Hi,
http://www.4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html
I'm looking for the latest stock ROM for my UK HD2. I was going to flash the 2.13 from the stickies but wanted to check first to see if it would brick it.
Many thanks.
it'll work fine, no problem, though since its a t mobile rom it will be branded as such, and include t mo specific apps, and the connectionsetup won't have your providers network settings, so you will need to either setup manually or (far easier) hunt around for the connectionsetup.cab from the regular leo, install and run that.
in my opinion, and since you will need to hspl anyway, i'd go for a 2.13 based cooked rom. all the benefits of 2.13 without the (lots of) tmous bloatware, none of the connectionsetup worries, and none of thestock rom bugs.
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I've spent the last few days reading wikis, guides and threads about upgrading my Tytn, but I still have a few questions:
This guide describes a method for preventing hard-SPL from being overwritten with another bootloader. If I understand it correctly, this is only a problem with original shipped ROMs, and not with the ROMs cooked by the people here. Is this correct? Can I upgrade with any of the custom ROMs here without worrying about overwriting the bootloader?
Are the radio ROMs country or region specific or can I use any radio ROM from all over the planet?
Can I run into any problems if I try to downgrade the radio ROM? If I remember correctly, there was a a lot of trouble with this in the old days when I played around with the ROMs on my Wallaby (and I still had the future ahead of me).
Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten, as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
Dont worry.... upgrade to HardSPL v2.10 and then you can flash any ROM you like. Some carrier RUUs wont recognise the newer SPL so might not be happy with it. Depends on what ROM you wish to use.
Radio ROMs are pretty much universal however the best ones generally acknowledged are 1.47 or 1.48 (any variant)....as newer ones are unstable and seem to use the battery alot more.
Thanks for a quick and informative reply, mrvanx. And for the brilliant guides!
However, your answer left me with a couple of other questions.
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Olipro wrote HardSPL so that it wouldnt allow itself to be overwritten
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If Hard-SPL cannot be overwritten, is there ever a need for the method I linked to in my previous post? Also - I thought one of the benefits with Hard-SPL was that it can be removed (and the original BL brought back to life) by flashing an official ROM.
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as far as i know you can overwrite HardSPL by using SSPL (the software bootloader which runs in RAM and not from the devices flash memory area as a normal bootloader does).
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If I understand you correctly, you're saying that if I really want to overwrite Hard-SPL, I can do so using the SSPL, but upgrading with custom ROMs having SSPL bundled with them won't mess up Hard-SPL?
Sorry if these are stupid questions, but I'm a bit afraid of bricking the Tytn I'm currently borrowing from a friend
Update to HardSPL....safe in the knowledge that you CAN revert it back to stock if you wish, the details arent necessary dude. Go for it....its the best thing to do even if you dont change the ROM since the latest radios take advantage of the faster radio flashing technique in later SPLs.
You DRAMATICALLY reduce the risk of bricking the device by flashing HardSPL first.
Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
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Were you planning on using any particular flavour of ROM?
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Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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I have a thing for details, but I'll take your word and flash the Hard-SPL
Currently I have WM5, so any WM6 would probably be an improvement. I'm hoping to be able to play around a bit with different ROMs as soon as I feel pretty safe about bricking. Some of the light ROMs look very attractive, especially these ones: K's Rom v1.30a Lite, Schap's WM6 Pro 4.30 ROM and Shamanix`s Grass v2.2.
I would also like to try the full version of both Schap's and kin0kin's. Especially the last one because of the auto installation feature.
But I haven't looked closely at all the different ROMs yet, so there might be others that suits my needs better. My only prerequisite is .NET Compact Framework 3.5. If you have a favourite, let me know
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Pandora Naked 6, by far the fastest and is also very stable.
You can cook your own ROM....follow the instructions in the pandora kitchen thread...its REALLY easy.
I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
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Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
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Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!
Probably a stupid question, but since HTC show no inclination to release the latest ROMs like 2.13 for European phones, does the TMOUS 2.13 ROM work perfectly on European HD2s? Is it the best stock ROM option or are we safer sticking to the WWE 1.66 ROM?
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tmous roms work fine on regular leo. 2.13 isn't the latest, there's a 2.14 somewhere, and even a 3.something, i think, though i'm not sure whether that can be flashed as is or whether It's only for use in cooked roms, so be sure and read around.,
On my T8585 it doesn't work. I had tried many ROMs(TMOUS based and TMOUS stock) and with every single one phone is stuck(completely frozen - only battery removing or soft reset helps) on Launching HTC Sense. All that with 2.08 or 1.66 HSPL and 2.xx.50 radios. If I flash 2.xx.51 radio, phone is able to boot and start Sense but after receiving or making a call the phone is frozen again. But, with 2.xx.51 I can disable HTC Sense. Then I flash back .50 radio. Phone can then work with that radio without Sense but is very unstable and can be frozen at any time. Tried the same scenario with and withouth SD card - no difference.
Tried also latest test ROMs, 3.01 and 3.02 WWE, and 3.04 all watermarked. With any HSPL(1.66,1.43 or 2.08) in hardware information is stated 576MB of RAM, but on SD Card&Phone Storage Settings there is only about 200MB Total program(it should be 448MB). After flashing full test ROM(with new SPL 3.02 - flashed with gold card) memory settings are usual for any standard LEO regardless or flashed radio.
you, my friend, have a fault.
every day dozens(hundreds?) of people flash tmous based roms to regular hd2s with no issues. id start with a flash back to stock, maybe task29 too, if i were you.
i've had a regular leo since january and in all that time it has spent a total of maybe 5 days NOT running a tmous based rom with a tmous radio.
