I want to know why does it happened to some Tabs that they have unlock padlock icon on the boot screen. Does it mean the tab was sold to someone and he unlocked it and returned the tab where is bought from and samsung repacked and ship it back to store? Or is it a I/O version and they just changed the back casing? I have unlock padlock icon and i am curios is it a returned item and samsung repacked it?
tabing said:
I want to know why does it happened to some Tabs that they have unlock padlock icon on the boot screen. Does it mean the tab was sold to someone and he unlocked it and returned the tab where is bought from and samsung repacked and ship it back to store? Or is it a I/O version and they just changed the back casing? I have unlock padlock icon and i am curios is it a returned item and samsung repacked it?
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they are being sold with unlocked bootloaders, or alteast some are. the ones form the 8th in nyc were all locked where these are what I am seeing mostly all unlocked
Yep, Just got one from Best Buy last week and its got the unlocked padlock when it boots.
Bought one a week ago from amazon that was locked. It sucked and was broken anyway so they replaced it. Now I got a unlocked one that's works hreat so far. I must say though. Even after 1.4ghz overclock my evo still scrolls smoother lol. Both devices seem laggy as hell
"hold on to your dookie, its about to get spooky"
Best buy units all seem unlocked.
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Best buy units all seem unlocked.
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Not true...
Mine is locked and I bought it two weeks ago from bestbuy.
So it's random ... Weird.
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So it's random ... Weird.
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Yes it is... Mine was locked too from bestbuy.
I have 2 16GB one white, the other grey both bought at Best Buys (two different Best Buys) both locked.
Personally, if you're within your return period, I'd return the unit as defective.
If people who are paying the same price as you from the same vendor and getting an unlocked device, you should be too. A locked bootloader should be considered a defect when quite a few units from the exact same retailer are unlocked.
But for real, where's the disadvantages about a locked bootloader if you're able to install CWM recovery? - You can install a new kernen/rom, so everything is fine with a locked device. I just don't get it.
Draygon said:
But for real, where's the disadvantages about a locked bootloader if you're able to install CWM recovery? - You can install a new kernen/rom, so everything is fine with a locked device. I just don't get it.
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More likely to accidentally brick for one.
And it's also "speaking with your wallet" - If you just lie down and take it, Samsung will be more likely to lock bootloaders in future devices.
I'd like to see that conversation take place...
"I'm returning this. It's defective."
"Oh, I'm sorry. What is wrong with it?"
"The bootloader is locked. I want one with an unlocked bootloader."
"The what? I don't know what that means... Let me get my manager"
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Just curious because support is telling me that my Prime is "jail broken". not sure what they mean by this since it's not an iPhone. did they mean rooted or bootloader unlocked? I don't recall unlocking the bootloader ever for this but I'm at work now and won't be able to check til later tonight. I was just wondering if there is a site I can go to to check the status.
I just checked and my Prime is not even unlocked, as far as I can see. Not sure if this how you would check but I restarted it and held the Volume down while rebooting. I read the info that appeared at the top and nothing said unlocked. Now I'm wondering how does Asus know my tablet is rooted (if that is what he meant by jail broken)? I have never called them and never sent them my tablet. I think Asus will definitely be getting a customer is angry call tomorrow.
Did you buy it new, used?
It is possible if you bought one from someplace that someone returned it after they unlocked it and you just happened to get it.
I guess even new, someone could have opened it, but told the store they didn't.
Hope you get it straightened out, as it will affect your warranty.
Good Luck.
Talking to them now. I bought my Prime brand new from Gamestop. I was the first one to pre-order at the store and the first one to pick it up. It was sealed when I got it. Asus is saying that i sent it in. I have never sent my tablet to them. I asked him when it was sent in and he says that information has been deleted. I told him I need to know the dates it was sent in and when it was returned because it has never left my possesion. They have me on hold right now
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Talking to them now. I bought my Prime brand new from Gamestop. I was the first one to pre-order at the store and the first one to pick it up. It was sealed when I got it. Asus is saying that i sent it in. I have never sent my tablet to them. I asked him when it was sent in and he says that information has been deleted. I told him I need to know the dates it was sent in and when it was returned because it has never left my possesion. They have me on hold right now
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If you had unlocked it yourself you would definitely know it. So if there were no previous owners and it was in a sealed box when you got it, I don't see any way it could be unlocked without your knowledge.
I have not unlocked myself (just rooted with stock boot loader and ROM) so I have not seen this personally. But according to what I've read here on XDA there is a "this device is unlocked" message that appears somewhere during boot if the device is unlocked. Do you get such a message?
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586634&highlight=undo+unlock Which is someone talking about wanting to lock it again, which apparently can't be done. But it does describe what an unlocked device looks like.
