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I realize this is nothing new, but with many of the emulators being pulled from the market, and the somewhat confusing process of getting everything in place, I thought I would post a little guide here on how to get some old school console gaming on our Photons, for people who may not have realized it was possible.
I also would ask that no one flame on about YongZh. Whatever your opinion is of him, his N64 emulator is bar none the best on Android.
Now, with that out of the way, the MoPho is a seriously capable gaming machine for those of you who grew up in the 80's and 90's. Because of the support for bluetooth that Motorola has in their phones, you can interface with the phone with several devices, some of which you may already have. With it's fast processing power, and a solid GPU, it runs emulators smoothly, and with HDMI, you can connect right to your TV. I have tried similar set-ups with the Evo, and the Evo3D, and neither one compared to what I am enjoying with my MoPho.
To start, you will want download some of the best emulators. You need to create a SlideMe account to buy N64oid. You can do that here: http://slideme.org/application/n64oid
SlideMe is safe to give your credit card information. Plus once you have an account, you can download several other emulators for free, like SNES, Gamboy Advanced, etc. For PSX, it's available in the Android market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.emulator.fpse&hl=en
The best SNES app is no longer available in the market. It was Snes9xEX from Robert Broglia. You can still find it here: http://www.explusalpha.com/home/snes9x-ex/downloads
There is an initial investment here of about $10 for the newer consoles (N64 and PSX), but it's worth it if you have the cash. These developers continue to work hard on these emulators, and $5 is a steal for the experience you get.
Second, you will want to download the BluezIME that supports a Wii Controller. Found here: http://code.google.com/p/android-bluez-ime/downloads/list
There are other Wii Mote apps, but this is the only one that works natively with the N64 emulator.
This app will allow you to pair a number of controllers with your device, and it supports true analog movement with the Wii controller analog stick. For those that don't know, analog allows you to control the movement of your player based on how far you bend the stick. Digital is 100% or 0% with a trigger somewhere about half way. Analog lets you push the stick a little, and move a little, push the stick alot, and move alot faster. I hope that makes sense. N64 is really the only console from this era that used it actively. PSX had a few games that did take advantage of it.
Once you have N64oid installed, as well as BluezIME, you can go into N64oid, and connect a Wii controller directly there. Just go into menu>settings>input settings>bluetooth gamepads>controller 1.
Once you are in there, you can hit connect, and it will ask to turn on bluetooth if you haven't already done so. Once it is on, it will say connecting. At this point, hit 1 and 2 on the Wii controller to pair it. The buttons automatically map, but you can change them if you want to. The analog stick should not be mapped in this section. It's already mapped correctly. If you are using the nunchuck, it's mapped to that analog stick. If you are using the classic controller, it's mapped to the left stick.
If you have multiple remotes, you can pair them all up using the other controller slots. N64 had a lot of great 4 player first person shooters. The wonderful advantage to having the MoPho is out of the box mirroring on to your HDTV. Because mirroring uses far less resources than webtop, make sure you just do mirroring, not webtop. It will ensure your emulator runs more smoothly.
Pairing with FPSE is a little different. It doesn't support BluezIME right in the app. So you have to pair with Bluez before going into FPSE. The upside to the N64oid emulator is you don't have to change your input method. So if you pause your game to answer a text, you type with your regular keyboard. In FPSE, Bluez is now your input method and you are mapping to actual keystrokes. Which means you will have to change your system input method if you need to type something, and change back when you re-start your game.
There is another option for a controller, which is the Sixaxis controller app. I don't have that controller, and so I haven't bought or tested that app. If anyone has, feel free to post your feedback here.
The other thing these emulators have is on screen controls, or hardware contols that use the sensor to move or physical buttons to shoot, jump, etc. Again, the MoPho has an advantage here over other phones. The camera button, and the volume up button can be mapped as triggers, and they are placed nicely. Also, because the MoPho has a gyroscope instead of an accelerometer, using the sensor as an analog stick is much more accurate than it was on my OG Evo. You can also map the camera and back buttons if you so choose.
Once you have installed your emulators, you need to get games to play. I have to tread lightly here, because downloading game roms from someone else is illegal. If you already own the game, and make a back up of it, it's legal to play your own copy of your own game with these emulators. You can use Google to find roms to see an example of what your backup will look like. PSX roms are the most difficult to get a solid working copy. This is because they are very large to begin with, and need to be "un-cem'ed" usually. I can tell you there is a good youtube video if you search on how to get PSX roms for your android device. If me saying that violates something, let me know and I will take it out. For FPSE, you will need to install the PSX bios. Again, this is easily downloaded by doing a Google search. If you can't find it, PM me, and I will send it to you.
FPSE is a somewhat complex emulator with a lot of options. For more support related specifically to that system, go to their support forums at:http://www.fpsece.net/forum2/index.php?sid=0fe4c20b809864ad49553f31ba1e9d1a
For N64oid, you can view the discussion here: http://n64oid.forumotion.com
If you have made it this far, here is a list of some games that are fun to play if you re-map the controls. Most of these are games that used the gun, because it can be emulated with a screen tap.
NES
Duck Hunt - Use input method as zapper. Map volume up as select, and volume down as start to navigate initial menus.
