ROM Issues - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been experiencing ROM issues and of course this is the first time for me downloading ROMS; so please, I am not trying to live in ignorance. In fact, the opposite. I have done the research, checked multiple sites, blah, blah, blah.
I downloaded the latest version of CWM Pro Version. I backed up my current ROM and looked at some of the latest and greatest ROMS. I downloaded the SkyRaider Zeus ROM and liked it, but could not receive or make phone calls. I downloaded another ROM and the same issue. Plus, I had multiple issues with the certain apps not working (for example, LOCALE would open and close).
So, I reverted back to my stock ROM, which I like, but I keep having those annoying "updates" trying to download. Then, I also read on XDA...
ClockworkMod Recovery: The recent "5.x" update of ClockworkMod Recovery (CWR) has known issues. Particularly, it does not restore backups and will enter into a bootloop. For the time being, do NOT update to this version CWR and do NOT use Rom Manager to backup, flash ROMS, or restore backups because in order to perform these operations, CWR needs to be current. Links to how-to and alternate recovery images will follow after I've slept, drank some Jack, and further manipulated my mind into cooperating with reality.
So, some of you more experienced with Android could answer some questions...
Has this issue with CWR been taken care of?
Are these common problems with ROMS?
Will flashing a ROM in recovery take care of these issues?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks everyone!
Living by Faith in Christ,
Ryon

First off, never install a ROM in bootloader, you will brick your device.
I personally prefer to download the ROM from a forum, then place on sd card then manually go into recovery and flash it. I have never had a problem doing it this way.

Ah man! I used the wrong terminology. Thanks for setting me straight. I changed my first post so that people could answer the questions correctly in the future!
Any other wisdom out there would be great!
Ryon

RyonAdcock said:
Has this issue with CWR been taken care of?
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Yes. Everything should be working correctly as of 5.0.2.1.
Are these common problems with ROMS?
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Yes. If you did not flash the appropriate radio for that ROM (which from the description you gave is probably your problem). That may also be what is causing Locale to close depending on what it checks on startup. Remember, radios are flashed in bootloader and roms in recovery.
Will flashing a ROM in recovery take care of these issues?
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No, you need to download a radio that is suggested for use with the ROM.
At this time, most use MR2-latest but the ROM threads should recommend one in their description.

Thanks for the quick reply! As with answered questions come more questions.
Could you help me understand the theory behind radios? I am not quite sure why the radio needs to be changed.
Also, what is the common program or app that most people are using to update or change their radios? I have heard of a few, but would like more wisdom.
Thanks again!
Ryon

RyonAdcock said:
Thanks for the quick reply! As with answered questions come more questions.
Could you help me understand the theory behind radios? I am not quite sure why the radio needs to be changed.
Also, what is the common program or app that most people are using to update or change their radios? I have heard of a few, but would like more wisdom.
Thanks again!
Ryon
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Radios need to be changed since the 4g devices can't use *228 to update roaming like 3g devices. If you had a TB on froyo you will need to update radio prior to root cause you won't signal after you flash your first Rom or after flash you better have WiFi or be near a computer or you won't be able to use ur phone.
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[Q] Someone please help me. I'm lost.

Ok, so I've tried to do my own research and have come up with very little. It took me about a year to figure out what rooting actually meant and did. So I rooted my SGS vibrant and flashed a bionix rom (i think). It says "bionix shut down sequence initiated" or something like that when I turn it off (any ideas on what it is or how I can find out). I really have no idea what version it is. I also would like to put a new rom on my phone but am scared ill screw it up. I watched a youtube video that told me how to do it the first time I flashed anything. It works with a few random screw ups but KILLS my battery. I would really like for someone who knows more than me to explain what a nandroid backup is and how to do one. What the clockwork rom manager can help me do. What the one click lag fix did. Why my computer won't read the storage things on the phone when connected to the phone anymore. What is this odin thing. What is a kernel. will I still get the ota updates without the stock rom. Where did my stock rom go when I pushed backup before I flashed this rom in the rom manager app. Did I actually wipe all the original data from the phone. Why can't I restore boot animation with one click lag fix(it says somethings not found... Did I wipe/delete it?). What is an apk and sdk(or skd)? What is a voodoo lag fix. How many times can you flash beer something goes wrong. I'm really new to ALL of this and have had no help really when I've asked a lot of people who apparently know more than I. ANY help from ANYONE who knows ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Almost all of those questions can be answered by reading the Tips and Tricks or Noob Guide threads. Those two threads have given me all the info I've ever needed for the Vibrant.
