I read here in the general section about a month ago that the atrix has a disabled fm transmitter. If this is the case can we activate it?
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First, wrong section. Should be put in Q&A.
Second, Faux had a post about this a little while ago. He said that he wouldn't bother trying to activate it until he got ahold of a manual for the Atrix. The reason for this was that in the G2X, the FM transmitter was actually completely disconnected, and made so that it wouldn't work no matter what. And Faux at least said that he wouldn't work on it until he knew if it was disconnected or not.
May I include my opinion here, that Q&A should be renamed Q&A&R? R for requests. It's not intuitive that requests for devs go there instead of here (despite the fact I already knew they SHOULD. its still not obvious to people, and I dont blame them
not to completely derail this but I think the better option would be to add a development request subsection, to all of the forums not just the atrix one.
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not to completely derail this but I think the better option would be to add a development request subsection, to all of the forums not just the atrix one.
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Agreed
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Actually I have posted twice in Q&a and once I believe in general. I have one currently active. I know this doesn't belong here, but I was sick of the lack of dev attention. I apologize and thanks for not completely flaming me.
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It does look like the Atrix has an FM Radio chip.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/2
*epic fail. I missed that little comment about it HAVING the FM tuner. Thanks mn3kgtv4
that's an excellent ifixit teardown link.
look under section 10
Broadcom BCM4329 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, and FM Tuner
Seems to indicate the tuner is built in
Yes but is it completed in the circuit?
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mn3kgtvr4 said:
that's an excellent ifixit teardown link.
look under section 10
Broadcom BCM4329 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, and FM Tuner
Seems to indicate the tuner is built in
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Yeh, but it also says our little powerhouses have a cortex a9 processor... tegra ftw!
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Yeh, but it also says our little powerhouses have a cortex a9 processor... tegra ftw!
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Um. I'm not entirely sure whether you're being serious or facetious. The Tegra 2 is a cortex a9 processor...
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Lol read his response again he said Tegra FTW right afterwards ...sooo it kinda looks like he already knows
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Lol read his response again he said Tegra FTW right afterwards ...sooo it kinda looks like he already knows
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He says that ifixit also said that there was a cortex a9 in the ATRIX. The previous statement said that ifixit was indicating that there was indeed an FM tuner in the atrix, but there very well may not be. So, using my albeit rudimentary understanding of English, nobody can be sure whether he knew or didn't.
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Sigh, just because the bcm chip supports it does NOT mean its connected. G2x was a perfect example of this, it is nearly identical to Atrix. Until someone can show a schematic with FM circuitry connection, there will be very little effort spent for it.
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We have the BCM4329 chip.
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/2twMOxXPOCYGReFs
How do we determine that it is connected? How do we get the circuitry
Just look at datasheet of BCM4329 and little of reverse engineering
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What faux is saying is that the FM needs to be connected to the motherboard physically, in the G2x it aint ...so we need schematics from MOTO
I guess what I am wondering is (especially looking at the pdf of the bcm4329) if the FM receiver works, then why wouldn't the FM transmitter work?
It looks like it is the same circuit, so if one is connected, the other is too. In recent ROMs I believe they have gotten the FM receiver working, so logic stands to reason that with the right kernel, that we could get the transmitter working as well.
Is this really not a feature that any devs are interested in taking a crack at? I guess maybe they don't want to waste their time without knowing that feature is hardwired first, because I'm sure it's not likely that Motorola will be letting us have any schematics of the Atrix anytime soon.
I'm just saying from a hardware standpoint, it looks that this feature comes in tandem with the FM receiver, and not separately.
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I remember reading a while back that the atrix is capable of transmitting via fm. If true can this be worked on? The transmitter is supposedly in active, don't know why.
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Really? I'm the only one that would be interested in seeing this?
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Really? I'm the only one that would be interested in seeing this?
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No, you're not. This, and the hardware keyboard, are the only things I miss about my old N900. I don't think the Atrix has the radio, though. I'd love to be wrong, and would happily set about turning it on if it is present. Where did you hear that the atrix had a transmitter? A cursory google turned up nothing definitive...
I read about it here actually, after work I'll dig around and find it.
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I read about it here actually, after work I'll dig around and find it.
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Yep i hear it to that the atrix has the option on the chip to do recive and transmit fm but it was disable, and i hear it here too.
and i love that to work.
I know this sounds dumb but some say that this phone is set for failure due to it not having a unlock bootloader well what if we start a petition and let Motorola know what we want?
I'm just saying this because I see some people say is development going to pick up or not or some say well this other phone is better because now it's unlocked ...
With that said in a short time I have come to realize that it takes time and well I remember that a petition worked for another phone.
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IM IN
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The phone has been out for less than two weeks and people are already acting like the phone is headed towards failure because of the bootloader and a couple of minor issues that Motorola is working on.
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The phone has been out for less than two weeks and people are already acting like the phone is headed towards failure because of the bootloader and a couple of minor issues that Motorola is working on.
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Yea I agree with you.
And that's why instead of seeing more people complaining about it then how bout the try to do something about it and well a petition was my suggestion.
And like I said I read a article in engadget were owners of this one phone all made a petition and the manufacturer responded to them.
I want to say it was for the Motorola X... But not sure...
And while on the topic anyone know how to start a cyber petition?
