Alright so... currently I have the evo shift. I was considering buy the evo 3D
I can upgrade at anytime.
Should I wait for the Samsung Galaxy s II?
Wait for a icecream sammich device?
Or is the evo 3D worth the purchase?
3D doesn't really matter to me.
Thanks
Tbh I'd wait for the Evo 3D to be unlocked (either by devs, or HTC).
If SGSII comes out before then, go for that.
Nexus Prime (release November/December?) will be the first Ice Cream Sandwich phone (atleast rumored to be).
Keep your shift.....Send me the $200 you would have spent....and forget you ever started this thread...LOL
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Tbh I'd wait for the Evo 3D to be unlocked (either by devs, or HTC).
If SGSII comes out before then, go for that.
Nexus Prime (release November/December?) will be the first Ice Cream Sandwich phone (atleast rumored to be).
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That's probably what I will do... if within 30 days of the evo3D release date the boot loader is not unlocked...then dev support will, more than likely, drop significantly ...
Then go with sgsII
Isn't the SGS2 going to have an encrypted bootloader as well? And unless I am mistaken Samsung has never committed to unlocking their bootloaders so I am not sure why the SGS2 is the way to go.
i don't see a lot of devs leaving. With Teamwin getting temp root and working on full root there is at least a glimmer of hope that we will have full root within the month without HTC. It would be different if there was nothing and we were just waiting for HTC.
Then there is the problem that no one really knows if the SGS2 is coming to Sprint. We think it is but even then we don't have a date for release. I would get this phone now and enjoy it rather than keep waiting for the next best thing. There is a good chance that if you wait for the SGS2, about the time it releases there will be a lot of talk about the new Nexus which will make you want to wait for that.
I would wait for the Nexus-Prime.
I went from the EVO 4G to my new EVO-3D, and yes the EVO-3D is a much faster, smoother phone, way better battery life, higher resolution looks great, and overall it is a better phone. But it is not night and day better. It still feels like an EVO or Android 2.3 phone, after having it almost two weeks now, the coolness is wearing off, and it jut seems like a nice phone, but I am not blown away by it.
I would think the Nexus-Prime would be a super bad ass phone, one of a kind specialty device. The rumors point to it being a Super-smartphone, and will compete against the iPhone5 this Fall.
Don't buy an EVO 3D until it is unlocked.
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Now that people have the phone in their hands, is it worth it to upgrade to the Evo 3D. Since there are rumors of the SGS2 (within) coming to sprint on the 24th of july, would people recommend waiting or just get the 3D now and calling it good?
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HTC=LEGENDARY
SAMSUNG=NO COMMENT
I love my evo 3D its godlike, 3D is actually bad ass, I thought it was going to be annoying/gimmicky lol.
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Honestly you could second guess yourself to death.....There's always going to be the next great phone that's just around the corner. I got my 3vo and I love it, plus personally I'd never by another Samsung phone in my life.....but that's my opinion. If you look at the phone, try it, like it, and can see yourself using it for 22 months go for it, if not wait for the next one.
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Honestly you could second guess yourself to death.....There's always going to be the next great phone that's just around the corner. I got my 3vo and I love it, plus personally I'd never by another Samsung phone in my life.....but that's my opinion. If you look at the phone, try it, like it, and can see yourself using it for 22 months go for it, if not wait for the next one.
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So you think samsung will be as bad with updates as they were with the previous galaxy phones? I had an epic but i returned it because of the screen wobble and froyo never coming
I guess the real question is will anything coming in the next month be honestly significantly faster than the EVO 3D? If not, then why wait
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Now that people have the phone in their hands, is it worth it to upgrade to the Evo 3D. Since there are rumors of the SGS2 (within) coming to sprint on the 24th of july, would people recommend waiting or just get the 3D now and calling it good?
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My personal opinion is get the Evo. Even if the SGS2 comes out in July, you can always swap. Also, most any phone thats going to come out in the group is going to perform more than adequately. I like the look and feel of the Evo 3d, and HTC has a history of dev support.
