Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but as far as I can tell, Verizon isn't lying about CarrierIQ not being on their phones, at least not the Rezound.
Mine tests clean. Completely stock, retail, s-on device.
The .apk by the discoverer of this threat is available here for those who are paranoid and want to check for themselves like me.
Haven't seen ANYONE with a Verizon Android device find it yet, but I would love to hear if any do. I'm new to Verizon, so I don't have a whole lot of trust in them yet and want to know if they're lying to us.
They may bake in their own variant or have another way of tracking, I don't want to speculate, but it isn't on my phone either.
They were talking about carrier IQ on the NBC News with Bryan Williams tonight.
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Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but as far as I can tell, Verizon isn't lying about CarrierIQ not being on their phones, at least not the Rezound.
Mine tests clean. Completely stock, retail, s-on device.
The .apk by the discoverer of this threat is available here for those who are paranoid and want to check for themselves like me.
Haven't seen ANYONE with a Verizon Android device find it yet, but I would love to hear if any do. I'm new to Verizon, so I don't have a whole lot of trust in them yet and want to know if they're lying to us.
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The apk will only work correctly on rooted phones the Dev said in an article I read today.
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Verizon phones don't have it.
So maybe we need to stalk some threads of rooted phones. I read on CNET today this from HTC, "Carrier IQ is required on devices by a number of U.S. carriers."
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So maybe we need to stalk some threads of rooted phones. I read on CNET today this from HTC, "Carrier IQ is required on devices by a number of U.S. carriers."
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You read correctly. However, Engadget has been in contact with most all of the phone manufacturers and carriers.
Verizon responded by stating that "Carrier IQ has never been installed on any Verizon phone. "
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You read correctly. However, Engadget has been in contact with most all of the phone manufacturers and carriers.
Verizon responded by stating that "Carrier IQ has never been installed on any Verizon phone. "
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Here is the actual Endagadget story.
Pretty interesting read... Another reason to like Big Red more than T-Mo. (Now... if we could only steal the Magenta chick...)
Wow If I read that story correctly all the big carriers except Verizon uses it!! Score for them and sucks to be on those other ones!!
didiwags said:
Wow If I read that story correctly all the big carriers except Verizon uses it!! Score for them and sucks to be on those other ones!!
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out the VZW uses something similar, but far more insidious and difficult to detect.
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I wouldn't be surprised to find out the VZW uses something similar, but far more insidious and difficult to detect.
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I agree. VZW can be sneaky!
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I agree. VZW can be sneaky!
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That's why I'm nervous. I've been with them a month and besides their network being tons better, I'm not impressed. With all the bloatware crap they put on this thing it's hard to tell what's what. I can't wait for S-Off and a good AOSP Rom.
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Here is the actual Endagadget story.
Pretty interesting read... Another reason to like Big Red more than T-Mo. (Now... if we could only steal the Magenta chick...)
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teases she just needs to do the.commercials naked..I wish this was England lol
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They had simular tracking files on the Incredible but NilsP always removed them in his roms.
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They had simular tracking files on the Incredible but NilsP always removed them in his roms.
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Wasn't that an HTC file tho?
Yes, a HTC file on a VZW phone. VZW could have removed it like we did.
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There is a new app in the market that will find carrier IQ. Still under development.
Voodoo Simple Carrier IQ Detector 0.3 Works on rooted and unrooted phones.
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I'm not surprised, believe it or not, that Verizon doesn't use CarrierIQ. Reason being they were one of the advocates for Net Neutrality. As it's been mentioned before, all the more reason to like Big Red.
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I'm not surprised, believe it or not, that Verizon doesn't use CarrierIQ. Reason being they were one of the advocates for Net Neutrality. As it's been mentioned before, all the more reason to like Big Red.
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You are misinformed, Verizon is not an advocate for it, and has filed lawsuits to BLOCK Net Neutrality. Net Neutrality is NOT a good thing for end users.
When the phone is rooted the Devs can usually find the malware and remove it.
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So, looking to upgrade and kick Sprint to the curb after 12 years with Nextel, and Ting is looking like a really fine service as far as four line family plans go. I'm kicking around my HTC Hero, (CM7, gonna try ICS Beta for it's last huzzah.) and was looking for a more powerful Android. Was thinking about getting a feature phone or a mifi, and complementing it with a Galaxy Player. But the Photon looks really, really nice all of a sudden, with 4G and GSM compatibility. Toss in the best specs on a month-to-month phone that I've seen, I'm seriously considering dropping $550 on this thing. Please talk me out of it?
