Are there any apps that I should keep running and not have my task killer kill? I'm rooted BTW.
Also I have seen improvement using a task killer so please keep this on topic to my question, no preaching about how task killers are not worth it. Thanks.
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Seriously, you shouldn't be using a task killer at all except if there's a misbehaving app that won't stop on its own. This is linux, not Windows.
Let the phone manage its own memory. Many times using a task killer just makes things worse. There's plenty of reading material on why if you google for it, so I won't bother with long details.
Start here on xda though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6426198
If you really think memory management is an issue, there are two apps I consider safe to use. AutoStarts which can prevent certain apps from starting up on their own, and AutoKiller, which isn't really a task killer, despite the name, but a way to tweak Android's own internal memory management parameters.
In linux, free memory is wasted memory, you want those apps "running" in the background so that when you want to switch to them, they're pre-loaded. Most of them aren't doing anything anyways, they're just sitting there idle until you open them...
Hmm despite my statement about keeping this on topic, I haven't seen that article till now. That article makes more sense than people just preaching. I'm going to try it. Thanks
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Hmm despite my statement about keeping this on topic, I haven't seen that article till now. That article makes more sense than people just preaching. I'm going to try it. Thanks
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Wow I totally didn't see your second sentence about don't tell you not to use one... D'oh! Living proof that we only see what we want to see.
Hope the article was interesting and might have changed your mind.
2 words... midget porn. /thread
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I've been seeing a couple popping up in the AppBrain recommendations, but really, are these apps necessary? Or is it just another story like task managers i.e: not necessary, but if it makes you feel better, install it?
Im not Good at these stuffs, but i guess the chanse is pretty small to get virus on your Android. But i guess it could be Good to install an antivirus prgramme if something wud happen
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Nope not necessary unless you're the type that likes to go on some shifty sites , or do other weird things
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Yeah I reckon they're pointless. Was just wondering if people are actually buying into that...poor buggers. I would imagine all it does is slow down your phone and easy battery.
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Yeah I reckon they're pointless. Was just wondering if people are actually buying into that...poor buggers. I would imagine all it does is slow down your phone and easy battery.
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now days...there is even anti virus software for Apple products...of course there is the need for Andriod ones too! all those marketing gimmicks full of bollocks and bull****...
Depends
Well it depends , sometimes you would need to download externel items from the web which may contain a virus also some/most antiviruses include phone tracer so depends what your looking for
I dont really think it is needed because it a linux based os and there are very few number of known viruses out in the world which really affect the phone .. but for your own satisfaction you are free to choose whether to install an antivirus or not ...
It makes you feel better after I read about the Droid.Dream virus, but those don't come out often at all and if you download from the Market Google usually remote kills it.
And what about viruses from web browsing? Can I get them this way?
Dude read my post once again !!
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Even I'm wondering what to do with av..actually don't want to install, but some articles really forcing to install..confused :-/
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Install lbe security and Droid wall if you want.. This is the best combination of app to avoid any type of attack.
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Yesterday I have installed avast
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Install lbe security and Droid wall if you want.. This is the best combination of app to avoid any type of attack.
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definitely recommend Droid Wall! control what has access to internet via a simple tick box! great app!
had 3 virus on my stock rooted rom. using nq av
I am an Virus removal expert, i dont even need any AV program to protect from virus...
Is it really worth removing or freezing the bloatware, or does it just make you "feel" good that you got rid of something you don't need? Is performance increased significantly? What did you remove?
I'm currently not rooted, but have been closing "running" apps that I don't require. Just wondering if there are truly any performance benefits to be taken advantage of. Thanks.
In general, bloatware has no effect unless it is running in the background.
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In general, bloatware has no effect unless it is running in the background.
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This, although some bloatware apps ALWAYS run in the background even if you force stop them they come back. This can slow it down but I wouldn't say it is a significant performance boost. The big thing is to open up more space by removing things you don't care about.
Do we know which, if any, bloatware apps always run on the NT? I don't have it with me to check.
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Do we know which, if any, bloatware apps always run on the NT? I don't have it with me to check.
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Always be very careful when removing programs. Especially anything with the word "google" in it. There can be interrelationships that when broken affect other processes.
Carrier IQ will slow down anything its on fairly significantly. But I doubt the Nook has that.
Just out of interest is there an actual need for such applications as android is linux and I never install apps without reading their reviews first. So is there a point to these apps or are they just wanting you to drain your battery faster?
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Just out of interest is there an actual need for such applications as android is linux and I never install apps without reading their reviews first. So is there a point to these apps or are they just wanting you to drain your battery faster?
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I've not bothered with any, however recently started running Samsung Mobile Security, doesn't seem to affect battery and silently runs in the background. Available via Samsung Apps.
There is no point to antivirus apps on android, your best bet is to watch out what you install and always check the permissions something asks for, and if it seems to ask for stuff it shouldn't need, eg permissions to send sms's or call numbers on something like a wallpaper app don't install it.
Using popular/well rated apps from known devs/using your common sense is far better than these supposed anti virus apps.
