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Just saw this site:
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...4-01-10-Zpad-DOCK-G-tablet-Dock-HDMI-LAN.html
They said about 15days to U.S
In my experience: 10days or so.
update(01/11(beijing time)) The price drop have been over.. maybe they will have the next point..
XDA marketplace..The thread of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883086
I usually ignore websites that advertise by yelling with three exclamation points. (!!!)
I'm not saying it's fake, it just bothers me.
I see.. I think so..
Please, one question: do you know if this dock is compatible with Advent Vega? Thanks!
I don't know if it is suitable
espariz said:
Please, one question: do you know if this dock is compatible with Advent Vega? Thanks!
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I dont know if it is compatible with Advent Vega. But the Advent Vega and Zpad looks Very similar.I think that might be malata OEM products.
You can find a guy who has the DOCK from UK. ask them this thing.
Says they cannot process commercial or business credit... I'm only trying to use a debit card. Odd. Maybe its automatically trying to run as credit because its a MasterCard as well? Bah.. oh well.
Why not paypal?
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Says they cannot process commercial or business credit... I'm only trying to use a debit card. Odd. Maybe its automatically trying to run as credit because its a MasterCard as well? Bah.. oh well.
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Why not pay it with paypal?
As far as I know, you can use the credit card (VISA or MasterCard) and paypal.
I do not know more
Just ordered one. Paid via PayPal. Thanks for the tipoff!
No body like this pirce???
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Ah, sorry to hear that. Why not pay it with paypal?
As far as I know, you can use the credit card (VISA or MasterCard) and paypal.
I do not know more
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That's true... I could use PayPal and have PayPal process from my card instead.. I stopped using PayPal because it wouldbtake forever to transfer money from my bank, but I forgot they gave that option now, which seems to work well. I'm going to order this weekend now.. lol thanks.
Edit: any comments on viewing angle and how steady the gtab is in this dock? I was thinking I might be able to throw some Velcro on the bottom of this thing and the dash of my car and use it as a car mount as well if it wasn't too obstructive to view. I always use it for music. Anything is safer than trying to quickly reach for my passenger seat at red lights. Lol
Based on my recent experience shopping with aliexpress.com, AKA AliBaba, i would recommend anyone to be very/very careful placing an order with them.
I placed my order on 12/11/10, paid by paypal and i am still waiting for item to arrive; the company has so far sent me three emails automatically extending the delivery date and i just asked for a refund; they extended the delivery date again.
What is strange is that the company uses what looks like the standard official paypal login screen; The money was taken out of my bank account with a paypal referral # and yet my account with paypal does not show such charge, so i am pretty sure i've been scammed of my money.
I just contacted paypal about this transaction and they must be investigating this merchant.
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Based on my recent experience shopping with aliexpress.com, AKA AliBaba, i would recommend anyone to be very/very careful placing an order with them.
I placed my order on 12/11/10, paid by paypal and i am still waiting for item to arrive; the company has so far sent me three emails automatically extending the delivery date and i just asked for a refund; they extended the delivery date again.
What is strange is that the company uses what looks like the standard official paypal login screen; The money was taken out of my bank account with a paypal referral # and yet my account with paypal does not show such charge, so i am pretty sure i've been scammed of my money.
I just contacted paypal about this transaction and they must be investigating this merchant.
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There are many fraud companies. But I think all this will end soon. Because it2steve will give us surprises. You will get the desired product from him . And fast.
as long as you use aliexpress your money is pretty much safe!its when you deal with the manufacturer directly on alibaba.com u have to worry!! on ali express you dont release payment til you receive the item and verify it with aliexpress! and there is a feedback system like ebay on aliexpress im not saying its impossible to get scammed but alot harder!!! check it out remember alibaba you deal with the companies directly ali express your order goes through them and is like paypal in a way! your money doesnt get released til you verify you recived your order and its not damaged and works correctly!! if not you can open a dispute and get a refund or a discount!!
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as long as you use aliexpress your money is pretty much safe!its when you deal with the manufacturer directly on alibaba.com u have to worry!! on ali express you dont release payment til you receive the item and verify it with aliexpress! and there is a feedback system like ebay on aliexpress im not saying its impossible to get scammed but alot harder!!! check it out remember alibaba you deal with the companies directly ali express your order goes through them and is like paypal in a way! your money doesnt get released til you verify you recived your order and its not damaged and works correctly!! if not you can open a dispute and get a refund or a discount!!