SNES
Yoshi Safari - This was a game that used the superscope. So you have to set the superscope as your main controller. If you map the volume up as the up button, and the volume down as the down button, and use sensor as left and right, then you are actually playing it in 2 player mode. The second player controls Yoshi, while the first is Mario shooting. But if you hold your phone in portrait, you can tilt left to right to dodge enemies, and press up to jump on the platforms, and down to slow down and evade obstacles. These instructions should work with SNESoid or Snes9x EX.
Mario Paint - This only works with Snes9x EX. The developer allows you to emulate the mouse.
Mario Kart - Use sensor as left and right, and map Volume up as A, Camera as R. Leave the on screen controls for acceleration. You accelerate by pressing B on screen, steer with the phone, but hop to do power slides with Camera, and fire your weapons with volume up.
PSX
Time Crisis - Change the controller to Guncon, and map L3 to volume up, and R3 to volume down. L3 will come out of cover to shoot, then you can tap on the enemies, and R3 will pause the game.
N64
Star Fox - Use the sensor as your analog stick, map volume up to Z, and camera to R. Map Volume down to C-left (use for boost). Leave the on-screen controls except for the analog stick and L and R. Flying the ship is done mostly from the phone controls, and firing is on-screen controls.
The compatibility lists in the forums for N64oid and FPSE aren't really specific to our phones. I have found excellent compatibility with most games on this phone. FPSE runs almost everything 100%. For N64 here are all the ones I have currently running with no issues that I can see, but I am sure that more are compatible, and the developer is improving this app regularly.
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Star Fox 64
Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Banjo Kazooie
Zelda OOT
Zelda Majoras Mask
I hope that helps some of you enjoy your Photon that much more. If I missed anything or you want to add anything, just let me know.
Great guide!
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Nice! Can't wait to try this out.
Yongzh is the freaking man. Google pulled his emulators I believe because of violations etc. Emulators don't last that long in the market. Ex, apple got a mame emulator and it was pulled in 2 days. I don't need to explain why they were pulled its pretty obvious lol. Also if you go to Google and search for "slideme market" yongzh gives his emulators free with updates. All of the emus are the latest versions. I'm not 100% on the story with yongzh and Google but the dude puts out qualify work. Not to mention the photon is the best devices I've ever emulated older systems/games on. Great write up.
Update: It appears slideme marketplace is down at the moment but I'm guessing it will be back soon? Here's a dropbox link to slide me i hope it's back up soon...
http://db.tt/KtgsxLaK
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Yongzh is the freaking man. Google pulled his emulators I believe because of violations etc. Emulators don't last that long in the market. Ex, apple got a mame emulator and it was pulled in 2 days. I don't need to explain why they were pulled its pretty obvious lol. Also if you go to Google and search for "slideme market" yongzh gives his emulators free with updates. All of the emus are the latest versions. I'm not 100% on the story with yongzh and Google but the dude puts out qualify work. Not to mention the photon is the best devices I've ever emulated older systems/games on. Great write up.
Update: It appears slideme marketplace is down at the moment but I'm guessing it will be back soon? Here's a dropbox link to slide me i hope it's back up soon...
http://db.tt/KtgsxLaK
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I totally agree. My Evo was my first Android phone, and when I saw that there were SNES emulators, I was hooked. Yongzh replies to emails too, which is great. The Robert Broglia is also a really cool developer. If you want to venture into mame, and other systems like that, his emus are pretty legit.
Having in game sound stuttering issues in fpse playing resident evil nemesis
Checked the fpse forum and saw other posts with people with same issue, but that forum is a mess and didn't find any answers
Cut scene audio is intact, it's just in game audio
Anyone got re3 working flawlessly?
What settings you using for
Dual core boost
Hle mode
Mdec acceleration
Gte acceleration
Fast booting
Spu sync
Frame skip
Screen filtering
Fast draw
ksound said:
Having in game sound stuttering issues in fpse playing resident evil nemesis
Checked the fpse forum and saw other posts with people with same issue, but that forum is a mess and didn't find any answers
Cut scene audio is intact, it's just in game audio
Anyone got re3 working flawlessly?
What settings you using for
Dual core boost
Hle mode
Mdec acceleration
Gte acceleration
Fast booting
Spu sync
Frame skip
Screen filtering
Fast draw
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One of my biggest complaints about FPSE would be that the sound never seems to work correctly. I would suggest unchecking the framelimiter, and see if that makes it work. Some games ran too fast with that unchecked.
I was looking into this today. This is a great start for a guide. This is what I found. Looks like this article is about 8 months old but, should help with a few things to look for. http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Android/Top+10+Android+charts/feature.asp?c=29415
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Nice write-up. I'm running Snes9x and Gameboid on my Electrify (Photon minus 4G) and they run great, but with on-screen controls, fast-action games like Mario are just unplayable. I beat both real Castlevania games for the GBA (I don't count Circle of the Moon, they made that for people who thought the other two and SOTN were too easy) on my Electrify, and Zelda 3 is kinda playable (SNES or the Capcom reissue on GBA). A Sixaxis controller is a little too expensive. I didn't think about the Wii classic controller.
Eek. Looks like the Wii option costs more than I thought. First you have to buy a Wiimote, and the black one with MotionPlus is $2.69 cheaper than the white and blue ones, and $4.69 cheaper than the pink one (girl gamers always get shaft...eh, scr... eh, cheated), but if you want to go black on black, Newegg needs $2 more to ship the black classic controller than the white one (both $19.99 with $4.99 and $2.99 shipping, respectively, and $35.30 and free shipping for the black Wiimote). So we're looking at $60 for the Nintendo option.