I don't know....maybe they turned over a new leaf, but in the past I've had too many problems with Samsung to give them another chance. I had my HTC HeroC for the last 16 months and it has been a wonderfull phone...now my son has it. Good quality, lots of potential, durable.....but hey these are just my own opinions. Go have a look for yourself, if you like it get it. It's a pretty safe bet that in the next month Sprint's not going to put out anything that's going to exceed this phones capabilities.
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I don't know....maybe they turned over a new leaf, but in the past I've had too many problems with Samsung to give them another chance. I had my HTC HeroC for the last 16 months and it has been a wonderfull phone...now my son has it. Good quality, lots of potential, durable.....but hey these are just my own opinions. Go have a look for yourself, if you like it get it. It's a pretty safe bet that in the next month Sprint's not going to put out anything that's going to exceed this phones capabilities.
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The problem is that Samsung's international support is better than for their US products. Whether this is squarely on Samsung's shoulders is up for debate. They at least appear to be trying to appeal to the mod scene and with more than just words. I like their AMOLED screen, but I like the high res of the Evo 3d. They both look like great phones, but the Evo 3d got here first.
I guess I'll just go for it. It does look like there are some issues, but of course you always hear more from the people with problems than those who are content. Plus HTC looks like it has been receptive to fixing problems.
Buy the E3D and if you don't like it you have 30 days to exchange it.
You do realize that Samsung has provided the CyanogenMod team with SGS2's? That means that Cyanogen will most likely use that phone as the base for his ROM.
Samsung is loosening up their hold on their phones and the specs on the SGS2 phone are sick. I'm holding off for that phone instead because I won't use 3D as I already get migraines.
I'll wait for the next best thing.
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I'll wait for the next best thing.
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And always be waiting? If sprint came and said officially the within was coming on july 24th, and samsung would give better updates than it did with the epic. I would wait. But is the galaxy s 2 (within) going to be significantly better than the 3D?
Hey guys,
I'm deciding between the 3VO and the sg2. I've looked up comparisons of the two and it seems that the hardware is better on sg2 and software is better on 3vo. I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
So convince me why I should get the 3vo, I really don't know! I saw that the sg2 is like $700-$800 no contract in the UK, if true. Ill get the 3vo. Do you guys think it really costs that much?
i made a mistake and bought a samsung phone, that will never happen again. its nice to have working gps on my evo 3d.
Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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Hey guys,
I'm thinking that the 3vo would probably get better devolopment tho.
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That depends on a number of factors, time being the most important. If our mighty developers crack the phone and/or HTC unlocks it in the 30 day return window (starting on the 24th of June) then there is nothing to worry about and I absolutely assure you that the best and most development will be going on here on the E3D scene...
...once we hit that 30 day window the amount of developer interest is going to sink quickly, not to mention the untold thousands of E3D handsets from twitchy users (like myself) who can't stand the thought of having a locked phone or a phone that is unlocked late in the game with a lame-duck dev community.
Samsung has been sending out SGS2's to developers....and it doesn't have an encryption-signed bootloader.
Search for the thread "hey check out how powerful the EVO 3d is" (something like that) and you will see that hardware is not really superior either way. You could argue it either way and still not be correct.
The above, combined with the reputation of both should make HTC an easy choice....at least in my opinion.
Plus you are right, the software and development side of the 3vo should be a lot better.
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I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
jkinnison90 said:
Development wise the EVO 3D will be better I'm sure. There's a lot of great developers on this phone right now and will be more coming
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If the developers are unable to crack the bootloader and HTC does not release the unlocked bootloader, then there will be almost 0 development on our phone.
kn1ghts said:
I was in the same boat as you. I wanted to wait for the S2 to come out and compare but since my phone crapped out, I went with the 3D. Do we have a confirm release date for the S2 on Sprint yet?
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No. There hasn't even been an official statement indicating that it is coming to Sprint. Last year I believe the phones arrival to Sprint was announced in mid-late July. Then, in early August the late August release date was announced. Looks like we may be seeing the same trend. Sadly, if the E3D is not unlocked soon, I may be getting an SGS2 as well though vastly prefer HTC's products over Samsung's.