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I too believe this to be true. In my (very few) dealings with with aliexpress its was very structured as far as if/when/how I received my product. The vendors there rely heavily on a feedback system much as ebay does.
I think the part that we all hate it the thought of waiting 21 days for our toys. I'm the same way which is why I paid 2 1/2 times what most are paying for my first dock. I wanted it and wanted it now.
The idea is to open a good line of communication with someone where the product is that is trustworthy, delivers, and sticks to it. I am personally working on getting some stock here (as well as APX_)for us but prefer not to speak about it until it's in my hand. That's just easier all the way around.
Ok guys, i'll ammend my post.
I was just contacted by Paypal who informed me that the transaction is listed with them as well as a referral number which, tried as i did, i could not find originally in my Paypal account, so i'll give the merchant the benefit of the doubt.
I understand the item is being shipped from China for a minimum shipping fee, but must this merchant start sending customers emails within one week of purchase with links to contest it ? So far i've received at least five such emails, which is unnerving...
Ordered mine, its easily the best deal I could find out there for the dock. Thanks for the heads-up on the price drop.
In my opinion, the aliexpress pay system seems to besecure so far, giving the seller a set time to ship the product of 3 days. Of course it sucks having to wait around 15 days for the item to arrive here from China.
UPDATE: 10 JAN 2011 10:27 PM PST - Just received the tracking number and the claim that the item has shipped. Doesn't look like a scam, but I'll feel better once the dock's in my hands.
I have a few extra docks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865038
keeping you guys updated!
No body want to get it directly from your place quickly but like to waiting a long time from far away? I don't think so...
So I ordered mine on the 10th, and received 2 tracking numbers, but none of them work. Has anyone else ordered from this and did they receive the products they ordered?
Its just been 2 weeks and I am getting nervous, I can at least count on paypal or alibaba to get me my money back if this was a scam I hope.
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So I ordered mine on the 10th, and received 2 tracking numbers, but none of them work. Has anyone else ordered from this and did they receive the products they ordered?
Its just been 2 weeks and I am getting nervous, I can at least count on paypal or alibaba to get me my money back if this was a scam I hope.
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This wasnt a dock ordered from me was it???
...sent from my ' un-stock' vibrant
Hi guys, I though it would be a good idea to start a threat just for everyone who placed an order through Play.com UK and paid full price.
We can use this thread to keep everyone updated on the progress of their ordered, and any updates etc; whether they are able to get it at the discounted price, full refund, partial refund etc.
I ordered a 16GB this morning at 8:30am, and order was confimed at 2:44pm and sent to packing for delivery.
Price - £349
ordered at about 5am this morning
order confirmed at 05:57
packed at about 4pm this afternoon
16GB @ £349
Mailed them asking to cancel and advised I will source elsewhere for a much cheaper price... (I imagine its too late though)
Looks like Play.com are out of stock now. I can't find the HP touchpad 16/32gb anywhere on their site. It was there a few hours ago.
I'm also waiting on a Touchpad from play.com which I bought at full price earlier today.
My gut instinct having dealt with Play earlier on similiar issues is that we'll all be returning our TP's for a full refund
Still I'm going to remain optimistic..
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ordered at about 5am this morning
order confirmed at 05:57
packed at about 4pm this afternoon
16GB @ £349
Mailed them asking to cancel and advised I will source elsewhere for a much cheaper price... (I imagine its too late though)
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I'd recommend not cancelling your order just yet.
you'll be in a better position to negotiate with them once you have the product.
If you cancel before they despatch it, they won't lose anything, they'll just send it to someone else who was able to place an order.
Once you've got it, hopefully we'll be in a better position a few days after all this commotion, and they may be willing to refund the difference.
otherwise they have to go through the hassle or receiving product back, and then arranging to sell it on - probably at the reduced price.
I'm going to wait to see if mine actually comes through, then assess the situation then.
If they don't openly offer the refund, I'll put a complaint to them, and to the FSA.
their returns policy gives you 7 days to request the return or raise an issue - this is different to 7 days to actually return the item to them.
The complaint etc could last as long as you want, as long as you raise the issue within 7 days.
we should have a strong argument if we refer them to the fact they were aware on Monday that the supplier had significantly reduced the price, and that a large number of supplier not just in UK, but all across the world had reduced their prices to fall in line, and they are being unfair against the consumer by acting this way.
