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I am trying to decide between the samsung infuse and the motorola atrix. I'm wondering if the atrix's dual core is an improvement over the infuse's single core.
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I haven't seen anything noticble over other phones, I think at this point it's all about optimizing the os to the hardware. That way most phones run smooth and don't need to be that powerful. Poker even now the atrix I get lags when using the browser or watching some videos. Normal phone usage is comparable to phones with just 1ghz processor like the galaxy s or nexus one.
xnickx5757 said:
I am trying to decide between the samsung infuse and the motorola atrix. I'm wondering if the atrix's dual core is an improvement over the infuse's single core.
thanks
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Well, run a Linpack test and see if the Infuse scores in the 70s. The results to that are the technical answer. Day to day use, I would say it helps, as I have some SetCPU profiles set up to max out at 750 MHz if the CPU temp gets too hot with overclocking (only 1100 MHz at this point), and it is noticeably slower- I would approximate, in my novice opinion, 750 MHz dual core is approximately equal to 1200 MHz single core, if all other things are equal.
i think i am going to go with the atrix. even though the screen is smaller, i feel that it has a lot more room for improvement then the infuse. Knowing how great the community is here, I have no doubt that the duel core and 1gb of ram will be put to good use
xnickx5757 said:
i think i am going to go with the atrix. even though the screen is smaller, i feel that it has a lot more room for improvement then the infuse. Knowing how great the community is here, I have no doubt that the duel core and 1gb of ram will be put to good use
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Good Choice. Honestly, as of right now the dual core is kinda useless, but when you buy any technology you always have to try to be future proof. It does not matter not, but it could matter later.
I would pick the atrix over the infuse, for other reasons. Such as Webtop (through HDMI), Bigger battery, Size (Opinion). The dual core vs single core should not be the central reason.
EDIT: Also the Infuse can currently be overclocked to 1.8 ghz.
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Good Choice. Honestly, as of right now the dual core is kinda useless, but when you buy any technology you always have to try to be future proof. It does not matter not, but it could matter later.
I would pick the atrix over the infuse, for other reasons. Such as Webtop (through HDMI), Bigger battery, Size (Opinion). The dual core vs single core should not be the central reason.
EDIT: Also the Infuse can currently be overclocked to 1.8 ghz.
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are there any custom roms out for the atrix yet? and is there a way to remove motoblur? From what I have read that seems to cause most of the problems.
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are there any custom roms out for the atrix yet? and is there a way to remove motoblur? From what I have read that seems to cause most of the problems.
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look in the dev section....
short answer - yes there are roms
moto blur? sorta... its being worked on
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are there any custom roms out for the atrix yet? and is there a way to remove motoblur? From what I have read that seems to cause most of the problems.
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Yes there are. Right now there around 4+ roms for Gingerbread, expect more when gingerbread officially launches. With CM7 on the horizon.
There are roms that reduce motoblur if not completely eliminate. I am still using froyo with GingerBlur P-ROM have been completely happy with it. It reduces moto blur to almost nothing.
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Yes there are. Right now there around 4+ roms for Gingerbread, expect more when gingerbread officially launches. With CM7 on the horizon.
There are roms that reduce motoblur if not completely eliminate. I am still using froyo with GingerBlur P-ROM have been completely happy with it. It reduces moto blur to almost nothing.
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Same here, battery on 2.3.4 is ****, well for me at least
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Same here, battery on 2.3.4 is ****, well for me at least
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im on ORFR 2.3.4 & battery life is so poor!
hope moto fixed this for the final release!
xnickx5757 said:
i think i am going to go with the atrix. even though the screen is smaller, i feel that it has a lot more room for improvement then the infuse. Knowing how great the community is here, I have no doubt that the duel core and 1gb of ram will be put to good use
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screen size is perfect imo. i had the HD7 and i loved the big sceen the first few weeks, then got tired of it. cool for videos, but thats what my laptop is for lol. its almost imposible to use with one hand, which gets annyoing. thats just a personal preference though.
just wait till they optimize software with our hardware completely, will run smooth as butter. also when/if we get CM7 or other complete ROM.