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Human.debris420 said:
Ok, so I've tried to do my own research and have come up with very little. It took me about a year to figure out what rooting actually meant and did. So I rooted my SGS vibrant and flashed a bionix rom (i think). It says "bionix shut down sequence initiated" or something like that when I turn it off (any ideas on what it is or how I can find out). I really have no idea what version it is. I also would like to put a new rom on my phone but am scared ill screw it up. I watched a youtube video that told me how to do it the first time I flashed anything. It works with a few random screw ups but KILLS my battery. I would really like for someone who knows more than me to explain what a nandroid backup is and how to do one. What the clockwork rom manager can help me do. What the one click lag fix did. Why my computer won't read the storage things on the phone when connected to the phone anymore. What is this odin thing. What is a kernel. will I still get the ota updates without the stock rom. Where did my stock rom go when I pushed backup before I flashed this rom in the rom manager app. Did I actually wipe all the original data from the phone. Why can't I restore boot animation with one click lag fix(it says somethings not found... Did I wipe/delete it?). What is an apk and sdk(or skd)? I'm really new to ALL of this and have had no help really when I've asked a lot of people who apparently know more than I. ANY help from ANYONE who knows ANYTHING would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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Theres a lot of questions in there so I'll just bite off a few at first. Before that, have you taken a look at the vibrant bible thread in the dev forum? It covers a lot of the basic ' how tos '.
Firstly, you can possibly see what version of bionix you are running by looking under settings - about phone - build number. now might be a good time for you to odin back to stock and start fresh. Odin is a program that runs on your pc and can safely install a rom on top of any lag fix you may have enabled. You can read about using odin to go back to stock in the vibrant bible thread I mentioned earlier. Once you go back to stock you can receive ota updates from tmo if that's what you want or you can reroot and flash another custom rom. If you choose to flash another rom I would recommend reading every post on that rom's thread so you can learn from other's experiences. I would also recommend you keep reading the bible thread, theres a ton of good info there.
Good luck.
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willcwells said:
Almost all of those questions can be answered by reading the Tips and Tricks or Noob Guide threads. Those two threads have given me all the info I've ever needed for the Vibrant.
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Dude, THAT is why I do those stickies, thank you! So glad it helped man!
That was really helpful, thank you and I will be looking into this more little by little. But I also have 2 very specific questions:
1. Is it possible to turn an htc windows phone into an android phone?
2. will I lose everything if I push the flash clockwork recovery in the rom manager app? I haven't done it yet but everything I've read has told me to do it the first time. I have the bionix rom running and don't remember flashing the clockwork recovery thing EVER. have I messed up or can I just do it whenever? And is it true thats how you make a nandroid backup because thats what I've read.
I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out, and being patient with me. You guys are the reason I love android. Thank you from your very lost, slowly learning, new friend.
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1. Is it possible to turn an htc windows phone into an androids phone?
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Depends on the phone, many do have android roms available. Just look up whatever windows phone you have in the forum section and if there has been some android development there will most likely be a section in the thread devoted just to android development.
You need to odin back and start from new
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[Q] Some questions about BL and flashing too

Hey guys, nice section you have here. I've been reading all about the Atrix and have a couple of questions to confirm what i'm assuming.
Oh yeah, is the Atrix and Atrix 4G the same? I'm assuming so as i've not seen different specs or sections for it here, just wanted to be 100000% sure as i've never owned an android phone!
If i keep the Bootloader locked, is it impossible for me to hard brick the device? Seeing as though i can't freely flash to a lower firmware? (not including things like upgrading to official firmware and running out of battery etc, that's a sure fire way of bricking
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Just say i'm on 2.3.4 and i'm rooted and unlocked, if i flash CM7, can i reflash something like Alien or MIUI (when or if it gets ported) without ANY chance of a hard brick (AKA does it touch the bootloader and/or does it carry the risks which the flashing of a lower firmware does?)
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Would LauncherPro and other theme programs be available across the wide range of ROMS as long as i'm rooted?
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Thanks for your time guys, i'm busy reading up and watching the few videos on youtube (seriously, hardly anyone makes videos about this phone, what's up with that? ) I do have a cold right about now so will take a rest but i can't sleep knowing that i may soon be getting this phone (if my order for a Samsung Galaxy S (1) is not accepted by Vodafone and their stringent credit checks!)
Thanks again guys, hope to see you around soon!
The phone will be on T-Mobile in the UK. Hopefully!
First and last bump! I was wondering if installing LauncherPro would have any negative effects on the speed of the phone? It's dual core and has 1gb ram so i'm thinking the new launcher would not cause any lag but has anyone tried this and found out that it does indeed lag?
No not impossible, i would think it would be easier to brick with a locked bl.
Yes you can reflash, and no you won't get the "lower fw brick".
Yes you can use other launchers, always.
Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thats right, the unlocked bootloader is the best way to go if you plan on flashing because of custom recovery.
Yes most likely its about the same process BUT, most if not all ROMs will have instructions on how to flash - make sure you read and follow them dont just "do what you did last time".
Prob the easiest way to swap between ROMs easily is to keep nandroid backups for them through cwm.
As far as it being easier to flash the next ROM because you can "keep things from the last flash".. NO you dont want to keep anything between flashing, meaning you should most likley always wipe data, cache & such unless otherwise specified (sometimes upgrading ROMs from one version to the next you can use a "no wipe" upgrade).
Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Nandroid backup is a backup through CWM, it is not a seperate app. As far as having to install CWM each time.. No you wont have to, the recovery stays but it should be updated when available, unless stated otherwise. Rom Manager will install the latest version of CWM for you. Doing a backup in CWM is known as a Nandroid backup.
Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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I dont know of any risks to Nandroid backup, only benefits. I have returned to a Nandroid backup on my Captivate but not on the Atrix, i have created a Nandroid backup on (stock) Atrix and recommend do the same jic. I believe you can return to that stock back up (after flashing) if needed but first check out the section on fruitcakes, there is more info along these lines in that thread.
Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Dont worry it makes more and more sense as you learn and play with it. Your assumption of fruitcakes is my understanding as well. I agree that nandroid backup/restore seams a slightly easier method than fruitcakes, but thought I would include the fruitcake methods for you seeing as how you were concerned of a risk with nand, plus the more reading the better. Also NandBacks do take up a good amount of storage space, but are worth it jic. As long as you read you should be just fine, reading here on xda is the best thing you can do to keep from screwing something up. Good luck.
Thank you mate, i really appreciate your time! If i wasn't so ill, i'd be understanding more i think, but i have to look away every few seconds or else my eyes will explode haha, i guess i'm not getting the Galaxy S anymore, i hope i don't regret it! And with the method of hiding the unlocked bootloader, i'm hoping IF anything bad happens, then i still have a chance of tricking the tricksters who gave us these locked down phones in the first place! Android was supposed to be free and open I'm just glad at the thought of getting rid of my iPhone 3g + iTunes + Quicktime.
Also, in your opinion, is ADW EX better than Launcher Pro?

Reverting to Gingerbread from ICS

I've been having some issues with constant reboots and phone signal strength after installing ICS. I have tried both methods (fastboot flashes and CWM flash) and still have the same problems.
Unfortunately, I'm a newbie, and was an idiot and did not create a backup.
I would like to be able to revert to the last stable official Gingerbread. Any recommendations on version to revert to? I'm been searching here for hours, and every time I think I find a good thread on how to do this, the links to the files are all dead.
Can someone please steer me in the right direction.
Also, again, I am willingly admitting that I'm an idiot for not making the backup in the first place. I saw that so many people were having no issues at all, so I assumed I would not either.
Thanks.
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I've been having some issues with constant reboots and phone signal strength after installing ICS. I have tried both methods (fastboot flashes and CWM flash) and still have the same problems.
Unfortunately, I'm a newbie, and was an idiot and did not create a backup.
I would like to be able to revert to the last stable official Gingerbread. Any recommendations on version to revert to? I'm been searching here for hours, and every time I think I find a good thread on how to do this, the links to the files are all dead.
Can someone please steer me in the right direction.
Also, again, I am willingly admitting that I'm an idiot for not making the backup in the first place. I saw that so many people were having no issues at all, so I assumed I would not either.
Thanks.
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I recommend you the ROMs NottachTrix, it has Aroma installer and lets you configure it to your own taste. Guess this one is the best, if not you could go with a stock GB, search for fruitcakes (don't like them because the bloatware).
I'm assuming that you already have or know how to install a recovery. If it's not the case, let me know and I'll help you.
Thanks. I have CWM loaded so I shouldn't have an issue.
I think I would have the best luck with a stock ROM for now. The problem is finding a stock unlocked ROM for GB that still has a valid link. 90% of the links I'm coming across here including fruitcakes are all dead links.
http://samcripp.com/files/
you can find fruitcakes here. works from your phone or computer.
be sure to thank Sam Cripp for hosting the files for us. and the project in the first place.
Thanks. I was able to restore back to GB, but unfortunately still have the same signal strength issues.
have you tried to flash a new radio? there are plenty of radios on that website as well.

[Q] Basic Questions Regarding Root and Things

Hey all,
I should be upgrading my EVO OG to the new LTE model late next week. But I just wanted to get some of the basic questions out of the way. I'm sure there's already existing threads like this, but the forums can be difficult to search sometimes. So apologies if this stuff has been answered 20 times already.