We could also quote things we can get - regarding their comments on Monday evening that they were aware of the price discount and were working on it, yet they chose to do nothing.
Ordered as mine was in my cart, however at time of checkout it stated not in stock.
I doubt I'll get it. however I'm also one of the wait and see's
There may be hope for us yet.
In the US - HP have agreed to refund customers the difference of all ordered purchased within 60 days of the price change.
HP are also 'leaning' on companies to offer the price match themselves.
So if Play.com don't crumble under the pressure over the next few days - maybe there is hope from HP directly.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ne...efund-price-differences-for-early-buyers/3857
HP apparantly informed retailers on Monday that the prices will be reduced, and requested that all retailers offer to refund the difference in the sale price.
HP also advise that it can take a few days for all retailers to act on this.
called play.com in the end and they said it was too late to stop dispatch anyway (wanted to save myself a couple of £ in postage to be honest) - they have sent me my return code and marked it as potential return
so i still have to wait for it anyway...
but the chap I spoke to I did would they not do a price comparison, or are they even considering lowering the price but he said nope. Full refund or keep at full price basically.
@danlat1415 - do you have any of that information or anyway to process that with HP as I'll consider keeping it if thats the case! I wonder if we can ping an e-mail to HP pronto to try and get some clarification from them that we can apply for refunds if the retailer won't honour it...
If I was HP and I'd told everyone to cut the price on Monday, and found out retailers were basically ignoring them (probably to pocket the profits) I'd be a bit peeved -
out of this experience, I'll definitely not be considering Play.com for anything further apart from as a last resort...
sounds like @Analogue Dude has had a similar experience before... that's the feeling I am getting now too.
I'm looking into what HP are doing for UK customers and I'll keep you updated.
It's still very early, and once order are sent out and customers start complaining in large numbers - they may change their mind.
Also depends on what action HP take over the next few days.
Play.com don't want to get bad publicity, and if all other retailers are honouring the price change, it'll be bad for Play.com to try and profit from the limited stock they have - compare to the bad publicity they'll get.
I've been hunting around the net, and this isn't the only forum complaining about Play.com's decision, so strength in numbers...
I guess the only real outside chance of getting a partial refund is if every customer who bought a TP from them returns it this week. Hopefully the logistical nightmare/expense of checking every return will push Play into offering the refunds.
As I said earlier I doubt it happens though, Play are a horrible company to do business with, I haven't used them for years and if it wasn't for this deal I wouldn't have touched them with a foot long stylus.
I'd recommend anyone who has ordered from Play.com to complete the form on the attached link for the BBC Watchdog program.
we may not get anywhere with it, but it's best to put as much pressure as we can on Play.com to honour the discounted price.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
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I guess the only real outside chance of getting a partial refund is if every customer who bought a TP from them returns it this week. Hopefully the logistical nightmare/expense of checking every return will push Play into offering the refunds.
As I said earlier I doubt it happens though, Play are a horrible company to do business with, I haven't used them for years and if it wasn't for this deal I wouldn't have touched them with a foot long stylus.
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Really hope so or HP kick their ass (which I doubt will happen)
I got the impression of a very non-caring company when I called them up - to be honest, I had a good impression of them before - but only used them a handful of times... I guess its because I never had to _deal_ with them properly before and just did an order which came and had no issues...
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I'd recommend anyone who has ordered from Play.com to complete the form on the attached link for the BBC Watchdog program.
we may not get anywhere with it, but it's best to put as much pressure as we can on Play.com to honour the discounted price.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/
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done that - not sure how much help it will give though...
i also wonder though is it worth putting in a 'request to return' with play for everyone's who order has dispatched ? its too late to cancel, but if they have a _lot_ of requests to return and the main reason being the stupid prices... ?
Don't suppose there is a HP email addy to send concerns to? Wonder if they can confirm or deny possible refunds...
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As far as I know, Argos and Play.com were the only two retailers that hadn't yet offered the lower price (whether it be for a limited time, like Amazon)
But Argos has this morning now caved in and reduced their prices to £89 and £115.
This will hopefully help in the fight against Play.com
they are now the only hightreet retailer trying to greatly profit from this sale.
I'm waiting for an update from HP and I'll let you know. Waiting to hear back from their press office.
So far they have only confirmed that they'll refund direct customers, and credit the retailers.
Just waiting to find out if their credit customers of retailers who are refusing to refund the difference.
(if the retailer are being credited by HP, then they are severely taking advantage of the customer.)
