To whom it may concern within Asus:
Let me first start off by saying that this is my 5th Prime. I originally pre-ordered a 32GB Grey TF201 Asus Transformer Prime bundle with Bluetooth controller from Gamestop. http://www.gamestop.com/tablets/asus-transformer-prime-32gb-grey-tablet-bundle/98405
After all the launch delays and bad web coverage about the TF201's bad WiFi, I decided to cancel my order and purchase an iPad 2. To this day I have not one complaint about the iPad 2. Every aspect of the iPad 2 is outstanding.
Finally the TF201's launch day arrives. It really didn't matter to me because I am happy with my iPad 2....until I received a call from Gamestop telling me my Prime was ready for pickup(Even though I had previously canceled...lol). So...based off of my Faith that Asus fixed all of the problems plaguing the review TF201 pre-launch models, I bit the bullet and purchased the TF201 bundle and dock.
On the way home I was SOOOO excited. Kinda like when my parents drove me to pick up the original Optimus Prime Transformer back in 1984.
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As I opened both the Prime and dock I was shocked how Premium the quality was. Wow!!! Asus really went all out on the look and feel of the Prime and dock. This is really first class stuff here. After setting it up the horror became apparent.
Prime #1 #2 Problems:
1. GPS did not work(didn't really matter to me)
2. WiFi range/throughput is/was awful.
3. Bluetooth enabled, causes WiFI to NOT receive or transmit data.
4. Bluetooth audio delay in video playback, regardless of the video player app used or brand of Bluetooth headset.
5. Because I can't use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time renders my Bluetooth controller useless.
6. FC's(Force Closes) and random reboots.
5. Screen Backlight Bleeding.
7. Lag with Asus My Water II live wallpaper(Honeycomb).
8. Video artifacts while watching Youtube video's.
9. Bouncing taskbar after video artifacts.
With these problems I had to return my first and second Prime back for a full refund at gamestop. They were not happy and neither was I....back to my iPad 2.
Almost 2 months went by and even though I am/was totally happy with my iPad 2, I figured Asus had to have straighten things out by now.
Prime #3 was purchased at Bestbuy earlier last week.
Problems:
1. Bluetooth enabled, causes WiFI to NOT receive or transmit data.
2. Bluetooth audio delay in video playback, regardless of the video player app used or brand of Bluetooth headset.
3. Because I can't use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time renders my Bluetooth controller useless.
4. Video artifacts while watching Youtube video's.
5. Bouncing taskbar after video artifacts.
I spoke with Asus Tech Support who recommended RMA with the cost of shipping at my own expense or return. Of course I chose to return it.
Prime #4
Problems:
1. GPS did not work(didn't really matter to me)
2. WiFi range/throughput is/was awful.
3. Bluetooth enabled, causes WiFI to NOT receive or transmit data.
4. Bluetooth audio delay in video playback, regardless of the video player app used or brand of Bluetooth headset.
5. Because I can't use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time renders my Bluetooth controller is useless.
6. FC's(Force Closes) and random reboots.
5. Screen Backlight Bleeding.
7. Lag with Asus My Water II live wallpaper(Honeycomb).
8. Video artifacts while watching Youtube video's.
9. Bouncing taskbar after video artifacts.
10.Constant reboots.
I contacted Asus again and was offered RMA with the cost of shipping at my own expense or return. Of course I chose to return it again.
Embarrassed, I went back to Bestbuy. They recommended that I give up on the Prime. They also had received Prime returns do to defects. I insisted on giving it another shot. I am a Bestbuy Rewards Silver Member for 4 years+ standing. I know almost everyone in my local store.
Prime #5(Current)
Problems:
1. WiFi range/throughput is/was awful.
2. Bluetooth enabled, causes WiFI to NOT receive or transmit data.
3. Bluetooth audio delay in video playback, regardless of the video player app used or brand of Bluetooth headset.
4. Because I can't use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time renders my Bluetooth controller useless.
5. Video artifacts while watching Youtube video's.
6. Bouncing taskbar after video artifacts.
I called Asus again, same recommendations
I turned it off today and held power & volume down and then pressed up, Bluetooth and WiFi work together now, but who knows for how long....WTF to that?1?!?
