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hi
i want to know which is the lastest wm 6.5 rom ????
and also how to upgrade to 3.5 spl or whatever its called
and whats the benefit from 1.2 to 3.5 spl ?
thanks
Hello,
Before you get into flashing a WM6.5 rom you MUST read about it in the WiKi first about SPL's and why they differ. You ca screw up your device if you dont!
Regards
Jay
hi
thanks.. already upgraded to spl 3.5 oli ans radio 1.58 but still dont unerstand whats the difference b/w 1.2 and 3.5
zohaer21 said:
hi
thanks.. already upgraded to spl 3.5 oli ans radio 1.58 but still dont unerstand whats the difference b/w 1.2 and 3.5
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SPL 3.5 partitioned about 20mb more memory to use for the Rom. So in other words AP 4.0 was to large to fit in the SPL 1.2 partition when it was finished, so Olinex developed SPL 3.5, and this robbed 20mb from the Program side (I think), to make room for it to fit. You can downgrade again to SPL 1.2 easy enough, but you must use the right rom with the right SPL. As a result you will find that some same roms (for example, Michy 4.1) comes in both SPL's the SPL 3.5 will have a few more bits of software in it or added UI.
Hope this helps
Jay
Probably a stupid question, but since HTC show no inclination to release the latest ROMs like 2.13 for European phones, does the TMOUS 2.13 ROM work perfectly on European HD2s? Is it the best stock ROM option or are we safer sticking to the WWE 1.66 ROM?
Cheers
tmous roms work fine on regular leo. 2.13 isn't the latest, there's a 2.14 somewhere, and even a 3.something, i think, though i'm not sure whether that can be flashed as is or whether It's only for use in cooked roms, so be sure and read around.,
On my T8585 it doesn't work. I had tried many ROMs(TMOUS based and TMOUS stock) and with every single one phone is stuck(completely frozen - only battery removing or soft reset helps) on Launching HTC Sense. All that with 2.08 or 1.66 HSPL and 2.xx.50 radios. If I flash 2.xx.51 radio, phone is able to boot and start Sense but after receiving or making a call the phone is frozen again. But, with 2.xx.51 I can disable HTC Sense. Then I flash back .50 radio. Phone can then work with that radio without Sense but is very unstable and can be frozen at any time. Tried the same scenario with and withouth SD card - no difference.
Tried also latest test ROMs, 3.01 and 3.02 WWE, and 3.04 all watermarked. With any HSPL(1.66,1.43 or 2.08) in hardware information is stated 576MB of RAM, but on SD Card&Phone Storage Settings there is only about 200MB Total program(it should be 448MB). After flashing full test ROM(with new SPL 3.02 - flashed with gold card) memory settings are usual for any standard LEO regardless or flashed radio.
you, my friend, have a fault.
every day dozens(hundreds?) of people flash tmous based roms to regular hd2s with no issues. id start with a flash back to stock, maybe task29 too, if i were you.
i've had a regular leo since january and in all that time it has spent a total of maybe 5 days NOT running a tmous based rom with a tmous radio.
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
miksi said:
Hello Samsamuel
Tried that also but it doesn't help at all.
Stock ROMs works without a hitch but 576mb enabled ones is a bitter kind of fruit for my Leo. Also Android works but I have to add mem=352M in the set cmdline for full RAM kernel. I think something is wrong with my phones RAM memory. I've bout the phone on 4th of dec last year with 2years contract from VIP in Serbia. It was factory unlocked from the start. I don't have any information how other phones from VIP behave regarding RAM.
At the moment I am using Artemis 27 ROM with 1.66 HSPL and 2.12.50 radio and it's working fine - no major drawbacks.
What's the numbers on boot loader screen for ptouch and pled on your phone( on mine is 0x05 and 0x20)?
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ahh well in that case it sounds like you may have a pre production model, and sorry but i dont want to advise you any more, since i have no knowledge of them, except that they dont seem to have the same ammount of RAM as the regular leo.