As more developments happen each day, hopefully by the time the Touchpads arrive it'll all either be sorted or a lot clearer.
had an email from play.com this morning saying they would not refund the difference and only option was to keep or send it back for a full refund.... will post the email in a few
was looking for an e-mail form for hp too to submit my disappointment with play
Thank you for your reply.
We regret to inform you that we are not able to process a partial refund should there be a change of price for HP TouchPad 16GB webOS 3.0 WiFi 9.7 inch Tablet PC but we are more than willing accept the item back upon receipt for full refund.
We have two options to process a refund for this order.
First is to allow 15 banking days delivery time frame to take effect so we can provide a Not Received Claim Form and the second is to return the item upon receipt. The latter option will require a Returns Authorisation code which we will be happy to provide as soon as you contact us.
You also have the option to print a pre-payed label on-line. In order for you to return an order, please follow the step by step procedure which can be found on the link below:
http://www.play.com/Help.html?page=retn
This will prompt you to sign in on your PLAY.com account and choose the order you need to return.
We hope that this information is of some help to you. Please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience this matter has caused you and thank you for your patience and valued custom.
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I just logged into my Play account and my order is now showing as cancelled with today's date beside it.
Card payment had gone through so I wonder what they're playing at
I'd suggest that we go protest outside Play HQ but I don't fancy going to jail for a touchpad (maybe an ipad....)
Brad from HP support said to contact UK HP support on 020 7660 0950
not really very helpful so far... i will check my play.com order - but i got an email saying it was dispatched
Lothaen said:
Brad from HP support said to contact UK HP support on 020 7660 0950
not really very helpful so far... i will check my play.com order - but i got an email saying it was dispatched
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Thank for the update.
I too have got an email this morning confirming my order has been despatched via DHL and I've got a tracking number.
expect it to take upto 5 working days to be delivered, then I have 7 days for receipt to inform them if I wish to return for full refund.
That's approx 8-13 days to get this resolved and to put pressure on Play.com
Hi everyone, I was looking forward to join the I717 community but sadly, I don't think I'll be getting my Note because of some ******* who decided to rip off people thru ebay, I was so happy by the fact that I was getting a new Note, and now I'm trying to get my money back and the guy keeps giving excuses, ebay told me to wait until Saturday to open a didn't receive item case, but for what I know is gonna take some time, the bad thing is that I sold my Sensation and my T-Mobile's Galaxy S2 to be able to buy the Note and now I'm stuck with a Prepaid LG Flip phone. Beware when using ebay, don't wanna end up like me. Bad thing $600
Anyone here can point me on the right direction...
Dispute! If you paid with Paypal then you'll most likely recover your money.
Nothing you can do but wait.
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Yes, I did used Paypal, guess youre right all I can do is wait... which is not easy when you spend that kind of amount, I am an a 28yr. DoD veteran (Sadly, because of an accident) I've dealt with situations that I never thought I'll ever witness, but I never been played like that.
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Dispute! If you paid with Paypal then you'll most likely recover your money.
Nothing you can do but wait.
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Buyers are always covered. Which is tough for selling. But it gives buyers some confidence that they have some sort of recourse. Without buyers ebay can't survive, even with millions of sellers
Only way the seller can win the dispute, is if he can show tracking signature delivery to the registered pay pal address.
It takes 10 days at least, sorry to hear you have to go through this, it will just take some patience.
Try not to instigate or piss the seller off. Just keep it cool and let ebay/paypal work for you. At times they may end up sending you the item damaged on purpose, then the claiming gets harder.
I used Ebay to get mine and they were a great seller i believe their name was cellstoreusa and also got a 2 year squaretrade warranty as well I would just say next time make sure you are buying from those sellers who have the highest ratings, Im sorry this happened to you though i hope you get your money back
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Only way the seller can win the dispute, is if he can show tracking signature delivery to the registered pay pal address.
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From what I heard, you have to use eBay for shipping in order for eBay to trust your tracking information. If you shipping the stuff youself without using eBay to produce shipping labels, you are SOL.
Not true.you have to use a shipper that provides online tracking our a method where deliver can be confirmed. You can use USPS with delivery confirmation, UPS with tracking, Fed Ex, DHL, etc.as long add you can show that it had tracking and show proof it was delivered via online for example. I am a Powerseller on EBay btw.