I really love the look and feel of the prime and dock. I really need these problems to be fixed VERY soon. What makes matters worse is, that I see our friend Gary on Youtube showing off the new TF700t. I can't even finish watching the video because my TF201 has massive video artifacts that also affect my taskbar. Forget the TF700t Asus!!! Asus needs to focus on fixing the mess Asus created!! You have loyal(not for long) customers who NEED you NOW!!!
I don't care if there are a million threads/stories/letters like this. I need you to hear me...and hear me clearly. This is not a joke!! I spent $650.00USD on the Prime and Dock. I have 43 days left to return it and spend my money elsewhere(iPad 3). Until the return windows has come and gone these purchases are NOT final.
I even wrote Asus twice. Here are my mail request ID's WTM20120204201235672 & WTM201202042012435314. I have yet to receive a response....lame. I've owned a 2 EEE PC's, G51GX, G71GX, G73JH and G74SX. Now I own a M18x.
I need you to hear, listen and understand me and each and everyone of your loyal customers. I even read Asus is offering other countries compensation.
I am a technology enthusiast by heart. First to have any and everything(except a good camera my Nex-5 is down for warranty repair). It's ridiculous that I/WE sit here with such amazing hardware from Asus that is so defective. This stuff should have been fixed yesterday. Especially with the iPad 3, TF700t and Acer/Lenovo Tegra 3 tablets on the horizon. The Prime is a luxury item. It can be returned just as easy as it was purchased.
Instead of watching the super Bowl pre-game show, I'm here writing this letter on behalf of all TF201 owners & myslef. Please don't continue to half @$$ this product.
Here are my solutions:
Fix the Prime's problems with software updates ASAP.
If software can not fix the problems, have Bestbuy perform the repair. That way we can hold some one physically accountable in case of damage or failed repair. Bestbuy is a authorized reseller/repair facility for Asus.
Asus PLEASE fix my/the Prime.
You would've been better off just PM Gary this whole message. It won't get seen faster being out here like this. We all know he pays more attention to his sticky threads and personal PM.
So tell me what happened? Just the other week you had a thread talking about how Asus finally got it right..lol.
The 5th Prime that I have is waaaaay better than my last 4 Primes.
No backlight bleed, no physical defects, awesome GPS...in fact it's so awesome I can lock on to 7 satelittes from within my bed room. My Garmin can't even do that.
But there are times when I need WiFi to work in my bedroom where every other device that I own gets 4 to 5 bars. I also need Bluetooth and WiFi to work at the same time and no Bluetooth audio delay.
And last but not least...no video artifacts and bouncing taskbar after watching Youtube videos. As you know I really Love/Hate my Prime. I feel that I've gone out of my way to make this Love/Hate relationship work. I really don't want to get rid of my prime and this awesome community here. I'm really trying to hold on here.
As I look at my prime beside me it just annoys the ccrap out of me how this amazing device can be full of pre-production bugs.
Understand your frustration totally!
However... sometimes you just have to accept something is'nt going to happen, and throw in the towel, it's just not worth all the stress!
I cancelled my pre-ordered Prime after seeing all the hassle people were getting with even the most basic of device features.
Check out my thread dude!
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
skygunner27 said:
To whom it may concern within Asus:
Asus PLEASE fix my/the Prime.
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Asus blew this up BIG TIME. They have destroy their reputation with this one. They rushed to be the first to release a quad-core tablet and this is what happened. Pointless having the fastest hardware (in benchmarks) when it's basic functions are broken. I would be very cautious with their future hardware release (TF700 or anything).
I did. I really don't like the direction your thread is going in. Oh well.