I had a Samsung Captivate and was able to upgrade, so I looked long and hard at the Moto Atrix, HTC Inspire or the Samsung Infuse. Here are some of my concerns that I weighed:
1) Internal memory - 8GB, 16GB, 16GB (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - tie between Atrix and Inspire
2) Program RAM - 512MB, 512MB, 1GB (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - Atrix wins this one - less need for a task killer as lot more memory to pre-load without bogging down the phone.
3) Screen resolution - 800x480, 800x480, 960x540 (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - Atrix wins this one - I was a little concerned how pixallated the 800x480 might look on the larger screens.
4) Screen size - 4.3, 4.5, 4.0 (Inspire, Infuse, Atrix) - Infuse - if you want the biggest screen
5) Processor cores - Atrix wins this one with 2 cores over 1 core in the other phones.
Also, I saw how long of a delay it was for Samsung to get Froyo out for the Captivate and there was very little info coming from them.
Updates to the Captivate were through the PC program Kies which was a joke - if you are interested in that.
Samsung had no real way to transfer files, etc. between the PC and phone other than USB drive mode.
On the Captivate, the update to Froyo meant that your programs and their data were wiped out. So you had to have something like Titanium, which means you have to root, which means that you void your phone's warranty.
I have been a long time supporter of Samsung phones, who has sold a lot of phones, but I think they have disgruntled a lot of customers and I just wanted to give someone eles a try.
I chose the Motorola Atrix, which I have had for the past week.
Moto provides several ways to transfer files and settings between phone and PC (Moto Phone Portal and Moto Media Link).
The 2 minor updates that have been OTA were effortless and Gingerbread is said to be right around the corner.
I think the features on the Atrix make it a wise choice to have a phone that won't be as outdated at the end of 2 years as the other 3 phones mentioned above (including the Captivate).
Hope this wasn't too long and hope it helps you decide.
Any chance Firefox can be swapped out for chrome on webtop? I finally got ubuntu going and tried chrome. The speed of chrome just leaves me speechless on how slow Firefox is. And firefox is slower on webtop. I know im comparing intel to arm cpus and less ram but the difference is night and day.
i was at work posting this so i need to clear confusion. i got ubuntu going in virtual box on MY LAPTOP and tried chrome. it's silly how fast it is. and that's where/why i was comparing intel to arm cpus. i might change to chrome soon because firefox is letting me down lately. everyone once in awhile it hogs up my ram (i have 8gigs, btw) and i have to restart it. and i also have to clarify firefox is slow on webtop and i think chrome would be much better because of the limited 1gb of ram. i didn't know chrome could run on linux, so that's why i was asking. is there enough developer power to do it? sorry for the confusion. i get rushed at work in the blink of an eye sometimes.
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no i dont think you can. i remember reading about it, not 100 percent sure and yes chrome is way better. how did you even do that, cause the forum on how to do it , is so complicated, i have done everything else lol, new rom, unlocked, and overclocked.
webtop question
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no i dont think you can. . . . . i have done everything else lol, new rom, unlocked, and overclocked.
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im on stock froyo using firefox 3.6.16 on webtop & thinking about updating to gingerbread to get the 'faster browsing experience of firefox 4'
-is this true? is webtop on gingerbread really faster? my froyo now is very stable battwise and all, its just the claimed faster webtop browsing thats swaying me to move to gingerbread
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no i dont think you can. i remember reading about it, not 100 percent sure and yes chrome is way better. how did you even do that, cause the forum on how to do it , is so complicated, i have done everything else lol, new rom, unlocked, and overclocked.
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Currently on Atrix full Ubuntu 9 Chromium isnt supported.