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Not true.you have to use a shipper that provides online tracking our a method where deliver can be confirmed. You can use USPS with delivery confirmation, UPS with tracking, Fed Ex, DHL, etc.as long add you can show that it had tracking and show proof it was delivered via online for example. I am a Powerseller on EBay btw.
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I'm not a powerseller. But I have around 56 feedback. 100% positive. This guy speaks the truth. you'll get your money back.
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Don't worry. You will get your money back, but it will take some time. I got scammed some years ago. It took a few weeks of going back and forth with ebay, paypal, and the seller. Paypal finally awarded me the money. But (at that time) they could only award me from money that was in his account. That may have changed. Best of luck.
Can't provide any direction, but I"ll chime in with my own Note from ebay experience.
Won one on ebay last month, posted as "brand new". When I received it; no stylus, aftermarket rear cover, and aftermarket battery. Most likely stolen Returned and still waiting on refund.
Had a similar experience... Long time ago with a 300+ dollar phone
Hit that bastard up with a paypal claim.. No seller likes those. Keep all emails and records of attempts to contact. You are protected via paypal "xxxx.xx" amount of dollars
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Do you have a link to the listing?
*USPS with "signature" delivery confirmation. To the verified shipping address on record with Pay Pal.
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Can't provide any direction, but I"ll chime in with my own Note from ebay experience.
Won one on ebay last month, posted as "brand new". When I received it; no stylus, aftermarket rear cover, and aftermarket battery. Most likely stolen Returned and still waiting on refund.
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Sorry to hear that, sounds like you may have been sold a Best Buy demo unit. Those are usually missing the Stylus, battery door, but everything can be bought OEM except the box. No box to compare the IMEI usually is cause to be alert and weary.
I was offered a phone in that condition, while testing it, it would go into the orange demo screen and randomly show feature videos. But it can be reset via recovery.
I mostly buy my devices locally on Craigslist. Usually cheaper than ebay and I get to really test it out before paying. Not say youre guaranteed anything tho. Still a risk. YMMV
I've always wondered, how would PayPal get you your money back if the seller just closed their account (banking account)? Do they actually come out of pocket for you?
Yes they do..
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I've always wondered, how would PayPal get you your money back if the seller just closed their account (banking account)? Do they actually come out of pocket for you?
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years ago you were sol..not sure how it works now.
If OP paid by CC or bank to paypal to seller you can dispute the charge through them
If you paid with funds already in your paypal account you have to wait through the process unfortunately (a good reason why I always pay via one of my credit cards, and not my paypal balance)
Here is the link for the listing... It was listed as brand new/unopened, thanks everyone for the help and support.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-S...Cell_Phones&hash=item231bbca264#ht_500wt_1156
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Do you have a link to the listing?
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I just sold my Iphone on Ebay and they are so anal about protecting the buyer, I was upset on how long I had to wait to get my money. Now I'm not that upset about it. If you do exactly what they want and either use Ebay to print yor shipping label or upload your tracking data immediatley, there's no way to get ripped off except maybe for missing items or defects. I didn't get my money until Ebay got confirmation of delivery. I then had to wait 4 days to get my money from Paypal. I don't know what takes so long for Paypal unless they try to mske a couple days interest off my money.
what if the sends a fake package with signature confim with nothing inside?
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what if the sends a fake package with signature confim with nothing inside?
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You take pics of the label...which shows the weight. ..and of the box open and empty
Thur u arrrrrrgh
Hi guys,
I put my transformer prime on ebay yesterday at a buy it now price of £350 which I thought was fair considering the prime's condition. Someone bought it within about 6 hours which was great, however, he only has 1 feedback for a saw he bought in 2011.
He sent me this message over ebay:
Hi mate, Glad I won your item. I'm currently in U.K at the moment. Please email me at [email protected], confirming the exact condition of the item. I will be going for an appointment will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email me at [email protected] using the item number as the subject. cheers
seems dodgy. Only in the UK for a bit? going for an appointment? Using a freeweb email address? His address checks out as being from the UK
I am aware of people reversing payment on paypal once theyve received the product and I don't know how to defend myself from that happening. I can't afford to be scammed as I'm a student and need the money to buy a laptop as my other one packed up yesterday.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers, Nick
Did he send payment? Did he pay with Paypal?
Just make sure that you ship the tablet with tracking and insurance. You might consider doing a proof of delivery (signature) as well. As long as you can prove it was delivered to the address he specified he can't come back later and say he never got the item. The tracking, signature confirmation and insurance all cost a few bucks extra, but when dealing with a $350 item and a dodgy customer they are well worth the extra fee.