I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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^ Yeah, I know that. Kinda hoping that might be unblocked by the time I'm interested in it, if I want to jump to T-Mobile in the future. I know it's a long shot, but it would be nice to have.
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I don't know if you are in the states, but US gsm towers are blocked.
Edit: The photon is featured in their front page, and it gives incorrect/conflicting information about the phone.
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talking about the awesome 1.2ghz cpu we have?
i sent them numerous emails about it :/ lady was real nice but kept claiming they had fixed it
Seriously? Probably should have caught that earlier with all the looking up I did on the phone.
Just get Ting are you in Canada?
Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
Experience with Ting thus far...
Hi all,
I recently changed carriers from AT&T (using Motorola Atrix 4G) to Ting (Motorola Photon 4G) and I have recently unlocked the bootloader (yes, I lost 4G connectivity), rooted, and installed the latest version of Rocko ROM with Alien Theme.
Everything has worked out so far and I am having a good experience with the device and with Ting Mobile, from their no wait phone service policy, to their dashboard web interface. I can't really speak to the relative degree of future proofing the Photon may have compared to other phones, I am just happy that I could get away from paying so much for a similar tier of service at AT&T and not necessarily have to compromise on a phone, though not being able to use GSM towers with a prepaid SIM card is a bummer, but otherwise, so far so good. Take care all.
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Stateside. And with the Photon kinda being oversold on the Ting website, and not that great a bump from the Conquer, dual core nonwithstanding, I'm still a little confuzled on what I want.
How future-proof would you say this thing is, regarding still being competitive in the next couple years? Tend to run them until they dead or unserviceable, and if blow a massive chunk of my tax return, might as well make it last a while.
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No phone is future proof the way things are flowing manufacturers are cracking phones out of their ass every 3 months or so. You have to look at the development threads that will tell you how active the phone is on the developers on xda are and that should give you an insight on how worth it is.
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Thanks all. Think I'm gonna go with the Optimus for now and wait for my laptop to start losing to the newer phones before I drop big money. Should kick the crap out of my Hero, and I'm happy if it can run Peggle and Netflix when it comes down to it. Thanks all.
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Never heard of Ting until this post. Does anyone have a system dump of a ting photon?
There's something interesting in that system dump I believe.
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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TING??? just checked them out, no thank you, $6 a month just for my phone being active?????......hog wash
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Thy are legit
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Sprint MVNO no different flashfile
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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I disagree. Just because it's a mobile virtual network operator doesn't mean the the files are the same. On the contrary, I'd bet anyone using one of these device could confirm their notification bar and lock screen show Ting as the carrier, not sprint, which means at a minimum the framework-res/eri.xml has been edited, meaning it's not the same file despite being on "technically" the same network.
I'd like to see a system dump of one of these. I think there are magic elves locked inside
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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They are running the same sbf as sprint
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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Thy are legit
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what?? i'm not saying they aren't. i'm saying that it a waste of money, to pay them $6 a month plus whatever it costs to not have unlimited anything to have a phone, plus they're a sprint child company like boost mobile and virgin mobile, so your better off just staying with sprint to begin with
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Yep, looks that way. I spoke to a ting "tech specialist" who confirmed they use a carrier forced profile for network services
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lol I was the one that told you that ;P
First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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Hmm, so what will be next? They must have a big plan. I can't wait for some news.
Sounds like definitely plan to start making their own phones. Come on Motorola nexus!!!!!!
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I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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valentinoh said:
I hope something big and new. Why else, buy it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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access to patents to tell Apple and M$ to suck it.
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You would be absoutly correct, Google and Larry Page could care less about Motorola or a cell phone. What they do care about is the 6000 (or is it 16,000?) patents that Motorola owns! Right now, Apple is sueing everyone for infringements, thats getting read to change real fast!!!
I dont know if you guys know this, Motorola was around L-O-N-G before Sammy, HTC, Apple, Noika, all of them. They held all these patents but never really enforced them for whatever reason. If you remember, Apple went after Motorola with its Lawyer Goons with this Paten crap. I guess Motorola did not have the balls to fight, but Larry Page has bigger Goons! F**k, motorola has patent on the old bag phone of the late 80's! So if they every come back........
Correct - this is all about now owning patents.
Means little or nothing about current phones.
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Amen, brothers! Praise Larry & Sergey!