In Ubuntu 10, it is, and Sogarth may someday give it to us!
pukemon said:
Any chance Firefox can be swapped out for chrome on webtop? I finally got ubuntu going and tried chrome. The speed of chrome just leaves me speechless on how slow Firefox is. And firefox is slower on webtop. I know im comparing intel to arm cpus and less ram but the difference is night and day.
i was at work posting this so i need to clear confusion. i got ubuntu going in virtual box on MY LAPTOP and tried chrome. it's silly how fast it is. and that's where/why i was comparing intel to arm cpus. i might change to chrome soon because firefox is letting me down lately. everyone once in awhile it hogs up my ram (i have 8gigs, btw) and i have to restart it. and i also have to clarify firefox is slow on webtop and i think chrome would be much better because of the limited 1gb of ram. i didn't know chrome could run on linux, so that's why i was asking. is there enough developer power to do it? sorry for the confusion. i get rushed at work in the blink of an eye sometimes.
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It wasn't built for the ARM architecture, not a chance.
BravoMotorola said:
It wasn't built for the ARM architecture, not a chance.
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party pooper.
Actually you can crosscompile the code to get arm support but javascript wont work..
Http://tinyurl.com/3w7cs2h
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I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
With a custom kernel, most benchmarks are placing it right under or even with SGSII... not bad considering that phone comes stock with 1.5 GHz dual core.
1.2 you mean?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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I'm not running a OC kernel, but Faux's enhanced kernel @ 1 GHz. The main thing was getting rid of motoblur, and freeing up the ram. My benchmarks aren't as fast as the SGSII, but they aren't miles behind either.... not bad considering it's half a year older. I happen to like Nivida's technology too, but that's just a personal preference.
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ifalldownalot said:
here's the thing for me, though: you're installing custom kernels and doing this and that to a phone to get it to perform at max capability.
but, to me, that's slightly artificial considering that if you did the same to another phone, then that phone's benchmarks would also be increased, therefore not really providing any gain for the original device.
that's how I currently see it. is that... correct? or... am I not understanding something...?
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That's correct. Right now, though, the difference is negligible. So negligible that only benchmarks will show the real difference. Now, there's several games that will work only on the Tegra platform because the other CPUs don't have the same capabilities in the graphics department.... though it's not like everyone writes games based on these settings or even optimize other games for them.
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I just switched over to the atrix from the infuse.. I have it unlocked and rooted.. Wanting to oc but not fully understanding so I'm taking it slow lol.. But i was wondering. How does the power of the 'FIRST' dual core stack up to compared to todays dual core phones?? Is this still a good phone (Since I just got it) and will it continue to be a good phone?
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Ahem... Optimus 2X claims the first prize
Anyway I don't have an Atrix 4G, I have an Optimus 2x, same CPU. In my opinion the Tegra seems on-par with the Galaxy S2.
I'm not sure if there is a CM7 for the Atrix, but on my Optimus it is at least 2x faster than the stock rom, benchmarks reflect that too.
SunSpider is a benchmark which basically tests various web rendering tasks and gives a total score at the end
On MIUI / 1.5GHZ the Galaxy S2 scored 1600 or so. On 1GHZ, my Tegra 2 scores 1800! A lot of it appears to be down to software though, rather than raw performance, for reference, an iPhone 4 using Safari gets 4700, an Acer Liquid Metal Black which has some sort of 800MHZ snapdragon (I think?) CPU gets 3800.
The iPhone 3GS on iOS 4.1 got 16,000 or some stupid figure, well below 10,000 on iOS 5 though. In short, I guess what I'm saying is it's more down to your software setup than the hardware, obviously any phone is going to run like crap on a stock rom with 100,000 facebook and twitter apps.
Hello guys, i would like to know the truth, sgs2 vs ip4s in performances wise, ui, gpu and cpu.. Which is better? And which is closest to the future technology? My question is more to performance quality in every aspect as mentioned above.
Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone4S?