There is a user called xmoo who is very interested and knowledgable about test models, maybe he can tell you more (and indeed help you tell whether it IS a pre prod or not)
Ja sam imao slične probleme kada sam koristio "stari" HSPL2, pa sam stavio HSPL3 i sve radi savršeno. Moj HD2 je kupljen u HR VIPu isto je došao otključan.
Koristim KWBR 3.12 i Radio: 2.12.50.02_2. Ako si isprobao sve, onda nema druge nego prodaš svoj uređaj i nabaviš drugi... Može bit da je VIP poslao na srbsko tržište neke "čudne" verzije uređaja.
Hello,
Could somebody clarify my mind about differences between rom for European or T-Mobile HD2.
I will receive my HD2 T-Mobile within few days. How can I be sure not to brick it from start ?
I red somewhere that I have to use HSPL3 before flashing any ROM.
If I start with that does my phone protected from bad ROM, can I try every ROM I see or is there something minimum release or something else to take care before selecting ROM ?
If you think I'm out of context, please let me know or reply me using MP.
Ocelot
non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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non tmous based cooked roms in themselves won't brick your device, but they won't work either, however non tmous stock roms contain radios that WILL permanently brick your device.you are currently posting in the regular hd2 section, go back to the site root and find the tmous specific hd2 section, and only get your roms from there.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
cooked roms will always say in the first few posts whether they are tmous compatible. i've not seen any cooked rom that includes a radio, but so long as you read the first posts, all the info will bethere. if in doubt, simply don't flash it, there are plenty to choose from.
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Thank you for answer.
I know there is a specific section for T-Mobile HD2, but as you have probably seen, I'm Belgian and I'm looking for French ROM. Nobody report French version in the appropriate section because TMOUS is not sold in Europe.
May I ask you how I can know if a ROM includes radios or not ? Is there specific [] to tell me Yes or Not ?
Thanks.
P.S. This is my last message in that item so left place for Standard EU HD2 owner.
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It doesn't matter if your phone is a T-Mobile one or not. What does matter is if your phone is a USA T-Mobile. The specification: European model hass a 512MB ROM and 448MB RAM, the USA version has a 1GB ROM and 576MB RAM. Go to the 'Settings' tab, select 'About phone', select 'Hardware information'. There you will see the RAM and ROM information.
If you are flashing an HTC or mobile operators ROM then HSPL is not required. If you want to flash a custom ROM, then HSPL is required. No doubt, in the future you will at least want to try out a custom ROM, therefore it does little harm to flash HSPL to give you more flexability.
Hello guys,
I am from Singapore and this is the first time I post something, I hope someone can help me.
Recently my HD2 was faulty and I sent it to HTC, they replaced the motherboard and everything was OK, (so I tot), until I realized that, my phone is always on high program memory usage, with no program running. (see the pictures below)
I need help, please.
your total program memory is about 128 meg too low, it should be about 336 total with usually around 200 or so used, and 120 free. Do you have a pre production test model?
When you enter bootloader, what does your spl say? x.xx.xxxx
Hi Sam,
Thank you for the quick reply.
This HD2 is not a pre production model, I got it from a local telco.
So how do I increase the Total Mermory???
SPL-3.03.0000 XE
hmm so the spl is correct for the 3.14 rom, so it isn't that.
You can't increase the total memory, it is 336 meg (448 total minus 128 graphics) for a regular hd2, and thats it. There is no adjusting it.
Not really sure what to suggest, though I think my first step would be calling your telco(or htc, whoever you sent it to) and kicking up a fuss and getting a replacement.
I called up HTC, they told me it could be hardware fault, gotta send in for repair
ah, bit of a pain losing it again for a week, but better to let them replace it than you make it worse fiddling.
i gto my hd2 a week ago. it already had some ugly energy gtx costum rom on it. i flashed it with stock 3.14 rom that i downloadet directly from htc webpage. after this the phone had only around 60MB of RAM free. so i flashed the phone with rom on this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634 now i have around 300MB of RAM free when i start the phone. if i close all the apps, and disable htc sence its up to 330MB of ram free. on the official ROM 3.14 i also had only around 100MB of free internal storage. with this costom ROM its almost 200MB. and it still its stable has a greater htc sence then official rom. it has alot of apps alike rdc, mp3 trimmer... all you realy need.