The closer we get to iPad 3/TF700t the more united we will become. Trust me. No one is gonna just sit here after paying 500.00USD+ with a defective tablet full of bugs while the competition releases similar spec'd tablets w/o the bugs......especially someone outside of the return window.
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Asus blew this up BIG TIME. They have destroy their reputation with this one. They rushed to be the first to release a quad-core tablet and this is what happened. Pointless having the fastest hardware (in benchmarks) when it's basic functions are broken. I would be very cautious with their future hardware release (TF700 or anything).
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I agree
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Hey do you mind linking my thread in your original post?
Don't take this personal but anytime a company see's the words Social/Media attack they back off like the plague. Instead of providing support, they ignore the entire message.
My post is my last and final outcry on behalf of myself and every other TF201 owner before I throw in the towel. I've already written Gary, Asus 2x, XDA and soon Asus's Facebook and Twitter page.
I think your thread is good and shares the same common goal, but the approach is different. Keep at it. You have my support.
skygunner27 said:
Don't take this personal but anytime a company see's the words Social/Media attack they back off like the plague. Instead of providing support, they ignore the entire message.
My post is my last and final outcry on behalf of myself and every other TF201 owner before I throw in the towel. I've already written Gary, Asus 2x, XDA and soon Asus's Facebook and Twitter page.
I think your thread is good and shares the same common goal, but the approach is different. Keep at it. You have my support.
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You mean more like scare them! because they might loose a bunch of sales?
Wow 5 primes?? At what point do you just give up and wait for a tablet that works as advertised?? This one is a lost cause.
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Bender B. Rodgriguez said:
Wow 5 primes?? At what point do you just give up and wait for a tablet that works as advertised?? This one is a lost cause.
Sent via smoke signal
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If a fix is not released soon, I'm officially throwing in the towel on Tuesday evening AKST time and going with a iPad 3 or TF700t with less problems. Preferably iPad 3. I appreciate Gary's help but I feel that Asus isn't doing enough, quickly enough.
The TF700t is closer than everyone thinks.
Watch this video and you'll see why I say this. Pay attention at 2:17
http://youtu.be/Fc2qmE9XcT4
Quietly waiting for fix
I for one, appreciate these threads. No matter how repetitive people think they may be.
I'm one of the many users that have joined this site after purchasing the prime in order to learn all the tips and tricks i can do with my new toy.
Only to find myself glued to this thread each day about when i can expect my $800 tablet (yes it costs that much in Australia) is going to work a bit better about 10 meters away from my router.
Ive always been a huge fan of asus products, and im just hoping they can get the loyal fans out of this mess we're in.
I know for a fact that if i attempt to return my tablet, its going to take forever and a day in order to get anything in return.
I absolutely love the look and feel, and would much rather have someone tell me how to fix it rather than get my money back.
Thank you for your post. I feel exactly the same as you do. Please continue to support your fellow TF201 owners. If a software fix isn't released by Tuesday evening I will return my Prime. Regardless, I will still post here and continue to offer my support and prayers to those affected by Asus's negligence. I know this is a just a tablet but to me and many like me, it is an extention of my PC and myself. It is important for it to work correctly.
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If a fix is not released soon, I'm officially throwing in the towel on Tuesday evening AKST time and going with a iPad 3 or TF700t with less problems. Preferably iPad 3. I appreciate Gary's help but I feel that Asus isn't doing enough, quickly enough.
The TF700t is closer than everyone thinks.
Watch this video and you'll see why I say this. Pay attention at 2:17
http://youtu.be/Fc2qmE9XcT4
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I wrote more but pressed some stupid button on accident. Lol. Basically new tf-700 won't be out till June at earliest. I already pointed it out from that video before. ASUS HISTORY HAS SHOWN that they never release devices exactly when they say. Its always later. Most recent and perfect example is the Prime. It been was supposed to be released months ago. Before that was OG transformer n other Asus tablets. So keep in mind a releastic time frame of release. If I were you, I wouldn't be an early adopter of next device. After going thru what you did, it'll be smarter to just wait it out for a lil while after it releases to get a scope of how things are going for it. Whatever you do though, fck apple..lmfao ipad3 will be severely crippled compared to the freedom of Android. Only freedom apple gives you is changing wallpapers..lmfao. other then that its a boring device with just apps on a screen. I had to jailbreak my Ipad to only be able to do half the things Android does naturally out the box. Plus being chained to iTunes is the worst. I'd be damned if I ever would have to use some PC program to put media, music. N videos on my Ipad. That's why I jailbroke so i wouldn't need iTunes anymore. Apple is good and is mainlybfor beginner people to tablets. If you more than just a beginner, then android is what u want.
