GNEX? - Motorola Droid RAZR

No SBF
No Fastboot files
Locked-Bootloader
Looks we'll suffer the same fate as the Droid X(2) as far as Development is concerned!

I just came from the x2 & would have kept it if my wife's Incredible hadn't become an Impossible (impossible to use). The dev community there IS small but they have created some great options & are very active in moving things forward.
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Another user complaining without even checking the dev section. Total BS.

I also own a X2 and its running GREAT with a custom ROM (check the dev site).
My RAZR is running GREAT with dual ROMs. More Dev will come, it will take time.
No I am not trading the RAZR for a Samsung phone. No freakin way will I do that!
The Razr rooted and stock is a GREAT device.

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Switch from dinc2

I currently have the incredible 2 and am thinking of coming to the dx2. With a little research doesn't look like there's much dev support for here or is that because its so new? Just trying to see if its a good idea and looking for a couple opinions. Thanks!
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We're at the beginning of the cycle with this phone so I think that is the reason you don't see much activity yet. An SBF was just procured and some developments are starting to trickle out. I just moved from the original DROID and so far I'm very pleased with this phone. I've rooted with gingerbreak and am running the supercharger script.
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Lack of dev support was due to a locked bootloader...we still have a locked bootloader but we do have a way into a custom recovery. It is just a matter of revs hopping on and making roms.
99% of the devs looking into this are prob passing it up until we get gingerbread so they don't have to make their roms twice.
Thanks, just read another thread and realized the questions were asked. Had same issue with dinc2 bootloader being locked but finally was cracked and am rooted now. Phone is great I like it but because of signal issues in my area Verizon is sending me a Droid x2 to try out. Dev support for dinc2 isn't that great either but got the main roms like CM7 and miui with couple others brewing. Just trying to decide if this would be a good switch. Thanks
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DROID x2 next moto update?

So anyone heard any word on if our x2's will get ics or 2.3.5?
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I am sure now that Google took the reigns the X2 will be on the list(not the top, but on it) to get ICS.
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I am sure now that Google took the reigns the X2 will be on the list(not the top, but on it) to get ICS.
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The one thing everyone seems to forget though is how old this phone will be once this actually goes through. It takes a long time for the legal part of corporate acquisitions to go through. Google won't actually be having a say in moto for at least a year, if not longer. It wasn't really to have a hardware company anyways, it was a patent grab for protection. They have also said moto will remain a separate company and act as such, so...
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The other part of the equation is the dev community. With active, dedicated developers, many good things can come our way. Most of the best stuff we had on the fascinate wasn't the result of anything specifically released for the vzw fascinate. Alot was adapted by our devs from releases for other galaxy s variants, but we benefited from it because of their efforts. That's why I think we need to treat them as the resource that they are. One of the best devs on the fascinate recently left xda because of all the drama & he wasn't the first. If you want more work to be done on this phone than you gotta do your part to lessen the crap, not make more.
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garywojdan81 said:
The other part of the equation is the dev community. With active, dedicated developers, many good things can come our way. Most of the best stuff we had on the fascinate wasn't the result of anything specifically released for the vzw fascinate. Alot was adapted by our devs from releases for other galaxy s variants, but we benefited from it because of their efforts. That's why I think we need to treat them as the resource that they are. One of the best devs on the fascinate recently left xda because of all the drama & he wasn't the first. If you want more work to be done on this phone than you gotta do your part to lessen the crap, not make more.
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But it also had an unlocked bl and that help'd make a couple dev's come, we have 3 devs and i don't think any of them are happy
I know google aquiring Motorola really wasn't gonna change anything at least for awhile, but I mean moto hasn't been the slowest on updates. Although Verizon may get in the way of any speedy update
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ericerk said:
But it also had an unlocked bl and that help'd make a couple dev's come, we have 3 devs and i don't think any of them are happy
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You are right there. Samsung is more dev friendly with initial firmware features but from what I've gathered their code's a frustrating nightmare & updates are painfully slow. Plus the nonstandard file structure adds the necessity of conversion for any type of real performance kick. Nothing is perfect, that's for sure. I'm just thankful to have a phone that works like a phone first and a hobby second.
As far as the devs are concerned, nitro & naven did excellent work for the fascinate community & I've been really thankful to see them here, not to minimize any of the other contributors on this forum in any way. All of them do something I don't know how to & I get to benefit from it; that's win-win in my book. So, what can we do as participants & beneficiaries to make these guys want to stick around?
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X2 purchase a mistake?

I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
mistawolfe said:
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....

Cm on DX2?