1. Is root achievable on all known versions of the stock OS?
2. S-off is limited to Hboot x.15 and earlier correct?
3. Since the batter is not removable how do I force the phone off in case of a boot loop or other problem
4. Is the partition mod available for this phone? It was a very useful tool with my old Hero and the EVO OG.
5. What is the preferred recovery?
6. Are there any details that I should know about or fixes I should apply right away?
Thanks for answering these questions guys. Again I apologize if this stuff has been answered before.
1. So long as the hboot can be unlocked the phone can be customized.
2. S-OFF is only available for hboot 1.12 and the is a toolkit being worked on right now for downgrade. It's been achieved and is being refined.
3. Hold power for 10 seconds and phone will reboot.
4. Not familiar with the particular mod you mentioned.
5. Twrp by TeamWin, right now there are a few issues with the latest 2.3 but 2.2 is still available.
6. Only issue is that unlocked phones with HBOOT 1.15 and higher must flash the kernel separately, there are several methods of doing so. Check my thread Don't Panic for all kinds of info
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Hey all,
I should be upgrading my EVO OG to the new LTE model late next week. But I just wanted to get some of the basic questions out of the way. I'm sure there's already existing threads like this, but the forums can be difficult to search sometimes. So apologies if this stuff has been answered 20 times already.
1. Is root achievable on all known versions of the stock OS?
2. S-off is limited to Hboot x.15 and earlier correct?
3. Since the batter is not removable how do I force the phone off in case of a boot loop or other problem
4. Is the partition mod available for this phone? It was a very useful tool with my old Hero and the EVO OG.
5. What is the preferred recovery?
6. Are there any details that I should know about or fixes I should apply right away?
Thanks for answering these questions guys. Again I apologize if this stuff has been answered before.
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1. Yes u can root
2. S-off for all hboot's is possible now. Making it easier for the non-dev masses is a wip.
3. Boot loops or freezes never happen to me like on og EVO. But to simulate a battery pull hold down power for 10 seconds and wait til capacitive buttons stop blinking to release. To boot into bootloader hold power and volume down.
4. Not sure. Never had a use for it. Will need to check and get back to u.
5. Team Win Recovery Project TWRP. CWM does not agree w EVO LTE. Likes to corrupt misc/partition.
6. The multitasking mod is absolutely necessary for me. But I use Flex360's stock w/ goodies rom where it is baked in. There's another mod by zeppelinrocks that works as well.
Hope that does u well.
Thanks for the answers, I'm this will come in handy once I get the phone and start playing around with it.
I haven't heard of the multitasking mod, I'll have to look that up.
The partition mod I mentioned was made by Firerat a few years back. I used it on my old Hero and EVO OG to change the size of the system, data, and cache partitions. Here's link to the EVO version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424&highlight=firerat
Here's one I forgot. To boot into recovery when the phone is off we press power and volume down like with other devices? Or is that changed with the EVO LTE?
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Thanks for the answers, I'm this will come in handy once I get the phone and start playing around with it.
I haven't heard of the multitasking mod, I'll have to look that up.
The partition mod I mentioned was made by Firerat a few years back. I used it on my old Hero and EVO OG to change the size of the system, data, and cache partitions. Here's link to the EVO version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424&highlight=firerat
Here's one I forgot. To boot into recovery when the phone is off we press power and volume down like with other devices? Or is that changed with the EVO LTE?
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Most of the custom roms will have improved multitasking built in so you shouldn't have to worry about that.
You won't need the partition mod, this phone is a beast!!
The recovery entry procedure is the same as before.
Thanks cruise!
I figured that with the amount of memory the device has I wouldn't need to repartition. But it's been such a useful tool I thought I'd ask about it.
Is there a guide in the Don't Panic thread or anywhere else that explains flashing methods in detail? I've always been able to do everything through recovery and it seems that this device requires more use of Fastboot.
If I'm understanding what I've read correctly, we download a ROM and extract the boot.img. Flash the ROM through recovery then use Fastboot to flash the boot.img? What about just flashing a stand alone kernel?
You guys don't have to explain everything here. A link to a thread would be enough.
Again thanks for the help. All this info will come in handy soon!
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Thanks cruise!
I figured that with the amount of memory the device has I wouldn't need to repartition. But it's been such a useful tool I thought I'd ask about it.
Is there a guide in the Don't Panic thread or anywhere else that explains flashing methods in detail? I've always been able to do everything through recovery and it seems that this device requires more use of Fastboot.
If I'm understanding what I've read correctly, we download a ROM and extract the boot.img. Flash the ROM through recovery then use Fastboot to flash the boot.img? What about just flashing a stand alone kernel?
You guys don't have to explain everything here. A link to a thread would be enough.