Meanwhile, Newegg wants $39.99 for the PS3 controllers in blue or black. If you want white or red, the price goes up to $44.99. But if you want pink (again, girls get... eh, you get the idea), the price jumps up to $54.99. All with free shipping. (Does the pink... eh, sorry, "Candy pink"... one support breast cancer research? No? Sony's just being misogynistic?)
Hmm... looks like Sony wins this one, by about $20. (Note that none of those are referral links, I'm not getting kickbacks or anything.)
Since I originally wrote this I bought a PS3 controller, and the sixaxis app is nothing short of amazing! The touch profiles make it so you can use N64oid with full analog control. But, what's more, is you can play games like Shadowgun and map the controls to key presses, or Modern Combat 3 with mapping on screen touch profiles.
If anyone is interested in these mappings or profiles, I can upload them here.
Yes please upload the n64oid profile
Alright, so I took the plunge and have this bad boy arriving to my doorstep tomorrow. I certainly plan to spend some time playing with this all night and downloading anything and everything. I just wanted to see what people found as really helpful apps that show off their tablet, and/or really helped boost the utility of the tablet.
I don't care whether the apps are games, tools, widgets, etc.
What are you addicted to on your tablet the most?
I know with my hobbled Evo 4G I'm excited to give Draw Something and TempleRun a go without it resetting my old Sense launcher every 10 minutes. But beyond that, I haven't really looked into any tablet specific apps.
And besides Play apps, are there any built in Sony specific add-ons that really surprised you more than you expected (IR, Qriocity, etc.)?
Favorites are;
Game- Reckless Racing 2
Widget- PWS( Wunderground Personal Weather Station)
App- Torque
I mainly use my tablet for reading, so my favorite apps are:
- Amazon Kindle, absolutely love it, its better than apple's iBook in every way
- Perfect Viewer, I think its one of the best manga viewers on Android
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I mainly use my tablet for reading, so my favorite apps are:
- Amazon Kindle, absolutely love it, its better than apple's iBook in every way
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Sony Reader vs Kindle vs Nook vs Google Play Books
How do they shake out in your mind?
Didn't quite know how to best approach each one. Just read through The Hunger Games on the stock Sony Reader app. Was about to download the other apps for comparison.
PS I love reading on this baby though. Just feels good.
I haven't tried the Sony Reader app yet, I mainly use Nook and the Kindle app. I think the Kindle app is better designed and works better but it is easier to sideload epub books into the Nook app.
Nook: sideloaded epub files, free book giveaway every friday
Amazon: use it mostly to read ebooks checked out from libraries. Works great.
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Sony Reader vs Kindle vs Nook vs Google Play Books
How do they shake out in your mind?
Didn't quite know how to best approach each one. Just read through The Hunger Games on the stock Sony Reader app. Was about to download the other apps for comparison.
PS I love reading on this baby though. Just feels good.
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Sony Reader vs Kindle vs Nook vs Google Play Books
How do they shake out in your mind?
Didn't quite know how to best approach each one. Just read through The Hunger Games on the stock Sony Reader app. Was about to download the other apps for comparison.
PS I love reading on this baby though. Just feels good.
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I haven't actually tried the Sony Reader, I have most of my library on Kindle already so I just went with Kindle.
Media:
-Sony's pre-loaded Remote Control app is great. I use it in the living room all the time and hardly touch my remotes anymore.
-Plasma Sound HD (Free) is a very fun music app that makes good use of the tablet screen size
-Adobe Photoshop Touch ($10) is a great portable substitute for the real Photoshop application. $10 seems a bit steep for an app, but you'll never need any other photo editing apps.
-Gmote 2.0 (Free) is a great app that allows you to browse for files on your computer and open them on your computer or on the tablet. It also has a touchpad mouse built in. Very handy if you have a PC hooked up in a living room.
-Amazon Kindle (Free) has been the smoothest e-reading experience for me, by miles. I'll second that Perfect Viewer (Free) is great for comics and manga.
Utility:
-If rooted, AdFree Android is a great adblocker that vastly improves browsing speed on the stock browser.
-ADWLauncher EX ($3.32) is the best alternative launcher I've found so far, though the recently released GO Launcher HD could give it a run for its money if they add more customization options.
-HD Widgets ($1.99) is my personal favorite for adding a digital clock, switches and weather status to your home screen.
-If you have a Wii, Wiimote Controller (Free) is a nice little app that allows you to sync your bluetooth Wii remote to your device. It's great for using with emulators.
Games:
-ChuChu Rocket
-Dead Space
-Draw Something
-Grand Theft Auto III
-Scramble with Friends (obscenely addictive)
-Shadowgun
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Media:
-Sony's pre-loaded Remote Control app is great. I use it in the living room all the time and hardly touch my remotes anymore.
-Plasma Sound HD (Free) is a very fun music app that makes good use of the tablet screen size
-Adobe Photoshop Touch ($10) is a great portable substitute for the real Photoshop application. $10 seems a bit steep for an app, but you'll never need any other photo editing apps.
-Gmote 2.0 (Free) is a great app that allows you to browse for files on your computer and open them on your computer or on the tablet. It also has a touchpad mouse built in. Very handy if you have a PC hooked up in a living room.
