Lies Lies Lies - HTC Rezound

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12533-more-lies-lies-lies-thinking-has-tanked/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c3BCWx5Rpg

lol yeah, we figured as much. haha

15:27<brett014> evil u see the new post?
15:27 <brett014> Re: VERIZON Corporate headquarters just called me!
15:28 <brett014> post 38
15:30 <brett014> i never took your post in there literally... thought it was supposed to be funny
15:34 <Evil_DevNull> rootzwiki.com/topic/12533-more-lies-lies-lies-thinking-has-tanked/
<brett014> yea i saw
<Evil_DevNull> interesting that information agin was moved to rootzwiki from our server
<Evil_DevNull> when we have our disclaimer telling you
<Evil_DevNull> if you do we sue
<brett014> did u get the dudes IP?
15:35 <Evil_DevNull> and now this is the 4th time
<brett014> who is doing it?
15:36 <Evil_DevNull> looking it up
<Evil_DevNull> jcase did it 2 times
<Evil_DevNull> steve the owner did it once
<Evil_DevNull> now this douche
15:37 <brett014> haha u made the post specifically to catch someone doing it?
15:38 <Evil_DevNull> yup
<Evil_DevNull> you really think a ceo would be at starbucks?
<brett014> no
<Evil_DevNull> forget his wallet?
15:39 <Evil_DevNull> remember some random fool in chicago?
<brett014> figured as much it was blatant
<Evil_DevNull> **** ya i lied
<Evil_DevNull> to catch the troll
<Evil_DevNull> ask dane when he comes back
15:40 <brett014> i always toook it as a joke
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15:41 <Evil_DevNull> the server got hacked, jcase sent in the troll USS, they keep sending in spy trolls
<Evil_DevNull> figure that was the best place to plant something they'd go after
<Evil_DevNull> if i lie
<Evil_DevNull> i admitt it flat out
<brett014> be hard to stop it without hurting the community growth
15:42 <Serinety> people are going to run with it tho
15:45 <Evil_DevNull> Gall0wz who is he in the forum?
<Evil_DevNull> let them. i have screen shot after screen shot
15:46 <Evil_DevNull> i guess no one reads the user agreement when they reg with our site
15:47 <brett014> no one ever reads the user agreements
15:49 <brett014> posted over on RW

Wow... I usually hate that kind of music, but that was freakin' COOL!

what the hell is with that convo? i'm not following any of it.

Yeah... I'm so sure he lied to catch a troll.... lol!
Thing is... I wasn't even a troll. I actually gave money to support his forum.
And I'm not working for Jcase... his server didn't get hacked. LOLOL.
All i did was question what I read and followed up.
He has no one to blame but himself for the repercussions of lying. See... sure he'll ban me now... but it'll only further tarnish his name.

you can seriously have taken that "email" from the CEO seriously? It was purely fictional and everyone seems to have got the joke but you

The guy is a freakish liar. Your gonna get banned now
You have angered the Gods! Ahahahahahahahaha

brett014 said:
you can seriously have taken that "email" from the CEO seriously? It was purely fictional and everyone seems to have got the joke but you
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So which is it? A lie to out a troll (or piss off a paying supporter in this case) or a joke?

Gall0wz said:
So which is it? A lie to out a troll (or piss off a paying supporter in this case) or a joke?
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Its all irrelevant.

Email Grammar FTW?
I guess, to me, the fact that this email would come from a CEO that doesn't know that "allot" isn't a quantifier, but a verb and uses run-on sentences would be a giveaway that it was a fake. As we all know, the communications sent out by a CEO are usually never directly written by said CEO but rather the communications team at said company. A Communications Director would probably crap a brick if that email had been sent out under their care.

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You're absolutely correct.
Funny thing is, if he were to go and look at the history of my posts here and on rootzwiki he'd see I actually tried to get people to support his work and/or defended the idea of donating to the use of his forums and linking to work.
Then he goes and pulls a stunt like that and expects everyone to figure out that he's joking? I don't think so. He presented it as actual e-mails in a thread specifically about contacting verizon to pressure unlocking the bootloader. He should have known that someone would contact verizon in order to confirm the legitimacy of the e-mail... That kind of stuff will have consequences.
Anyway... I've said my piece. Think of this thread as my scam/fraud alert.