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Hi guys,
I put my transformer prime on ebay yesterday at a buy it now price of £350 which I thought was fair considering the prime's condition. Someone bought it within about 6 hours which was great, however, he only has 1 feedback for a saw he bought in 2011.
He sent me this message over ebay:
Hi mate, Glad I won your item. I'm currently in U.K at the moment. Please email me at [email protected], confirming the exact condition of the item. I will be going for an appointment will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email me at [email protected] using the item number as the subject. cheers
seems dodgy. Only in the UK for a bit? going for an appointment? Using a freeweb email address? His address checks out as being from the UK
I am aware of people reversing payment on paypal once theyve received the product and I don't know how to defend myself from that happening. I can't afford to be scammed as I'm a student and need the money to buy a laptop as my other one packed up yesterday.
Any advice would be great,
Cheers, Nick
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I'd be concerned about wanting to "confirm the exact condition of the item". If he wanted to do that he should have contacted you before bidding, not after winning. Also, whatever precautions you may take, if he leaves the country after he has your hardware in hand, you will not have much recourse if things go sour later-even if you have all the documentation to prove your side of things. Any way you could get him to pay cash?
On the yahoo account, I wouldn't be too concerned about that. I know lots of people who use yahoo, gmail, etc as their primary email accounts. This keeps things so that your email account is not tied to your ISP and you can keep your address if you change service providers. Also, I personally keep a separate Gmail account that I only use on ebay so that I don't have to give out my "real" address which I only give to friends and family.
thanks for your replies guys,
no, I have not received any money into my paypal account and am waiting for a response from him. Just a quick question regarding postal insurance: Do I insure my tablet up to the value of £350 and receive that if it all goes wrong? Why doesn't everyone just claim things went missing and both parties win?
also to the guy above, that bothered me too. The item's condition was extensively detailed in my description with photos and everything
cheers, Nick
With insurance you specify the sale price of the item and if it goes missing you collect that amount of money from the postal service which you then use to repay the purchaser.
The reason that everyone doesn't just say things are "missing" is because doing so is a crime punishable with prison time if you are found out. Also, it is unlikely that you will be able to get a stranger to reliably lie for you.
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With insurance you specify the sale price of the item and if it goes missing you collect that amount of money from the postal service which you then use to repay the purchaser.
The reason that everyone doesn't just say things are "missing" is because doing so is a crime punishable with prison time if you are found out. Also, it is unlikely that you will be able to get a stranger to reliably lie for you.
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So Worst case scenario is the item goes missing in the post according to mr fraudulent purchaser and I collect cash from the post office?
nickkyboy36 said:
So Worst case scenario is the item goes missing in the post according to mr fraudulent purchaser and I collect cash from the post office?
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No. The worse case scenario is that you don't buy insurance and the package gets lost or damaged in which case you are out of a tablet and have to refund the $350 out of your own pocket because your item was never delivered.
(Total loss= Tablet + $$350)
2nd worst scenario is the tablet is lost, but you paid $5 (or whatever) for the shipping insurance so you don't have to refund the purchaser out of your own pocket but you are still missing a tablet.
(Total loss= Tablet + $5)
When shipping relatively expensive items overseas it is always worth paying an extra $10 or so to the shipping company for insurance, detailed tracking and signature confirmation. This is doubly true if you don't trust the buyer which seems to be the case with this guy.
I sell my prime with dock, with 399 euro. I buy this in aprile. 2years waranty. I never use this tablet, and i want to sell. I change 2 prime, for defective problems. This is OK. For link send PM.
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almightywhacko said:
No. The worse case scenario is that you don't buy insurance and the package gets lost or damaged in which case you are out of a tablet and have to refund the $350 out of your own pocket because your item was never delivered.
(Total loss= Tablet + $$350)
2nd worst scenario is the tablet is lost, but you paid $5 (or whatever) for the shipping insurance so you don't have to refund the purchaser out of your own pocket but you are still missing a tablet.
(Total loss= Tablet + $5)
When shipping relatively expensive items overseas it is always worth paying an extra $10 or so to the shipping company for insurance, detailed tracking and signature confirmation. This is doubly true if you don't trust the buyer which seems to be the case with this guy.
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oh I see, thus keeping the cash the buyer has given me.
This does sound like a scam to me, I once had very similar emails when I advertised a car.