You will not believe this!!! Asus says that they know that my tablet has been rooted because the information was sent to them (or retrieved by them) by the devicetracker.asus.com site. He said not only is it used to find stolen product, but it can be used to retrieve system information sent by the tablet, like when it is rooted. We finally figured out that what was sent back to them was my power brick in March because it stopped charging the tablet. Now I need to know what information Asus can see off that Device tracker site because it has never worked for me when I put my SN in.
Found this post and it looks like I activated the service sometime ago but it doesn't seem to work for me now. I can't see any information on my tablet. So it seems that they can track whether your rooted and it does void your warranty, unless I can find some documentation that states rooting your tablet doesn't void the warranty.
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If you had unlocked it yourself you would definitely know it. So if there were no previous owners and it was in a sealed box when you got it, I don't see any way it could be unlocked without your knowledge.
I have not unlocked myself (just rooted with stock boot loader and ROM) so I have not seen this personally. But according to what I've read here on XDA there is a "this device is unlocked" message that appears somewhere during boot if the device is unlocked. Do you get such a message?
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586634&highlight=undo+unlock Which is someone talking about wanting to lock it again, which apparently can't be done. But it does describe what an unlocked device looks like.
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Nope not unlocked. Checked last night, no message that it was unlocked. I purposely didn't unlock it because I had plans to send it in to them to get one of the newer ones (latest serial numbers).
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Nope not unlocked. Checked last night, no message that it was unlocked. I purposely didn't unlock it because I had plans to send it in to them to get one of the newer ones (latest serial numbers).
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Interesting they know (going from your previous post) that you are rooted. Anyway, it's my understanding the rooting does not void the warranty. Only unlocking does. So being rooted and Asus being able to detect root status should not make any difference.
I just followed the link you posted and tried to go to http://waveshare.asus.com/select_lang.action . For the user id and password I tried using the same information I use for the Asus VIP site ( http://vip.asus.com/user/uhome.aspx?SLanguage=en-us ) It got me to the screen where you accept the agreement but then keeps kicking me back to the login screen. Is this a different account I have to register for?
From reading around, it seems to only work when you sign in with your google account, but be careful. In the agreement that pops up, it says something about linking your goggle account with the serial number of the tablet. I just wonder what benefit Asus gets from doing that? Does it allow them to query more info from the tablet?
So far I'm liking my HOX+ (AT&T), but want to unlock/root to get the full experience, backup with Titanium, delve into Tasker and BatteryXL, etc. However, I'm a relative newbie at this and need some help.
I understand you have to unlock the bootloader first, but so far the only way I've seen is through HTC Dev. Is that correct? And will that void my warranty? Or is it reversible in case I need to bring the phone back in for maintenance?
Or, will it not matter, because if I bring it in the AT&T Store staff won't bother to check? I did swap out my phone for a non-defective one on Tuesday and the dude didn't even turn it on or glance at it, just grabbed me a new one with a new SIM, so this may not matter. But before I go on I just wanted some reassurance that I can reverse this if need be.
Thanks in advance!
Technically, yes it does void your warranty. That said, I bought a One X in September, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it in October. Then when the X+ came out, I relocked the bootloader and flashed the RUU to return the device to stock, took it back to the AT&T store and got my X+.
If for some reason you ran into a super-anal AT&T employee, yes they could still check to see if it had been previously unlocked and the phone would show this evidence if they look at the bootloader. Highly, HIGHLY unlikely if you ask me though.
Thanks!
I'll look into rooting if I can figure out how! Anyone know how to do this on Mac?
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Technically, yes it does void your warranty. That said, I bought a One X in September, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it in October. Then when the X+ came out, I relocked the bootloader and flashed the RUU to return the device to stock, took it back to the AT&T store and got my X+.
If for some reason you ran into a super-anal AT&T employee, yes they could still check to see if it had been previously unlocked and the phone would show this evidence if they look at the bootloader. Highly, HIGHLY unlikely if you ask me though.
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Exactly how you get around it! To be honest a few times i returned phones with only flashing the factory rom, left the phone unlocked and all, lol! I doubt the companies really look into it to see if you messed with it. Haven't heard 1 person returned a phone and getting denied because of root, unlocked bootloader, etc. I could be wrong but never heard of it myself...
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Technically, yes it does void your warranty. That said, I bought a One X in September, unlocked the bootloader and rooted it in October. Then when the X+ came out, I relocked the bootloader and flashed the RUU to return the device to stock, took it back to the AT&T store and got my X+.
If for some reason you ran into a super-anal AT&T employee, yes they could still check to see if it had been previously unlocked and the phone would show this evidence if they look at the bootloader. Highly, HIGHLY unlikely if you ask me though.
