Hi! I am a fairly seasoned root user, although I have a lot of research to do for ICS. I am running the IceColdSandwich ROM and thus far only one crash, to be expected! I have the CPU oc'd to roughly 1.76ghz with smooth results. my question is... are task killers, any to speak of, safe for ICS? I realise that a solid killer is built in but...always curious. all comments welcome and NICE to have ALL features working on my Inspire 4G with an ICS 4.0.3 ROM.
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This. The only time a task killer MIGHT be warranted is on a device with only 128mb of ram or less, and in that case it wouldn't be able to run ICS in any usable way at all. Android is efficient enough, dont fight with it for the sake of fighting with it.
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is it any good i found this thing called avast for android antivirus that is a good program for finding your phone lots of good **** for rooted users
I guessed that, but went ahead and got system tuner pro for root users and therein lies the difference. It doesn't seem to interfere with data and phone calling capabilities. I am uploading a ss of my screen of root apps to indicate a bit of my endeavours...but one thing I know for certain is do NOT install AV apps...bad news. So avast is a bad thing indeed.
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I've tried using various task killers. Back in the dark days of eclair/froyo I felt like advanced task killer actually did something.
Nowadays, whenever I've tried out a task killer it just slows my phone down loads and make everything run badly. Some people seem very attached to task killers, they're not worth the trouble.
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is it any good i found this thing called avast for android antivirus that is a good program for finding your phone lots of good **** for rooted users
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Antivirus for Android is pointless. There are NO Android viruses. Don't think of Android in Windows terms. It's not Windows and so does not have the same vulnerabilies as Windows.
Antivirus companies depend on the fear and ignorance of their customers. Companies peddling antivirus for Android (or Linux) should at least be honest that it is only useful for scanning files to be transferred to Windows machines.
This doesn't mean there is no Android malware - there is. And a virus is a type of malware. But not all malware is a virus.
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Have you tried a system tuner app like the one I mentioned? Once you've gained root access many outstanding features are available within the program. I am uploading a ss of the basic options so you may get a feel for it's outline.
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Thx, i'm new member ^^
which one is the best
i am new here. which task killer you recommend
Do NOT use a task killer. It's uneccessary and actually causes problems and wastes battery. Android handles running processes and memory automatically and efficiently for you.
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I used the standard task killer from HTC
strangerman69 said:
I used the standard task killer from HTC
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Again - do NOT use a task killer!
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I agree as a basic cheap task killer does more ill than good...kills all without leaving the user much say in what he/she wants done. I previously posted that I use System Tuner Pro, which you may know has a pretty advanced task manager, not just straight killer (among many other features) and have found it to be quite invaluable as an addition to my root tools arsenal. Would you agree that an advanced manager for a fairly savvy user is advantageous? Thanks for your input!
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Thanks to all for your questions and valuable input. Hopefully this thread will help a lot of people experimenting and learning as I am.
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drakeheart77 said:
I agree as a basic cheap task killer does more ill than good...kills all without leaving the user much say in what he/she wants done. I previously posted that I use System Tuner Pro, which you may know has a pretty advanced task manager, not just straight killer (among many other features) and have found it to be quite invaluable as an addition to my root tools arsenal. Would you agree that an advanced manager for a fairly savvy user is advantageous? Thanks for your input!
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Under NO circumstances is a task killer a good idea. The ONLY time you should kill a task is if an app is misbehaving and you need to force it down so it can restart. In those cases, just use the built in task killer in settings.
I seem to be getting the same info from a number of reputable xda members, and I have definitely made up my mind about killing tasks through an app. Thanks especially to you for adding specifics to your adamant claim against a task killer, that made up my mind indeed.
Kudos!
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Killing tasks isn't actually a big deal. Sure, if you use an app regularly then it's better to have it still in memory for when you next use it, but if you use it once a day then killing it after use does absolutely no harm whatsoever and does free up resources.
Task killer apps though aren't just for killing tasks. If they were we wouldn't even be having the discussion, due to the most excellent native task manager already in ICS. Task killer apps run in the background and use system resources, always checking the state of the system and any running apps, deciding the "best" way to handle your device. That's the bit that is pointless and you should avoid. If you run one of those apps then you're basically draining your battery and system resources on a totally unnecessary app.
In short - kill tasks? Up to you. Task killer/monitor - bad.
Why don't you look it up and find other threads about it, rather than hijack this one
Edit: Thanks, mystery mod, for deleting his posts.
Firstly, its not recommended to use task killers on your Android device, coz it drains up battery starting the app u killed all over again.