Completely and utterly useless thread

Honestly. This was the reason I left XDA for a while a couple weeks ago. All this bull**** about everything. Very few people still care about the real purpose of this site. 90% of the threads are useless. Just my .02$

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Completely and utterly useless thread
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Honestly. This was the reason I left XDA for a while a couple weeks ago. All this bull**** about everything. Very few people still care about the real purpose of this site. 90% of the threads are useless. Just my .02$
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I agree, it has no intrinsic value. But it is kinda funny you cannot deny that. Well, you can but its still funny to me.

Wow.
Whether or not it was a lie, is he an adult? Or just some loud attention wanting idiot ?
Seriously, and this goes for his delusional **** riders, act your age and if your developing - STFU and do it .
Honestly, he has no say either to creditablity, two false promises of releases, idiotic behavior like wow.
To catch a troll? Wow, who said to make his site public or even create it if hes so bad ass, the guy is a moron.

OK. We are just going to close this, it's not going to go anywhere positive.
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Steve Jobs real thoughts on Android!!!!!!!

Here is a nice little article I stumbled upon. The part about android is towards the bottom of the article.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2011/10/steve-jobs-biography-android-cancer.html
Thoughts?
It was kind of weird reading that considering iOS copied a lot from android..
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Guy was maniacal about his creations so what did you expect?
People send millions of letters to apple stating how great he was and etc and you start to understand how did Hitler manage to turn so many people on his side.
Different **** but same purpose.
He didn't want to accept paternity of his daugher for a looong time leaving her on wealthfare. Cancelled all apples philantrophic moves yet some treat him as some special amazing magical angel.
This aint a rant lol.
As for the issue itself... do you think goog has any different perspective on apple? They all want more powah.
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he always seems a bit up him self. when people tell you your some kind of god that does no wrong, you will eventually believe. RIP
Edit: Wrong thread
He was also a great comedian, I see.
O Ya cause apple never took anything from Google and Microsoft! Hahaha just look at ios5!
I hope postponing the prime wasn't ACTUALLY 'for him'...
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O Ya cause apple never took anything from Google and Microsoft! Hahaha just look at ios5!
I hope postponing the prime wasn't ACTUALLY 'for him'...
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Watch Pirates of Silicon Valley.
Wow Steve Jobs was very arrogant.
Apple has made it practice from its birth to steal product, they stole the mouse and ui from Xerox, stole from Microsoft, Microsoft stole from them, apple has never been great...Steve jobs was just better at stealing, and had an undeniable charismatic and marketing genius. Google is superior. Open source and freedom if info is the future, us younger guys will not accept a future that is any different
F#*k Apple & their ****ty products , Android is a stolen Idea ?! B.S !!!
He was whining about that because he knew its better then this Icrap he bragged about until his last day .
Never liked IPhone & will never own one .
Their marketing ways sux ass their products are way to overrated .
Bottom line Android is the Real Deal & always was & gonna stay # 1 .
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"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong," Jobs said, according to the AP report. "I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
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HAHAHAHA... Game over...
Google: 1
Apple: 0
Someone had suggested watching Pirates of Silicon Valley, I second, and I hope someone will third. It shows Steve Jobs and Billy Gates, who they really are, and what kind of people they are. They don't play fair, they play dirty.
Jobs was arrogant, some of it he deserved, but most of it he didn't. For Steve Jobs to say he was going to fight google/android because it was stolen is hypocritical. There isn't one, but multiple thefts of copyrighted intellectual property, and it isn't just apple, but steve jobs himself personally perpetrating the theft...it is dispicable.
Furthermore; Android is open source, anyone can see the source code, it's very easy to prove it isn't stolen. No subponea needed, any joe public member can download android source code. Eat that Steve "Blow Jobs
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HAHAHAHA... Game over...
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holy crap i just about spit soda all over my laptop when i read this lol
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Sad Panda said:
Someone had suggested watching Pirates of Silicon Valley, I second, and I hope someone will third. It shows Steve Jobs and Billy Gates, who they really are, and what kind of people they are. They don't play fair, they play dirty.
Jobs was arrogant, some of it he deserved, but most of it he didn't. For Steve Jobs to say he was going to fight google/android because it was stolen is hypocritical. There isn't one, but multiple thefts of copyrighted intellectual property, and it isn't just apple, but steve jobs himself personally perpetrating the theft...it is dispicable.
Furthermore; Android is open source, anyone can see the source code, it's very easy to prove it isn't stolen. No subponea needed, any joe public member can download android source code. Eat that Steve "Blow Jobs
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I've heard good things about that movie. He was a snake and definitely a hypocrite. But in the industry, everyone is in a way. I'm not totally against him. I'm a fan of the MacBook Pro. And, I hate to say, I'm posting this message from an iPad 2. I didn't buy it, though. It was given to me by my company.
"it is amazing what one can accomplish when no credit is taken"
Thomas Jefferson.
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I think steve jobs went with the old saying "if you can't bet them join them", which is why he copied alot of android features just like android did to ios5
Maybe he was just pissed that other companies stole his idea...the idea to steal other peoples idea. It just wasn't fair to copy what he already did and get away with it like he did. Someone has to pay for that kind of disrespect.
You all make excellent and well taken points.
I think that it's pretty obvious that Eric Schmidt pulled a Bill Gates on Steve, and if I were him I'd be POed as well. You can't tell me that Android didn't copy(well, actually clone) iOS once Google realized that nobody wanted a BlackBerry after the iPhone was released. Check out early Android prototypes, they're complete BB clones and look NOTHING like Android phones today.

