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I have been reading the threads on this forum, for awhile but wondering why there hasn't been kernel releases based on 2.6.32(2.2) or 2.6.35(2.3). Wouldn't it be easier to just port the drivers directly to the new kernels and the work out the features instead of working on the features with the old kernel and try to port them again later?
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
Update: I did skim read a little
Yes I'm with you now, its much better for updated Linux kernels for better compatibility and performance, so I agree, why not devs???
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seajamiet said:
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
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Im talking about the linux kernel that the rom is running on, not the baseband for the rom. But thanks for the reply anyways
seajamiet said:
The devs believe .52 is the best. I wouldnt worry about basebands. It doesn't do much apart from provide the radio and sensor stuff. If you want kernels then just flash. 52. No big deal really
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He's talking about the android kernels, not the basebands
but a wild guess would be maybe the newer kernels aren't compatible with SE's basebands?
maybe but if they could port the 2.3 rom to the current basebands, why can't they port the baseband to the kernel? hopefully one of the devs can answer this.
They want to start with something that works. Once SE's kernel will be fully modified and working, then they can move on. Much better way forward than to jump in with a totally new kernel version.
Everyone keeps stating the vibrant has issues with battery on gingerbread...... if this is a driver issue, can't these be borrowed from a phone with the same/similar hardware but is on gingerbread? And why doesn't Samsung at least release the nessary drivers so the phone can be supported seeing as they don't seem to be willing to put gingerbread out for it......
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This has been answered a million times dude. First we dont even have a leak or anything for the vibrant, were using the 4g's leak which is different codes, different radio's etc. Blame T-Mobile for dropping support on this phone.
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My questions haven't been answered.... why can't we get the proper drivers from other phones that use the same chips?
There are numerous other galaxy s phones..... where all the same chips (other than the radio )will be the same! GPS, CPU, graphics etc. Are the same...... so why can't these items be ripped out of other Roms to make the vibrant 2.3 roms?
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Because no other phone is using the same driver/firmware combo. The closest things we have are the captivate and i9000 which both use different radios. Same is true of the vibrant 4g.
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explodingboy70 said:
Because no other phone is using the same driver/firmware combo. The closest things we have are the captivate and i9000 which both use different radios. Same is true of the vibrant 4g.
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The captivate is very close to ours.. the issues ive seen with gingerbread seems to be more than the smal.hardware differences of radios and such, so if there is a more clear answer what the big problems really are, im curious.
since they just leaked the 2.3.4 for captivate I was hoping we would have a better Ginger coming.. or at least should be a good sign that ours(leaked Ginger) can't be far behind right?
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Silentbtdeadly said:
The captivate is very close to ours.. the issues ive seen with gingerbread seems to be more than the smal.hardware differences of radios and such, so if there is a more clear answer what the big problems really are, im curious.
since they just leaked the 2.3.4 for captivate I was hoping we would have a better Ginger coming.. or at least should be a good sign that ours(leaked Ginger) can't be far behind right?
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I'm not sure what exact answer you're looking for but the differences don't end at the radio.
The accelerometer on the captivate is turned 90° which would need to be fixed in the kernel.
The radio differences render the GPS useless without the same hack that we presently have.
The button layout is slightly different though an easy fix.
Using a captivate firmware is no different than using the i9000 firmware. Just because the phones look alike doesn't mean a thing. Once you start looking beyond the outer physical appearance you'll understand that the Vibrant is rather unique. Of course there are work arounds and hacks but nothing that we aren't presently doing. Without someone stepping up on a regular basis and compiling kernels that implement certain fixes or without a leak of our own nothing changes.
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I guess I meant the problems the current roms have for many people. GPS is a given, never could get it working properly, but instability and atrocious battery life would make me think we were using a ported rom from a totally different phone.
I guess the thing I'm wondering, if there's been 2 Ginger leaks for captivate, then a vibrant source must be in the works and can't be far behind right?