I wouldn't part with your Prime until you have the money safely. I don't think you're covered by eBay payment protection (because his feedback is low), but might be worth checking with eBay customer service how protected you are.
Good luck!
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nickkyboy36 said:
oh I see, thus keeping the cash the buyer has given me.
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Pretty much. According to eBay rules if your product was lost and not delivered you would have to refund them their money (Paypal would happily do it for them without your consent). If you bought insurance, the postal service would pay you the listed value of the tablet so you would get $350 (minus whatever you paid for insurance) and the purchaser would get their $350 back as well.
Insurance is ALWAYS worthwhile, especially for items over $100 and often for items as low as $30 if you have a bad feeling about the buyer.
I've used Ebay a LOT.
1 - Never send without a payment
2 - NEVER, I repeat NEVER EVER accept a payment through PayPal that they used a credit card to make. Reason? People claim that they were "frauded" and do a chargeback. PayPal retracts the money from you and you are out everything.
3 - If you receive a payment email from the buyer NEVER trust them. EVER. Go directly to your paypal through your web browser, never through their links. Reason? They have fake paypal pages set up to make you think you got the payment. I've seen this more times than I can count...it almost suckered me the first time it was that good.
4- ALWAYS get insurance, tracking number and mandatory signature upon delivery. DO NOT EVER send without any of these. Period.
5 - Make sure to ship through whatever government shipping options you have if available. Canada Post, USPS, whatever...this usually avoids brokerage fees (which you can apply to be your own broker and get the item anyway, but it's a headache and a HUGE scam shipping companies LOVE to employ for extra cash)
6 - If the guy says he's from somewhere reasonably local (UK, USA, Canada) then states "I am overseas working in Africa on a geological survey ship, can you please send to my cousin in Nigeria" tell him to **** off and repost it.
7 - EVERY fake buyer will send a template email "Thanks guy, I am happy to be winning your item off of ebay and can not wait to get it! I am so excited!", it never sounds conversational and never mentions the specific item. You can send them back an email that asks them specific questions and they'll answer with another template "Glad to hear from you, I will send the money requested and $50 extra dollars if you send the item as soon as possible through the fastest way".
If the person on the other end can't have a conversation, even in halted English, ignore them and move on. They are a scammer, usually from Africa, using templates to try to scam. Chances are they can't speak a lick of English, or even count. They entice with excited sounding emails offering extra money above and beyond the asking price, then send a fake email that they paid you with a link inside that takes you to a fake page.
This screams scam, I'd back away from it right now. If your selling on Ebay make sure you have someone with atleast 6 to 12 months history, and with a good rating. People will buy a bunch of crap $1 cables so they can raise up there rating and then start scamming on big name items.
When I sold my iPhone 3G years ago I ended up with someone offering to pay me and paypal but wanted me to ship to his Niece in another province... it was a gift and she'd be soooooo excited... apparently....
I walked away from that deal quickly.
Put it up on craigs list, meet in a public place and get cash.
I would run the other direction. This sounds no good.
Hello everyone,
I signed up for the Free VR promotion when I purchased my S8. About a week ago I was notified that my VR had shipped. When I got the package to my surprise Samsung had sent a Gear 360. I was not upset as I believed they had run out of VRs and exchanged it with a Gear 360. IMO it's more desirable than a VR anyways. Today I received the email below from Samsung. It is good to know that I can return the Gear 360 to them at no cost to myself LOL. I just wanted to post this to see if anyone has had a similar issue.
I got the Gear 360 delivered today as well! What if I don't return it I wonder.... I already sold it on eBay. I have not received an email from Samsung though
I received the camera too. I'm using it as a dash cam and it's fantastic. I'm glad they sent me the camera, I'll get way more use from the camera.
Yea the camera is a better gift and they are still sending VRs. The funny thing is my wife did the promo on the same day and only got a VR. Make sure to claim your Action Director so that you can edit video.
trace1er said:
I got the Gear 360 delivered today as well! What if I don't return it I wonder.... I already sold it on eBay. I have not received an email from Samsung though
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There isn't a whole lot that Samsung can do. They can politely ask for the camera to be returned. They could make the camera unregisteredable so that you cant use the editing software. They could send you a "bill" that you would not be obligated to pay...All though highly unlikely and probably close to being illegal they could ask T-mobile to bill your account as they have your IMEI. I wouldnt worry about the last one. I dont think Tmobile would allow that as they would lose costumers.
