Okay so I am running the latest CM7 on my Thunderbolt. I am interested in taking advantage of the official tethering abilty detailed on Droid-life. (it wouldn't let me post the link).. Basically it's 30 extra bucks a month for unlimited 4g tethering (for those of us currently "grandfathered" into unlimited 4g)
Yes, I am okay with paying for this service. Has anyone successfully added this feature and used it in conjunction with CM7? Thanks in advance for any help!
If you were on Synergy you wouldn't need the official ass raping by Verizon hotspot app....
As for every other rom, you have Wireless Tether.
Why pay for double unlimited ability?
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CanesDrew said:
If you were on Synergy you wouldn't need the official ass raping by Verizon hotspot app....
As for every other rom, you have Wireless Tether.
Why pay for double unlimited ability?
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Your rom is not special. He uses CM7 and it has tether built it. It had it long before the thunderbolt and long before your ROM existed. Please don't post off topic stuff to talk up your ROM. This isn't the place to do it.
Anyways, he wants to pay for it and use it legitimately. That's his choice.
To the OP, have you tried grabbing it out of a ROM that has it and installing it on your phone? I can't say if it will work, but it's worth a try.
paying for tethering is like paying for two orders of all-you-can-eat pancakes at Dennys. does not compute.
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paying for tethering is like paying for two orders of all-you-can-eat pancakes at Dennys. does not compute.
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I would agree but in this case, but you get these jackasses running p2p off their cellphones just to prove their wireless connection is unlimited, that will just piss the carriers and turn off the fun for all of us.
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paying for tethering is like paying for two orders of all-you-can-eat pancakes at Dennys. does not compute.
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That made me LOL +1 sir
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Okay so I am running the latest CM7 on my Thunderbolt. I am interested in taking advantage of the official tethering abilty detailed on Droid-life. (it wouldn't let me post the link).. Basically it's 30 extra bucks a month for unlimited 4g tethering (for those of us currently "grandfathered" into unlimited 4g)
Yes, I am okay with paying for this service. Has anyone successfully added this feature and used it in conjunction with CM7? Thanks in advance for any help!
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not sure, it seems all verizon apps don't work without sense being built into the rom. If you want to officially tether you might to try out a sense ROM.
So far all the unofficial tether apps I have used do not work over 4g, they give me 3g speeds.
the one on the newest CM7 gave me better then 3g speeds when I had it tethered. But even then it still doesn't make sense to pay for the teather when we have a free version even if it is a little slower you're paying $30 a month for the data then another 30 for the teather? Sounds foolish.
Paying for Hotspot while running CM7 is like... the weirdest thing I've ever heard. You paid for the phone, it has that ability, you turn it on. Why pay again for something you can do for free. It's not like your data plan doesn't already cover what you're paying for AGAIN.
Not paying for data twice. Pay data once, tether fee is for integrity.
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Paying for Hotspot while running CM7 is like... the weirdest thing I've ever heard. You paid for the phone, it has that ability, you turn it on. Why pay again for something you can do for free. It's not like your data plan doesn't already cover what you're paying for AGAIN.
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shame on someone following the contract they agreed to...
Think about if for a second, all the freeloaders in this thread. The all you can eat pancakes at Denny's analogy is a bad one and does not compute here. Since you can tether multiple devices at the same time with Hotspot, your Denny's analogy is more like you trying to pay for one all you can eat while feeding up to 8 people. I'd like to see a single Denny's or any other all you can eat venue of your choice willing to do that. Why should Verizon?
I'm really trying to be nice here, but all you moochers could well ruin it for all the rest of us. If you want the service, pay the friggin tether fee.
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Not paying for data twice. Pay data once, tether fee is for integrity.
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If you're going to pay for "integrity" you should probably know a little bit more about what you're going to piss your money away on first.