-Amazon Kindle (Free) has been the smoothest e-reading experience for me, by miles. I'll second that Perfect Viewer (Free) is great for comics and manga.
Utility:
-If rooted, AdFree Android is a great adblocker that vastly improves browsing speed on the stock browser.
-ADWLauncher EX ($3.32) is the best alternative launcher I've found so far, though the recently released GO Launcher HD could give it a run for its money if they add more customization options.
-HD Widgets ($1.99) is my personal favorite for adding a digital clock, switches and weather status to your home screen.
-If you have a Wii, Wiimote Controller (Free) is a nice little app that allows you to sync your bluetooth Wii remote to your device. It's great for using with emulators.
Games:
-ChuChu Rocket
-Dead Space
-Draw Something
-Grand Theft Auto III
-Scramble with Friends (obscenely addictive)
-Shadowgun
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Thanks for you
Apps:
>Documents to go -loading up a full word document with pictures is pretty snazzy
>File Manager HD - nice file browser for tablets
>MX video player, or double twist. Both good but I go MX.
>Winamp for music
>Volume+ FREE is nifty as - compresses all outputs so that they all stay in the upper range of loudness, and as such gives the effect of turn up the volume.
>My bank has an awesome net banking app for tablets also that is very intuitive, maybe yours might too
Games:
>(whoops just saw hogaburger posted this one allready) ShadowGun - a pretty impressive gears of war clone that looks and plays great on the sony tablet s. Also supports mapping controls to a ps3 controller/gamepad
GTA3> Plays and looks great, also natively supports the ps3 controller but I'm sure you could reconfigure the controls if needed.
>ZEN Pinball THD. It's simply amazing, if you like pinball I don't think you'll find a better app on the play store.
I also recommend getting Slide me marketplace installed (3rd party market). Then you can get some amazing emulators that used to be at premium price on the android market (and were/are the finest emulators around) for free . ie snesoid, nesoid, gbcoid, etc etc. The only one he seems to be charging for is N64oid. Pity cause I bought that back inthe day and now it's gone .
And the fun really starts if you decide to go ahead and root the tablet. Then all the games from gameloft become available to you if you edit your build.prop
Stock sony apps you say? Crash bandicoot is definately the best one . The rest suck in my opinion. Some would argue that the IR remotes awesome, I just find it tedious. Or that the sony music player sounds great, but I think the tablet itself sounds bad anyway so whats the difference really. Plus you gotta jump through hoops to get your SD card music to show up in it. (need root).
Oh. I do like the stock launcher and keyboard. If you don't mess with them too much, they work pretty good.
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Games:
GTA3> Plays and looks great, also natively supports the ps3 controller but I'm sure you could reconfigure the controls if needed.
I also recommend getting Slide me marketplace installed (3rd party market). Then you can get some amazing emulators that used to be at premium price on the android market (and were/are the finest emulators around) for free . ie snesoid, nesoid, gbcoid, etc etc. The only one he seems to be charging for is N64oid. Pity cause I bought that back inthe day and now it's gone .
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It's really cool that GTA 3 supports a controller input! I'll have to check that out now.
And that the Slide me marketplace sounds really nifty. I guess I'll have to get that micro to mini USB dongle thing to plug in a gamepad and really unlock the emulator abilities of the tablet!
I HATE how little Sony's PSN games offer. With everything they've collected from me, I refuse to buy MediEvil and such twice. My account info should all be able to transfer over and unlock that.
Thank you all for this great list. My Tablet S should be here tomorrow, I hate that I will be at various appointments all day before I could get my hands on it.
I'm a little disappointed it does not interact more with the PS3, but I have my fingers cross that with the ICS update this matter will be address.
I'm still on the fence on if I should root or not.
Got my Sony tablet S, and after playing with it for about 5 hours last night, this thing is great! This is my first tablet so really nothing to compare it to.
My wife which has a Kindle keyboard is loving this tablet, she loves the bigger screen, the fact that she can read in the dark without a desk lamp, and most of all the shape.
So now i'm in the market for a second tablet as soon as may 1st, I will wait and see if Google comes with something like the rumors says, or maybe one of the new samsung, or the prime.
Thanks again for the list.
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It's really cool that GTA 3 supports a controller input! I'll have to check that out now.
And that the Slide me marketplace sounds really nifty. I guess I'll have to get that micro to mini USB dongle thing to plug in a gamepad and really unlock the emulator abilities of the tablet!
I HATE how little Sony's PSN games offer. With everything they've collected from me, I refuse to buy MediEvil and such twice. My account info should all be able to transfer over and unlock that.
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+1 for that
Sony isn't really doing his best I mean which PSone games do you have other then the silly ones available right now
These games I would like to see in the PS store:
1. Command and Conquer
2. C&C Red Alert 1
3. A Bugs Life
4. Ape Escape
5. Tomb Raider
6. Rayman
These games are already much more "Liked" then the simple games on ps store and still, Nothing more then just a couple of dumb old games..
And they need a controller or it is not playable except rayman.
Example: Fpse doesn't support ps3 Controller
Fancy widgets for a very nice HTC style clock and weather
for me,
Best Apps:
iTap Mobile RDP - a fantastic remote desktop app which uses requires no 3rd Party App to be installed on the pc. I use it at home and at work, and has gesture recognition.
Price: About $12
Mindjet - formally 'Thinking Space Pro', a paid for app, this is now owned by MindJet (who I think make enterprise level versions of the software) as a free app. Makes a great tool for at work.