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I wrote more but pressed some stupid button on accident. Lol. Basically new tf-700 won't be out till June at earliest. I already pointed it out from that video before. ASUS HISTORY HAS SHOWN that they never release devices exactly when they say. Its always later. Most recent and perfect example is the Prime. It been was supposed to be released months ago. Before that was OG transformer n other Asus tablets. So keep in mind a releastic time frame of release. If I were you, I wouldn't be an early adopter of next device. After going thru what you did, it'll be smarter to just wait it out for a lil while after it releases to get a scope of how things are going for it. Whatever you do though, fck apple..lmfao ipad3 will be severely crippled compared to the freedom of Android. Only freedom apple gives you is changing wallpapers..lmfao. other then that its a boring device with just apps on a screen. I had to jailbreak my Ipad to only be able to do half the things Android does naturally out the box. Plus being chained to iTunes is the worst. I'd be damned if I ever would have to use some PC program to put media, music. N videos on my Ipad. That's why I jailbroke so i wouldn't need iTunes anymore. Apple is good and is mainlybfor beginner people to tablets. If you more than just a beginner, then android is what u want.
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I've put up with 5 bad Primes back to back from different retailers...lol. I guess I could wait for iPad 3 or TF700t. What makes this so hard is that I have exhausted my time and resources(not including money) on my 5th Prime w/dock. I really like everything about it minus all the problems. I actually like iTunes and the App store so I'll be right at home with iPad 3. It drives me nuts to sit here with my Prime 2 feet away from me and not use it because the WiFi doesn't reach it when every other device I own gets at least 4 out of 5 bars. Asus got the idea right, just not the execution. Hopefully Asus will announce a fix between now and Tuesday evening. If they don't I'll most likely go iPad 3 or TF700t w/dock. I have about 400.00 in Bestbuy gift cards...lol. Even if/when I return my Prime & dock I will continue to support the members here. I understand that supporting the TF201 users paves the way for better releases from Asus...........hopefully
Technically my M18x has an Intel 6300 with My WiFi support so I could extend the WiFi to my tablet. But I don't feel I should have to rely on my maxed out M18x to power a 650.00 tablet. I even owned a Japanese PS Vita with better range than my TF201. Asus is playing a dangerous game here. A lot of products are releasing soon(PS Vita Feb.) that could sway some pissed off TF201 customers. Hopefully a fix will be released.................................soon.
Everyone who's getting "awesome" GPS, what are most of the color of your bars on the GPS Test app?
skygunner27 said:
The 5th Prime that I have is waaaaay better than my last 4 Primes.
No backlight bleed, no physical defects, awesome GPS...in fact it's so awesome I can lock on to 7 satelittes from within my bed room. My Garmin can't even do that.
But there are times when I need WiFi to work in my bedroom where every other device that I own gets 4 to 5 bars. I also need Bluetooth and WiFi to work at the same time and no Bluetooth audio delay.
And last but not least...no video artifacts and bouncing taskbar after watching Youtube videos. As you know I really Love/Hate my Prime. I feel that I've gone out of my way to make this Love/Hate relationship work. I really don't want to get rid of my prime and this awesome community here. I'm really trying to hold on here.
As I look at my prime beside me it just annoys the ccrap out of me how this amazing device can be full of pre-production bugs.