It is amazing that you devs have managed to overcome all of the issues that you have, something the OP really needs to realize.. most thought it unlikely or impossible that ginger would be working as well as it is..
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Am considering KI8 but holding back - is there any point if ICS is round the corner?
I can't find much solid info on when ICS will be available for the S2... Anybody know if we'll see it inside of a month or so?
tia!
Surely it will depend when the source code is released? That's assuming they do as they didn't with honeycomb
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ICS isn't even related yet, i would imagine the sgs2 will get ics, how quick is anyone's guess.
Team hacksam will work in it, but it's a whole new version and will take time for them to port it when then source hits.
They said they wouldn't release the honeycomb sources to stop people putting it on phones and giving everyone a bad experiance, we ics is gingerbread+honeycomb we should get sources again.
Again, how soon, no one knows, depends how much has changed, aka how hard it is for the cm guys to port, or how fast samsung are.
So go for ki8, you shouldn't need to wipe between stock roms versions, i hear it's supposed to be faster than ki3.
Goodness knows when the next leak will be.
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
for me there doesnt seem much point in going for Ki8, not because ICS may turn up but because every rom thread ive read based on it seems to be quite buggy. Im sticking with Ki3 until something comes out that adds something new
I havent used KI3 so I can't compare.
Im using KI8 and havent stumbled over any bugs.
Device is fast, stable and smooth, even when underclocked at 800 using setCPU.
Using chainfires rooted stock KI8 kernel.
Best battery life I've had on this device so far. Have frozen the usual apps tho.
My opinion..worth it.
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Hello
Ive been fighting for the last 2 months on new firmware for att version of galaxy note ice cream sandwitch.
What Samsung has told me there isn't any date coming out its the same thing over and over.
Im going to contiue to fight this battle until they punch the firmware out in the us
I like note i might as well root the device
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You gotta fight!!!!! ....for your righttt!!!!! ......to UPDATEEEEE!!!. . Its cool man just relax, root your phone and flash one of the many amazing ROMs the devs have cooked up for us. Trust me when I tell you... you won't be missing the official update
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On the rom in my sig and I will NOT be flashing the official POS update. They can keep it. This rom blows the official bloated ICS away. Already have premium suite too.
Quit your fight. You're wasting time.
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Uhm. That's not entirely true. The offical ICS isn't useless. If it's release, so will the source. That means better cooked roms as well as OC kernels.
Kraize said:
Uhm. That's not entirely true. The offical ICS isn't useless. If it's release, so will the source. That means better cooked roms as well as OC kernels.
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Couldnt of said it better
I'm just waiting for the official release. I think it well be soon enough, don't worry. Like stated above. Once out i would let it settle into the dev section for a week or two to mature, then flash a custom ROM based off the official ics. Of course i would be running the official ics for a little bit until the custom roms mature. Just my own plan.
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its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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Do you even realise that not even one year ago, a good android phone had only one processor running at around 1Ghz.
Yayodroid said:
I'm just waiting for the official release. I think it well be soon enough, don't worry. Like stated above. Once out i would let it settle into the dev section for a week or two to mature, then flash a custom ROM based off the official ics. Of course i would be running the official ics for a little bit until the custom roms mature. Just my own plan.
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Why wait? There are a couple that are remarkably mature and stable now. My daily driver is CM9. I'm tempted to try the Hybrid. Anything made by or if he is involved FJ is a quality product. Screw the official update crap. They can keep it. All I want is the official source released, then, well, the sky is the limit.
ive been waiting for official since i bought this thing..two days ago i said f%$k it...20 minutes later i was rooted and ROMed..i flashed ICS Objection..and i love it ... its so smooth and clean!!!
mark1s said:
Do you even realise that not even one year ago, a good android phone had only one processor running at around 1Ghz.
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Lies. A year ago my atrix sported a dual core T2, which I'm finding is quite superior to this scorpion crap we have.
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erick161 said:
Lies. A year ago my atrix sported a dual core T2, which I'm finding is quite superior to this scorpion crap we have.