I recently came over to the DX2 from the DX where I was running CM7. Is there any way to get that on the deuce? Have been looking around and it seems that this Droid has been forgotten for the most part.
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Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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xerotix said:
Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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That would be sweet!
xerotix said:
Rumored to be coming soon...we shall see
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I do not want this to become a rumor because "coming soon" is a very bad way to put it. If this rumor is about my current project, I'm telling you right now that CM7 is not my current project. What I will tell you is that what I'm working on will help me or whomever with CM7 and any other ROM dev such as nitro and his Eclipse ROM. Until then, CM7 is only a dream that every X2 owner (including myself) see as a future goal and not as a current project.
Also, moderators can we get this move out of the dev section and into the general or Q&A section? Please keep this section clean for actual development related topics.
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I do not want this to become a rumor because "coming soon" is a very bad way to put it. If this rumor is about my current project, I'm telling you right now that CM7 is not my current project. What I will tell you is that what I'm working on will help me or whomever with CM7 and any other ROM dev such as nitro and his Eclipse ROM. Until then, CM7 is only a dream that every X2 owner (including myself) see as a future goal and not as a current project.
Also, moderators can we get this move out of the dev section and into the general or Q&A section? Please keep this section clean for actual development related topics.
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Its awesome to see you are working on anything....no.matter how big/small for x2
ANY work for x2 dev is good news....thanks for taking time out of your EXTREMELY swamping school schedule for us. Unbelievably appreciated whether something happens or not.(wish u had donate button...just to show appreciation for.time spent
And YES agreed ...wrong section for.sure.
Oh yeah to the OP....IF we had a way to have any CM(cyanogenmod).on X2. It would be in the sticky originally posted by booked....which.is.consistently updated/monitored by booked) trust that anything u need or want that is possible for X2 is there.
This is not development. Please don't post question threads in the dev section...
Moved to general.
I doubt CM7 will see the light of day on the X2 unless the boot loader gets unlocked.
Since CM7 uses a custom kernel, the kernel in the X2 cannot be replaced/modified until the boot loader gets unlocked, which in turn would unlock the kernel. That's the reason CM7 hasn't been released for the X2 since it uses a modified kernel, which is different from a modified ROM.
Until then, we have to use the current ROMS which are coming out that mainly remove bloat from Verizon, tweak the UI (such as the task bar) and do some other tweaks to the settings to help improve the performance and maintain battery life. I really like the Eclipse ROM from Nitro. He's doing an excellent job. There's also Liberty and Molten.
Things like overclocking are not possible until the kernel itself is unlocked. However, due to encryption and not having access to the key to do the decryption, this is next to impossible. From what I've read, the only way to get the bootloader unlocked is to have some developer from Motorola leak an unlocked boot loader/kernel image. I believe that's the only way it happened with the Droid X or some other Motorola phone.
As for Motorola's statement that they would unlock phones starting in October, that was allowed ONLY if the carrier allowed it. Verizon isn't allowing it. So, the only way to really get this to happen is to complain to Verizon who probably will just ignore the complaints anyways.
iBolski said:
I doubt CM7 will see the light of day on the X2 unless the boot loader gets unlocked.
Since CM7 uses a custom kernel, the kernel in the X2 cannot be replaced/modified until the boot loader gets unlocked, which in turn would unlock the kernel. That's the reason CM7 hasn't been released for the X2 since it uses a modified kernel, which is different from a modified ROM.
Until then, we have to use the current ROMS which are coming out that mainly remove bloat from Verizon, tweak the UI (such as the task bar) and do some other tweaks to the settings to help improve the performance and maintain battery life. I really like the Eclipse ROM from Nitro. He's doing an excellent job. There's also Liberty and Molten.
Things like overclocking are not possible until the kernel itself is unlocked. However, due to encryption and not having access to the key to do the decryption, this is next to impossible. From what I've read, the only way to get the bootloader unlocked is to have some developer from Motorola leak an unlocked boot loader/kernel image. I believe that's the only way it happened with the Droid X or some other Motorola phone.
As for Motorola's statement that they would unlock phones starting in October, that was allowed ONLY if the carrier allowed it. Verizon isn't allowing it. So, the only way to really get this to happen is to complain to Verizon who probably will just ignore the complaints anyways.
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I'm sorry to say that the only unlocked Verizon device is the XOOM. The DROIDX and all other Verizon Motorola devices are still locked. We can however use 2nd-init to essentially rewrite our root file system and restart the boot processes. This is how the DROIDX does it and that is how we will do it. The kernel cannot be replaced, that part is correct. But we can still get CM7 running. I have twice, but there were too many FCs to even begin calling it usable.
Sorry for posting I'm the wrong section. I'll just keep my questions to myself or stick with the more friendly boards.
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rcnaimee826 said:
Sorry for posting I'm the wrong section. I'll just keep my questions to myself or stick with the more friendly boards.
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I didn't see anyone get mad at u lol.
U actually got off pretty easy from what I've seen other.people go thru for posting in wrong
forum.(I have seen some.nasty unnecessary stuff b4...when all that's needed is report to politely move thread..like was done here)
Don't be afraid to ask questions
Just ask em in Q&a or general
Don't be.offended.that our moderator arrrghhh moved your.post and requested that u only.post developments in dev section.
Hope to see more from u soon
I am really hoping for CM7 for the simple fact is I want my CM7 OG Droid Theme on my X2. I wish I was talented enough to port it.
I would like to see it for the simple fact I've NEVER used it lol.
So I guess I'm not itching for it like others because of that reason. Lol
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I'm sorry to say that the only unlocked Verizon device is the XOOM. The DROIDX and all other Verizon Motorola devices are still locked. We can however use 2nd-init to essentially rewrite our root file system and restart the boot processes. This is how the DROIDX does it and that is how we will do it. The kernel cannot be replaced, that part is correct. But we can still get CM7 running. I have twice, but there were too many FCs to even begin calling it usable.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was under the mistaken impression the DROIDX had been unlocked. The X2 is my first Motorola Droid, so I wasn't up on all the other hoopla except from what I read and thought I understood.
In any case, thumbs up for doing whatever development/testing I see you tweeting about.

