. That's why I never understood why people are so gung-ho about getting a rom flash with android... that takes away the beauty of having the android port on a winmo device... you get to pick which os you want to use... you can have apps for both. I love android, but I love winmo, also. Android can't play playstation games, which is my main method of entertainment on my phone... but there are many other games for android... AND WE CAN HAVE BOTH!!!
And yes, I think a faster memory card will speed things up during some processes, but I don't know how noticeable a difference it makes. Probably not that big of a difference, but maybe for certain actions or apps it might if lots of data trasferring is happening.
zarathustrax said:
Yeah, it will run just as well off our sd card as the nand once they get it stable and working well... that's whats great about these ports. That's why I never understood why people are so gung-ho about getting a rom flash with android... that takes away the beauty of having the android port on a winmo device... you get to pick which os you want to use... you can have apps for both. I love android, but I love winmo, also. Android can't play playstation games, which is my main method of entertainment on my phone... but there are many other games for android... AND WE CAN HAVE BOTH!!!
And yes, I think a faster memory card will speed things up during some processes, but I don't know how noticeable a difference it makes. Probably not that big of a difference, but maybe for certain actions or apps it might if lots of data trasferring is happening.
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What about the increased battery consumption because Android is running off SD card? I for one love having the option of having a dual boot device, but from everything I have read so far, it is not possible to have both Winmo and an Android port installed on the internal memory of the phone. It's either one or the other, is that correct?
nzxtneo said:
What about the increased battery consumption because Android is running off SD card? I for one love having the option of having a dual boot device, but from everything I have read so far, it is not possible to have both Winmo and an Android port installed on the internal memory of the phone. It's either one or the other, is that correct?
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good point...this phone will only last about 3-4 hours with it running of SD
so this will NEVER be able to be flashed?
dvigue said:
this phone will only last about 3-4 hours with it running of SD
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Where did you get that estimate from?
Kalavere said:
Where did you get that estimate from?
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probably from the results of the releases just days ago.
Battery life on the Android ports for the HD2 have come along way in mere days (Along with a bunch of additional improvements). Maybe he is just a little behind on the times.
nzxtneo said:
probably from the results of the releases just days ago.
Battery life on the Android ports for the HD2 have come along way in mere days (Along with a bunch of additional improvements). Maybe he is just a little behind on the times.
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im using the july 22ns zimage with the v5 desire...if i m using the phone, i get maybe 4 hours...sitting there,i get at least 10-15% drop per hour..sitting there..
what do you get? what do you use?
Battery life should improve some with more development, but even the ports that are flashable to nand suffer from poor battery life... we will probably never get nearly as good battery life from an android port as we will with winmo. The port that flashes on the kaiser eats the battery 2-3 times faster during heavy use and eats the battery 7 or 8 times faster during standby. Charging can be very unstable, also... it'll randomly stop.
Once there is a flashable port for the HD2, assuming there will be one eventually, it will probably have less functional hardware at first (may be missing wifi, 3g, bluetooth, camera, or gps for example) because we won't have winmo to initialize the hardware... it will take more development to make a nand port as functional as the "haret" port.
I'm not saying that a good flashable port won't neccessarily happen, but by going on the history of these ports, I wouldn't expect it too soon. But these developers have already surprised me with how functional they have gotten this port so quickly, so they may prove me wrong. I still wouldn't flash over WinMo, though... I like having a phone that can run 2 or more operating systems. I have my 2 favorite mobile os's on one phone!
dvigue said:
im using the july 22ns zimage with the v5 desire...if i m using the phone, i get maybe 4 hours...sitting there,i get at least 10-15% drop per hour..sitting there..
what do you get? what do you use?
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Wow, 4 hours on the newer builds is just awful...
You might wanna try a reformat of your SD card and just start all over. If that doesn't work, maybe look into the type of SD card you are using.
I have tried just about all the releases, but currently I am on:
Desire v5
Zimage 23th Cotulla
HSPL 3
radio 2.12.50.2.2
Miri v17.6 rom
Well, Im a bit new to this, but how many android ports have been developed this quickly? How many have been made with the benefit of an open source kernel and hardware that is very similar to device running android?
Seems the me that the HD2 is a bit of a special case...