So if you are not against flashing you can make your hd2 a great fast stable phone with lots or free ram and more internal storage then it was supposet to have out of the factory. oh and HD2 officialy has 448MB of RAM. But it also has 128MB hiden or locked or something... witht his ROM you have that 128MB unlocked so you have 576MB of ram.
gbajzelj said:
i gto my hd2 a week ago. it already had some ugly energy gtx costum rom on it. i flashed it with stock 3.14 rom that i downloadet directly from htc webpage. after this the phone had only around 60MB of RAM free. so i flashed the phone with rom on this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634 now i have around 300MB of RAM free when i start the phone. if i close all the apps, and disable htc sence its up to 330MB of ram free. on the official ROM 3.14 i also had only around 100MB of free internal storage. with this costom ROM its almost 200MB. and it still its stable has a greater htc sence then official rom. it has alot of apps alike rdc, mp3 trimmer... all you realy need.
So if you are not against flashing you can make your hd2 a great fast stable phone with lots or free ram and more internal storage then it was supposet to have out of the factory. oh and HD2 officialy has 448MB of RAM. But it also has 128MB hiden or locked or something... witht his ROM you have that 128MB unlocked so you have 576MB of ram.
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different problem. yours is because you had hspl with a 3.14 rom.
Ram error
samsamuel said:
different problem. yours is because you had hspl with a 3.14 rom.
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Hi. I have Hspl 2 and 3.14 rom installed too, and the same problem with memory: The system shows a total program memory of 208.8 mb and a huge memory usage with no running programs. In the hardware info the ram appears correct: 512 mb. Is this a bug of 3.14 rom? and if so is there a solution?
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Hi O2. I have Hspl 2 and 3.14 rom installed too, and the same problem with memory: The system shows a total program memory of 208.8 mb and a huge memory usage with no running programs. In the hardware info the ram appears correct: 512 mb. Is this a bug of 3.14 rom? and if so is there a solution?
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its well discussed in loads of threads. any spl/hspl except 3.03.0000 will cause this with 3.14 roms. simple as that, no workaround. only way to get 3.14 on a branded phone (until o2 give us a 3.14 rom,,,,, next summer,,,) is goldcard.
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its well discussed in loads of threads. any spl/hspl except 3.03.0000 will cause this with 3.14 roms. simple as that, no workaround. only way to get 3.14 on a branded phone (until o2 give us a 3.14 rom,,,,, next summer,,,) is goldcard.
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Ok, thks. Just a question: is it possible to install hspl 3 without flashing the rom again?
oxk4r said:
Ok, thks. Just a question: is it possible to install hspl 3 without flashing the rom again?
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Not in combinations with stock ROM 3.14
oxk4r said:
Ok, thks. Just a question: is it possible to install hspl 3 without flashing the rom again?
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don't confuse hspl3 with spl 3.03.0000
no, you can't fix the spl without flashing.
Sorry, but I'm noob, and I'm getting a little confused...
So, the solution for run 3.14 rom in a branded phone without bugs as the memory one, is first update hspl to v3.03.0000, and then flash the 3.14 rom, isn't it?
its use a goldcard. that's it.
both those steps you mention are part of the same process, not separate.
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both those steps you mention are part of the same process, not separate.
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Does it mean that when you install a 3.14 rom, hspl is automatically updated to v 3.03?
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Does it mean that when you install a 3.14 rom, hspl is automatically updated to v 3.03?
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Yes sir spl will be updated.
And where should appear that hspl version number? If I soft-reset pushing volume down, I find this info:
PB81100 HX-BC
SPL-1.66.HSPL XE
0x05
CotullaHSPL 0x38
but I can't see HSPL version 3.03 anywhere.
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And where should appear that hspl version number? If I soft-reset pushing volume down, I find this info:
PB81100 HX-BC
SPL-1.66.HSPL XE
0x05
CotullaHSPL 0x38
but I can't see HSPL version 3.03 anywhere.
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Sir like mentioned before you need to remove HSPL before installing stock ROM 3.14!