Again thanks for the help. All this info will come in handy soon!
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Yep, you've got it. This thread outlines the process of flashing via fastboot as well as some other options. The same applies to flashing kernels with a ROM or standalone.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
Some roms like MeanRom, have written a boot script to automatically install the kernel when the rom installs so no need to fastboot the kernel with MeanRom. Fastbooting kernels is only needed if you are s-on. There has been a major breakthrough in achieving s-off in the last couple of days and they are working on a refined method for everyone's use.
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Fastbooting kernels is only needed if you are s-on.
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Good to know, I was under the impression that it didn't matter if you were s-off or s-on.
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Good to know, I was under the impression that it didn't matter if you were s-off or s-on.
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That is one of the benefits of being s-off, you can write to boot partitions.
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Well I think I'm set. I've been checking other threads and reviewing various guides and descriptions. Provided all goes well and I get the phone next week I should be able to do everything I want with it.
If I have anymore questions I'll be sure to post them.
Again, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, I really appreciate it
Update: I got my LTEVO today. Rooted, unlocked, and flashed MeanROM with no serious problems.I just wanted to thank you guys again, the info you gave me really helped.
So thanks!

TWRP (custom recovery) ROM of stock, pre-rooted PH1 update

This is a Backup of the PH1 ROM's system and modem partitions. This is a Pre-Rooted ROM with the SD Card write permissions fix. This is different from my other post in those two differences.
You will need a custom recovery to install this ROM. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/note...lipop-t3089382)
Always perform the appropriate backups and other steps just in case something messes up. If you are on Lollipop, you should be able to just flash and go without any data loss (except custom system apps), but no promises.
Extract the folder (ES File Explorer or 7 Zipper) to "extsdcard/TWRP/backups/[serial number]" then boot into recovery and restore the image. The easiest way to get this folder is to simply perform a backup first, then unzip this folder next to the one for the backup you just created.
I didn't factory reset prior to this backup because it's just system partitions, so let me know if there's anything weird.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2iEgzRTFjrQa2JEbE1DSE9qNHM
Here's the Odin ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/rom-odin-ph1-update-t3463178/page1
Here's my non-rooted TWRP ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...stom-recovery-rom-stock-rooted-t3449321/page1
Still 5.0 this is probably just a security update
RDF
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SM-N900P-SPRINT/PH1.rdf
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Still 5.0 this is probably just a security update
RDF
http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SM-N900P-SPRINT/PH1.rdf
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Yep, just a security update most likely. Looks like some of the stock (Sprint) apps may have been updated as well . The update file was only about 190 megabytes if I remember correctly.
Quick question on updating modem & firmware.. I'm stock rooted ok2, and i dont have this update yet. I am working toward flashing the newly released and highly anticipated DL Modded N5N7 v4 which requires the PH1 updated firmware.
Do I need to ODIN flash the update files from the other PHI ROM thread or can I just do a full wipe and flash this backup with TWRP?
Thanks in advance.
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MeAtKeRtN said:
Quick question on updating modem & firmware.. I'm stock rooted ok2, and i dont have this update yet. I am working toward flashing the newly released and highly anticipated DL Modded N5N7 v4 which requires the PH1 updated firmware.
Do I need to ODIN flash the update files from the other PHI ROM thread or can I just do a full wipe and flash this backup with TWRP?
Thanks in advance.
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You can just flash the rom you want and keep your current bootloader/modem. But it's always suggested to keep current with any bootloader/modem, that the OP mentioned. That way if there is a issue with the install, it wouldn't be that.
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You can just flash the rom you want and keep your current bootloader/modem. But it's always suggested to keep current with any bootloader/modem, that the OP mentioned. That way if there is a issue with the install, it wouldn't be that.
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The preferable answer would have been 'NO' or 'I'M NOT SURE' as a direct answer to my very specific question... as I now have a phone that doesn't make phone calls.
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The preferable answer would have been 'NO' or 'I'M NOT SURE' as a direct answer to my very specific question... as I now have a phone that doesn't make phone calls.
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Hey, I've seen you in a few threads and figured I ask before I made the same mistake. I'm looking to upgrade to DL Modded N5N7 v4 like yourself. I have a exploding Note 7 still and I'm anticipating being blacklisted at some point. As crazy as it sounds I like my Note 3's snappiness and everything else over the 7. My issue is my Note 7 radio gets 4g in my job and my Note 3 radio is 3g or spotty. I'm sure my modem and baseband is outdated and may help being updated
I'm on a older Moars Rom Baseband Nk4 android version 4.4.2. Did you figure out where things went bad. I was thinking of following these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/rom-odin-ph1-update-t3463178 don't want to mess this up.
What did you use and what should you have used?