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I hate to tell you but WiFi range with Primes will not be up to snuff with other wifi devices unless they remove the all aluminum backing the deadspot range is about 5-15 ft before other wifi devices ive tested several primes on several different routers its consistent amount all Primes.
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Everyone who's getting "awesome" GPS, what are most of the color of your bars on the GPS Test app?
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To be honest I have one of the best Primes. But it's still not good enough.
Here are some pics showing GPS from my bedroom and to validate that I actually own a Prime and am not trolling. My Prime has better GPS than WiFi!! Go Figure!! If I'm outside I have 13 satelites all in the green at the least.
WiFi Disabled
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I can already feel the angry masses and people saying "you started another thread......when there already are threads......."
I am supposed to get my TFP tomorrow from BB. Along the Wifi / GPS / aluminum back issues there is one fundamental one I don't understand......Didnt the engineers test this stuff out first or think to bring up the plausibility of signal distortion before advertising this stuff. Isn't there a Quality control department that could have said hey Bluetooth and wifi radios are distorted look at this?
I do not have mine yet so I hope mine is fine, but to people on both sides who want to bash my post, even Asus is now admitting an issue and that is a big deal as it then puts doubts in potential customers minds. It was funny when it was the iPhone 4 and the antennae issue but not so funny now. At least Apple attempted to do something. I hope Asus can come up with something to save its customer base. We have to have competition for the iPad.
How did all of this slip by? I mean sheesh we are paying 500.00 plus for something we are told works out of the box.
My other questions are more pessimistic. I'm not sure even if mine works fine that it is reliable for me to keep. Am I safe in opening the box and playing with it to build up courage before returning to BB?? Or should I just return with the box sealed?? Right now the only thing I wanted was the TFP. If its not ready then I'd rather have my money back. I did as much research as I could on the iPad 2 or this and made my choice I don't want to spend my money on something I feel is second best, in fact it would be more money.
Please note I had the TF 1 for 6 months, several kernels and Roms on it and was very pleased. I havnt seen a backlash like this in a long time.
Complain about my logic or paranoia, that's fine, but this is not an Apple vs. Android War.
If it is defective, then bestbuy will let you exchange it for another one of the same model.
I'm not sure what policy BB has in the US...but here in Canada, I can return most items to Best Buy for a full refund within 30 days. I have 14 days for computers and tablets. You do not need to have any reason other than it's not the one you want.
As long as you return them in the original packaging with nothing missing...you're good to use it as you wish for that period of time.
I took advantage of this policy when buying a new tv a few years ago. It was a great way to test out different models and sizes to see what I really wanted.
I just purchased the Samsung Galaxy Tab a couple days ago...I'm giving it a good test before committing to keep it. If I can get my hands on a Transformer Prime in the next little while from BB, I will give that a whirl as well.
I returned mine last week.
Best Buy has a 14 days return policy even if the box is opened as long as it is not damaged by you.
If the device is defective then you get your postage/delivery cost refunded too.
So play with it for a week to see if everything is working, if not... return it.
I returned it due to dead pixels. GPS, WFI all worked on mine and no black light bleed.
I had 2 units with dead pixels, so make sure you check for that with apps...
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I can already feel the angry masses and people saying "you started another thread......when there already are threads......."
I am supposed to get my TFP tomorrow from BB. Along the Wifi / GPS / aluminum back issues there is one fundamental one I don't understand......Didnt the engineers test this stuff out first or think to bring up the plausibility of signal distortion before advertising this stuff. Isn't there a Quality control department that could have said hey Bluetooth and wifi radios are distorted look at this?
I do not have mine yet so I hope mine is fine, but to people on both sides who want to bash my post, even Asus is now admitting an issue and that is a big deal as it then puts doubts in potential customers minds. It was funny when it was the iPhone 4 and the antennae issue but not so funny now. At least Apple attempted to do something. I hope Asus can come up with something to save its customer base. We have to have competition for the iPad.
How did all of this slip by? I mean sheesh we are paying 500.00 plus for something we are told works out of the box.