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You're asking this question in a bad place. Everyone here will simply say SGS2. Not just because it's better, but because we all love it . I'm pretty sure the SGS2 beats the iP4S in every aspect other than screen resolution. Not to mention that you are massively hindered by apple's OS on the iP4S...Unless you think SIRI is a good enough reason for you buy an entirely new phone of course...and I think I heard something about Carrier IQ being on most iPhones? I checked my SGS2 for it and it's clean... I'm using CRR v4.
Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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IP4s does not have a public jailbreak yet.
In term of hardware only!
Apple iPhone 4S
cpu Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX543MP2
Samsung Galaxy S II
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
SGS2 beat 4S in cpu (same cpu but SGS2 got higher clock)
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4S beat SGS2 in GPU cause PowerVR SGX543MP2 is more powerful than Mali-400MP
BTW,I'm SGS2 user
tEsT_MaStEr said:
In term of hardware only!
Apple iPhone 4S
cpu Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX543MP2
Samsung Galaxy S II
CPU Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9
GPU Mali-400MP
SGS2 beat 4S in cpu (same cpu but SGS2 got higher clock)
but
4S beat SGS2 in GPU cause PowerVR SGX543MP2 is more powerful than Mali-400MP
BTW,I'm SGS2 user
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
neobirdrio said:
Im not iphone user, i have 2 sgs2 in my hand, what im going to approach is about the performances since i heard so many things about iphone beat sgs2 in performance wise. My Sgs2 running at 1.8ghz oc, dual boot os, miui and cyanogenmod nightly. and i did several speed test with my friend's ip4s jailbroken, nothing can over my sgs2, but out there, many media said ip4s did better.. Is it just a hoax made by iphone's fan? Or if it is true, do tell me..
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do you actually need those people opinion? i dont care if other phone outperformance my phone, as long as i love it. i love android especially so any phone is ok as long as its not iphone. give me a quad core iphone and i'll sell it to buy a desktop pc! even dual core(4S) is more than enough actually.
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Doesn't matter, it still outperforms the GSII in most benchmarks. But, then again the GSII is 6 months old, and doesn't have ICS yet. I suspect that the GSII should be able to beat the iPhone 4S in most benchmarks, especially browser (Sunspider) tests. The iPhone 4S definitely has the most powerful GPU out of any mobile smartphone right now
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Actually its underclocked to 800mhz
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Sorry for my mistake. I forgot that they down clock it for battery life in iPhone but not in iPad.
Im reading all your opinions guys, dont get me wrong, im sgs2 user, i just wanna ask you guys for opinion, which i dont know about.
Thank you.
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Sorry for my mistake. I forgot that they down clock it for battery life in iPhone but not in iPad.
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So thats mean ip4s running at 800mhz.. On iOS5?
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Doesn't matter, it still outperforms the GSII in most benchmarks. But, then again the GSII is 6 months old, and doesn't have ICS yet. I suspect that the GSII should be able to beat the iPhone 4S in most benchmarks, especially browser (Sunspider) tests. The iPhone 4S definitely has the most powerful GPU out of any mobile smartphone right now
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A benchmark like Sunspider tests not only the phone's CPU but also the browser. So Apple's highly optimised Safari can still beat the SGS2 even with a slower CPU. You are benchmarking both the CPU and the browser together, and in the SGS2 the browser is not the speediest one out there. So eventhough it has a quicker CPU, the browser is holding it back in Sunspider.
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So thats mean ip4s running at 800mhz.. On iOS5?
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Yeah only because of ios optimization its fast. Other than that its nothing compared to sgs2.
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Yeah only because of ios optimization its fast. Other than that its nothing compared to sgs2.
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Lol, thanks, your answer made laugh.
"other than that its 'nothing' compared to sgs2"
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A benchmark like Sunspider tests not only the phone's CPU but also the browser. So Apple's highly optimised Safari can still beat the SGS2 even with a slower CPU. You are benchmarking both the CPU and the browser together, and in the SGS2 the browser is not the speediest one out there. So eventhough it has a quicker CPU, the browser is holding it back in Sunspider.