HSPL and stock ROM 3.14 (spl 3.03) isn't compatible.
Your solution is to flash a ROM from the HTC website, and since you have an O2 branded phone, then you need to download the 1.72 O2 ROM. Now your SPL will be 1.66.0000. You will need to do a bit of reading on how to do GoldCarding, then you can flash the 3.14 ROM.
I'm using 15 Mar Energy Rom Cookie 2.0.
My problem is: RAM SIZE = 448mb and NOT 576mb...
I'm using RADIO 2.15.50.14 of Ship rom.
Somebody know how i get full memory (576) on Energy Rom?
Don't mistake total useable ram with total hardware ram.
576 total minus 128 for the graphics chip leaves 448 for winmo to use.
If you were on standard rom it would be 448 minus 128 leaving 336 for winmo.
You must already have a correct radio else the rom wouldn't boot.
When i flash ORIGINAL ROM, PHONE INFORMATION show 576...
When flash Energy, show 448...
why?
Filipeknot said:
When i flash ORIGINAL ROM,
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3.14 rom with 2.08.hspl by any chance? 576 total ram, 200 useable, plus unstable phone?
When i've flashed original ROM, i had the 1.66 HSPL!
To flash energy i'm using HSLP4.
Screenshots please, and which stock rom?(full filename please) and you can't say " I used 1.66 hspl for this and hspl4 for that", it makes no sense, hspl4 includes 1.66hspl, so it tells us nothing, a bit like saying "I go to work in a Honda, but i come home in a car",, both mean the same thing.
I've no screenshots...
Rom name: RUU_Leo_S_HTC_PTG_3.14.410.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
Link: http://94.136.51.200/download/RomCo..._Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe
With this rom, phone information show 576mb! By default, my HSLP = 1.66. To flash energy, i've flashed HSPL4.
My phone is a WWE and i've instaled this PT rom. If you don't believe, try yourself!
Sorry for English and thx for help!
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I'm using 15 Mar Energy Rom Cookie 2.0.
My problem is: RAM SIZE = 448mb and NOT 576mb...
I'm using RADIO 2.15.50.14 of Ship rom.
Somebody know how i get full memory (576) on Energy Rom?
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You need to have 2.08HSPL for 576 RAM.My guess is that you have 3.03HSPL.I also use Energy ROM and I have 576 RAM.
You say " default is 1.66 hspl, but you cannot run 3.14 roms on 1.66, you get memory errors, and the rom update code error was you flashing the wrong rom from SD car.
Giraff -> I will try it!
Samsamuel -> I'm having memory problems, and i didn't know why this...
Now i know! =] kkk
With 3.14 and HSPL 1.66 sometimes when i open cam, memory error.
Thx for help Giraff and Samsamuel
I will come back later to give feedback.
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I've flashed 2.08 and it's OK!
See attachment! 576 of ram!
Thx Giraff and samsamuel
Friends,
i am about to buy a TMOUS HD2 / LEO 1024 (unlocked) for use in Asia.
I have intermediate level knowledge about rom flashing as I do it quite often with my present htc blackstone.
My questions about TMOUS HD2 are :
1) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom WM6.5 ROM available here ?
Are the WM6.5 ROm's linked to a particular version of HSPL available at the time of their release ? I think HSPL / HSPL2 do not support TMOUS HD2
2) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom RADIO ROM available here ?
Since I intend to use this outside of US, i am ok if the UMTS1700 band doesnt work. UMTS2100 will serve my purpose
Thanks for looking, await your feedback.
tusharch said:
Friends,
i am about to buy a TMOUS HD2 / LEO 1024 (unlocked) for use in Asia.
I have intermediate level knowledge about rom flashing as I do it quite often with my present htc blackstone.
My questions about TMOUS HD2 are :
1) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom WM6.5 ROM available here ?
Are the WM6.5 ROm's linked to a particular version of HSPL available at the time of their release ? I think HSPL / HSPL2 do not support TMOUS HD2
2) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom RADIO ROM available here ?
Since I intend to use this outside of US, i am ok if the UMTS1700 band doesnt work. UMTS2100 will serve my purpose
Thanks for looking, await your feedback.