My other questions are more pessimistic. I'm not sure even if mine works fine that it is reliable for me to keep. Am I safe in opening the box and playing with it to build up courage before returning to BB?? Or should I just return with the box sealed?? Right now the only thing I wanted was the TFP. If its not ready then I'd rather have my money back. I did as much research as I could on the iPad 2 or this and made my choice I don't want to spend my money on something I feel is second best, in fact it would be more money.
Please note I had the TF 1 for 6 months, several kernels and Roms on it and was very pleased. I havnt seen a backlash like this in a long time.
Complain about my logic or paranoia, that's fine, but this is not an Apple vs. Android War.
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If I thought the gps is important feature (which I do), I wouldn't even bother going to get it or even open it up...just say you changed your mind. The chance of it working right is slim. If I knew what I know 2 weeks ago I would not have got it at gamestop. They don't seem to have a refund policy, but some people have said they got it returned and their money back. Either wait for asus to own up and fix the problem or choose another tablet. I also own the transformer, but my son broke it. I waited to get the prime to replace it, but I rather go back to the old one, but seeing how asus is....I'm not even going to get the transformer even though it was good.
My tolerance level has dropped considerably since all this stuff started. I'll probably be looking for trouble. However I've had enough tablets that if I have one of the "defective units" then it won't be hard to find. Feels like a bad dream.
Hey, another Canuck. I wish I bought mine from BB because my Canada Computers 14 days return is up on Friday. There's nothing wrong with opening and playing around with the tablet. That won't prevent you from returning it. If anything, playing with it will give you a sense of the limitations and let you figure out if the GPS really matters or not. Also, Ice Cream Sandwich comes January 12th, how could you pass on that?
P.S. In a couple weeks, you'll be hearing back from people like me that will be sending to RMA to "fix" the GPS. We need to see what they do about it.
They took my used one back no questions asked.
you haven't even gotten it yet let alone used it. you think n hope for the worst, that's what you will get. instead of assuming it'll be riddled with defects, at least test it out and have some hands on before passing judgement. guy got flamed in the other thread for this same thing really. he didn't even have device and was dismissing it on stuff he read n heard. Be your own person and test it out first with an open mind. don't just assume since you been reading all these b.s. threads that they're all true.
that was being nice Good luck on your Prime and performs out the box for you like its supposed to. Let us know your first impressions vs. all the stuff you been reading ln this forum.
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you haven't even gotten it yet let alone used it. you think n hope for the worst, that's what you will get. instead of assuming it'll be riddled with defects, at least test it out and have some hands on before passing judgement. guy got flamed in the other thread for this same thing really. he didn't even have device and was dismissing it on stuff he read n heard. Be your own person and test it out first with an open mind. don't just assume since you been reading all these b.s. threads that they're all true.
that was being nice Good luck on your Prime and performs out the box for you like its supposed to. Let us know your first impressions vs. all the stuff you been reading ln this forum.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I agree. My wife and I really like this tablet. She gets pissed at me for even talking about GPS ("We already have that in the car why the hell do you need it on a tablet!"). Otherwise the only issue for me is the HDMI output. The amount of B.S. in this forum is unreal - it make me think peeps are doing it to deter Prime sales. It's been that bad.
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yes. it has been that bad. I'm starting to think the same thing. all in all, its completely fair to want a fully functioning device since we paid for it. Aside from GPS, which I don't use anyways, My Prime has more than exceeded my expectations and all other aspects of it works flawlessly. including wifi
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I use Printershare for network printing. It works pretty well with my Cannon MX860 Series. BTW, got my TP of 12/23 and been loving it ever sense. I loving hearing the oo's and aah's when I show it at work.
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In our case, it replaces the old Dell Dimension desktop. The only problem is that my wife likes to print and I haven't found anything that resembles a network printer application. Anyone, anyone? Off topic, I know.
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I've seen a few printer share apps on marketplace. can't recall the name but they are out there. just type in Printer share or something similar in marketplace and see what pops up. I'm not sure if the Print n Share app that was well received for Ipad is out for Android.