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He said GOOD Android phone
you should get a PC instead
mottyengel said:
its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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I don't give a piss about OCing. Anyone calling ics slow hasn't flashed the roms available for the note.
Ocing this phone will not benefit me in ANY way whatsoever. Already score 3800-4200 in quadrant on this rom. Have full premium suite. Run ANY game at a rate that is super smooth. Get enough battery life to have 4.5 h of screen on with 24h unplugged.
Pray tell, how the hell will official ics help me? It won't.
Quit trying to sound cool and say "oh but ocing!" "oh but this or that!"
Fact is, with current roms the note is hitting close to its maximum potential and there isn't much else to improve.
Actually flash what's currently available before you comment on what the note "will be". It's not going to get much better.
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mottyengel said:
its true, the official update is useless to me. but when the official one comes out, so does the source. and with it comes better roms from devs but also, and more importantly to me.... OC kernal... i need that, i tried those ics roms that are out now, they're all great, but its too slow... If you ever download torrentz, you know what im talking about. If im running Adownloader to download a torrent, i cant watch a video at the same time at 1.5 ghz. but at 1.83, i can.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Try the rom in my sig. Please.
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Err0xx said:
I don't give a piss about OCing. Anyone calling ics slow hasn't flashed the roms available for the note.
Ocing this phone will not benefit me in ANY way whatsoever. Already score 3800-4200 in quadrant on this rom. Have full premium suite. Run ANY game at a rate that is super smooth. Get enough battery life to have 4.5 h of screen on with 24h unplugged.
Pray tell, how the hell will official ics help me? It won't.
Quit trying to sound cool and say "oh but ocing!" "oh but this or that!"
Fact is, with current roms the note is hitting close to its maximum potential and there isn't much else to improve.
Actually flash what's currently available before you comment on what the note "will be". It's not going to get much better.
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There is a lot more you can do with a kernel besides overclocking after the source is released. It will benefit each of us. I say ICS is useless without the kernel source. It may be good now for the people that have updated to the ICS roms but it will be great after the scource is released. You can say what you but there will be no comparison to the roms now and the roms after getting the source even without overclocking. You must have no idea what your talking about or maybe your just not familiar with custom linux based kernels. The custom kernels is where its at.
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There is a lot more you can do with a kernel besides overclocking after the source is released. It will benefit each of us. I say ICS is useless without the kernel source. It may be good now for the people that have updated to the ICS roms but it will be great after the scource is released. You can say what you but there will be no comparison to the roms now and the roms after getting the source even without overclocking. You must have no idea what your talking about or maybe your just not familiar with custom linux based kernels. The custom kernels is where its at.
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Remember this thread and come back to it and discuss with me what's changed.
Not much will.
You have no ****ing clue who my XDA identities are. Ill wager I know a damn lot more than you about Linux kernels.
With the current rom features, things can marginally improve but,for the most part, aren't going to change much.
Please keep this thread bookmarked and come back to it after ice source is out- I get a demented thrill when I say "I told you so."
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erick161 said:
Lies. A year ago my atrix sported a dual core T2, which I'm finding is quite superior to this scorpion crap we have.
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Very true. I came from an Atrix, with the exception of the random lags i get (thinking its Snapdragon related), this is a far superior phone to my Atrix. I absolutely love the size and feel and build quality.
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All I'll say is if you can't watch a video or play games without your phone stuttering, exchange it.
When I was on GB without OC no problems. And now that I'm on ICS, still no problems. My buddy's note is the same way.
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Love the work here, just wondering if anyone is working on a JB rom for Thunderbolt as I haven't seen anything. If not why not if you don't mind me asking? Is it because there just isn't enough people interested in this phone anymore?
Thanks!!