My Photon is now officially pulled from eBay (for at least a few days) just in case Google decides to earn our love & loyalty forever by unlocking our bootloaders ASAP
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lol
by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
valentinoh said:
First order of business.....
please unlock bootloader with working 4g.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/05/weve-acquired-motorola-mobility.html?m=1
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i couldn't agree with you more. i am really looking forward to having ics... either by update of by unlocked bootloader and flashing cm9
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
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by field testing a new bootloader or at the very least a new bootloader unlock tool? cuz im sure that wont take a few months to pass carrier testing etc...
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yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Boost?
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redninja007 said:
yeah i hope it will be soon cant wait to unlock with working 4g...or unlock with boost
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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Does that include Virgin Mobile? Haven't heard of a successful swap to that yet.
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I guess that could be real possible. If I remember right they use Sprint's towers.
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
I hope I'm wrong but I really doubt this will affect prior devices like the Photon, Atrix, etc.
I can imagine future devices having prompt updates, perhaps vanilla android, but seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
seems unlikely they'd suddenly decide to move the ICS Q4 update to sooner out of the bottom of their hearts.
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Expecting ICS sooner is unrealistic. Expecting unlocked bootloaders for existing phones so we can do it ourselves is another matter entirely.
As far as carrier approval goes, remember that there's a fundamental difference culturally between Motorola and Google. Motorola wouldn't even contemplate releasing an unlocker unless the carriers demanded and paid for it. Google will have its lawyers read the sales & maintenance contract it has with the carriers, and do it anyway as long as there's no clause in that contract explicitly prohibiting them from doing it.
In practical terms, that probably means Sprint and T-Mobile will have official unlockers within weeks, and AT&T & Verizon will never get them. However, I'll bet there will be some VERY interesting tidbits of info in the Sprint unlockers that might prove useful to someone at XDA trying to write one for a Verizon phone... ;-)
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Guys, here is the most informative article I have read on the subject from AndroidPolice. This guy is a Law Student in California and explains the good and the bad of the marriage. Enjoy!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-look-back-at-the-deal-and-what-happens-next/
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as long add they unlock my bootloader so i can have a blurless ics rom i think id be pretty dang happy at least until jellybean comes out lol
#ICS-lessMotorolaElectrify, ThanksMotorolaForYourIgnorance
tnx
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Lol you can put the photon on pretty much any carrier now. Atm I have my photon on page plus (verizon). I'm pretty sure boost is on the sprint network so 3g or 4g might work (as long as your boot loader is locked). To get on another cdma carrier all you got to do for the most part is flash alother prl.
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tnx for the info... im going to look into it i still have 6 months before my contract with sprint will end.so i still have a lot of time to figure this out
Looked through quite a few pages and haven't seen this asked. Unfortunately I can't put up with the call problems of the Gnex. I just use my phone too much for work. Was considering getting the s 3 under warranty replacement if they allow it. Does anyone know if can be rooted and unlocked?
It's not even available yet........
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It's not even available yet........
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Genius in the house. I can't even count the number of time a device has been rooted before available. The international S3 was one of them.
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Genius in the house. I can't even count the number of time a device has been rooted before available. The international S3 was one of them.
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Since NO ONE HAS an S4 variant of this device yet, re-read my post again.
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Since NO ONE HAS an S4 variant of this device yet, re-read my post again.
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Re read my post again
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I don't troll much but you are an idiot. Re read my post again
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What part of no one has this phone yet do you not understand? How can it be rooted or unlocked when Samsung hasn't released one yet? Have you not been following how tightly Samsung has been keeping these things under wraps??
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Looked through quite a few pages and haven't seen this asked. Unfortunately I can't put up with the call problems of the Gnex. I just use my phone too much for work. Was considering getting the s 3 under warranty replacement if they allow it. Does anyone know if can be rooted and unlocked?
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Good luck getting the S3 as a warranty replacement because its not going to happen, the phone hasn't been released no one has one to mess with or anything so as of now it is unknown. If it was rooted I'm sure it would have been posted already all over different forums
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bc760 said:
Good luck getting the S3 as a warranty replacement because its not going to happen, the phone hasn't been released no one has one to mess with or anything so as of now it is unknown. If it was rooted I'm sure it would have been posted already all over different forums
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Kinda what I figured but thought I would ask in case I had missed something.
Thanks for the luck I'll need it but the guy at the Verizon store today hinted that I might have a chance.