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I've seen a few printer share apps on marketplace. can't recall the name but they are out there. just type in Printer share or something similar in marketplace and see what pops up. I'm not sure if the Print n Share app that was well received for Ipad is out for Android.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to android market and sometimes I see apps and have to question their credibility. I don't know why. Maybe they look too much like shareware or something.
I use printer Share and really like it. You have to download a client for your desktop but it does it all including Remote Print.
You guys are right and I tried to note that I don't have the Prime yet, but this is almost anarchy lol. That's why I wanted to know if I was safe opening the package if I retun. This isn't me wanting something else, it was the TF or bust for now. So I'll post when I get it and will keep an open mind. Thanks
I got my TFP today on theorch bubble wrapped and white box. I don't know what to say after warming up and charging and installing updates, which went flawlessly.
1. Haptic feedback is barely noticeable but I kind of like it that way.
2. Screen is beautifully brought as is the device.
3. Camera is pretty crisp with nice Facebook integration.
4. Nice and lightweight.
5. Riptide game is Wow, Amazing. Graphics.
6. Screen transitions happen with no lag. Impressive.
7. Speakers are way better than the TF 101.
8. No dead pixels and just a hint of light bleed.
Not so great.
1. GPS my phone the Motorola atrix in my livingropm locks to 15 satellites within a minute. This can't find a single one.
2. The wifi signal about 25 feet away drops between 2 and 3 bars. However speed test are the same as the OG iPad.
3. Despite being ultra thin, when holding the TFP the edges hurt your sides of your hands. Kind of surprising.
4. The back is very smudge prone. Not that's a return issue.
While it is beauty and the screen is impressively bright and games speaker and camera are all pluses. Wifi, GPS are frustrating. Need some time to comtemplate.
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mdpgc said:
I agree, I use devices in their proper perspective. If I want to use a GPS (I will use a GPS), a mp3 player (I will use a mp3 player). I don't use my PS3 as a bluray player, I use it to play games. I use a bluray player to watch blurays. This is a tablet use it for what it is...and thats to replace a laptop or netbook!
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if thats the case wouldnt you use a laptop or netbook????? you have way to much money/gadgets ( feel free to donate some )
my first one was riddled with problems. i am much more confident that my second will be better now that they are in stock at some places. to me that means asus is starting to catch up on demand a little and hopefully will have better quality control. if not no. 3 here i come!
Well to me the issue with the GPS is not really that it doesn't work but more that its included in the price. So if they had just left it out to began with the prime may have been cheaper. So we pretty much paid for a GPS chip and parts for nothing.
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OK so I returned it and await a replacement. It is supposed to be here on the 12-14 just in time for ICS. I truly hope it works well in terms of WiFi as I love the device otherwise. Thanks so much for everyone's input. It was greatly appreciated. It allowed me to realize I could exchange it and not just return it. Again thanks to everyone for their input!!
Apologize for posting in the wrong area. This is a fairly extensive site and that JPG that was highlighted in red was from an area I wasn't familiar with. Again my apologies, if I had seen it I wouldn't of posted it here.
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Ok so I have till tomorrow to return my Transformer Prime to Best Buy. Then it will be 14 days since I received it from bestbuy.com.
I'm truly concerned about the many issues that have been found on this device. Yes, I know it's new and yes, I know ICS is coming the 12th.
What my concern is, is that no matter of software tweaking will fix pogosticks in the hardware, or poor antenna placement (GPS, WiFi & BT), poor case design which interferes with the GPS signal. If it was just a GPS issue I would be like whatever I have my phone for navigation and it can determine my general location well enough for apps. The WiFi issue is a big one for me. I travel. I stay in hotels. Which don't always have the best of reception or signal strength for WiFi. I'm also disappointed that the WiFi doesn't play nice with WEP (Well, at least mine doesn't). Some offices I visit only have WEP setup. It is also troublesome it doesn't have 5 gHz Wifi, but not a deal breaker. I have typically always loved and enjoyed my ASUS products. I have been using their motherboards for years.