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Seems like you familiar with iphone, is there any other thing that (optimized or standard) that could beat sgs2?
Please describe, i would like to know.
Thanks for your response.
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http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-apple-a5-and-vs-samsung-exynos-4210/
All the information about the iphone4s A5 GPU being more powerful is hogwash. It's a dual core based GPU, while the GPU can support up to 4 cores and is at a higher clock speed.
From a hardware perspective the Galaxy S 2 is superior in every way.
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http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-apple-a5-and-vs-samsung-exynos-4210/
All the information about the iphone4s A5 GPU being more powerful is hogwash. It's a dual core based GPU, while the GPU can support up to 4 cores and is at a higher clock speed.
From a hardware perspective the Galaxy S 2 is superior in every way.
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I'm sure I can find some random website to validate whatever view you want it to. I chose to look at a site like anandtech that looks purely at the facts. The facts are pretty straightforward, the GPU in the A5 chip used by the i4S is currently the best available on any smartphone. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6
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neobirdrio said:
Seems like you familiar with iphone, is there any other thing that (optimized or standard) that could beat sgs2?
Please describe, i would like to know.
Thanks for your response.
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The apps for iOS are much better optimized for the iPhone than Android. iOS currently has no fragmentation to worry about so an app that works on the 3GS should work fine on the i4S. An app that works on my SGS2 probably won't work on my Sensation due to different screen resolutions. IMO apps for iOS are in general more polished when used with iOS.
The biggest difference between the SGS2 and i4S are AOSP and screen size. 4.3 inches looks gigantic compared to 3.5. Open source is always better than closed source IMO.
Both devices are excellent, just depends what you intend on using the device for.
Hmm i4s vs SGS2, i owned both, got an iphone FIRST because i know everyone loves it and everyone has it, so i went with the majority and i must say, woow thse iphone ppl are missing out on simplicity of use of andoid. I ****ING HATE the iphone for the following:
1. Bought a locked phone, had to buy a special sim to activate it. Y MAKE LIFE HARDER??
2. Pain in the ass to unlock it, used gevey. Y?
3. Cant use bluetooth to send data
4. Cant put a custom ringtone in a few easy steps
5. I dont need my phone to tell me what to do. I say: i want a new song. He says: stfu and connect me to itunes because there is NO other way you can do it.
6. Want to sync multiple folders w/pics, you cant. All pics have to be in the same destination.
7. Tiny screen, hate it.
8. Took a picture. Your options are: delete, and send. What happened to: details, crop, rotate left/right.
9. Connect to itunes only at home?? Wtf. (Or did they make it so you can connect to 5 PCs/MACs per phone now?) Even though, you could be at the 6th computer, and then what? You are screwed.
Conclusion: VERY limited capabilities. Maybe there are walk arounds to the things that piss me off, but when i buy a 600$ phone, i dont wanna be sitting for hours and googleing how to do this, and do that. Iphone has icloud imessage siri and all that ****, but honestly, id rather have open sourse over ALL OF THAT ANY DAY!!!
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I'm sure I can find some random website to validate whatever view you want it to. I chose to look at a site like anandtech that looks purely at the facts. The facts are pretty straightforward, the GPU in the A5 chip used by the i4S is currently the best available on any smartphone. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6
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Hmm great find, I'm surprised that the GPU on the 4S would be superior given the fact that Samsung manufactured the A5 chip. One would think that the A5 chip being a month older would be slightly inferior or equal.
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Deniska11 said:
Hmm i4s vs SGS2, i owned both, got an iphone FIRST because i know everyone loves it and everyone has it, so i went with the majority and i must say, woow thse iphone ppl are missing out on simplicity of use of andoid. I ****ING HATE the iphone for the following:
1. Bought a locked phone, had to buy a special sim to activate it. Y MAKE LIFE HARDER??
2. Pain in the ass to unlock it, used gevey. Y?
3. Cant use bluetooth to send data
4. Cant put a custom ringtone in a few easy steps
5. I dont need my phone to tell me what to do. I say: i want a new song. He says: stfu and connect me to itunes because there is NO other way you can do it.