Thanks
Lyvewire said:
Hey, I've seen you in a few threads and figured I ask before I made the same mistake. I'm looking to upgrade to DL Modded N5N7 v4 like yourself. I have a exploding Note 7 still and I'm anticipating being blacklisted at some point. As crazy as it sounds I like my Note 3's snappiness and everything else over the 7. My issue is my Note 7 radio gets 4g in my job and my Note 3 radio is 3g or spotty. I'm sure my modem and baseband is outdated and may help being updated
I'm on a older Moars Rom Baseband Nk4 android version 4.4.2. Did you figure out where things went bad. I was thinking of following these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/rom-odin-ph1-update-t3463178 don't want to mess this up.
What did you use and what should you have used?
Thanks
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My mistake was following bad advice and flashing the TWRP Backup of PH1 in the OP of this thread instead of ODIN flashing the full ROM-ODIN-PH1- Update- t3463178.
I was able to get TWRP to restore my backup to OK2. From there I did a full wipe 3x and ODIN flashed the full PH1 update, immediately rooted with CFautoroot and reinstalled TWRP 2.8.7.0.
From there I followed the OP instructions in the DL Modded N5N7 thread which require the ROM, Kernel Cleaner, MVNO Buzbee2, Sprint VVM, and I installed the DL MM UIX Kernel.
The ROM and kernel are both really well put together except my mobile network connection to Sprint has been intermittent... the phone was stuck roaming and was connecting in spurts with Verizon, sprint, or the network was unavailable.
I just dirty flashed the Rom, Kernel, and MVNO fix an hour or so ago and the APNs seem to be sticking now. We'll see.
I have three Note 3's and each has its own quirky 'personality'- not especially playing nicely with most of the Port ROMs available these days. Hope this answers your questions and helps someone else trying to keep their Note 3 thriving.
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The preferable answer would have been 'NO' or 'I'M NOT SURE' as a direct answer to my very specific question... as I now have a phone that doesn't make phone calls.
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I am not trying to start any trouble, but from reading your comment it seems you are suggesting I gave you bad or wrong advice. So I want to explain myself just in case it was a misunderstanding. All roms are capable of being flashed with older bootloaders and modems. But the proper thing to do, is to always be up to date with all bootloader/modem files. This way you will not run into any problems. Now I didn't mention anything about flashing the OP'S twrp backup method. I figured you may have been experienced enough to flash these BL/modem files from a source like sammobile. Then proceed to flash your rom of choice. As you experienced you lost your signal. It may have been a few reasons why this happen. 1. The way the OP mentioned to flash wasn't meant for your phone. Every phone response differently. 2. The rom for whatever reason can only be used if you dirty flashed over your current system. This will not be the only time you may have to do it this way. So instead of being sarcastic with your reply, maybe try and ask the one who is helping you to explain themselves more. We are all here to help each other, and by no means was my response to your question was meant to harm your phone.
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I am not trying to start any trouble, but from reading your comment it seems you are suggesting I gave you bad or wrong advice. So I want to explain myself just in case it was a misunderstanding. All roms are capable of being flashed with older bootloaders and modems. But the proper thing to do, is to always be up to date with all bootloader/modem files. This way you will not run into any problems. Now I didn't mention anything about flashing the OP'S twrp backup method. I figured you may have been experienced enough to flash these BL/modem files from a source like sammobile. Then proceed to flash your rom of choice. As you experienced you lost your signal. It may have been a few reasons why this happen. 1. The way the OP mentioned to flash wasn't meant for your phone. Every phone response differently. 2. The rom for whatever reason can only be used if you dirty flashed over your current system. This will not be the only time you may have to do it this way. So instead of being sarcastic with your reply, maybe try and ask the one who is helping you to explain themselves more. We are all here to help each other, and by no means was my response to your question was meant to harm your phone.
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No misunderstanding here... I asked a specific either/or question directly related to the thread topic (twrp custom recovery version) and you either misunderstood my question or decided it required an answer other than a 'yes or no' As a result of your longwinded answer, I lost several hours working through how to get a signal back on my phone. Was pretty annoying.
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No misunderstanding here... I asked a specific either/or question directly related to the thread topic (twrp custom recovery version) and you either misunderstood my question or decided it required an answer other than a 'yes or no' As a result of your longwinded answer, I lost several hours working through how to get a signal back on my phone. Was pretty annoying.
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I never knew giving someone detailed information was a problem. It's funny how I never had an issue with the install, but you did. It seems you lack enough experience to realize a few things. But I will make it a point to never help you again. Whether that's to long-winded or not for you, oh well.