Price: free
Best Games:
Sim City - Surprisingly good graphics and gameplay, though takes a little getting used to the controls.
Price: Can't remember, but about $4 iirc
Train Crisis HD - just a fun puzzle type game
Price: Approx $1
(sorry, wouldn't let me post links)
Is there one that exists? And if not any emulators?
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+1 to this. The only two (legitimate) emulators I know of are N64oid and Mupen64Plus AE. The latter is a very respected desktop emulator that's currently being worked on, and the former is a Yongzhoid production so yeah...
N64oid I know doesn't have any native gamepad support, which is a total shame. I can't find Mupen64 in the Market, and it looks like it might be a few more weeks before it gets put back up.
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+1 to this. The only two (legitimate) emulators I know of are N64oid and Mupen64Plus AE. The latter is a very respected desktop emulator that's currently being worked on, and the former is a Yongzhoid production so yeah...
N64oid I know doesn't have any native gamepad support, which is a total shame. I can't find Mupen64 in the Market, and it looks like it might be a few more weeks before it gets put back up.
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I actually have Mupen64 from when it was in the market, and from what I can tell there is no controller support. I guess I'm out of luck for now I would love to play some goldeneye with my controller instead of the ****ty onscreen controls. Thanks for the reply though.
PS3 controller is the only way. I have a Rapid Fire from Gamestop, and it has a Xbox 360 layout. But it's a PS3 bluetooth. So it works, just need 6Axis Tool via Play.
Edit: Then you need to have the IMEI mimic keypresses. Then map each key to a button. Then set it up. It takes like 15 minutes, but it's worth it.
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I actually ended up creating an N64oid touch profile in Sixaxis so I could have analog support.
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I actually ended up creating an N64oid touch profile in Sixaxis so I could have analog support.
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Guide or it didn't freaking happen! Lol, anyway, seriously, throw out a quick step-by-step? I'll admit I haven't tried recently, but I always get a headache when I decide I'm going to get the right analog stick to work right
Should work with USB/BT joystick Center. Its an app that lets you connect the Xbox controller (via USB). Then you can either map the buttons to keyboard input or to touch input on the screen. Works very well with analog controls an everything, i played through ModernCombat 3 this way
So it should work perfectly with any n64 emu that has overlay analog controls.
Thanks a lot, I'm going to check it out.
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+1 to this. The only two (legitimate) emulators I know of are N64oid and Mupen64Plus AE. The latter is a very respected desktop emulator that's currently being worked on, and the former is a Yongzhoid production so yeah...
N64oid I know doesn't have any native gamepad support, which is a total shame. I can't find Mupen64 in the Market, and it looks like it might be a few more weeks before it gets put back up.
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n64oid has gamepad support. I know if my old usbPC dual shock controller works fine on it, Xbox 360 controller should do fine. my controller works perfectly playing Golden eye, Perfect dark, Mario64, Castlevania64. and others on my prime. you just have to go into its settings and map the controller/buttons.
oh n I didn't need any 3rd. party apps to get it working. worked instantly once I went into N64oid settings and mapped the controls. Same with my NeoGeo emulator on Prime called Neodroid. I also have FPse, Snesdroid, Genesoid, and a Turbografix 16/PC engine emulator. my controller works perfectly with them all. controller especially good when playing the many neogeo fighting games I have like Art of Fighting 3, Samurai Showdown 5, Saturday Night Slammasters, Fatal Fury3 and more. All the Metal slugs work great also. I have like Metal Slug 3-5 and Metal Slug X. I had a Sega Saturn emulator but its like an alpha build and was never really completed. Games played way too slow up there.
My understanding is that it has digital gamepad support? Meaning that all the buttons work except for the analog sticks. Did you find out a way to get the analog sticks working, with full analog support, just in the N64oid app itself?
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My understanding is that it has digital gamepad support? Meaning that all the buttons work except for the analog sticks. Did you find out a way to get the analog sticks working, with full analog support, just in the N64oid app itself?
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my analog sticks work fine. with no extra app needed. on all emulators. ive only needed to map one analog stick. i map that one for movement. then when you click it in, i mapped that pause. other stick i click in and have mapped to select. some games like golden eye or perfect dark, clicking in the second analog stick is to fire my weapon.
its easy to map the analog stick though. just go into settings and hardware map controls. then for the movement like up , down, left, right, just map those to the matching direction on analog stick. very simple.
analog stick for movement works great on Fpse when im playing Marvel vs. Capcom or Einhander. also Strider and Final Doom. Einhander is like the best shooter ever. i wish android developer would make something of that quality caliber. it looks n plays great on prime.
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my analog sticks work fine. with no extra app needed. on all emulators. ive only needed to map one analog stick. i map that one for movement. then when you click it in, i mapped that pause. other stick i click in and have mapped to select. some games like golden eye or perfect dark, clicking in the second analog stick is to fire my weapon.
its easy to map the analog stick though. just go into settings and hardware map controls. then for the movement like up , down, left, right, just map those to the matching direction on analog stick. very simple.
analog stick for movement works great on Fpse when im playing Marvel vs. Capcom or Einhander. also Strider and Final Doom. Einhander is like the best shooter ever. i wish android developer would make something of that quality caliber. it looks n plays great on prime.