6. Want to sync multiple folders w/pics, you cant. All pics have to be in the same destination.
7. Tiny screen, hate it.
8. Took a picture. Your options are: delete, and send. What happened to: details, crop, rotate left/right.
9. Connect to itunes only at home?? Wtf. (Or did they make it so you can connect to 5 PCs/MACs per phone now?) Even though, you could be at the 6th computer, and then what? You are screwed.
Conclusion: VERY limited capabilities. Maybe there are walk arounds to the things that piss me off, but when i buy a 600$ phone, i dont wanna be sitting for hours and googleing how to do this, and do that. Iphone has icloud imessage siri and all that ****, but honestly, id rather have open sourse over ALL OF THAT ANY DAY!!!
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I agree with this assessment, I played around with an iPhone and was surprised with its sending options when using SMS/MMS, Android has far more options. I don't have a GSII, I have the original Galaxy S, so I know that back when one did a side by side comparison with iphone 4 and Galaxy S, the Galaxy S beat it in every department except screen resolution. I thought that the trend would continue.
neobirdrio said:
Hello guys, i would like to know the truth, sgs2 vs ip4s in performances wise, ui, gpu and cpu.. Which is better? And which is closest to the future technology? My question is more to performance quality in every aspect as mentioned above.
Samsung Galaxy S2 or iPhone4S?
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Hi there.
Today I will swap my SGS2 for an IP4S. Why? Here I say, in order of importance:
1) iPhone camera is better.
2) better or equivalent benchmarks altough SGS2 has better hardware specs (this link elucidates everything http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/apple-iphone-4s-review-att-verizon/6)
3) 4.3 screen is too big for my hands and the iPhone screen has better resolution+pixel density.
4) better OS design (I don't care about the flexibility of ROM customisation, and the stock aspect from Samsung really sucks, even with another launcher and also other roms)
5) The aluminium/glass handles better the processor overheat than the plastic body from our SGS2.
I am aware the iPhone has also negative aspects compared to SGS2, but the most important aspects (for me) are covered above.
Well when I got this phone I saw I could use a bluetooth gamepad with it and I was like oh **** hdmi out +emulator +bluetooth gamepad = me happy haha
Unfortunately that is not the case and I was hoping someone could help. Just on the phone emulators and everything else works flawlessly. When I use hdmi out the performance drops to unplayable.
Emulators (even snesoid...) are way too choppy to even play. Shadowgun and reckless getaway are also choppy but kind of 'playable.' There is noticeable lag so it feels like playing in quicksand.
I get the phone is processing two displays but come on even snesoid is unplayable? So here is my question(s):
Can I force the phone to only display the hdmi output, thereby increasing performance? As I understand it this is not possible but just have to ask.
Can I reduce the resolution of the output and maybe make gains there?
If I root and overclock, could I achieve smooth results? And if yes, what speed would be good to try for stability/performance?
Thanks for your time.
Cmon not one reply? This is xda-dev! This isn't that technical of a question I'm shocked not a single person can help...especially with 80+ views...Any help is appreciated.
Im yet to try out my new mhl adapter on any rom but RezRom 1.2 since i dont seem to find the time to. But will post here when i do. Om gonna try the stock newly leaked ruu.
On Rezrom btw, my phone freezes for a bit then reboots whenver i run a video for some reason.
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You have to remember that when you mirror displays, your phone is having to draw twice the pixels. So yes, that's going to cause serious lag, especially on a game, even if It's just a SNES emulator.
Overclocking will likely help some, but if there's anyway to turn off your phone display, that would be your best option. I don't have an MHL adapter to help, but hopefully I've at least explained the problem.