Although, if ur phone gets really slow, or else ur running out of RAM, the best task killer is :
Auto Task Killer
Look for it in the Market.
I used it when I had a Galaxy Spica. But after getting the S2, it doesnt really matter.
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Is really antivirus necessary and if yes which is the best, and less cpu and ram consuming?
anti-virus
i dont know if you need it on android but rumour was some apps were infected not long ago so to be cautious i installed the creative apps antivirus and have found it to be very low on memory/ram as i think it only runs when an app is installed or on a set day (optional) i may be wrong with my opinions but thats all they are. regards slym.
now it's not necessary, may be in future.. just do not install obscure apk from market or from the web.
I dont know if it is the best, but it works fine and smooth.
I use Antivirus free from the Market
i don't really need one, but i installed Lookout, just for the hell of it.
Never used an A/V on any of my phones so far (From Nokia S60v1's to Android), don't see the need yet to install one any time soon.
Used to have it in my Symbian handheld ..but was never aware that android needs one..
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Used to have it in my Symbian handheld ..but was never aware that android needs one..
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Android has major flaws for hackers, but I think the user with more common sense and a little knowledge shhould get by without AV
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The good thing with android is that you know what are the permissions a app has before installing them. The bad thing is almost all free apps ask for internet access for ads and can have hidden malware codes.
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I had lookout once but i think it drained so much battery that i dont use av anymore.
Is there any ROM which gives me purely or nearly stock Android Gingerbread on HTC Legend? Or is there any mean by which we can uninstall those unwanted things from CyanogenMod 7 which I am currently running? Like the power control in notifications bar? I have already gotten rid of ADW Launcher and replaced it with Stock Android Gingerbread Launcher. Tips and help needed in this thing.
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Is there any ROM which gives me purely or nearly stock Android Gingerbread on HTC Legend? Or is there any mean by which we can uninstall those unwanted things from CyanogenMod 7 which I am currently running? Like the power control in notifications bar? I have already gotten rid of ADW Launcher and replaced it with Stock Android Gingerbread Launcher. Tips and help needed in this thing.
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u wont find anything better than cm7.0
afaik that power control is also part of gingerbread but u can simply disable it in the cm settings...
seek and you shall find
Thanks for reminding me that I can disable the power control from the CyanogenMod settings.
and also... i dont get why ppl keep posting questions in the development section when theres an "Legend Q&A" section <.<
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and also... i dont get why ppl keep posting questions in the development section when theres an "Legend Q&A" section <.<
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They do because people still answer their questions when asked in development.. If we keep ignoring them they might learn it
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They do because people still answer their questions when asked in development.. If we keep ignoring them they might learn it
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You really have a point but theres a problem.. if you have a question in "Legend Q&A" section it´s common you don´t get any answer or the answer sucks because someone tries to be funny
"Iron Fist"
Enough said.
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Even though others will disagree, CM 7 on the Legend is absolute garbage. The keyboard is sluggish and crashes are a constant issue that are never resolved. I still sticking with CM 6.1.0 as it works as intended.
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Even though others will disagree, CM 7 on the Legend is absolute garbage. The keyboard is sluggish and crashes are a constant issue that are never resolved. I still sticking with CM 6.1.0 as it works as intended.
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i find cm 7.0.3 the best rom for the legend atm, never had a crash and my keyboard works just fine..
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yea been using cm7 and as long as I don't set CPU over 800 I don't get random restart, and its been by far the smoothest rom I have tried.
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I don't know for sure, but if it takes over 150 nightly attempts to make a new stable ROM for a device, I'm not touching it.
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Even though others will disagree, CM 7 on the Legend is absolute garbage. The keyboard is sluggish and crashes are a constant issue that are never resolved. I still sticking with CM 6.1.0 as it works as intended.
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u are doing smth wrong
works like a charm here
No offense, but someone who posts in broken English doesn't qualify as a valid response. There is no 'wrong' about it. It's a 'port' and therefore will be problematic.
For now, it's like running Windows XP on a Pentium II. It will work, but it won't get the job done. Leave Gingerbread for Scorpion based devices that actually can run it smoothly due to a faster processor and more internal memory. 90MB for application memory isn't enough.
u = you
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don't wet yourself, professor
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It's a 'port' and therefore will be problematic.
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Except for the official Google ones every device is using a 'port'. The CM maintainers even have to port the latest code back to the older official devices (as was done with the N1 long before Google engineers pushed the changes to their public Gingerbread repositories).
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Leave Gingerbread for Scorpion based devices that actually can run it smoothly due to a faster processor and more internal memory. 90MB for application memory isn't enough.