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What part of no one has this phone yet do you not understand? How can it be rooted or unlocked when Samsung hasn't released one yet? Have you not been following how tightly Samsung has been keeping these things under wraps??
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Explain how the international version was rooted before available..... just saying it happens all of the time
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Kinda what I figured but thought I would ask in case I had missed something.
Thanks for the luck I'll need it but the guy at the Verizon store today hinted that I might have a chance.
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Yeah guys/girls at Verizon stores are stupider than my door knob, example went in to the store today to get a 4G LTE sim card for my thunderbolt that's been sitting in my night stand and now my sister wants to use and the lady and guy both working said that not only I needed to bring the device in but now there's a fee for the sim card :what:
I attempted to get the S3 as a replacement and from my understanding the only way it would be possible is if there was a certified like new device available.
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bc760 said:
Yeah guys/girls at Verizon stores are stupider than my door knob, example went in to the store today to get a 4G LTE sim card for my thunderbolt that's been sitting in my night stand and now my sister wants to use and the lady and guy both working said that not only I needed to bring the device in but now there's a fee for the sim card :what:
I attempted to get the S3 as a replacement and from my understanding the only way it would be possible is if there was a certified like new device available.
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Hmmm... I have a cracked screen and was thinking of using my insurance anyways. I wonder if I bring it in brand new and never even been taken out of the box if they would replace it that way? One could argue it's close to being the same phone to someone who doesn't really know the difference
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First of all, the phone has already been released in Europe and parts of Asia for some time. Second, a while back somebody leaked the official samsung software rom for the S3, and hackers made quick work of it and had a root method within a day (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-rooted-stock-rom-leaked/). If you google "samsung s3 root" you will find lots of pages telling you how to root. Here's one example of such a site: http://theunlockr.com/2012/05/26/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s3-smartphone/
I know people are saying that you cannot get a S3 as a replacement but in my situation they did give me an early upgrade to a RAZR Maxx. I had to pay 200 for it but I at least got a phone with good signal. I asked about the S3 as an option and the csr said I could if I was willing to wait. I had another upgrade coming so I had already preordered the S3. My wife is getting the RAZR MAXX and she is thrilled.
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First of all, the phone has already been released in Europe and parts of Asia for some time. Second, a while back somebody leaked the official samsung software rom for the S3, and hackers made quick work of it and had a root method within a day (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-rooted-stock-rom-leaked/). If you google "samsung s3 root" you will find lots of pages telling you how to root. Here's one example of such a site: http://theunlockr.com/2012/05/26/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s3-smartphone/
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Umm no. The CDMA/LTE version from Verizon has NOT been released anywhere yet. It's totally different than the one you are talking about.
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I think China Telecom may also release it at about the same time, and it will be CDMA.
Its a samsung so 99% Yes, Though give it a few weeks, it'll be up to 100% and then mmmm aokp
from what i've heard all of us in north america (canada, America, will get the exact slab of hardware, Also at&t's source was just released tonight so sit tight maybe by the end of this week its gonna be rooted!)
Here is proof that phones get rooted before release all the time. ATT, Sprint, and T-Mobile S3s' all have been rooted before anyone has the phone. I'm sure that Verizon's is just around the corner.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ooted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Here is proof that phones get rooted before release all the time. ATT, Sprint, and T-Mobile S3s' all have been rooted before anyone has the phone. I'm sure that Verizon's is just around the corner.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ooted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Reported.
And for your information. Sine the other US versions are out your post is invalid anyway.
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Reported.
And for your information. Sine the other US versions are out your post is invalid anyway.
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No they are not
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726960
No they are not dumbass
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Yes they are. Reported. Again.
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Well its the 24 and still not a word from big red... Has anyone tried any version on Verizon network? International/sprint//tmobile anything at all. This feels just like the note og release for me
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Well its the 24 and still not a word from big red... Has anyone tried any version on Verizon network? International/sprint//tmobile anything at all. This feels just like the note og release for me
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If it's not released, how would somebody use that version...
LordRalh3, Other versions won't work on Verizon's network...
computingwarren, People got their hands on it at the NYC event last night.
Comp.... The same way people use the international version in the us, or the tmobile on att... I wasn't asking if someone had the Verizon version.
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Comp.... The same way people use the international version in the us, or the tmobile on att... I wasn't asking if someone had the Verizon version.
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Again, how are they going to use a GSM device on Verizon? Verizon is a CDMA network primarily, with LTE being the only type of GSM service they have. Unless you have some magic radio dust, you need to a VZW device to use VZW's network.