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1) No, most of them but not all. You have to read the first post of each thread whether the ROM can be used with TMoUS HD2.
The have to be installed with HSPL 3 / HSPL4
2) using the TMoUS you can only use thos Radio ROMs with xx.xx.50.xx but NOT xx.xx.51.xx. All of them can be installed with HSPL 3 and HSPL4
tusharch said:
Friends,
i am about to buy a TMOUS HD2 / LEO 1024 (unlocked) for use in Asia.
I have intermediate level knowledge about rom flashing as I do it quite often with my present htc blackstone.
My questions about TMOUS HD2 are :
1) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom WM6.5 ROM available here ?
Are the WM6.5 ROm's linked to a particular version of HSPL available at the time of their release ? I think HSPL / HSPL2 do not support TMOUS HD2
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Yes you can pretty much flash any custom Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM for the HD2 here on XDA. Just make sure it does not have a x.xx.51.xx radio with the ROM which just about all customers Rome do not have radios included with them. Also it has to be a ROM based of a TMOUS Tom or it will not work correctly. To more directly answer your question they are linked to the SOL some what. The older EU ROMs are linked to the SOL versions that came with them as the were designed to work on the EU HD2s with 448MB of RAM. The SPLs hat come with the newer TMOUS ROMs are designed to work with the 576MB of RAM of the TMOUS HD2.
2) With HSPL3 / HSPL4, can I flash any custom RADIO ROM available here ?
Since I intend to use this outside of US, i am ok if the UMTS1700 band doesnt work. UMTS2100 will serve my purpose
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No you can not flash all radios to the TMOUS HD2. You can not clash a 2.04.50. xx, 2.05.50.xx, or any x.xx.51.xx radio version as they will brick and TMOUS HD2.
Thanks for looking, await your feedback.
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You are welcome.
RAM -
T-Macgnolia said:
The SPLs hat come with the newer TMOUS ROMs are designed to work with the 576MB of RAM of the TMOUS HD2.
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Thanks for yr feedback. Well, this is slightly off topic, but till now my understanding was that all HD2's do come with 576 MB RAM.
With stock ROM, the ram shows up as 320 MB (128 reserved for graphix) & With proper version of radio rom it shud show 448 MB (128 for graphix again) summing to 576 MB. Am i missing something ?
thanks matthes n macgnolia for yr feedback.
tusharch said:
Thanks for yr feedback. Well, this is slightly off topic, but till now my understanding was that all HD2's do come with 576 MB RAM.
With stock ROM, the ram shows up as 320 MB (128 reserved for graphix) & With proper version of radio rom it shud show 448 MB (128 for graphix again) summing to 576 MB. Am i missing something ?
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No you are not missing anything. really. With the EU HD2s you have to have a TMOUS ROM and TMOUS radio to unlock the extra 128MB of RAM. The EU HD2s come factory showing only 448MB of RAM. The TMOUS HD2s come factory with the 576MB of RAM.
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No you are not missing anything. really. With the EU HD2s you have to have a TMOUS ROM and TMOUS radio to unlock the extra 128MB of RAM. The EU HD2s come factory showing only 448MB of RAM. The TMOUS HD2s come factory with the 576MB of RAM.
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so that means :
If i have a APAC / EU HD2 I can flash all custom rom's including TMOUS rom's / radio
* but *
If i have a TMOUS HD2, then i need to verify before flashing if the rom is meant for leo 1024 else i risk bricking my phone.
tusharch said:
so that means :
If i have a APAC / EU HD2 I can flash all custom rom's including TMOUS rom's / radio
* but *
If i have a TMOUS HD2, then i need to verify before flashing if the rom is meant for leo 1024 else i risk bricking my phone.
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Yes make sure any ROM you are going to flash is ok for the TMOUS. The wrong ROM will not hard brick a TMOUS it will nust not run worth a crap on a TMOUS, but the wrong radio will hard brick a TMOUS, so pretty much if you can not fimd something thar says the ROM is ok for a TMOUS do not flash it, just to be safe.