"Public Warning" Epilogue

I'm going to post this here because this is essentially where it all started, so I figure it's fitting.
This is basically an "Ending" to everything that happened on this thread Public Warning, Jaywan is Untrustworthy which is still up, but currently locked. I decided not to ask to have it opened again because I didn't want the chance for anything to be changed in that thread. Things got interesting at Page 30, and then started getting odd around the end. (Panda lol's)
In that thread I explained how my friend, and later 2 other people came forward stating that a phone being sold by a dev here was not shipped, and all communications stopped as soon as he received the money from each person. His explanation was that he went on vacation and left the shipping up to someone else. Page 28 he made an appearance, but, in my opinion, handled the comments from everyone else very poorly. by making threats of lawsuit, Tasteless jabs at the situation, and even an admission of insurance fraud
So, that is a recap of that thread... Oh, and did I mention Polar bears?
Here is how it all ended. Rugedraw was the only one that opted to go through with the purchase of "one" of the 3 he said he was selling. This is the message Rugedraw sent me on it's arrival "Hey, man.....I received the package today. The phone is as described. Boots up fine and has a 2.3.5-based Sense 3.5 rom on it. It even came included with an OEM HTC soft rubber case. I called Sprint and verified that the ESN is clean and the phone can be activated.
I have to say: I am 100% satisfied with the phone.
Who would of thought that last week, huh?"
So, he got what he paid for. But after everything, my friend and Faugnom1 weren't interested in possibly getting jerked around anymore and simply opted to have their money returned. Which Jaywan said in the thread he would do.
Paypal was never contacted by him on neither case. On Dallas's case, he had until Nov. 8th to respond or Paypal would rule in Dallas's favor. Which they did, He has had his money returned BY Paypal. faugnom1's case required a response on the 10th. This is what faugnom1 sent me:
faugnom1:"He said he would pay me by today, the same day my paypal thing is up. So if I dont hear from him in a few hours ill finalize the case.
Me:Did you just go thru withthe PayPal dispute?
faugnom1:Yeah never heard from him again after that one day. Paypal ruled in my favor.
So, Paypal disputed in both Dallas's and faugnom1's favor and they were both repaid.
on a personal note:Thank you to the community, the support was tremendous and I tried not to make it a witch hunt, and I know some Mods look down on this type of posting, but I felt it was being ignored and the post did bring 2 more people in who had the exact same thing happen. If everything is quietly handled, it allows the person to do it again, and then after that, maybe getting banned. If it's brought into the light I believe it serves the community better. If this happened to me, I went on vacation and left it all up to someone, I would feel horrible and give out as much info as possible. I don't want people to think I'm dishonest went I am not. It's not a matter of "IDGAF!!" it's a matter of "that's not who I am and I'll clear my name".
I'm baffled on how his account hasn't been banned (disabled and reenabled 2 times though). While, sure, this may have been all some big misunderstanding by some miracle of coincidences. Other members have been perma-banned for less. He made threats in a thread that was deleted by mods, made light of the situations, and was very combative and offered no forward explanation to anyone involved, only stating "if they want an explanation they can PM me" for someone who took 3 peoples money and then lost all contact with them, coming back with that attitude is shocking to say the least.
Thanks for filling us in.
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Glad peeps got their cash back and the one dude got a phone. Shady situation the whole way around.
I also want to thank everyone for their support. It's nice to know they're are good people on here since I am relatively new.
Thanks again
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ckoadiyn said:
Thanks for filling us in.
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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mazook98 said:
And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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Agreed.
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That was an epic thread Felacio. Even though it was a serios matter.... I had a lot of lols (polarbear .. thanks Sarge ).
Thanks for filling us in buddy!
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Great to hear things got settled finally. And yes, like everyone else said, that thread was the bomb.
Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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lyon21 said:
Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
felacio said:
I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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Because Jaywan's account is still NOT BANNED, I'm PM'd a MOD to see if he can take care of it (ie perma banning that fool)
I believe the mods have better things to do than permaban his retarded ass. Like banning people for posting bad pictures or threating banning for using bad language or for flaming or arguing. Cause that's much worse than some dip**** that steals peoples money and shows how much of a douche he is.
Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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I'm noticing that.
Tell a mod to "**** Off" = Perma Ban.
Steal money/commit fraud on members = Welcome back.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Maybe not banned... but something has happened to him since his last post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19052374#post19052374 was over 2 weeks ago. Maybe someone made good on their threat?
Mike
I noticed in the Wanting to Sell forum there is a way to leave feedback on a user. Felacio, you should leave some negative feedback on him so he doesn't try this stuff in the future.
Good to see everything got resolved man, that old thread was epic! Bear **** punch ftw!
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Even if it ships now u have something else to worry about