Jumping ship, and cleaning that little crevasse between screen and edge...

Yeah the locked bootloader, and all these devs jumping ship has caused me to make the sad sad decision as well.
I remember using the OG I9000 Galaxy S and the simple joy of browsing up and down the XDA forums looking for a new fresh ROM to flash. Unfortunately I don't get the same joys with my RAZR and I think it's a bummer, considering it's an attractive and svelte device with good internals. (Also, it's Android. Why would you lock your bootloader if you don't agree with a "open" ecosystem. Damn you Motorola.)
I'm rocking the XT910 model GSM unlocked and I just have a few things to take care of beforehand.
The little crevasse between the edge of the phone and the screen is home to (in my case) some lint which is although minor, is really unattractive and downright annoying. It's the little part of the glass where it slopes down into a ridge. Has anybody cleaned this before? Would anybody suggest I use a toothbrush to brush out the little dust and lint?
Also, I'm no fan of the SIII (cheap plastic phones belong in Toys R Us, not Best Buy, also S Voice is a sham), and I'm not sure how happy I'd be using a dual core One X with the knowledge that there is a quad core version in Asia. If I do hold on to my phone until say, December, do you think I'd still be able to fetch ... say ... $300 used in excellent condition?
Thanks
I love my RAZR Maxx. I've had the OG Droid, OG Atrix, Bionic and Droid Charge - the RAZR Maxx is by far my favorite. Really, I bought it for the 3300mah battery and the notification LED, but I'm really starting to love my RAZR Maxx.
The Atrix and Bionic displays were kind of crappy, so I was a bit hesitant to get the RAZR Maxx, but I'm glad that I did. I guess they changed their displays to SAMOLED+?
The one thing I miss is the sweet Wolfson DAC in the Droid Charge.
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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I too love my razr maxx, therefore the cleaning question posted above becomes even more relevant how do we clean that ridge?
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mrjinglesusa said:
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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I had two questions in my first post, you know.
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Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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The locked bootloader sucks :/ I use Epsilon V4 as a ROM, and I just found out that the developer just sold his RAZR for an iPhone >_>
I figure if the developers are packing up, I've got little incentive to stay and wait for custom ROMS :/
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The locked bootloader sucks :/ I use Epsilon V4 as a ROM, and I just found out that the developer just sold his RAZR for an iPhone >_>
I figure if the developers are packing up, I've got little incentive to stay and wait for custom ROMS :/
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must be something wrong with his exam (play with razr to much???)
whirleyes said:
people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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The Maxx has just been released in EU and there coming new Users every day. Just because they don't post on XDA doesn't mean, that they don't use your Stuff
I have a lot to do in my Home Forum to explain People, how they should use your BootMenu or Modules. You got an good Name in the game :thumbup:
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yeah, whirleyes your bootmenu is awesome.:good:
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The Maxx has just been released in EU and there coming new Users every day. Just because they don't post on XDA doesn't mean, that they don't use your Stuff
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But there's no more dev/ROM project to support BootMenu (AFAIK). That's my biggest concern...
& it's hard to do automation of safestrap ROM back-porting (still possible)
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But there's no more dev/ROM project to support BootMenu (AFAIK). That's my biggest concern...
& it's hard to do automation of safestrap ROM back-porting (still possible)
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I don't understand why they wont support it
being a game changer is hard enough

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