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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ahh well in that case it sounds like you may have a pre production model, and sorry but i dont want to advise you any more, since i have no knowledge of them, except that they dont seem to have the same ammount of RAM as the regular leo.
There is a user called xmoo who is very interested and knowledgable about test models, maybe he can tell you more (and indeed help you tell whether it IS a pre prod or not)
Ja sam imao slične probleme kada sam koristio "stari" HSPL2, pa sam stavio HSPL3 i sve radi savršeno. Moj HD2 je kupljen u HR VIPu isto je došao otključan.
Koristim KWBR 3.12 i Radio: 2.12.50.02_2. Ako si isprobao sve, onda nema druge nego prodaš svoj uređaj i nabaviš drugi... Može bit da je VIP poslao na srbsko tržište neke "čudne" verzije uređaja.
Hello,
Could somebody clarify my mind about differences between rom for European or T-Mobile HD2.
I will receive my HD2 T-Mobile within few days. How can I be sure not to brick it from start ?
I red somewhere that I have to use HSPL3 before flashing any ROM.
If I start with that does my phone protected from bad ROM, can I try every ROM I see or is there something minimum release or something else to take care before selecting ROM ?
If you think I'm out of context, please let me know or reply me using MP.
Ocelot
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
cooked roms will always say in the first few posts whether they are tmous compatible. i've not seen any cooked rom that includes a radio, but so long as you read the first posts, all the info will bethere. if in doubt, simply don't flash it, there are plenty to choose from.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
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It doesn't matter if your phone is a T-Mobile one or not. What does matter is if your phone is a USA T-Mobile. The specification: European model hass a 512MB ROM and 448MB RAM, the USA version has a 1GB ROM and 576MB RAM. Go to the 'Settings' tab, select 'About phone', select 'Hardware information'. There you will see the RAM and ROM information.
If you are flashing an HTC or mobile operators ROM then HSPL is not required. If you want to flash a custom ROM, then HSPL is required. No doubt, in the future you will at least want to try out a custom ROM, therefore it does little harm to flash HSPL to give you more flexability.
I want to get back to the radio that came with the 1.66 stock ROM installation (2.06.51.07), but keep the current new 3.14 ROM. Is it possible?
If so, what exactly do I have to do? From what I've read, I must install the HSPL2, and flash the radio using Custom RUU. Is that correct? I really want to make sure before attempting that. Besides, what are the possible consequences of installing HSPL2? Will I still be able to flash future stock ROM upgrades after uninstalling it?
My HD2 is the UK Europe version, not branded, and has only used stock ROMs so far (nothing cooked).
Any help would be highly appreciated!
Fore the moment there isn't a compatible HSPL version who is compatible fore SPL 3.03
So you need to wait
Thanks for replying. Then, I think I will roll back to 1.66 for the meantime. Radio performance is very important for obvious reasons, and for me the radio that comes with ROM 3.14 is deficient compared to the previous stock version.
hey mates
i've got two questions:
i know some things about hspl and so on
i know that you can revert everything back to stock by flashing a stock rom via sd card.
but now i'm wondering if you need to flash any of your stock roms (so for example 1.48, 1.66, 1.72, etc. if you have a htc phone) or do you need YOUR rom (which was originally installed on your phone, for example your phone was delivered with 1.48, so you need 1.48 to revert everything back to stock).
i'm wondering because mine is originally t-mobile branded. it came with 1.48 tmo ger to me..but this rom isnt out there, theres just the 1.72 t-mobile one.
so am i able to revert everything back to stock by flashing 1.72 t-mobile rom via sd card or do i need 1.48 (which isnt really out there)?
my second question is about radio:
i know that you need a .50 radio for enabling full ram and for running android.
i'm currently running the 1.48 stock rom (htc, not t-mobile). if i would like to have a .50 radio, do i need a new (maybe costum) rom, or will this radio work with the 1.48 rom?
thanks for help.
DN41
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i'm wondering because mine is originally t-mobile branded. it came with 1.48 tmo ger to me..but this rom isnt out there, theres just the 1.72 t-mobile one.
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the 1,72 will be fine. so long as it is branded for your phone, it is fine.
my second question is about radio:
i know that you need a .50 radio for enabling full ram and for running android.
i'm currently running the 1.48 stock rom (htc, not t-mobile). if i would like to have a .50 radio, do i need a new (maybe costum) rom, or will this radio work with the 1.48 rom?
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must be a custom rom (or a tmous rom). Only roms that use a tmous base (nk.exe) in partnership with a ..50.. radio will unlock the ram.
thanks samsamuel
one maybe silly question: what if i would install a .50 radio with that rom? what the radio part of the phone be unusable? or would nothing change?
DN41
it comes with a 50 radio.
There is a thread HERE where someone says the tmous 2.15.50 and the wwe 2.15.50 radio are slightly different. Just gotta wait and see what people report.
If i had the time and inclination i would flash teh tmous 3.14 rom and radio, just to see whether it unlocks the 576.