So I have had my HD2 for about 2 months and have been reluctant to add Android because I believe this WinMo 6.5 can work well. CHT has been an awesome addition but after a couple of weeks I experienced freezing and ultimately the phone hard reset itself. I turned it off and when it turned back on, it was at the startup screen and all my info was gone. So I replaced all my contacts and began slowly adding my apps back on. I have been using the newest Opera 10 for my browser and noticed that when the phone freezes every couple of weeks and I have to reset it (3 times now) it is right after trying to open the browser, it gives me a long error about the operamvi4 or something to that effect. So I removed the browser and am wondering a few things
Has anyone else had this problem?
What does it mean that the browser is not working with my otherwise stock phone?
What browser should I use, tried Skyfire and it would not connect to its server, so i uninstalled it.
Ive been using Iexplorer, but am not at all thrilled with its ease of use or it download screen.
I would think that after hard resetting this phone that problems would not happen, but even running stock, I still have issues.
BTW, I want CHT back on my phone but am reluctant now because after a week to 2 weeks, the phone freezes and I have to HR.
Please help, I know this is a long ramble, but I just want to know if I can do anything before talking to TMobile for a hour and half before they send me a new one.
Thanks
Ken
A lot of people have had issues with the stock roms on the hd2. I would recommend going with a custom rom.
Also, when you use android on the hd2, you won't be losing winmo... android runs off of the SD card, so you can have both on your phone. Use winmo for most of the time, then play around in android when you want to play games or use android apps. That's what I do.
But for now, I recommend reading up on how to install hspl and flash your phone... your phone will be much more stable and usable with a good custom rom. Energy roms are a good rom to flash for your first time... and there are versions with cht2.0 cooked in already.
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ive always found opera 9.7 that comes as stock to be the best browser.
+1 on the energy roms too....
I'd say my HD2 froze at least 3-4 times per day with the stock ROM, I was so pissed & thought I'd wasted $200 on the upgrade. But then I thought, what the heck it's no good to me this way so before I sell it on ebay I'll mess with a custom ROM to see if that helps. Well help it did and I kept it around a little longer but still needed to reboot a couple of times a day just to speed things up. Then android came along and I only see winmo when I update builds, to me it's so much better than winmo I wonder whats the point of 7, really who cares? Android is easy to work with once you get to the point of being able to flash a custom rom, try it.
HI!
As the title says, I wondered if it is is possible to flash an android build onto my hd2, instead of windows mobile 6.5?
right now, I am booting up in wm, and then opening android, running it from the sd-card, but since I never use wm, I thougt I might just get rid of it
is it possible? android does not run as smooth as I want it to from the sd-card, unfortunately.
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kristian
soon very soon a little bit more
week or 10 days the magic loader gonna be released and we will all get it
Proz00 said:
soon very soon a little bit more
week or 10 days the magic loader gonna be released and we will all get it
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Has anyone here tested the Android boot from nand? How is the battery life? When i boot android from WM it's less than a day of life, and that's with everything turned off. Didn't know if booting direct to android saved battery life.
a better rookie question is: how do i search?
KBBajer said:
HI!
As the title says, I wondered if it is is possible to flash an android build onto my hd2, instead of windows mobile 6.5?
right now, I am booting up in wm, and then opening android, running it from the sd-card, but since I never use wm, I thougt I might just get rid of it
is it possible? android does not run as smooth as I want it to from the sd-card, unfortunately.
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kristian
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There are devs actively working on it and it will be released in the next week or so. It will require installing a new bootloader called MAGLDR. I wouldnt recommend asking about it here in the forums as it's still a touchy subject. Search & Read (search for magldr) there's a LOT of info about it here on the forums. Happy modding!
thanks everybody
Be careful discussing MAGLDR though my friend. It's guaranteed to turn XDA members into epic idiots.
I have an HD2 right now with the Energy rom and the Noglompers theme installed but lately it has been getting slow, I click on texts it takes a while, I push back to get back to home it takes a while, when a pic gets sent to my phone it freezes when I open it , just seems like the rom has gotten old.
I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to spruce it up without going to a new rom, because I am waiting till "Jellybean," Has become at least a bit more stable and then will change to that but for now will be staying on winmo 6.5.
Thanks guys for your feedback love the phone and use it more than my HD7S I have in a drawer.