LTE through big red follows block c provisioning from the FCC. That tethering is your right, and it is supposed to be free according to the people who regulate it (assuming you're on 4g)
If you're not using your 4g connection, feel free to give big red your $30/month for subpar 3g speeds on a network congested with iphone kiddies swapping pics of their budding chests and whatever else kids under 18 do with phones these days.
If big red had an hspa+ 3g with 4mbit connections it might be worth paying for.
I for one won't be paying for either my 3g or my 4g, one for the principal and the other because it's not even worth my effort to attempt a connection.
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I do not mind the pricing of the phone. The only pricing I cannot seem to comprehend is the $45 dollar data plan that is required.
The plan is 2GB, same as AT&T's $25 dollar plan... Even the iPhone gets this same plan.
Why jack up the price on the ATRIX?
Pretty sure that's only if you pick up tethering.
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Is it possible to buy this phone off-contract?
If you're just getting the phone and nothing else (no tethering), does it still require you to change stuff on your account? (would I have to give up my unlimited data for some retarded ATT reason?)
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If you're just getting the phone and nothing else (no tethering), does it still require you to change stuff on your account? (would I have to give up my unlimited data for some retarded ATT reason?)
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I don't know for sure but I would think so.
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This.
If you are getting the $45 data plan price from a certain article on theandroidblog.com - it is either a typo, or the writer just didn't know what he/she was talking about.
The official press release/article with the ATT exec stated in the applicable terms that a minimum data plan of $15 is required.
Think about it. I don't know anyone that would pay $45 for 2gb of data.
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Is it possible to buy this phone off-contract?
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A couple of places already are advertising $599 without contract, so apparently it will be available just like every other phone.
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If you're just getting the phone and nothing else (no tethering), does it still require you to change stuff on your account? (would I have to give up my unlimited data for some retarded ATT reason?)
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AT&T is coding the Webtop app to require a tethering plan to use it on the AT&T network.
If you are ignoring the docks / Webtop use, you can ignore the tethering and keep your current plan.
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AT&T is coding the Webtop app to require a tethering plan to use it on the AT&T network.
If you are ignoring the docks / Webtop use, you can ignore the tethering and keep your current plan.
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This is all conjecture. I haven't seen anything that claims this on any news/blog/rumor site anywhere except people making weird claims on the forums.
The $45 tethering plan will get you an additional 2GB of data come February 13th for a total of 4GB.
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Ok, so the article on The Android Blog was mistyped. That is a relief. a 45 dollar plan would deter anyone from the phone. $25 is better... if only I could keep my nonsmartphone Unlimited plan for $10. :/
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This is all conjecture. I haven't seen anything that claims this on any news/blog/rumor site anywhere except people making weird claims on the forums.
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You need to search a little harder. There are a lot of news sites reporting the pricing. Click HERE for one of them.
Under the section titled "Motorola ATRIX™ 4G" you find this sentence in the third paragraph "The first combines ATRIX 4G and the Motorola Laptop Dock for a promotional price of $499.99 after a two-year service contract and $100 mail-in-rebate after subscription to Data Pro smartphone data plan and tethering add on.". This indicates that to get the package deal you have to sign up for the Data Pro plan which is $25 and the tethering add on which is an additional $20.
If you go down to the quotes section under #3 you see this "Laptop Dock - Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
". #4 of the same section is indicating that tethered devices require the DataPro Tethering Plan (which at&t could also call using the HD dock tethering).
So all in all, if you're buying the phone by itself, you don't need to change your data plan if you currently have a smartphone data plan. If you are buying one of the docks, be cautious, as they will more than likely require you to change it.
Now here is my speculation on why at&t stated this pricing to news groups and not on their website. They are hoping that the pricing of the atrix will convince a large majority of the people that were excited about it to change their mind and purchase the inspire 4g that comes out next week. They will then release a statement on their website with "revised pricing". Again, my speculation.
Mike, that's still your interpretation of it all. I hear where you're coming from, but it isn't final yet.