Oh so trolling me means the cdma versions released dont apply? The n7100 and 7105 are not the only note 2s, i got it, if you havent something to add thats helpfull then dont post please.
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Oh so trolling me means the cdma versions released dont apply? The n7100 and 7105 are not the only note 2s, i got it, if you havent something to add thats helpfull then dont post please.
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So, you want to know who has tried the Note II on Verizon? Unless you are a device tester, no one has used the Note II on Verizon's network. Yes, we could go out and try a T-Mobile Note II, but I can't see anyone on VZW spending $650 for an unlocked international version when it won't work on VZW's network.
Maybe you should realize that you're posting in a VERIZON ONLY forum and asking people their opinion's on GSM devices that have a snowball's chance in hell of working on Verizon's network before you start complaining about responses you're getting.
I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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I feel like you have no clue what you're asking. Just keep babbling.
Im not feeding you trolls anymore, google it yourself, shv-e250....3 models
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LordRalh3 said:
I posted it in the note 2 general q&a before it was separated into different flavors by the mods into individual carrier models, and btw people unlock phones and try different networks all the time, and there are at least 3 models from south korea that could play nicely with Verizon with a little effort and was hoping someone had found a useful bit of info. So once again if you dont have something helpful to post please dont
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You really have no idea how VZW's network works do you? If you can't get a Sprint LTE device to work on VZW, how do you think you're going to get an international version working? Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean it will work. If that was the case, why aren't people using AT&T or Sprint Note II's on VZW? Or one of the many other LTE capable phones out there that are available? The reason is because you can't. It won't work, and even if they did support the same protocols and frequencies, you would need to know someone that has access to backend VZW systems that would be willing to risk their job for you to even hope at getting it to work.
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You really have no idea how VZW's network works do you? If you can't get a Sprint LTE device to work on VZW, how do you think you're going to get an international version working? Just because it supports LTE doesn't mean it will work. If that was the case, why aren't people using AT&T or Sprint Note II's on VZW? Or one of the many other LTE capable phones out there that are available? The reason is because you can't. It won't work, and even if they did support the same protocols and frequencies, you would need to know someone that has access to backend VZW systems that would be willing to risk their job for you to even hope at getting it to work.
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lol some people are just fools who will never understand the concept of how the networks really work out there. If it really worked, hell people would be going to one dealer to get it $50 cheaper like AT&T has, and then just using it with their unlimited data on Verizon.
You guys are morons, i am NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY GSM i am also talking about the cdma korean versions, ever heard of cdma workshop? How bout unlocking? For being on xda you are kinda out of it. Ive gotten my answer thank you, two of these versions DO work according to pms iv gotten from people that live or travel to/from south korea where guess what they use CDMA. Only in the us do carriers stop you from using a boughten phone on another network.
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Yeah, we're all idiots and have no idea what we're talking about. Care to tell me how they got the ESN into VZW's database? How are they authenticating and using the LTE network, or even using the CDMA network properly? Probably by doing stuff that is less than legal, or they know people that not many others do. And if it's so easy to do, don't you think that people would be importing the international versions frequently rather than getting bloated Verizon versions? Then again, we're all just idiots, so wtf would we know.
sprints version should be able to work on Verizon, they are both cdma+lte with global capabilities... I know they could since sprint and Verizon roam of each other just like AT&T and T-Mobile do and unlocked gsm phones work on AT&T and T-Mobile all you should have to do is unlock a sprint version
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sprints version should be able to work on Verizon, they are both cdma+lte with global capabilities... I know they could since sprint and Verizon roam of each other just like AT&T and T-Mobile do and unlocked gsm phones work on AT&T and T-Mobile all you should have to do is unlock a sprint version
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Sprint doesn't use the same LTE frequency, and you wouldn't be able to get the phone's ESN info in VZW's database. This is why I've been saying you have to get a VZW version to use on VZW.
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Yeah, we're all idiots and have no idea what we're talking about. Care to tell me how they got the ESN into VZW's database? How are they authenticating and using the LTE network, or even using the CDMA network properly? Probably by doing stuff that is less than legal, or they know people that not many others do. And if it's so easy to do, don't you think that people would be importing the international versions frequently rather than getting bloated Verizon versions? Then again, we're all just idiots, so wtf would we know.