If the SGS2 came out the same time I probably wouldve picked it over the 3d. In almost all reviews I've read that SGS2 is fast and unable to be slowed down. Tegra 2 games also will play once you root it and install chainfire. Look at this lengthy review below and I recommend watching some of the video comparisons with some other phones. If theres no full root on the 3d and as long as there's an official announcement of the SGS2 (regardless if its coming july or august)within 30 days that I've had my 3d then mines probably also going back.
http://samsunggalaxysforums.com/sho...l-done-now-links-inside-for-anyone-interested...
July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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July 24th is the highly anticipated yet unofficial release date.
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That's just way too easy....
...though if Samsung had anything to do with it it was a brilliant maneuver.
If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but that may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
(Unless HTC fails to unlock their bootloader, in that case I'd swallow my pride and move to an S2)
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If the phone came out tomorrow I would say the GSII. Development on the 3D is dead in the water & looks to stay that way unless HTC decides to unlock the bootloader & nand. Pound for pound the GSII looks to be the better phone hardwise if your read all of the reviews. But history tells us that Samsung is notorious for not supporting their devices & the dev community seems to like HTC products better but may change with the 3D/Sensation debacle that is unfolding & Samsung seems to be catching on with support. Hard one to call right now. I'm gonna upgrade my Epic to the GSII or Prime if they come to Sprint but if this bootloader/nand situation doesn't get straightend out before 30 days the 3D is going back & I'll just have the OG Evo & GSII/Prime.
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I'm with you man... I just took a peek into the GSII forum and, um, yeah, I think my mind is made up. Most of that would be good for us with minimal tweaking I'd imagine...
Way to go HTC.
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I had Verizon's version of the Galaxy S 1 and it was a huge disappointment. Not because of the hardware... the hardware as awesome which is why I bought it... but because of Samsung bloat, touchwiz and having to wait 6+ months for the 2.2 update to roll out. I wouldn't touch a Galaxy S 2 until Samsung shows they're able to support a phone for more than a month.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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who cares about mfgr support? If the hardware is good and the is a dev community...well...I'm in. GS2 already has most of CM7 ready....CDMA version would likely require a little tweaking, but, likely not much.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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Mfgr support goes a long way, especially when major updates are concerned. Take the Epic for example. Before the official Froyo update we had a few leaks & ROMS built off those leaks but none of them (and I tried them all) came without a major bug or flaw. It's always better to base a ROM off of a official update rather than a leaked one.
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There were no pure AOSP offerings? I am obviously not familiar at all with the landscape on the Samsung side of things--I ditched my moment for my EVO4G and haven't looked back....But I'd imagine that as long as they release their kernel source there would be a handful of pure AOSP roms, at the least....I see CM7 is almost together for the GS2, I'd imagine there would be the usual collection of CM based roms at the very least. I also see MIUI is being maintained for the GS2 already...
...just supply the kernel source and update the radios as needed. I'm well familiar with Samsung's desire to never update anything past release.
SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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SGSII is awesome, I watched a hands on video of it last night, made me excited. LOL
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Made me excited too till I read the forums if people who have it......lots of issues it seems.
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It's looking like the sgs2 for me as well. Quality on the evo 3d just doesn't seem to be there
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I just wanted to gauge the general feeling amongst those of us who have a Rogers or GSM Evo 3D. Are you guys satisfied with your devices?
I think we can all agree that one of the greatest advantages Android has over iOS is the ability to root and install custom ROMS on your phone. It really keeps your phone fresh and extends the lifespan of the device.
However as well all know, development for the GSM Evo has been lackluster to say the least. It isn't the developer's fault (the few that are active like Leedroid have been great) but they can't do much without those missing Shooter U files.. Another question I want to ask is, how likely is it that HTC will actually release these files? It's been almost 2 months since the phone has been released and still there's been no indication of any release.
The Evo 3D has great hardware, but what good is it without software that's equally good? I would almost rather use my Nexus, which can at least run MIUI and CM7. While I would have no problem patiently waiting for a ROM if it's development was in progress, but there's no point of waiting hopelessly when the development isn't even possible.
Right now I'm contemplating selling my device just because it's resale value is still high and because there's been no indication that the development situation will get any better. I'm wondering how you guys are feeling about this? Are you guys more optimistic than I am?
And just so there's no misunderstanding here, the point of this post wasn't to bash the Evo itself. But if this is going to be the phone I use for the next year and a half, I want it to be future proof. I want it to be able to run MIUI, CM7, CM8 when it comes out, and so on.