This will probably never happen. JB is a 5th gen android OS and is designed exclusively for modern hardware, such as multi-core processors, discrete graphics hardware, etc. It's like trying to put Windows 8 on your TB, it just aint gonna happen. The amount of hacking and downgrading required to do it would make it no better than ICS, so you might as well run an ICS rom.
pappy97 said:
Love the work here, just wondering if anyone is working on a JB rom for Thunderbolt as I haven't seen anything. If not why not if you don't mind me asking? Is it because there just isn't enough people interested in this phone anymore?
Thanks!!
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There are several developers working on JB for the T'Bolt with varying degrees of success, so far no "daily driver" has surfaced.
Keep watching the Android Development section and use Google to look around elsewhere.
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This will probably never happen. JB is a 5th gen android OS and is designed exclusively for modern hardware, such as multi-core processors, discrete graphics hardware, etc. It's like trying to put Windows 8 on your TB, it just aint gonna happen. The amount of hacking and downgrading required to do it would make it no better than ICS, so you might as well run an ICS rom.
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Except for the part where I'm running JB on my OG Incredible which is even older than the Bolt.
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tm24fan8 said:
Except for the part where I'm running JB on my OG Incredible which is even older than the Bolt.
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Same here.
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tm24fan8 said:
Except for the part where I'm running JB on my OG Incredible which is even older than the Bolt.
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Reason why you can run it on your dinc is because it doesn't have 4g plus it doesn't have the crappy ril that we have that keeps us from having a fully working Ics/jb rom to begin with.
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There was mention of it on the infected forums.
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Reason why you can run it on your dinc is because it doesn't have 4g plus it doesn't have the crappy ril that we have that keeps us from having a fully working Ics/jb rom to begin with.
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It may make it difficult, but the main thing holding back jb development will most likely be lack of development. With the ability to modify the system and kernel, jb should very well be doable.
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It may make it difficult, but the main thing holding back jb development will most likely be lack of development. With the ability to modify the system and kernel, jb should very well be doable.
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Its not doable because the bolt has a unique ril and if we don't get an official release from HTC. It will be plagued with problems just like liquids ics rooms with data drops and so on. No other phone uses a ril like the bolt does. This phone puts up so many obstacles until its not funny. Plus liquids ril was a fluke to make it work like they did.
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There is barely a daily driver version of ICS out for the TBolt. I sincerely there will be a JB version that doesn't suffer from data drops and other calamities.
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There is barely a daily driver version of ICS out for the TBolt. I sincerely there will be a JB version that doesn't suffer from data drops and other calamities.
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NuSense works fine as a daily driver for me. No issues of data drops
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swolfe2 said:
There is barely a daily driver version of ICS out for the TBolt. I sincerely there will be a JB version that doesn't suffer from data drops and other calamities.
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There are multiple daily drivers with ICS.
First, I'll acknowledge the fact that all T'bolts are different but on mine I have used the original BAMF leak, NuSense and a few others as daily drivers. I've had problems with battery life on all of them but I have problems with battery life on ALL T'bolt ROMs, ICS just makes it a little bit worse.
None have data drops or other calamities on my phone, if yours does it may very well be your phone, not the ROM.
The data drops comment is more for the liquid/twisted ICS asop builds that had to have a ril hacked together just to get data to work. Twisted has worked on this ril and has made the data drops less frequent than the earlier builds. Reason why you don't have data drops from the leak and nusense is because the ril was done by HTC to work. So no the data drops isn't because of peoples phones but hacked together software that is still being tested abf modified. I run twisted build and get drops and if I run nu sense I don't get drops.
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Dark Jedi said:
The data drops comment is more for the liquid/twisted ICS asop builds that had to have a ril hacked together just to get data to work. Twisted has worked on this ril and has made the data drops less frequent than the earlier builds. Reason why you don't have data drops from the leak and nusense is because the ril was done by HTC to work. So no the data drops isn't because of peoples phones but hacked together software that is still being tested abf modified. I run twisted build and get drops and if I run nu sense I don't get drops.
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My battery on twisteds lasts much better than any other I've ran ICS wise. I haven't tried nusense yet.
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