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Indeed, the main culprit is having to push both displays. For some reason, I have not found a way to disable the phone screen without turning off the hdmi out. Basically when you put the phone screen to sleep it seems to cut off the hdmi out...
Because the phone performs so well while only using it's own display, can anyone shed some light on how to have hdmi out going and disable the phone screen? I think this would result in smooth hdmi out performance.
I would think if it was able to mirror, it would be able to simply use one or the other. I really want to figure this out
I would think rooting and some ICS would help, since GB is not really using both cores, correct? Overclocking may help, but may make you phone melt if its pushing super hard.
Well actually I'm running the ICS leak now...605.22 or whatever is the end of the version number. It's pretty and runs smoothly. Was there an aspect of ICS you think would help because as far as games go I see no difference between GB and ICS.
What about rooting do you think would help me?
And also, what speeds would be safe to try overclocking?
For safe clock speeds, use something like SetCPU. Start slowly bumping up the clock speed, using it for a bit, and if it's stable, repeat. If it reboots or becomes unstable, lower the clock speed.
Most importantly, don't set the clock speed on boot until you find a stable speed, or you might end up in a boot loop.
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Thanks for the overclocking advice. Have you tried OCing the rezound? What kind of speed and performance increase have you seen?
Other than OCing I think my best option would be to find a way to turn off the phone display while running hdmi. If this is just simply not supported, could something be modified and added into a rom that allows hdmi out without the phone display?
You may try contacting TeamWin. I know they really helped the Evo4g with mirroring. Now that we have s-off they may be able to help.
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Thanks, I've contacted them just now so we'll see what they say.
Has anyone tried any of the oc kernels?
Can anyone comment on how smooth hdmi out performance is with these overclocks applied? The threads have a lot of comments but none deal with that specifically.
What ROM are you running? Did you get the bluetooth gamepad to work properly? I've read that HTC used a different bluetooth stack that doesnt work with gamepads. What gamepad did you use? Thanks.
I'm using the leaked release candidate of ICS for rezound ending in 605.22 I think. The bluetooth gamepad does work. It's a phonejoy. All it does is press keys on a virutal keyboard through bluezIME because even on ICS although gamepads are 'supported' I have yet to see anything besides N64oid actually use a GAMEPAD, not just 'xperia play' style it and use keyboard inputs.
Anyway bluetooth has multiple protocols and the one the PS3 and some other devices use is apparently not supported by HTC (i have not confirmed this) but phonejoy, and your standard bluetooth earpieces etc use a protocol that is widely supported by phones.
Now how about those oc kernels? Anyone try their hdmi out with them and see if it performs any smoother?
twolasrnames said:
I would think rooting and some ICS would help, since GB is not really using both cores, correct? Overclocking may help, but may make you phone melt if its pushing super hard.
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Wait... What!!?? Can someone confirm that ics does in fact use both cores? Otherwise... ****, and thank you poster for bringing this to my attention..
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AJMetal87 said:
Wait... What!!?? Can someone confirm that ics does in fact use both cores? Otherwise... ****, and thank you poster for bringing this to my attention..
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One of ICS main points in its changelog is the improved optimization of all the CPU cores.
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Abu-7abash said:
One of ICS main points in its changelog is the improved optimization of all the CPU cores.
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So... It uses both cores? Or...
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AJMetal87 said:
So... It uses both cores? Or...
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Yes. The ICS framework itself supports multiple cores. HTC used extra code, including the mpdecision file on GB to regulate when to use the second core, which can be hit or miss. ICS should yield better efficiency and performance when it comes to handling the CPU. (Real world use usually shows the more lightweight GB GUI to be snappier, but the phone is plenty powerful enough to run ICS smooth when all wrinkles are ironed out, and when devs get some more code too, i.e. kernel source.)
Ok, back to my thread question haha....
Has anyone tried HDMI out with any of the OC kernels for the rezound? Does it perform better than stock hdmi out?