Dstu10, Samsung can actually do something. There is a law that says you can't be charged for unsolicited goods (You didn't order anything); but if you ordered something and received something else by accident you are obligated to call and return the item, or the company can legally charge you for the cost of the item.
We'll see, because like I said I sold the camera on eBay immediately and shipped it already. I've not received any email from Samsung..... Yet.
Hey how do you use it as a dashcam? What settings are u using?
Here's my thinking...
The terms and conditions say:
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GIFT DETAILS: Upon verification of the Offer Claim Form and Qualifying Purchase receipt
(determined by Sponsor in its sole discretion), the Participant will be sent a Gear VR and
controller (est. $129.99 value) (“Gift”). Gift will be sent to the address provided on the Offer
Claim Form within approximately 6-8 weeks after verification. No more than 75,000 Gifts are
available in the Offer. Offer is valid and can be combined with other Samsung offers, rebates,
programs, or promotions unless otherwise stated. Sponsor is not responsible for late, lost, or
undelivered Gifts for any reason. [B]No Gift substitution or exchange will be allowed, except by
Sponsor, who reserves the right to substitute a Gift of equal or greater value in case of
unavailability of a Gift or force majeure.[/B] Each Participant shall be solely responsible for
payment of any and all applicable federal, state, and local taxes for any Gift received. All other
costs and expenses not expressly set forth herein shall be solely the recipient’s responsibility.
Gifts are available for a limited time, while supplies last, on a first-come, first-served basis.
So as the Gear 360 is of greater value, we can argue we thought they simply decided to upgrade us... And just send the VR back to avoid double gift?
caloyzki said:
Hey how do you use it as a dashcam? What settings are u using?
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Using the 60fps video recording with a 128gb Samsung card Evo plus (red one). I bought a small caseco core 360 stand from Amazon and peeled the rubber plastic piece off the bottom of the camera. Works perfect. On hot days, I leave my windows up and the AC on so it don't overheat.
20degrees said:
Using the 60fps video recording with a 128gb Samsung card Evo plus (red one). I bought a small caseco core 360 stand from Amazon and peeled the rubber plastic piece off the bottom of the camera. Works perfect. On hot days, I leave my windows up and the AC on so it don't overheat.
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Thanks. Can you please link me which one you bought from amazon?
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MagneticZer0 said:
Dstu10, Samsung can actually do something. There is a law that says you can't be charged for unsolicited goods (You didn't order anything); but if you ordered something and received something else by accident you are obligated to call and return the item, or the company can legally charge you for the cost of the item.
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Like you said we did not order anything....Nor would it be worth Samsungs time to collect $230 from me. They would risk bad publicity and/or upsetting someone that just purchased a $750 phone.
jcastill said:
Here's my thinking...
The terms and conditions say:
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GIFT DETAILS: Upon verification of the Offer Claim Form and Qualifying Purchase receipt
(determined by Sponsor in its sole discretion), the Participant will be sent a Gear VR and
controller (est. $129.99 value) (“Gift”). Gift will be sent to the address provided on the Offer
Claim Form within approximately 6-8 weeks after verification. No more than 75,000 Gifts are
available in the Offer. Offer is valid and can be combined with other Samsung offers, rebates,
programs, or promotions unless otherwise stated. Sponsor is not responsible for late, lost, or
undelivered Gifts for any reason. [B]No Gift substitution or exchange will be allowed, except by
Sponsor, who reserves the right to substitute a Gift of equal or greater value in case of
unavailability of a Gift or force majeure.[/B] Each Participant shall be solely responsible for
payment of any and all applicable federal, state, and local taxes for any Gift received. All other
costs and expenses not expressly set forth herein shall be solely the recipient’s responsibility.
Gifts are available for a limited time, while supplies last, on a first-come, first-served basis.
So as the Gear 360 is of greater value, we can argue we thought they simply decided to upgrade us... And just send the VR back to avoid double gift?
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Sure, but they sent the VR to not upset people who expected a VR. Samsung could have easily cut their losses by not sending out VRs. I highly doubt they are expecting people to send the camera back.
caloyzki said:
Thanks. Can you please link me which one you bought from amazon?
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Caseco Core 360 Magnetic Car Mount Phone Holder for iPhone 7/6S Plus 5S/SE Samsung Galaxy/Note Devices - Single (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SWYADQC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_YI2dkLFcroLYH