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Ah, gotcha. While that method works, what is happening is that pressing up on the analog stick equals "Up", pressing left equals "Left" and so on and so on. This is just replicating digital input on the analog sticks.
Analog support/input means that when you just barely press left or right on the analog stick then your car (in a racing game, for example) just barely moves left or right. And when you push it all the way to the left or right you turn much more dramatically. This is also very evident in character movement for first person shooters (difference between walking slowly forward and running) and a game like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.
That is, unless I just completely missed something on the various emulators I use and I just typed a long post that makes me look like an idiot.
irishtexmex said:
Ah, gotcha. While that method works, what is happening is that pressing up on the analog stick equals "Up", pressing left equals "Left" and so on and so on. This is just replicating digital input on the analog sticks.
Analog support/input means that when you just barely press left or right on the analog stick then your car (in a racing game, for example) just barely moves left or right. And when you push it all the way to the left or right you turn much more dramatically. This is also very evident in character movement for first person shooters (difference between walking slowly forward and running) and a game like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.
That is, unless I just completely missed something on the various emulators I use and I just typed a long post that makes me look like an idiot.
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I didn't think the emulators got that detailed on movement..lmao. I see what you saying though. I guess its not that serious for me. as long as I can live in direction I want, I'm good. I have tony hawk pro skater3 on prime and it moves just fine. same with my first person games. nothing seems excessive in movement. I just barely move it if i want to move slow or something.
what's the likelihood of being able to emulate an arcade light gun game, for example point blank, on the nvidia shield tv, using a wiimote as a controller?
does anyone have the means to try this?
Mr Creosote said:
what's the likelihood of being able to emulate an arcade light gun game, for example point blank, on the nvidia shield tv, using a wiimote as a controller?
does anyone have the means to try this?
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I have tried so many ways to make this work. The only app that ever kind of worked was USB/BT Joystick Center Gold. I was able to use that on an older Minix I was using to play games on my TV. It worked well, but I haven't been able to find a way to make it work with the SATV. I have installed the app on my SATV and I am rooted, but it says it can't find "uinput /dev" and so it won't work.
I have looked into the mayflash dolphinbar, https://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-W01...474996745&sr=8-1&keywords=mayflash+dolphinbar
I actually emailed them and asked if there was a way to make IR input work as a touch mouse on android, and they said it didn't have that functionality, but if I knew a developer who could point them in the right direction, they would build it in. Unfortunately I don't know anyone. Dolphin emulator achieved some level of wiimote functionality in the emulator, but it was only in the dolphin emulator, not system wide, and I am not even sure if they had the IR working, I think it was just the wii buttons.
I have tried everything, but I haven't had any success. If you stumble on something, please let me know. I used to be able to play TimeCrisis from PSXE, there were a number of android games that worked well with it too, like Major Mayhem. It would be awesome to get a wiimote working as an IR mouse on our SATV.
Possible solution
If anyone is interested in this, there is a product on kickstarter that may solve the problem. Right now Android support is on the road map, which all know means it may never come. But, it's definitely worth keeping an eye on!
Search for the Sinden Lightgun. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sindenlightgun/the-sinden-lightgun/description
Mame is definitely a lost cause and the wiimote in general via Android. In theory I think the most plausible way would be by using the dolphinbar as a mouse pointer. I played around with all this a few years ago and the only joy I had was gamestreaming the PC version of dolphin with the dolphinbar attached to the PC. I found the gun was terrible unless you were 3 metres away from the screen minimum. However if you can get this set up it works perfectly and can enjoy games like House of the Dead, Goldeneye Wii, Dead Space whatever it's called etc.
Besides PPSSPP and Dolphin (Gamecube & Wii) are there other emulators that people have tested on the switch?
Personally, I'd like to see PS2 emulation, but I know it's a bit of a stretch. :silly:
Also, what are some favorites that play well on the switch?
I ask for discussion since there isn't a thread around.
Drastic and the Beta of Redream should work well.
I guess DamonPS2 should be able to play some lighter games reasonably but don't expect too much.
These are the emulators I have downloaded that I can personally confirm work:
-SNES9X, runs all of the SNES games I have flawlessly.
-Mupen64Pluz FZ, runs all of the N64 games I have flawlessly.
-My OldBoy!, runs all GB and GBC games I have flawlessly.
-My Boy!, runs all GBA games I have flawlessly.
-Dolphin MMJ, does not run all Gamecube games I have flawlessly. (further information below)
-nds4droid, does not run all DS games I have flawlessly. (further information below)
-PPSSPP, runs all PSP games I have flawlessly.
-Redream, runs all Dreamcast games I have flawlessly.
I wasn't able to get the regular Dolphin emulator to run Gamcube games, let alone even install Wii games. The Dolphin MMJ version has some lag, but I don't know the proper optimization through settings that is required to get it to run flawlessly. Other users have posted that theirs work flawlessly, but I haven't seen an extensive list of the settings they use.
Nds4droid lags with the Pokemon games. I've tried to download over 15 different DraStic DS emulator APK files and none have worked for me. They kept displaying an error message of not having something. I can't recall exactly off the top of my head at the moment.
Could someone create a foolproof guide in text or video format as to how to get Dolphin and DraStic to run properly?
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These are the emulators I have downloaded that I can personally confirm work:
-SNES9X, runs all of the SNES games I have flawlessly.
-Mupen64Pluz FZ, runs all of the N64 games I have flawlessly.