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To be a recognized dev you really are trolling pretty badly. The dude asked if anyone had gotten another Note2 to work on verizon. We are all very happy you understand the policy behind the scenes of getting the device onto the network. There are plenty of people who do have connections within Verizon that could possibly have set it up to make it happen. I'm sure you know all about chipsets and network bands so I'm sure you understand it is completely within the realm of the possible that it happened. Don't bust on the guy for asking a question.
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To be a recognized dev you really are trolling pretty badly. The dude asked if anyone had gotten another Note2 to work on verizon. We are all very happy you understand the policy behind the scenes of getting the device onto the network. There are plenty of people who do have connections within Verizon that could possibly have set it up to make it happen. I'm sure you know all about chipsets and network bands so I'm sure you understand it is completely within the realm of the possible that it happened. Don't bust on the guy for asking a question.
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Would you risk your job to put a friend's Note 2 from another carrier in the system just so they could use the network? I imagine there are some very heavy restrictions on adding new devices to the database, with pretty heavy consequences if you're just adding stuff for fun. Is it possible to make it happen? Yes, it is. Is it likely to happen? No, and I doubt if you did get someone to add the phone info, they wouldn't want you to go around posting about it everywhere.
Given the likelihood is next to zero for knowing someone with the access to do this, being able to buy a non-VZW phone with the proper radio frequencies that isn't a VZW specific device, and then getting said person to add said device to the network, I don't get why the thread was started to begin with. I know of people that have tried to get Sprint CDMA only devices on VZW's network, and even that is a venture in futility, so I can't imagine how you expect to get an LTE Note II from a non-US carrier to work.
Also, you people need to learn what trolling is, as I wouldn't consider any of my posts in this thread to be trolling. I'm stating facts as to why what the OP is asking is extremely unlikely and near impossible. Trolling rarely is factual. Maybe you could say I'm a troll if I came here posting "OMG, I'm using it on VZW's network right now and it's the best thing since sliced French Bread", but I'm not.
So it is possible
It was just a question (in the Q&A section no less) looking for like minded people to respond
Trolling is responding without addressing the topic or in this case answering the question, which was what you did.... repeatedly.
I'm only responding because I would expect much more in a response from a developer. Leave the negativity and the can't do attitude to someone else.
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So it is possible
It was just a question (in the Q&A section no less) looking for like minded people to respond
Trolling is responding without addressing the topic or in this case answering the question, which was what you did.... repeatedly.
I'm only responding because I would expect much more in a response from a developer. Leave the negativity and the can't do attitude to someone else.
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You have no clue what trolling means.
What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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Anything right now about this is just pure speculation.
Right now it is thought they are pretty much identical to Sprint / AT&T models, except for maybe multi-window feature. It seems like there are updates that have been rolled out/will soon be available by carrier and a modified ROM that is supposedly going to be released on XDA that has the feature.
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
snapz54 said:
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
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I thought the leads on the Sprint version were covered up by something.
There are some different pre-installed apps on the various carrier branded versions. Hardware is the same as far as I know, minus possibly the battery. I think carriers may also offer slightly different color variations as well, similar to the SGS3. For the most part though, Samsung has stopped making 400 different configurations of one phone and are making one phone and just changing the software around for the various carriers instead.
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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There's no need to be curious. It is quad-core.
Hardware will only be different in color/branding, and any changes to the radio chips/firmware so they work with VZWs network. Other than that, all devices should be the same from a hardware standpoint. Software is where most of the differences will be, but most of the stuff should be the same as well, with only a handful of carrier specific apps being different.
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Where?
If it is a rep I wouldn't read too much Ito what they say. Without NFC that means no sbeam which seems unlikely
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Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Are you referring to the website comparison? If so, Verizon already said that was a mistake. I second the sbeam logic.
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Samsung Music Hub is part of the features of Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) Check out Samsung support site for Verizon version. The site doesn't mention NFC, but Samsung's support page for T-Mobile's Note 2 doesn't show NFC either even when that device has NFC. The NFC is part of Samsung Music Hub so you can "beam" music. So I take that Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) as having NFC. And yes, the support site does confirm the S Beam.
agree gaminish
I think it does not matter much
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I think it does not matter much
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While it won't stop me from purchasing the phone, I have used NFC on my GNex like crazy. I love Gwallet and being to bump stuff over to my Nexus 7 and back. So for me, it matters a little bit
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Lets do it! Roooot!!! All Smiles
The only hardware differences are that there is a cdma radio in the Verizon one
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I'm with you on that. There are alot of great devs out there! I'm sure root will be obtained very soon after release. The bootloader, however, will be a different beast...