ATT told me, both on their Facebook page and from a PR contact, that the HD dock doesn't require the tethering plan. I'm awaiting more detail before I do a more thorough write up on it.
Your last argument about changing pricing purposefully doesn't make much business sense. No one likes to operate in a manner in which they appear to be inept. Do they do it? Sure. Purposefully? I highly doubt it.
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It doesn't require the tethering plan if you stay in Wifi mode when you're docked. Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
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It doesn't require the tethering plan if you stay in Wifi mode when you're docked. Firefox browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires Tethering Plan.
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Again, that comment is preceded by "3 - Laptop Dock". When asked specifically about tethering and the HD dock (that also uses webtop and firefox), AT&T has said tethering is not required. I have inquired as to the reasoning behind this, and what it all really means. They have yet to respond with anything more than "we'll get back to you as soon as we can".
Did a couple google searches and didn't find the answer to my question. Is the 4g plan really unlimited or is there a cap at 5gb as usual? Thanks.
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unlimited for now...they could change it eventually
Well if it's anything like the 3g plan I had on my eris before it's truely unlimited. A lot of rumors where out there that said they would cap you or turn off service after 5gigs and it's total bs to scare you. I use 10+ gigs month after month and I was never capped, threatened or throttled. Granted I was stock using pda.net and it was totally doable.
So go balls to the wall!
it is truely unlimited but if you go crazy they may throttle you
Awesome, good to hear. Thanks for the responses.
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I'm not 100% sure if this is accurate or not..but I believe being on an old Alltel plan still, mainline being a business line, I believe, and then my added line...I TRULY am unlimited on 3g and 4g (Bought a THunderbolt to grandfather in) and not Verizon's "Reserve the right to throttle after 5 gigs unlimited" since I don't believe that was mentioned in Alltel contracts.
Also...it's possible I may have unlimitted tethering as well. Tethering isn't mentioned anywhere in the contract...but that's the lookhole. IF you all remember just 4-5 years back, anybody could tether a phone to their computer as a modem for internet without having a plan. It just wasn't a big deal since the data explosion hadn't taken off yet.
I have yet to be able to confirm this and can find very little information regarding it. Anyone in a similar situation or have any knowledge on the issue?
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Well if it's anything like the 3g plan I had on my eris before it's truely unlimited. A lot of rumors where out there that said they would cap you or turn off service after 5gigs and it's total bs to scare you. I use 10+ gigs month after month and I was never capped, threatened or throttled. Granted I was stock using pda.net and it was totally doable.
So go balls to the wall!
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Does your phone never leave your hand or do you just have no life to use that much data??
I was curious too, didnt want to see a $300 bill. I've used 14 gigs so far this month, phone just doest leave my hand always on forums watch YouTube downloading apps music and videos. Am a data whore. Got nothing better to do at work tho....besides working but eff that.
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taintphuck said:
I'm not 100% sure if this is accurate or not..but I believe being on an old Alltel plan still, mainline being a business line, I believe, and then my added line...I TRULY am unlimited on 3g and 4g (Bought a THunderbolt to grandfather in) and not Verizon's "Reserve the right to throttle after 5 gigs unlimited" since I don't believe that was mentioned in Alltel contracts.
Also...it's possible I may have unlimitted tethering as well. Tethering isn't mentioned anywhere in the contract...but that's the lookhole. IF you all remember just 4-5 years back, anybody could tether a phone to their computer as a modem for internet without having a plan. It just wasn't a big deal since the data explosion hadn't taken off yet.
I have yet to be able to confirm this and can find very little information regarding it. Anyone in a similar situation or have any knowledge on the issue?
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that may not be right because you had to change your data plan so it had 4g
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Does your phone never leave your hand or do you just have no life to use that much data??
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I had no home internet connection for about 4 months so I really didn't have any other choice. And it is really easy to hit that much data and I would hit more if 3g didn't suck so bad for videos streaming and the such. But for online gaming it wasn't to bad if you can stand 200 pings.