-My OldBoy!, runs all GB and GBC games I have flawlessly.
-My Boy!, runs all GBA games I have flawlessly.
-Dolphin MMJ, does not run all Gamecube games I have flawlessly. (further information below)
-nds4droid, does not run all DS games I have flawlessly. (further information below)
-PPSSPP, runs all PSP games I have flawlessly.
-Redream, runs all Dreamcast games I have flawlessly.
I wasn't able to get the regular Dolphin emulator to run Gamcube games, let alone even install Wii games. The Dolphin MMJ version has some lag, but I don't know the proper optimization through settings that is required to get it to run flawlessly. Other users have posted that theirs work flawlessly, but I haven't seen an extensive list of the settings they use.
Nds4droid lags with the Pokemon games. I've tried to download over 15 different DraStic DS emulator APK files and none have worked for me. They kept displaying an error message of not having something. I can't recall exactly off the top of my head at the moment.
Could someone create a foolproof guide in text or video format as to how to get Dolphin and DraStic to run properly?
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Well I'd imagine all retro stuff to work flawlessly. Probably everything in the retroarch set really. Really hoping GZDoom and Morrowind work flawless on android as well, while not an emulator nor engine on thing I'm kinda looking forward to is Zenonia and Chaos Rings, should it actually run
As for setting up Dolphin; there's this at least
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Well I'd imagine all retro stuff to work flawlessly. Probably everything in the retroarch set really. Really hoping GZDoom and Morrowind work flawless on android as well, while not an emulator nor engine on thing I'm kinda looking forward to is Zenonia and Chaos Rings, should it actually run
As for setting up Dolphin; there's this at least
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If someone gets Morrowind running, I'd definitely be interested in playing that as I've never played it before.
Unfortunately, that tutorial doesn't help me because I didn't need the Octopus application since the Joy Con fix works with Dolphin MMJ. I'm referring to the graphical and enhancement settings in Dolphin.
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If someone gets Morrowind running, I'd definitely be interested in playing that as I've never played it before.
Unfortunately, that tutorial doesn't help me because I didn't need the Octopus application since the Joy Con fix works with Dolphin MMJ. I'm referring to the graphical and enhancement settings in Dolphin.
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you could try this https://gbatemp.net/threads/openmw-for-switch.540250/
Nila-sama said:
These are the emulators I have downloaded that I can personally confirm work:
Could someone create a foolproof guide in text or video format as to how to get Dolphin and DraStic to run properly?
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DraStic runs perfectly bought from the playstore.
DraStic works fine for me, too. It does show some kind of an pop-up error at the beginning, but the emulator itself works fine afterwards.
When it comes to other emulators besides DraStic:
PPSSPP: Played only Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, emulator is working great, although SW: TFU does have *some* slowdowns (but this is the same across all platforms, so very probably not a performance issue), but overall completely playable.
When it comes to games:
Star Wars: KOTOR: I am using version 1.0.9 (from Amazon Appstore) and it works perfectly (including gamepad right out of the box).
GTA: San Andreas: Working fine, but the sticks are not working for movements. Buttons work fine.
Half-Life 2: Native Tegra version, works perfectly fine.
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If someone gets Morrowind running, I'd definitely be interested in playing that as I've never played it before.
Unfortunately, that tutorial doesn't help me because I didn't need the Octopus application since the Joy Con fix works with Dolphin MMJ. I'm referring to the graphical and enhancement settings in Dolphin.
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Remember, F-Droid is a thing, my friend. Just like a brother above, we're not limited to Google stuff, I for one, have no intention to use Google stuff. I'll be using FDroid, Aurora Store and Amazon c:
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.libopenmw.openmw/ I do believe this uses SDL for joysticks.
My list of emulators are as follows; for everything else I use retroarch.
PSX:
Epsxe - nice psx emulator, works exactly how you would imagine a box standard emulator to work and does the job quite well. Can’t say any downsides to this emulator
Fpse: my favourite out of the two, upscales into HD and even forces a widescreen that doesn’t end in a stretched out mess. Honestly this emulator will make tekken 3 look like tekken 6 (a slight over exaggeration but it’s worth it). The downside is there is no free version and it’s gonna cost you a couple of quid/dollars.
Dreamcast:
Reicast- it works as well as it’s lakka version only this time you can dock the switch for TV. Has a widescreen hack and looks quite nice in places although some textures don’t work right (shenmue need more than a plaster to cover that hole in his face). Downsides are some games don’t work.
Redream - works great, all games I’ve tried run fine including stupid invaders (if that’s what you’re into) that being said, that game doesn’t get past the Sega logo in reicast so this emulator offers more support! I can’t remember if you have to pay for it though and just like reicast it doesn’t support “win ce” games like resident evil 2.
PS2:
Damonps2 - runs a little worse than dolphin, I haven’t found a single game I could consider as playable in that emulator but it shows promise and apparently is due an upgrade that will offer a lot of speed up. This emulator has seen some controversy because the dev ripped off code from the pc version of psx2 and I believe there’s some lawsuit involved. Has the most drawbacks. The free version won’t let you save and the paid version asks for your **** size amongst all over personal data as well as it won’t work if you’re offline or use the xposed frame network. It also shuts itself if you have Magisk installed. To get it to work again you have to hide the application with Magisk hide.
DS:
Drastic - you might have to pay but damn is it worth it. Looks amazing and can swap your screens instantly by pressing the thumb sticks in, not so great for games that utilise both screens at once like Sonic Rush but plays great!!