Just what I thought to be honest with you guys. I just wanted to see other peoples opinion on it as I've been reading on some threads people have actually paid for avg pro etc and i just thought what's the point.
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I have Kaspersky Internet Security software on my device.
You can get it free if you bank with Barclays UK. ( i don't bank with Barclays. . . lol )
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It's not worth it just for the antivirus part tbh. Market has inbuilt protection against known threats, which is all most AV software gives.
Maybe some people like the extras, like remote backup, wipe, tracker etc... But most of that is available free.
If you really must use AV, at least use lookout. Others just use the app name to decide if it's malicious (was tested by chainsdd who compiled hello world using a particular package name, then had it setting off avg...)
Do you have the link to chainsdd who compiled this list please
Thank you
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Just out of interest is there an actual need for such applications as android is linux and I never install apps without reading their reviews first. So is there a point to these apps or are they just wanting you to drain your battery faster?
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Use Lookout or ESET.
There has been an abundance of Malware apps posted on Market and more and more are slipping through and then been pulled later so its best to have something installed just incase.
Common sense is your best protection but its best to have a fall back.
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Do you have the link to chainsdd who compiled this list please
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pulser_g2 didn't say ChainsDD compiled a list (re-read it), but he is referring to this
http://androidsu.com/2011/06/a-word-about-superuser-and-security/
Anti-virus software does only one thing *well*...And that is make money for the companies who push it.
oinkylicious thank you for the link and it is very useful to know that information
Thank you
Thanks for the great responses. I do have common sense but just don't like the fact that companies charge a considerable amount for it. But I have donated towards the titanium back up pro which is handy and worth it. Also thanks for the suggestions of anti virus apps
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i have avast mobile security and its very good on the battery.. havent had any malware issues yet so dont know if it is any good
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i have avast mobile security and its very good on the battery.. havent had any malware issues yet so dont know if it is any good
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I guess it is doing its job then if there is a threat... Lol
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Saw an article on Google+ and was wondering if anyone has experimented with this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
[APK] Seeder 1.1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction
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Saw an article on Google+ and was wondering if anyone has experimented with this app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
[APK] Seeder 1.1 entropy generator to provide significant lag reduction
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yup plenty of people are using it.. definitely seems to smooth things out.
So can this be used on ICS? I see where it's mentioned but doesn't specifically say. It looks interesting
Any word on the effect on battery life?
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I have it bundled in CounterShrike 3.0, and available as a download for PAC-Man. In both cases, it's the background service only and not the app, but the effect is the same. I'm quite skeptical of performance tweaks, but so far, this one seems legit. It does not help general performance. It does help anything that uses entropy...app lauching, task switching (including return to home), many list based loads (Facebook newsfeed as one example), and so on.
The add on version I have is generic enough to run on any ROM and device as long as the kernel supports init.d. http://androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390233485161005378
Edit: I've seen zero battery impact. If anything, it may be a bit better, but that's totally subjective.
I'll give this a shot
I've been running the flashable script version for a few days. It does appear to make a difference though I haven't done any hard testing.
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Seems to make a slight difference only noticeable sometimes on inef dues. Antutu scores are the same. I think what I notice most is it being a little snappier between app switching. Hopefully it doesn't affect my battery life
I bought the app from the Play Store, but it deactivates itself every time the screen is turned off. Also, it's never prompted me for root access, so I'm quite skeptical that it's doing anything on my phone.
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I bought the app from the Play Store, but it deactivates itself every time the screen is turned off. Also, it's never prompted me for root access, so I'm quite skeptical that it's doing anything on my phone.
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If it didn't ask for root access then it isn't working at all
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I bought the app from the Play Store, but it deactivates itself every time the screen is turned off. Also, it's never prompted me for root access, so I'm quite skeptical that it's doing anything on my phone.
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Is it Seeder by LCIS for 1.49? I may try and see. But I already flashed that zip shrike posted so I'd have to restore my nandroid and then try it
So, what about the article on the portal about these claims of improvement being false? Does anyone have any real proof either way about this or is it just a placebo? When really amazing devs not only say it works but also include it in their ROMs, it makes you think there's a little more to it. Just curious.
Quite a few reputable devs out there saying this does nothing at all that's it's all placebo.
Idk if it's this or something else I flashed but my phone will not go over like 550mb of ram. So every app I open has to reload kind of
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Is it Seeder by LCIS for 1.49? I may try and see. But I already flashed that zip shrike posted so I'd have to restore my nandroid and then try it
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They are both the same thing, you have the option of installing it as a script and let init.d start it or as an app..
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They are both the same thing, you have the option of installing it as a script and let init.d start it or as an app..
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K if I remember when I restore my nandroid i'll try it and see. I can see a difference but on faster/newer phones or AOSP Roms you more than likely won't see any. But after flashing that it's definitely different. Not sure if it's for the better or not since I can only tell with switching apps.
Edit: I feel like any tweaked rom is going to do the same. I just bought that app and it made literally no difference. Maybe the difference I was seeing was from the animations I flashed. Lol interesting. I also notice my ram is being used better without the tweaks.. What do the tweaks actually do?