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I just checked: At the moment I've got about 150MB of user memory available. Keep in mind that my system is up and running for a few days now and that Android keeps processes in memory until it has to free some for new ones.
I dare to assert that my knowledge concerning hardware support, hardware requirements and Android ports is quite profound. I may not have been as deeply involved into merging the CyanogenMod codebase with Gingerbread as say Cyanogen back then, but I nevertheless know a lot of code well enough and I also created the CPU/arch target for the Legend locally to build and run my and the World's first Gingerbread port of Android on my Legend. Said target was later added and merged by Ricardo Cerqueira by the way.
I also dare to state that the vast majority of differences that could seriously influence performance is to be found between Éclair and Froyo and that those differences resulted in nearly doubled scores in benchmarks. Even if you don't "believe" in benchmarks (I certainly don't) a 100% plus should at least prove that the Legend if perfectly capable of running Froyo. Because the differences between Froyo and Gingerbread are so small and cover a vast majority of completely different areas (like getting rid of a lot of legacy code) Froyo and Gingerbread are quite close.
You might be using valid English – which is not worth mentioning for a native speaker anyway – but that makes your false pretences not a whit righter.
Amen! ali ba and CM7 on HTC Legend FTW! ;-)
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Hey guys who do use for QA testing on your android games or apps other than friends and family? Any websites? I use this guy on fiverr (http://bit.ly/Y1tYEk) but wanted to see what others did?
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Hey guys who do use for QA testing on your android games or apps other than friends and family? Any websites? I use this guy on fiverr (http://bit.ly/Y1tYEk) but wanted to see what others did?
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I mainly use the people at my school and get a mix of people. Usually I take things a step further and my "who" is the UI and Application Exerciser Monkey that is provided in the android sdk through ADB (http://developer.android.com/tools/help/monkey.html). It stress tests applications better then any human could, it really allows you to see how your application will hold up in random real world usage senarios (You can run the test for as short or long as you want). After running the tests I see where the problem spots are in the application and then fix the problems, repeating the process until I'm satisfied with the user experience.
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I mainly use the people at my school and get a mix of people. Usually I take things a step further and my "who" is the UI and Application Exerciser Monkey that is provided in the android sdk through ADB (http://developer.android.com/tools/help/monkey.html). It stress tests applications better then any human could, it really allows you to see how your application will hold up in random real world usage senarios (You can run the test for as short or long as you want). After running the tests I see where the problem spots are in the application and then fix the problems, repeating the process until I'm satisfied with the user experience.
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Awesome info thanks im going to check that out now
Hey, I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions on how to enhance the user experience on the GS4 a little bit further. Any thoughts or recommended firmware/apps I should flash? I currently have Beans ROM build 2 with a Ktoon kernel using his recommended settings but under-clocking the CPU a bit to get some more battery life. Also, I have flashed 3minit framework. Is there anything else I can do to better this phone?
The beauty of it is you can customize the S4 to your heart's desire.
A few apps that may help you get more performance/battery out of your device are:
Seeder
Greenify
Clean Master
Attached is a picture of my homescreen, I am running Hyperdrive and Nova Launcher prime with the Versicolor icon pack. It's nothing special, but may give you some ideas.
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The beauty of it is you can customize the S4 to your heart's desire.
A few apps that may help you get more performance/battery out of your device are:
Seeder
Greenify
Clean Master
Attached is a picture of my homescreen, I am running Hyperdrive and Nova Launcher prime with the Versicolor icon pack. It's nothing special, but may give you some ideas.
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you can get a 3d wallpaper just in case when ios 7 comes out and everyone wants to start blasting that in our faces. Then you can just tell them that its something they get to look forward to having while they wait.
Lol ios7 is why I switched back to android. Nothing special if you jailbreak before.
lSUPERFLYl said:
The beauty of it is you can customize the S4 to your heart's desire.
A few apps that may help you get more performance/battery out of your device are:
Seeder
Greenify
Clean Master
Attached is a picture of my homescreen, I am running Hyperdrive and Nova Launcher prime with the Versicolor icon pack. It's nothing special, but may give you some ideas.
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Seeder is probably worthless
"Google's efforts to optimize newer builds of Android have been substantial, and Seeder has less effect on Android 4.0+ (though many users still report improvement)."
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Seeder is probably worthless
"Google's efforts to optimize newer builds of Android have been substantial, and Seeder has less effect on Android 4.0+ (though many users still report improvement)."