I have a question for you guys sorry to thread jack. But I decided i'm switching to Verizon for the HTC Thunderbolt. If I wanted the unlimited data for 29.99 do I have to buy it this month or would I be okay switching over to Verizon next month?
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I have a question for you guys sorry to thread jack. But I decided i'm switching to Verizon for the HTC Thunderbolt. If I wanted the unlimited data for 29.99 do I have to buy it this month or would I be okay switching over to Verizon next month?
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You are safe for getting it next month.
http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
u wiggin on us dood?
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http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
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http://andgeeks.com/google-android/service-providers/verizons-tiered-data-plan-makes-waves-883214/
This sucks!
I've rooted and circumvented Sprints Hotspots service for a year now.
Not sure if that's the way to go for me anymore.
This Verizon news really makes me appreciate Sprint's unlimited data scheme now.
But..they are cracking down on data abusers now...tracking big users and even sites visited indicating hacked tethering use and roaming totals...dropping people with excessive data use.
Concerned they'll end up saying screw it and implement data caps.
I value unlimited Sprint plans enough that, out of principle I'm considering just forking over the monthly $...perhaps getting on a favored list lol!
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no kidding. I checked and will clear 20 gigs this month...lol
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Doesn't matter, those who have unlimited will probably be grandfathered into unlimited data.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
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Lol...maybe! But I have a couple buds who moved to ATT, and I tried a phone out there myself....and that 2G cap is ridiculous! Seriously.
I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
Its going to happen eventually regardless.
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More importantly, they're still (as of radio ad yesterday) using unlimited data as a selling point for their phones.
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The fact that they don't limit or even slow you down when you reach 5 gigs of services is why I switched back to sprint.
You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
So far...
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You sure about that. I've heard varying takes on that.
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It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
The few screwing it up for the rest of us...go figure.
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It's going to happen cause people are greedy and are gonna continue to do it whether we like it or not. Sprint will eventually make us pay for the tiered data plans, its going to happen. I hate thinking bad ****, but this is one of those things that I really think is inevitable.
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I won't say it'll never happen.. But, the unlimited data is one of the few perks that brings in/keeps customers for Sprint. I haven't been treated badly by Sprint, but I've got no reason to remain loyal for loyalty's sake.
I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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I doubt they will. Over time most data will become wireless anyway. Once all is on 4G or LTE, it won't matter the bandwidth as much. Sprint already charges more for premium data anyway. Not to mention their voice coverage sucks and the unlimited plan is what helps them keep customers. I would switch to Verizon as soon as Sprint says the unlimited plan is changing.
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100% agree on all fronts.
Their CS is fantastic, bar none...but without truly unlimited data I no longer give a **** about that. If I have to pick between the big 3.....AT&T would have the fastest 3G and most pervasive 4G...Verizon would have the best "all around" pricing and fastest 4G and Sprint would have....what? The worst coverage AND crappy plans but pleasant customer service? No thanks. I'll take verizon.
...I hate AT&T with a passion. I have them for home internet service. I have never in my life been treated so poorly by a service I pay for....paying a bill over the phone or online is a gigantic pain in the ass...and I have never ever had a service shut off for paying a service IN FULL, EARLY until I had the modern-day incarnation of AT&T....and I am far from alone on that.
This is Sprint's ace in the hole...well, that and Google recently buddying up with them....but...lacking unlimited data they have no compelling reason to stick around.
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I Don't know alot about it but is there really a differance between using Pandora,Netflix,dishnetwork,ect..... on my tethered gtablet compared to directly on my phone. Not sure......But it does enables me and my kids to enjoy this entertanment in the car without totaly tieing up my phone....Thats just my opion
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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I guess the issue is whether you use the tethering abusively or not... I use it to provide wifi to my tablet on the road (it is used in lieu of the phone) and in the car when my kids are in the back with their notebook (once in a while). Overall my usage is consistent with a my phone usage as ...