I didn't notice much of a difference so I uninstalled it. And whatever you do, don't pay for it in the Play Store. Go to the thread in the OP and get it for free.
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Just installed shrikes background version and I definetly notice a difference with app launching
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I didn't notice much of a difference so I uninstalled it. And whatever you do, don't pay for it in the Play Store. Go to the thread in the OP and get it for free.
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This.
I downloaded the xda version and installed the apk...I'm not sure exactly what it does or how it does it BUT right away I noticed that maps are loading much faster. We'll see how it goes.
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I have compiled 82 system apps that I have frozen via titanium backup pro, I have risked a lot with my 600$ device and guinea pigged myself as a test subject ,for the greater cause .Of course I do have plenty nandroid backups if anything were to have gone wrong .As of now there are no know issues, force closes, etc....force closes are common when u freeze the wrong app, just for future reference !Also some force closes render the phone helpless unless you do a battery pull..in which the HTC one dorsnt have a battery to pull.
So as far as my compiled list is concerned it Is safe for everyone to use.
Everything works as should. You can choose to safely freeze whichever of the 82 apps/apks you prefer to. Feel free to add any apps you have also tested to be safe to freeze .
This greatly helps reduce lag , free up ram and and may even provide better battery life ,due to android os that sometimes has many system apps... that we don't know what they do exactly but many greatly affect our battery life because they unnecessarily run in the background and drain batter and the majority of them we never use .
This is the list freeze as many or as little as you desire to.
Every one check marked indicates it's safe to freeze .
NOTE: DO NOT DELETE/REMOVE ANY OF THESE APPS IN TITANIUM BACKUP UNLESS YOU POSITIVELY HAVE A NANDROID BACKUP IN cwm or twrp RECOVERY.I AM ONLY PROVIDING INFO ON "FREEZING APPS" "NOT DELETING".
I WILL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OR FEEL OBLIGATED TOO...FOR THE LACK OF FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS POSTED .
Please leave feedback with your observations towards any improvements or issues if any that you may experience.
Mod plz delete
Well, this list is very subjective. Alot of what you froze alot of people actually use. Like street view...document viewer...the remote app...among others. From looking at what you diabled it seems all you want to do is make calls and text lol.
THIS IS ABOUT WHAT CAN BE FROZEN WITHOUT ANY SYSTEM ISSUES OR FORCE CLOSES .
If you want to unappreciated that's fine too.
Obviously I have takin the freezing to an extreme,it's called freezing as many apps as possible that DONT AFFECT SYSTEM FUNCTION IN A NEGATIVE MANOR.There are many I'm sure who don't use these apps and would find It fine to do so ....and only care about speeding up there device ...I have done no wrong ..infact if anything I've answered possible questions in the future on if them apps can be frozen ....maybe there are people who would want the most possible options .So it is up to whomever to pick and choose what they want to freeze from the list.All I have done was made It clear that if they want to take it to the extreme ,all these system apps and apks are safe to freeze with no issues .
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Thanks for this list bro. I'll pick and choose now
Give him an A for his efforts please guys
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THIS IS ABOUT WHAT CAN BE FROZEN WITHOUT ANY SYSTEM ISSUES OR FORCE CLOSES .
If you want to unappreciated that's fine too.
Obviously I have takin the freezing to an extreme,it's called freezing as many apps as possible that DONT AFFECT SYSTEM FUNCTION IN A NEGATIVE MANOR.There are many I'm sure who don't use these apps and would find It fine to do so ....and only care about speeding up there device ...I have done no wrong ..infact if anything I've answered possible questions in the future on if them apps can be frozen ....maybe there are people who would want the most possible options .So it is up to whomever to pick and choose what they want to freeze from the list.All I have done was made It clear that if they want to take it to the extreme ,all these system apps and apks are safe to freeze with no issues .
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OK OK I get it it.
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Well, this list is very subjective. Alot of what you froze alot of people actually use. Like street view...document viewer...the remote app...among others. From looking at what you diabled it seems all you want to do is make calls and text lol.
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A Mod is going to move this to Gen because it is not Development just Gen info. Now if you had a Rom that had these files removed that would be different.
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Mod plz delete
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wait until he comes back asking us why hes HTC One is being all buggy
jesus you have 2GB of RAM
I'd recommend disabling for at least a week before uninstalling/deleting.
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wait until he comes back asking us why hes HTC One is being all buggy
jesus you have 2GB of RAM
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Lol. Yep.
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wait until he comes back asking us why hes HTC One is being all buggy
jesus you have 2GB of RAM
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i could have 2 tb of ram and id still disable stuff like everything tmobile put on there. that security thing and all the tmobile notifications are annoying as ****. also why do i need all the social networking apps running with access to my phone when i dont use them
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Lol. Yep.
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wait until he comes back asking us why hes HTC One is being all buggy
jesus you have 2GB of RAM
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You think you quoted the wrong post
Exactly what I was looking for, one of the first things I do when I got my phone. I can confirm this is a good list