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Personally, I think Seeder makes a HUGE difference. Maybe it is just a placebo effect, but maybe not. There have been numerous reports suggesting one or the other.
Haha...2 apps you have to be rooted for...FAIL. I use the last one...it actually helps...
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I just want to be able to customize it so much more. I haven't rooted an android since the G1 came out so I'm rusty. I've been using iPhone and jailbreaking was okay but there was a lot of different things you can do. I wanted to brush up on the Android version of customizing but I'm lost.
Those three apps are nice...seems like they did speed up my phone a bit, and its already super fast haha
Really should start a thread seeing all the rooted apps like seeder, greenify, etc that people use, I would be interested in seeing what is out there, what is junk, what is good, etc
EDIT: posted a thread, I think it will be interesting to see and helpful, hopefully we can get a good collection of stuff and opinions on whether they are useful or not.
So...I just got an Android ~5 days ago. My friend told me to root the phone and get plain Android on it instead of HTC's bloated modified version of it. I'm not a newbie to SSH and managing linux via prompt (I assume rooting the phone is what that means?..) Anyway, I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been an iPhone user for...~2 years. I'm completely new to Android.
Can anyone start me on the right path, maybe give me some explanations as to what I'm actually doing? Does this void my warranty with Best Buy (probably...jailbreaking the iPhone does, but recovering from that is easy-peezy..)
I'd like to tinker with my phone, but it seems so much more complicated to fix the phone if I make an oops than doing so with an iPhone does.
Thanks in advance.
Assuming you have the DNA, as that is the section you are in, there is quite a few helpful threads already. Check the sticky posts, they usually link to helpful threads.
With the speed of the quad core phones, debloating isn't needed as much as before, but rooting does have it's ups and downs.
I found that AOSP (pure android) based roms compared to sense (HTC software) are a little mote buggy and not as fluid. They feel snappier, but really aren't.
Try some sense based roms before going full aosp on this device. Take it from me. My old devices, I would run only AOSP, but after usi.g sense 5 on this phone, it has so.e good HTC only features.
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I'll echo Uzephi, give sense a try first. If you really want to tinker make sure to make a nandroid in recovery. You will probably need to use either moonshine or rum runner to do what's called s-off your phone first. That will also root it. I've found the easiest way to do that is to boot to a live USB Linux, then you don't have to deal with driver issues. If you have windows 8 or 8.1 64 bit there have been fastboot issues with drivers seeing the phone for some users, myself included. Give us some more info on what your PC set up and phone OS versions are and we can help some more when and if you want. Have you gotten the latest OTAs.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android 4.2 is the base operating system and HTC customized it to their liking, which they call Sense, and you have version 5 of Sense.
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...I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android phone manufacturers like to give their phones a specific look and feel, which is why android phones can look so different. This modification/augmentation of the base android software environment is commonly referred to as a UI (user interface), or Skin.
The term 'skin' is a terrible over-simplification, but it gets the point across. The vanilla Android software environment is, for many, quite boring, and not as powerful as it can be. Companies like HTC and Samsung incorporate cool animations, graphics, and sounds effects, as well as software that takes advantage of their camera's capabilities.
HTC's UI is called Sense
Samsung's is called TouchWiz Motorola's used to be called Blur (don't know if it still is)
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If you're brand new to Android, I would just use the phone as it is now without rooting or putting a custom ROM on it. Once you're comfortable and familiar with Android then you can decided if you want to root and rom.
jake6177 said:
My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Rooting is akin to jailbreak, gaining control of your phone. You can root your phone (get root directory access) and still remain completely stock for your Rom.
I personally have had the best experience with sense based roms. Your experience may differ depending on what you use.
If you want to use mobile hotspot on your phone without paying subscription then rooting is a must.
Linux used to be a must to root. Now there are windows based options, I used moonshine.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Yes, correct, capped data is forbidden by law to charge for mobile hotspot, unlimited data is chargeable.
Edit* At OP, Sense is the king flavor of android, stick unrooted for a while as you won't really see a need for it yet, unless you want to go and throw on different ROM's and try them out, which in that case def. go and try viperDNA (best sense ROM avail.) AOSP/CM based ROM's are still a WIP and are ok to use but you will miss out on everything sense (sense apps, widgets, features, and even some hardware features)
Gaining root is becoming the sys admin of the phone, you would be able to read/write to the system partition of the phone and execute system privileged commands that are more for the hacker/modder/enthusiast (not normal user, you really wouldn't find a use for that type of stuff, the only app that would serve you good is "Titanium Backup" that does require root but it basically backs up all of the apps and their data)