As far as limiting it the bandwidth, they already are doing it by reducing your connection speed. Less Speed = less debit = less sharing!
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This pretty much describes my tethering usage, except the kids part.
I like the leaked plans from AT&T for their LTE pricing. This is based off of what Lulsec stole today, but apparently AT&T is going to go with speed tiers when their LTE is released instead of bandwidth caps, you just pay for how fast you want your internet. To me that makes more sense.
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As far as data usage, not really. However, it increases the potential for additional/more data usage as you might not of loaded it on your phone if that was the only option.
Personally, any reasonable usage is fine. Big difference between checking email on a tethered laptop.. and torrenting.
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Yeah, umm, unless that torrent download is an absolute emergency (and I actually have been in that situation before...on the road at a trade show....needed a kinda huge file I had hosted at home....) you are just torrenting tethered off your phone to show off...even 4G sucks relative to even a basic cable-modem connection.....
I think the people who use 10+gb a month tethering illegally should take a step back and think about what they're doing. Just pay the price every month to tether the right way. Because once you guys really piss Sprint off, that 20gb you use every month is going to cost a fortune thanks to the tiered data policy they will enact. Then you'll be paying MORE than you would have if you had paid for the tethering.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/21/sprint-to-nix-unlimited-from-mobile-broadband-and-hotspot-plan/
So, anyone know a good way to get out of a contract. Apparently you can't be grandfathered in and i want out.
I don't use tethering or Wimax so I'm good. Smartphone data is unlimited still.
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This is for people that pay for sprint hotspot only. Its still unlimitied phone usage and rooted tether.
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This is good about time they stopped the bandwidth hogs on hotspots slowing down my bandwidth on my phone
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As much as this doesn't affect most of us, all it's going to do is make people cancel their hotspot and gravitate towards the free tethering you can get when you root. But, in all reality, most people who pay for and use the hotspot rarely go over 5 gigs a month anyways.
yea, i guess I should not have added the hotspot, just used rooted wireless tethering. Guess sprint showed me not to try and do things there way.
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yea, i guess I should not have added the hotspot, just used rooted wireless tethering. Guess sprint showed me not to try and do things there way.
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What are you doing that would use over 5GB of data while tethering?
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What are you doing that would use over 5GB of data while tethering?
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That's a lot of porn, man.... Filthy, filthy porn....
You know this only puts them one step closer to making smartphone plans like this . Im well aware that they have said they will keep the unlimited data plan . But I have a feeling that will eventually fall under the "Terms and Conditions are subject to change" umbrella when it does happen LOL
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You know this only puts them one step closer to making smartphone plans like this . Im well aware that they have said they will keep the unlimited data plan . But I have a feeling that will eventually fall under the "Terms and Conditions are subject to change" umbrella when it does happen LOL
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LOL, I will happily pay the ETF as I jump off the Sprint bandwagon (if/when) that ever happens.
I think I enjoy Sprint's best 4G speeds in the nation but the day they loose unlimited on the phone, I'm off.
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LOL, I will happily pay the ETF as I jump off the Sprint bandwagon (if/when) that ever happens.
I think I enjoy Sprint's best 4G speeds in the nation but the day they loose unlimited on the phone, I'm off.
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LOL, its not like you can go anywhere else and get truly unlimited data. So oh well.
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LOL, its not like you can go anywhere else and get truly unlimited data. So oh well.
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But nobody else is trying to pull the rug out from under us like sprint. Everyone else is being upfront.
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But nobody else is trying to pull the rug out from under us like sprint. Everyone else is being upfront.
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Well if you are paying attention to things, like most people have it seems to be doing this....
1. Network adds Iphone
2. Cuts unlimited Data
3. Puts in more dirty policys
4. Watches people leave their contracts
Im guessing sprint is next to start with the madness. But realistically, all of them are doing it so there's no where else to go imo.