People are following package trucks and if no one answers and they leave it they will steal your package.
Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
Atleast I got your post count up by one. I just heard it on the news just thought Id let people know that are getting it shipped.
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Atleast I got your post count up by one. I just heard it on the news just thought Id let people know that are getting it shipped.
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What, on Faux News? I usually enjoy the odd thread, but this one truly is useless.
I also hear that if we have a nuclear holocaust it might delay the Prime launch.
O Noes!!
*runs to cancel pre-order.
These comments are totally useless too
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These comments are totally useless too
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Said Mr. Pot to Mr. Kettle. You should have put the thread title in all caps. That would have made it even more inflamatory and likely to get people to read it. And there's no more risk of packages left without signature being stolen today then before you saw a news story. Unless of course this post and the news story put the idea in people who otherwise wouldn't have thought about's heads.
Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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I'm with this guy. Is there a mayan sub clause in my warranty? Cause if the worlds ending i better be able to blog thru it
yeah I didnt get the whole story ive been trying to find it but cant find it.
or UPS can be dicks like they were to me today
i waited all day for a few packages and he didn't even come by.. but labeled all the shipments as "first attempt made" cause he wanted to go home and skip me
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or UPS can be dicks like they were to me today
i waited all day for a few packages and he didn't even come by.. but labeled all the shipments as "first attempt made" cause he wanted to go home and skip me
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Or when they delivered $1500 printer in original box, with make, model, picture, etc on the box. They didn't feel like lifting it up 1 flight of stairs and left it by the door or a private house. And this is not in suburbia. It was basically sitting on a Brooklyn street.
Actually this is how my wifes Black Friday transformer was left and it has worried me since then. Since when was signature not required he norm.
Hey all if you don't mind giving me your address and estimated ship date I'll come by your place and "watch" for the package for you!!!!
He he he he
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Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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Oh damn. I forgot the world was ending next year. I may save this Prime money for heroin and escorts.
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Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
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i don't know why everyone has this idea like every thread should be should be something special.
i for one am glad to know this, i doubt it will happen to mine, but ill be extra careful.
blaziner, no offense but you are definitely the worst offender when it comes to creating pointless threads...lol. I will give you credit though, some of them have been oddly, and I mean very oddly, well received. You created the 'your hype level' thread, no? That was maybe the most pointless thread I think that I have ever seen created in all of my many many years on the Internet and yes I was an adult when the Internet first became popular (barely). That said people seemed to like it and wanted to come by and say how hyped they were on a scale from 1 to 10. How can you argue with that? Carry on my pointless friend.
I should qualify this post with the fact that I have also seen some constructive posts from you as well. Maybe not threads but at least a few posts. And I don't mean this post as an insult in any way either. I know it can sound that way sometimes on these internets.
Pretty sure the world ending would void the warranty, as that is an "Act of God" and specifically excluded from coverage.
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You're thread crapping and you have the nerve to talk about pointless threads and invaluable contributions? This coming from a member with 39 posts in a one year span? Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the rules and regs before you decide to post replies like this. XDA no likey thread crappers.
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BOX giving free lifetime upgrade to 50GB for Android users

Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23.
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Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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Good call. Just tried uploading nrg rom and exceeded... Fml
I guess dropbox keeps me for now
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
Binary100100 said:
That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
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^ what a boss.
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^ what a boss.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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haha you'd think he would be a little more smart about doing it at least.. if i was a troll id go to starbucks and use their wifi or something lmao, good thing im not though.
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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glacierguy said:
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
Binary100100 said:
You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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I feel powerful... What shall I do with the newly found power I have as op... Muahahah... Ok close it down
Thanks
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Me too
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Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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Trust me, it was my pleasure!
Closing the tread now per OP request.

Operation #MotoBBB

Operation #MotoBBB:
I really don't know how useful making a new petition at Change.org is going to do, given that OP MOSH didn't lead us anywhere. But I feel that this + the BBB complaint rally may take us somewhere. Because, for each new BBB complaint, Motorola receives a brand new complaint, a brand new email to reply to and each email they ignore, the more their ratings and ranking and reputation will be affected at BBB.
So, here is the new petition @Change.org:
https://www.change.org/petitions/mo...s-unlock-the-bootloaders?share_id=ZhoxoqVsuz&
The aim of the petition is to get an apology from Motorola and Verizon, get all our Bootloaders unlocked AND get all the devices released within 18 months of the ICS release date to be updated to ICS.
The aim of the BBB complaint is to submit a personal, one on one complaint to Motorola. The way this works is that Motorola will get an email detailing the complaint and they should respond to it within a month, else it will count negatively on their ratings at BBB. An XDA member named iBolski already did this and he got a very detailed response. So this seems to be effective.
Secondly, I and several other users at the Droid X2 forums have also filed a complaint. Though we didn't get a response yet, I feel that Motorola is taking its time as it wants to respond correctly. So, I feel that this is adding pressure to them. Nevertheless, the fact that they MUST respond, otherwise face consequences definitely means that if a sizeable number of people complain, they will be under severe pressure.
So far 9,279 people signed the OP MOSH petition. I can't imagine how much pressure this will cause if each person who signed that petition also filed a BBB complaint. So many BBB complaints in such a short time would firstly be a record and secondly will be a huge pressure on Motorola who HAVE to respond to each and everyone of them, else face consequences.
Therefore, I URGE you to file a BBB complaint, even if you Don't sign the petition. But please do sign the petition once you file a complaint since that way I will know how many of you guys filed a BBB complaint!
Attached is a template letter for filing for the BBB complaint AND instructions on how to do so!
May we prevail! Please do submit this thread as a news tip! The more people know about this, the stronger we get! If you want to follow my ongoing struggle with Motorola, go to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547632
Instructions to File BBB Complaint + Template Complaint
God speed!
P.S: Moderators, upon consulting with a few xda members I felt that this is NOT spamming as I am soliciting the help of members across several forums. Hence, please do not ban or in other ways punish me. If this is spam, kindly let me know, since I have done this for the first time and moreover, as can clearly be seen from the post I am bringing forth a genuine concern that needs me to post this across all Motorola android phone forums! Thank you for understanding.
FIRST !!... no really... seriously though.. I'm in <runs off to file the BBB complait and sign the petition>
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FIRST !!... no really... seriously though.. I'm in <runs off to file the BBB complait and sign the petition>
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Thank you!
sounds like a plan, count me in.
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Thank you!
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just finished.. lots of editing to make your letter work for me but I got it
Thanks for spearheading this operation.
I understand that you guys want an unlocked bootloader. I don't understand why you would buy a phone with a locked bootloader then complain that its locked? I also don't understand why you think motorola or Verizon is obligated to take any action?