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Rooting and unlocking alone only voids your warranty if you have a custom rom on your phone that caused the issue you had that broke it. I got that straight from a store managers mouth.
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As we all know, this beast is about to hit the streets Friday, but said beast is going to be locked by AT&T.
How hard/easy will it be to SuperCID & unlock the bootloader?
If the bootloader is unlocked will I be able to flash ROMs,Kernels,Radios, or is S-off needed?
I had heard it was unlockable on HTCdev still, has this changed?
http://phandroid.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-bootloader/
they may of course change it, sigh.
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I had heard it was unlockable on HTCdev still, has this changed?
http://phandroid.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-bootloader/
they may of course change it, sigh.
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Yeah reports from HTC said they will be disabling HTCDev for this device. Get 'em while you can!
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Yeah reports from HTC said they will be disabling HTCDev for this device. Get 'em while you can!
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Here's hoping they don't have it done by the 19th when I get mine =*/
On a side note can anyone help me with a source on this? All I can find is that engadget article that doesn't list any sources for it.
>no but we asked ATT they said kk?
Not that I don't believe them, but an official statement from either company would be nice.
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On a side note can anyone help me with a source on this? All I can find is that engadget article that doesn't list any sources for it.
>no but we asked ATT they said kk?
Not that I don't believe them, but an official statement from either company would be nice.
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Or it's a ploy by HTC to temporarily drive sales of their developer edition, for which I'm sure they make more on per unit than they do with AT&T.
/tinfoil
i'd be interested to know if you can re-lock the bootloader without it displaying "TAMPERED" at the top of FASTBOOT screen. you know, just in case i unlock on 4/18 but want to relock on Friday, 4/19 to get a Black one if available.
When you relock the boot loader its going to say relocked. I've never had someone at the store boot to the boot loader to look at it when doing a return
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i'd be interested to know if you can re-lock the bootloader without it displaying "TAMPERED" at the top of FASTBOOT screen. you know, just in case i unlock on 4/18 but want to relock on Friday, 4/19 to get a Black one if available.
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if s-off is archived we will be able to. Until then we have to live with it. Most likely they wont check.
Never had a store salesperson boot to bootloader mode in the store, but there's always a first time.
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Does anyone know if tmobile will warranty replace a unlocked device?
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Does anyone know if tmobile will warranty replace a unlocked device?
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It appears to vary based on the store and who you happen to interface with.
The safest way is to do an S-Off, remove the tampered notice, modify the splash screen, and then lock it. But that is a lot of steps, some of them a bit risky if done wrong.
Unlocked as in carrier? If you bought it from tmo, then it should still be covered unless you did something else to void the warranty.If you mean bootloader, then that voids the warranty so you're probably gonna get hit with a fee, maybe on the back end.
FWIW, I had no trouble getting my last One replaced for a stuck pixel despite bootloader unlock. I took it to a store and had the rep there initiate the exchange, though I still had to receive the replacement in the mail since I bought it online. Before sending it in I just nandroided back to stock and flashed stock recovery and that was it. I was worried for a while that they would hit me with some extra fee because of my unlocked bootloader, but it's been over a month and nothing.
I'm guessing since I had a super-obvious hardware problem (stuck pixel) nobody bothered to do a thorough check., but getting S-OFF and fixing everything to look locked is probably safer.
I am thinking about giving up the Samsung world for the M8. But I want to know if I root and unlock the bootloader will ATT know if I decide to return? In the Samsung world if you trip Knox att won't take it back.
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I am thinking about giving up the Samsung world for the M8. But I want to know if I root and unlock the bootloader will ATT know if I decide to return? In the Samsung world if you trip Knox att won't take it back.
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You can just do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710503
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You can just do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710503
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So I am a little HTC stupid. Does this just remove the text?
I sure wish the HTC had wireless charging that is the one BIG thing I will miss.
I came from the S3 so I feel your growing pains. Yes it removes the red text that appears on your unlocked bootscreen but if you scroll down to FAUX LOCKED HBOOT you can make it look like its S-ON and locked. This will make your phone look like it's unmodified. I had to return mine because my screen was unresponsive. They didn't even have me turn it on, they just exchanged it without question.
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I am thinking about giving up the Samsung world for the M8. But I want to know if I root and unlock the bootloader will ATT know if I decide to return? In the Samsung world if you trip Knox att won't take it back.
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Faux hboot would work with at&t but not if your sending it to HTC. You can put everything back to stock except s-on. There is a command, but I don't think anyone has the balls to try it including me but you can lock the boot loader without it saying relocked as long as you are soff. just remember DONT use faux hboot and relock boot loader.