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MeAtKeRtN said:
No misunderstanding here... I asked a specific either/or question directly related to the thread topic (twrp custom recovery version) and you either misunderstood my question or decided it required an answer other than a 'yes or no' As a result of your longwinded answer, I lost several hours working through how to get a signal back on my phone. Was pretty annoying.
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Did you get it all figured out?
I did get it figured out. Wasn't much more than an unnecessary inconvenience that someone else might be able to avoid.
Ok, so something weird...
Im running KK4.4.2 with the NC5 baseband on Sprint.
I upgraded my TWRP to 2.780 to flash the recovery both first time 'dirty flashing' and the 2nd time doing a facory wipe.
I removed the battery after the flash.
When I reboot, the phone stays on the Yellow Sprint screen and the LED pusles blue slowly. So far been doing it for 15 mintues.
What am I missing?
Dave
Unidave199 said:
Ok, so something weird...
Im running KK4.4.2 with the NC5 baseband on Sprint.
I upgraded my TWRP to 2.780 to flash the recovery both first time 'dirty flashing' and the 2nd time doing a facory wipe.
I removed the battery after the flash.
When I reboot, the phone stays on the Yellow Sprint screen and the LED pusles blue slowly. So far been doing it for 15 mintues.
What am I missing?
Dave
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Give it 30 minutes? It seriously takes a long time. Are you sure you want to upgrade to lollipop? In just asking because you've been on Kit Kat long after support for lollipop or this phone has long stopped. I'd suggest downloading the latest Odin and flashing that instead, unless there is something here you wanted? I'm rooted on PL1 and have no issues other than my phone being as old as it is and how many times it's been flashed.
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Give it 30 minutes? It seriously takes a long time. Are you sure you want to upgrade to lollipop? In just asking because you've been on Kit Kat long after support for lollipop or this phone has long stopped. I'd suggest downloading the latest Odin and flashing that instead, unless there is something here you wanted? I'm rooted on PL1 and have no issues other than my phone being as old as it is and how many times it's been flashed.
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30 minutes? Woah that is a long time. Ok I will give it a try sometime when I go to bed.
I am mainly trying to get the PL1 update and not mess with Odin if I can get around it. I would like to try and port the Darklord Marshmellow ROM and take advantage of built in google assistant
So I thought I would try them. And always get back if I need to but wanted to keep the PL1 modem updates.
I only have one problem with one other phone user... She doesnt always get my texts and I dont always get hers. I dont know if others arent getting them and just dont know but my 1 friend I text a lot so she notices when there is a gap.
Anyways. Just feeling out how I can maximize this phone's performance. NO plans on changing phones anytime soon.
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30 minutes? Woah that is a long time. Ok I will give it a try sometime when I go to bed.
I am mainly trying to get the PL1 update and not mess with Odin if I can get around it. I would like to try and port the Darklord Marshmellow ROM and take advantage of built in google assistant
So I thought I would try them. And always get back if I need to but wanted to keep the PL1 modem updates.
I only have one problem with one other phone user... She doesnt always get my texts and I dont always get hers. I dont know if others arent getting them and just dont know but my 1 friend I text a lot so she notices when there is a gap.
Anyways. Just feeling out how I can maximize this phone's performance. NO plans on changing phones anytime soon.
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I still use my note 3. Granted not for main phone as I switched to iPhone, but I use it every day. I don't really know the hesitation of using Odin, but to each their own. If you did decide to use Odin, I'd flash the ROM, boot it, go to download mode again, flash TWRP, boot recovery (so it sticks and doesn't go back to stock recovery), flash SuperSU, done. You're rooted on PL1. Hopefully you have already backed up your text messages and other various things to either SDCard or something else. I'm not sure if that survives whether you wipe and flash clean or Odin. Depending on provider, that could be your issue with text messages. If you're with Sprint, check that you are on latest PRL. If not, make sure APN settings are correct.
If you're only looking for Assistant, I had it running on stock PL1. XDA did a blog post about enabling it in Lollipop, so once you upgrade, check it out. I couldn't stay on Marshmallow. Being that these are ports and not specifically built for our phone, I ran into issue with every single ROM either not being able to place calls, text (MMS actually), or wireless/data not working. No matter what I changed APN to, I would always have issues. Some do not. I just can't recommend a port when they haven't worked for me. Some roms have been abandoned, which meant if I found one that I could at least handle, it was so outdated that it was unusable (issues had arisen and the developer had moved on so they weren't being fixed). By handling a rom, I mean that after I upgraded to iPhone, I only needed wireless to work (to connect to hotspot) and it not go into a boot loop or crash all the time (some do). Those roms I have no idea if calls or text work because I wasn't using that. A lot have issues with wireless working.