Great device so far!
I've had the EVO 3D for about 3 weeks now and so far I'm loving it! Coming from the Magic/Sapphire device, Android feels like a completely new experience. I'm still running stock and have not rooted and unlocked the device itself but will be once more stable roms are available. I have faith that dev will pick up in the next month or so after Rogers releases the Samsung S2 for LTE and starts to discount the 3 year purchase price for the EVO 3D making it even more attractive to more consumers. HTC has also been playing nice (for the most part) with the dev community that they'll be releasing the files that our devs need shortly.
So no worries, it'll happen!
In any event, back to playing with my EVO 3D!
Don't really care if HTC release it or not. The phone is awesome as it is!
I've rooted my Evo3D to get Titanium, but Im running stock, and couldn't be more pleased, and dont have any plans to put another ROM on.
The only thing Ive noticed that does make me wonder a little, is that my Evo seems to have lower benchmark scores than you usually get from this phone. Dont know if its something that Rogers have done, or a fluke or what it is. But it seems fast enough, and we all know that benchmarks are often meaningless...
I've had the Captivate and the Arc before. The first thing I wanted to do with those phones was to flash a Custom ROM so the performance would actually be decent. With the EVO, I honestly don't really care(at least, for now). I really like it, everything is smooth and fast. MUCH better than the arc. Awful awful phone.
I'm really satisfied with the build quality. It feels like a tank. Without a doubt the best phone I've ever had.
I've been using LeeDrOiD on my E3D for over a week and I find it quite smooth, but even my wife's stock Evo 3D runs very well. Yes, I'd like to see development for the GSM take off, and I think that'll happen once HTC releases the fixed kernel sources (which I reminded them about not 30 minutes ago on their Facebook page), but I'm very happy with this phone.
You guys have made me feel better about my phone lol!
So I heard us EVO 3D users have some way of upgrading to a EVO 4G LTE? I bought my 3VO in December of 2011, so I was wondering if somehow I could do this. I've heard talk about this all over. Like some HTC thing or Sprint thing. idk. Point is, is it possible?
-cburk
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Umm, you can buy it for full price. The only other way to get your upgrade date moved up is if you call sprint and the rep is feeling VERY nice, but I can guarantee you there is a 1% chance that will happen.
yeah you gotta wait 22months for your 150 dollar and 2 year price upgrade. thats about it. however the 3d is going to get ICS soon and function wise the evo 4glte isnt that great... this phone still has alot of untapped potental. my advise, wait there will be something better then than that. dont waste your money
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yeah you gotta wait 22months for your 150 dollar and 2 year price upgrade. thats about it. however the 3d is going to get ICS soon and function wise the evo 4glte isnt that great... this phone still has alot of untapped potental. my advise, wait there will be something better then than that. dont waste your money
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The phone specs seem nice like the cam is the only thing I liked lol. The battery part I am not fond of ..
im with reaper. the battery has longevity issues
Thread says it all, with chad.goodman gone, development will like almost completely die here... SO to avoid ANOTHER one of my threads being deleted by a mod because it has chad's name in it, what phone do you all recommend.
NOTE TO MODS: This is simply Q&A about my upgrading to a different phone, we won't turn this into some "Save chad.goodman" thread, I just want input, please dont delete this people!
I am open to all suggestions of phones (android of course) but it needs to have a good screen, camera, good developer support, 1 GHz+ processor, etc. Basically, it needs to equate to/beat the specs of our once beloved 3vo!
Thanks in advance for suggestions
As a person that just upgraded like 2 days ago to the EVO 3D from the EVO 4G, I would say maybe wait a month or 2 until the next wave of EVOs are released. That or any of the Nexus phones.
There are a lot of awesome devs working on the 3d still so I plan to keep mine until next year. I'm avoiding the coming evo because of the non removable battery and no lte coverage (I currently have wimax at work and don't want to lose that while I wait for lte.). Maybe next year, lte will come to my area and make next year's evo worth the upgrade for me.
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Preorder the EVO 4G LTE! That phone seems amazing (1.5 GHz), or wait for whatever new phones Sprint will carry next.