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Well if you are paying attention to things, like most people have it seems to be doing this....
1. Network adds Iphone
2. Cuts unlimited Data
3. Puts in more dirty policys
4. Watches people leave their contracts
Im guessing sprint is next to start with the madness. But realistically, all of them are doing it so there's no where else to go imo.
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The Mobile Hotspot/ Air Card limit was a bad move, I can understand the phone tethering limit to 5GB.
This move gives Verizon the all clear on flagging their Mobile Hotspots as the better & cheaper alternative, why by a limited 4G WiMax hotspot when you can buy a faster & $10 cheaper monthly ($50 for 5GB) LTE hotspot from Verizon?
It would be better if they grandfathered current users before the limit because now the ETF free door has been swung open, loosing more contract subscribers valued at an est. $1700 x number of mobile hotspot users, over a 2 year contract.
SMH
But no one thought to bring that possible backlash up at an investor meeting. Where I assume this deal went down.
unlimited data is next ..
Sprint no longer has the only best phones and their 4g sucks big time. If they drop unlimited on phones no one has a justifiable reason to stay with them.
Just in time to grab the nexus on VZW I guess. :-\
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Sprint no longer has the only best phones and their 4g sucks big time. If they drop unlimited on phones no one has a justifiable reason to stay with them.
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Except their extremely cheap prices...
Remember, that's the reason most people go with sprint. I would already be with Verizon if that wasn't the case.
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Sprint no longer has the only best phones and their 4g sucks big time. If they drop unlimited on phones no one has a justifiable reason to stay with them.
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except for the little fact that its cheaper for me and my wife than any other carrier around, and there are no signal issues where I live. Other than that, you're absolutely correct.
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Except their extremely cheap prices...
Remember, that's the reason most people go with sprint. I would already be with Verizon if that wasn't the case.
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I totally agree.
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Hi guys just wanted to let you know I found a way to get a working free mobile hotspot from Big Red using the same method as the Bionic's (thanx to who ever found this). Anyway I made a quick video for the the Razr. As for those wondering about Big Red watching you, I used 43 gb last month and 32 gb so far this month Also here's an article from XDA about throttling legalities on 4g networks. Can't say for sure, I'm no lawyer but it looks legit.
Worked perfectly. Thanks!
Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
looks like you copied zedomax post man...
i am 1addictsad78 and i just found a way to resolve to endless loop by changing the MTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTOOfogAaU
So, we should stay away from this procedure???
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Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
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This is NOT illegal, in my mind, if you have payed for a certain amount of data. You are not stealing their services because hot spotting is NOT their service. It is a a feature built into your phone that they blocked so they could charge you extra. Period. Even if this was illegal, you can always root and install a tethering app. At that point, I'd like to see them explain why this is still a service provided by then.
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Your account can be flagged, and Verizon can either sue you for illegally using (read: stealing) their services, throttle you permanently, or just be nice and just tack on the tethering price to your monthly bill without telling you.
This is illegal, don't do it.
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You are probably correct. I changed the setting back after testing because I don't need any legal issues (or an increase in my bill), but for people who don't care or think they won't get caught, the procedure at least appears sound...
i have a massive data when i started using the thunderbolt with open garden tether. I'm a netflix guy and use as a modem to my apartment for over 6months and never get flagged. now i have the droid razr doing this Verizon hotspot too.
grandfathered rules!
It's not a matter of legality. It's not illegal.
It's a matter of ethics. Are you willing to break the Terms of Service that you signed agreement with when you bought the service? And are you willing to deal with Verizon's reaction when they find out? If they add a tether charge to your account, you earned it.
@ x2breakoffate, you have paid for unlimited phone data. You have not paid for ANY tether data. They sold it to you with the data blocked. If you didn't like that you should not have bought a phone that was crippled.
What you offered is a lame attempt to make yourself feel better, not a justification.
If any of you would read the full post and the associated links, you would know about the Block C provision. I've used it for a couple months on the Bionic and had no problems.