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Some reading for thought.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
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Some reading for thought.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
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Ok so yea we may just be a small fish is the ocean that's the web but hey it worked for some.
BTW found part 2 of the article I was talking about and it was for a Motorola but they didn't exactly unlocked the boot loader in the end.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...e-android-phones/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I think that as processing power and overall I/O performance continues to increase with smartphones, the hypervisor idea that VMware is developing has the potential to be a game changer. I've been using VMware in some form since the early stages and at first it was limited by the current hardware technology at that time. As hardware specifications got better, so did the product. Now I couldn't imagine not having it in my data center. With a platform like this on a smartphone it would do several things. It would allow someone to easily run their own custom OS without modifying the "factory install " but more importantly it could provide one standardized hardware platform no matter what the underlying hardware configuration was. I would love to be able to develop one ROM that would run on 10 different devices without any additional modifications needed. That is my perfect world and with VMware and the performance potential of the dual core processors I think you are going to be seeing some real game changing technology over the next few years.
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Some reading for thought.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
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While that is a good read, I do believe the online/social blitz petitions was quite helpful in regards to HTC to unlocing their bootloader, or at least in them responding to the development community and creating that HTC Dev site that would facilitate those wanted to unlock their devices.
Even though Motorola is not HTC, I do hope that Moto does listen and make it happen.
TS out
Petition for Motorola to unlock bootloader- created Mar'11- so far 10,000+ signatures.
Motorola Locked/Encrypted Bootloader Policy
I could have sworn that I saw an FM tuner in the specs for this phone... Was I dreaming?
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Nope, you weren't dreaming, AT&T did in fact post that there was an FM Tuner in the specs and still shows it here.
I was just looking at their spec sheet and yep, it's right there in black and white ...
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Does anyone know of any apps that take advantage of an fm tuner?
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Specs does show it .. Hope i really does
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Not looking good so far.
jivy26 tried to run the FM radio app pulled from an I9100 and it FCed.
I tried enabling kernel support, and tried the apps myself, and:
1) App was FCing due to missing functions in the framework, not the kernel
2) When I enabled the Si4709 driver and enabled debugging, it indicated that it was failing to load. Even with debug enabled it isn't very verbose about what went wrong, but my first impression is that it isn't finding an FM radio chip.
I'll try again later, but this issue has gone from "low-hanging-fruit" to "needs some time/work to investigate" and I've got higher-priority/easier things to work on.
Good news is that NFC appears to be enabled in our kernel.
Thanks for letting us in on what you found Entropy, even if the news wasn't what we wanted to here... hopefully we can find a solution when things settle down a bit. Much higher priorities right now!
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That's a crock of crap! I was looking forward to taking advantage of that as the girlfriend's Inspire4g has it and thought it was a great features.
Wha't should we do, if we wan't to enable FM? A new kernal?
If FM is enable, the atrix will be perfect!
Who is working on it?
Nothing, no one, it's not possible.
Maybe we can check if the hardware supports it, to start, then, find which is the hardware, and then work on it, has been done to cliq and cliqxt on cm7
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We have a Broadcom BCM4329 chip that is supposed to support FM receiving and transmitting.
There is a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966108&highlight=bluetooth+radio that covers your question.
It looks kinda dead though
I will see with the morrison, zeppelin, and jordan developers from to see if something can be done
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I read somewhere that although we have the chip, the points for radio are not soldered onto the board or smt. Will update with link if I find the post
This has already been addressed. The horse has been beat to death.
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This has already been addressed. The horse has been beat to death.
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It sucks!
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I will see with the morrison, zeppelin, and jordan developers from to see if something can be done
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Wait for good news~
The chip supports FM, but there is no antenna. FM will never be brought to the Atrix.
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Wait for good news~
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this is likely not going to happen.
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The chip supports FM, but there is no antenna. FM will never be brought to the Atrix.
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You don't really need the antenna pin soldered to an antenna on this chip for low power send and receive. The problem is that the pins to send and receive signal are not connected and integrated into the board.
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This has already been addressed. The horse has been beat to death.
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But like the phoenix it began to rise from the ashes, so it needed to be beat some more!
I just found out that the devices which have blue tooth version 4.0 already are capable of doing nfc
They come with nfc enabled so, the motorola RAZR has the nfc feature. It has the hardware for it but it doesn't have the software for it currently so I was thinking if someone could help get that software which is required for nfc!!
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The Droid Razr doesn't have an NFC Chip.
Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 devices can talk to nfc devices. Whether we'll be able to use Bluetooth devices like the razr AS nfc devices is another matter. We would need software such as Android beam to support this I imagine.
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i would of thought that if this phone was capable. Motorola in all their might would of advertised it surely.
Anyhow. NFC is not coming to lincolnshire any time soon! lol
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Anyhow. NFC is not coming to lincolnshire any time soon! lol
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agreed, some of the shops here still use dial up for their chip and pin machines!
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Indeed!!! Haha and many places still dont even use chip and pin.
They use something called "cash"
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I believe that to use NFC (although I'm not sure if it is in there or not) you need a special antenna. Generally, it's attached to the battery. Since our battery isn't removable, that makes it kind of difficult.
It is kind of like that. On the back of my nexus s is 2 connectors which then come in contact with some kind of pad on the battery cover.
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