One more thing you can try is to do a flash, wait about 30 minutes. If it still doesn't boot, pull the battery and reboot into recovery. Wipe data and cache and reboot again. It should boot. It'll still take a long time. Make sure you wait the 30 minutes before pulling the battery (it should have finished upgrading your system by then). Do note that first boot from now on will take forever no matter if it's a port or stock. Lollipop and higher take a long time to upgrade. I've only had 1 or 2 roms take around 5 minutes and that's because they were minimalist and without Google apps. The phone does get a little warm and uses a lot of battery, so I'd keep it plugged in.
Please report back if you got it to work and how. Like I said, I still use mine. I still visit this forum every day even though I've had an s5 and an s7 edge. I love this phone. I need to get mine replaced because I've worn it out: broken charger port so I have to make sure the cable is plugged in a certain way and I can't touch the phone while charging, side molding is broken off in places, some of my partitions can't be changed which means the memory is failing (not even Odin flashes correctly anymore let alone custom roms). But, it still keeps on ticking.
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I still use my note 3. Granted not for main phone as I switched to iPhone, but I use it every day. I don't really know the hesitation of using Odin, but to each their own. If you did decide to use Odin, I'd flash the ROM, boot it, go to download mode again, flash TWRP, boot recovery (so it sticks and doesn't go back to stock recovery), flash SuperSU, done. You're rooted on PL1. Hopefully you have already backed up your text messages and other various things to either SDCard or something else. I'm not sure if that survives whether you wipe and flash clean or Odin. Depending on provider, that could be your issue with text messages. If you're with Sprint, check that you are on latest PRL. If not, make sure APN settings are correct.
If you're only looking for Assistant, I had it running on stock PL1. XDA did a blog post about enabling it in Lollipop, so once you upgrade, check it out. I couldn't stay on Marshmallow. Being that these are ports and not specifically built for our phone, I ran into issue with every single ROM either not being able to place calls, text (MMS actually), or wireless/data not working. No matter what I changed APN to, I would always have issues. Some do not. I just can't recommend a port when they haven't worked for me. Some roms have been abandoned, which meant if I found one that I could at least handle, it was so outdated that it was unusable (issues had arisen and the developer had moved on so they weren't being fixed). By handling a rom, I mean that after I upgraded to iPhone, I only needed wireless to work (to connect to hotspot) and it not go into a boot loop or crash all the time (some do). Those roms I have no idea if calls or text work because I wasn't using that. A lot have issues with wireless working.
One more thing you can try is to do a flash, wait about 30 minutes. If it still doesn't boot, pull the battery and reboot into recovery. Wipe data and cache and reboot again. It should boot. It'll still take a long time. Make sure you wait the 30 minutes before pulling the battery (it should have finished upgrading your system by then). Do note that first boot from now on will take forever no matter if it's a port or stock. Lollipop and higher take a long time to upgrade. I've only had 1 or 2 roms take around 5 minutes and that's because they were minimalist and without Google apps. The phone does get a little warm and uses a lot of battery, so I'd keep it plugged in.
Please report back if you got it to work and how. Like I said, I still use mine. I still visit this forum every day even though I've had an s5 and an s7 edge. I love this phone. I need to get mine replaced because I've worn it out: broken charger port so I have to make sure the cable is plugged in a certain way and I can't touch the phone while charging, side molding is broken off in places, some of my partitions can't be changed which means the memory is failing (not even Odin flashes correctly anymore let alone custom roms). But, it still keeps on ticking.
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Come back to Android! We miss you!!!!
Yes I am backed up and also have a Titanium Backup of everything so I am pretty much covered... I have even backed up the backups to my PC!
You have much wisdom in what you are saying. I thought I would play around with some other ROM's and see what the potential is.
I hear good things about the Darklord Reborn by Midevil and JCorderno so thought I would investigate.
I am not opposed to using Odin, but I was at work, and no access to a computer so wanted to see if I could do the upgrade 'on the fly' since I am already rooted and with recovery.
Man, waiting 30 minutes for a phone to boot sounds like a anxiety attack waiting to happen! But still wanna give it a try.
As to your USB port. Have you thought of going wireless charging? I did and haven't looked back! You can get a wireless charging back and a case that will fit at...
for the charging back
https://smile.amazon.com/Samsung-Ga...=8-2&keywords=samsung+note+3+wireless+charger
for the case
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3KP156/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Clone Wars....
Just wanted to put out a big THANKS for this.. I broke my Note 3 after 2,433 days (long story) but had bought a stock spare on Ebay last year... Making the switch now, but your PH1 Flashable update is making it super easy!
To let everyone who needs to use this nowdays... you will need to Flash an older TWRP (I used 2.7.8) in order to allow the Modem partition to be overwritten. Then you can flash up to 3.x to load a Android 10 based rom.

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