@ ad78.....I'm sorry it wasn't clearly stated that this was not my own work and I copied it from the Bionic
jkoldha said:
Hi guys just wanted to let you know I found a way to get a working free mobile hotspot from Big Red using the same method as the Bionic's (thanx to who ever found this).
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@ everyone else: Stated I am no lawyer but I can say for those like me on the UNLIMITED DATA PLAN, yes I think it's BS that they lock down the devices and limit tethering to a usb. As posted earlier http://goo.gl/cL3L1 it is illegal under Block C to limit or throttle 4g devices.
You can throttle Block C devices for reasonable network management reasons (you using a 100 GB of data per month and therefore causing data congestion is one of those reasons).
And yes, it is illegal to use a paid service without paying for it.
I could tap into DirectTV's cable service and use it for free somehow, or get channels that I'm not paying for...is it simply a moral dilemma because they lock it down "simply because they want to charge me money" for them?
Terms of use aren't just a wall of text there because they want to put it there, it's a legally binding document that you AGREED to (which is the equivalent of signing). They CAN sue you for "pirating" their officially branded tethering service on their network. That's what you're doing. You're disabling the check in THEIR software to make sure you have the tethering plan, and you're using THEIR officially branded service, through THEM, without paying THEM. That is illegal.
The only difference between this and pirating a version of Microsoft Office and disabling the serial check is the fact that it's more easily monitored since all of the stolen data you're sending is going through their servers, possibly with something attached that tells Verizon that you're tethering.
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you have paid for unlimited phone data. You have not paid for ANY tether data.
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There is no difference to phone data and tether data.
It's all just information sent by the TCP-IP protocol.
It is like buying a book, but you are only allowed to read it outside because you have not payed for the ability to read it by artificial light.
Its still stealing bottom line. If you can afford a smartphone you should be able to afford internet at home or just pay extra for a tethering plan.
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But in order for this to not count towards you're data is if you're on the grandfather plan and rooted right? Cuz if ur on a 4gb plan then you're data would count correct?
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With a net income of over 3 billion, I don't think it hurts them that much from the very few root user users and even fewer heavy 4g users.
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But in order for this to not count towards you're data is if you're on the grandfather plan and rooted right? Cuz if ur on a 4gb plan then you're data would count correct?
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Not sure what you mean. Basically I was grandfathered in on 3g unlimited so I fell into the unlimited 4g plan. Yes you have to be rooted to use this.
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Not sure what you mean. Basically I was grandfathered in on 3g unlimited so I fell into the unlimited 4g plan. Yes you have to be rooted to use this.
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Yea I meant the unlimited data plan. That's the only way you can use the tether hack because if your not on the unlimited data then if you use this hack you're data will count right?
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or you could just download the latest android wifi tether app from google. it works perfectly.
pajn said:
There is no difference to phone data and tether data.
It's all just information sent by the TCP-IP protocol.
It is like buying a book, but you are only allowed to read it outside because you have not payed for the ability to read it by artificial light.
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No, it's like buying basic cable and expecting to get all of the channels. It's all just data sent by the cable line after all!!!
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With a net income of over 3 billion, I don't think it hurts them that much from the very few root user users and even fewer heavy 4g users.
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Right, let's just all steal food from Walmart, it's a multi-billion dollar retail chain, it won't hurt much.
Honestly, if you're going to tether, at least use a 3rd party app. Using their software to steal free service is like peeing on a cop car and expecting to get away with it.
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No, it's like buying basic cable and expecting to get all of the channels. It's all just data sent by the cable line after all!!!
Right, let's just all steal food from Walmart, it's a multi-billion dollar retail chain, it won't hurt much.
Honestly, if you're going to tether, at least use a 3rd party app. Using their software to steal free service is like peeing on a cop car and expecting to get away with it.
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Ok but if you use a 3rd party app to tether its still using your data allowence right?
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