Like I say everything else I use retroarch for.
thatmellon said:
My list of emulators are as follows; for everything else I use retroarch.
PSX:
Epsxe - nice psx emulator, works exactly how you would imagine a box standard emulator to work and does the job quite well. Can’t say any downsides to this emulator
Fpse: my favourite out of the two, upscales into HD and even forces a widescreen that doesn’t end in a stretched out mess. Honestly this emulator will make tekken 3 look like tekken 6 (a slight over exaggeration but it’s worth it). The downside is there is no free version and it’s gonna cost you a couple of quid/dollars.
Dreamcast:
Reicast- it works as well as it’s lakka version only this time you can dock the switch for TV. Has a widescreen hack and looks quite nice in places although some textures don’t work right (shenmue need more than a plaster to cover that hole in his face). Downsides are some games don’t work.
Redream - works great, all games I’ve tried run fine including stupid invaders (if that’s what you’re into) that being said, that game doesn’t get past the Sega logo in reicast so this emulator offers more support! I can’t remember if you have to pay for it though and just like reicast it doesn’t support “win ce” games like resident evil 2.
PS2:
Damonps2 - runs a little worse than dolphin, I haven’t found a single game I could consider as playable in that emulator but it shows promise and apparently is due an upgrade that will offer a lot of speed up. This emulator has seen some controversy because the dev ripped off code from the pc version of psx2 and I believe there’s some lawsuit involved. Has the most drawbacks. The free version won’t let you save and the paid version asks for your **** size amongst all over personal data as well as it won’t work if you’re offline or use the xposed frame network. It also shuts itself if you have Magisk installed. To get it to work again you have to hide the application with Magisk hide.
DS:
Drastic - you might have to pay but damn is it worth it. Looks amazing and can swap your screens instantly by pressing the thumb sticks in, not so great for games that utilise both screens at once like Sonic Rush but plays great!!
Like I say everything else I use retroarch for.
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For PSX I'd honestly recomend RetroArch (Both android and HorizonOS). It already has Upscaling and it's free. As for Tekken 3 to Tekken 6, I'd yet to find out, haha.
I'm Glad that the Dreamcast works great!! Do you have any recommendations?
PS2- I kinda expected that. Have you tried the Play! Emulator?
DS- Can you do anti aliasing or Upscaling?
I'm currently in the process of getting it on the switch (Had a week long exam) but I'll gladly report any findings I get as well.
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For PSX I'd honestly recomend RetroArch (Both android and HorizonOS). It already has Upscaling and it's free. As for Tekken 3 to Tekken 6, I'd yet to find out, haha.
I'm Glad that the Dreamcast works great!! Do you have any recommendations?
PS2- I kinda expected that. Have you tried the Play! Emulator?
DS- Can you do anti aliasing or Upscaling?
I'm currently in the process of getting it on the switch (Had a week long exam) but I'll gladly report any findings I get as well.
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Well it’s the widescreen hack that sells Fpse for me, epsxe has one but the graphics flicker a bit. Although I think epsxe runs games better, I do get graphical issues when using the gl plugin. (Tekken 6 for PSP... at a push haha).
I’d recommend using redream for Dreamcast as it offers more support. I’m a big fan of the sonic games and hey run perfectly. I have a lot of fighters on there to and it’s much easier to set up 2 player with redream.
I haven’t managed to get play! working yet, retroarch crashes when I boot it and any app I’ve installed from google searches don’t work or are fake (or maybe I’m doing something wrong).
Yes, the DS can do anti aliasing, I can’t describe how nice they look upscaled. Especially the more 3D heavy games, run really smooth too! Loads of options, i’d Recommend having a look at a few reviews, but it runs amazing in the switch.
I’ve recently downloaded arc browser after a few days of trying to fathom the very poor tutorials of setting up Hyperspin. It’s a nice GUI to load all your games for different emulators in one app. It’s nice to look through all my roms with added cover art and fan art, it does cost like £8 though.
I will add that all emulators I’ve tried to run made by “Robert Broglia” like MD.EMU and Neo Geo emulators do not work in docked mode, it’s almost as though the apps themselves just don’t understand what it is. I managed to get a Sega CD game running through MD.emu docked when I loaded the game through arc browser and it loads and plays and then crashes when you exit making it so you have to undock and redock the switch.
Dolphin works fine for me but the remapping of control for Wii doesn't want to stick after i launch a game. When it does it seems to forget half of the remapping. Anybody else?
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DraStic works fine for me, too. It does show some kind of an pop-up error at the beginning, but the emulator itself works fine afterwards.
When it comes to other emulators besides DraStic:
PPSSPP: Played only Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, emulator is working great, although SW: TFU does have *some* slowdowns (but this is the same across all platforms, so very probably not a performance issue), but overall completely playable.
When it comes to games:
Star Wars: KOTOR: I am using version 1.0.9 (from Amazon Appstore) and it works perfectly (including gamepad right out of the box).
GTA: San Andreas: Working fine, but the sticks are not working for movements. Buttons work fine.
Half-Life 2: Native Tegra version, works perfectly fine.
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Are you certain about the version of KOTOR? I purchased first from Google Play and received version 1.0.6 which hangs, then bought it from Amazon Appstore and received version 1.0.7 which appears to be the latest currently available and it isn't loading fully either.