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I understand that you guys want an unlocked bootloader. I don't understand why you would buy a phone with a locked bootloader then complain that its locked? I also don't understand why you think motorola or Verizon is obligated to take any action?
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You kidding me?
They promise bootloader unlocked before they even release it...
I bought the phone cause of that, i would had buy another phone if it wasent for that....
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/SIGNED! Complaint filed. Power to the people and stuff!
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I understand that you guys want an unlocked bootloader. I don't understand why you would buy a phone with a locked bootloader then complain that its locked? I also don't understand why you think motorola or Verizon is obligated to take any action?
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I don't understand why you're so complacent with a locked bootloader. Why do you drink the kool-aid like the rest of the sheeple ?
If you're not going to support this effort then go ahead and move along to another thread where your comments might be more welcome.
Have a wonderful day... toodles
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I don't understand why you're so complacent with a locked bootloader. Why do you drink the kool-aid like the rest of the sheeple ?
If you're not going to support this effort then go ahead and move along to another thread where your comments might be more welcome.
Have a wonderful day... toodles
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You guys are so far THE most vocal Motorola phone community I have posted this info on! And I guess next comes DX2 but that is because we guys are burned out and are desperately in need of some good news!!! XD
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You guys are so far THE most vocal Motorola phone community I have posted this info on! And I guess next comes DX2 but that is because we guys are burned out and are desperately in need of some good news!!! XD
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when a society sits on their tails instead of standing on their beliefs, well, it makes for a sore ass.. Stand for something, stand strong, fight to the death. If nothing else, you won't be bored. Maybe they'll at least tell us to STFU in which case we can still prove that we got their attention, right ?
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You guys are so far THE most vocal Motorola phone community I have posted this info on! And I guess next comes DX2 but that is because we guys are burned out and are desperately in need of some good news!!! XD
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OH.. don't forget the photon community either.. they would enjoy some unlocked bootloader love
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when a society sits on their tails instead of standing on their beliefs, well, it makes for a sore ass.. Stand for something, stand strong, fight to the death. If nothing else, you won't be bored. Maybe they'll at least tell us to STFU in which case we can still prove that we got their attention, right ?
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OH.. don't forget the photon community either.. they would enjoy some unlocked bootloader love
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I'd like to thank this and the previous post, but I ran out of thanks for today! What the!? How am I limited to thank people? In real life I thank as much and as often as I can, so XDA you can learn a thing or two!
Anyway, if you are in anyway interested, or find yourself bored at some point of time, you can pop in and have a look at the ongoing fight I am having with Motorola! Today was a productive day in the fight! Check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547632
PROTIP: The Better Business Bureau RARELY does ANYTHING about a company that pays their BBB dues. And you can bet your bippy that both Google and Motorola Mobility pay their BBB dues.
Who actually checks the rankings of the bbb!? They're just a self promoting business themselves, with no real power to pressure any business to make any changes. If you want to affect a business don't buy it's products.
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Signed
Signed hope this works...
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Complaint filed after plenty of editing.
Guess we wait and see
Done
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PROTIP: The Better Business Bureau RARELY does ANYTHING about a company that pays their BBB dues. And you can bet your bippy that both Google and Motorola Mobility pay their BBB dues.
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even if this is 100% true, we at least will have the satisfaction knowing that we're flooding them with email, snail mail, or enough crap to piss any sane person off.. which is plenty for me.. if it convinces them to unlock the bootloaders, BONUS..
just sayin'
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even if this is 100% true, we at least will have the satisfaction knowing that we're flooding them with email, snail mail, or enough crap to piss any sane person off.. which is plenty for me.. if it convinces them to unlock the bootloaders, BONUS..
just sayin'
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Flooding BBB with frivolous complaints will make Motorola change a phone?

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