I don't have the money to invest into another device in 5-6 months. I'm at my wits end on this. I can see the potential but the possibility of this turning into a $500 misfit from the land of broken tablets is great. I need honest opinions and input. I have been trolling this board for weeks while waiting for it to come and i have seen people both happy and not with their Prime. I truly do not know what to do. Stick it out and take whatever lumps or bring it back and wait for the next round of Tegra 3 tablets.
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have yet to receive my Prime, so I can only speak hypothetically. There will be more Tegra 3 devices out this year. There will be many many coming out, probably soon. With CES starting this week, I wouldn't doubt that there will be some coming out around March or so. That being said, you are essentially (it sounds to me) trying to convince yourself to keep it, not the other way around. If those defects are really deal breakers for you, take it back. Keep your money for now. If you can live without a tablet for a few months, then get rid of it, especially if you need something that will actually work for what you need right now. If I were in your shoes and needed the tablet's bluetooth, GPS, and WEP wifi, I would return the thing and do one of two things: wait for new items to come out this summer, or purchase a good Tegra 2 device right now with no known issues. Like I said, it sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself to keep it rather than convincing yourself to get rid of it. It is something shiny and new with amazing specs, something that is probably causing your hesitation. But there will be numerous shiny new things out this year with equally good specs or better. Just my 2 cents. Take it how you will.
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Well put Wasabi.
I also have not received my prime (pre-ordered Champange from BB on 11/29), but personally the concerns you (the OP) bring up will not be big deals for me. The GPS thing is not a deal breaker for me. I (as well as most people) do not plan on using the thing for navigation (I have my phone for that). And as far as Wifi goes, if I were in a position where I wasn't able to receive Wifi reception or the signal strength was just too weak for my needs then I would simply turn on Wifi tethering on my phone.
So if I were in your shoes, I definitely would not return the device over the concerns that you have brought up.
I love the Prime. Sure the GPS is non-existant and the WIFI is iffy, but it's a slick deal. The feel in the hands is priceless, and the performance is excellent. What if you return it and get something else in a couple of months and then that tablet also has issues? It's a revolving door with technology today. Don't like the product you have? Wait until tomorrow and there will be something better. I say stick with it. That's what I've chosen to do, and I've even committed to the dock.
Oh, and by the way. I distinctly remember that Best Buy was offering returns until the 24th of January on all tech purchased right before Christmas.
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If there is really nothing wrong with it other than known issues, sell it on eBay and make a profit. It is obvious to me from the OP that you are not really happy with it. No reason to keep it in the hopes you will start to like it.
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I am in the same boat right now. According to best buy, anything purchased between dec 13th-dec 24th qualifies for the extended return date of jan 24.
I am hoping ICS on the 12th will help with the GPS, Wifi issues. If not my prime will be going back for sure. The wifi is a BIG issue as i am in hotels a lot also, GPS is not as big but still needed for some of the apps i run so would also be a deal killer.
Reading on other units it seems that the Toshiba Thrive 10" appears to be the most trouble free with good wifi and gps, many others seem to suffer from connection issues also. So confusing at times, spec wise the Prime is killer and the price is good but severely crippled with major problems - Lets hope ICS helps.
>it seems that the Toshiba Thrive 10" appears to be the most trouble free
For me, the Prime's #1 advantage remains the integrated keyboard dock. I need something that's light with good battery life and a good screen for writing (and straight writing of draft copies; cleanup/formatting work is done on my desktop).
If the Prime weren't available, I'd go for an ultrabook (probably a Zenbook UX31) and a Kindle Fire. Long story short: if you want to use the dock, then the Prime is the only choice. If you don't care about the dock, then there will probably be better choices available in the next few months.
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So confusing at times, spec wise the Prime is killer and the price is good but severely crippled with major problems - Lets hope ICS helps.
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Hold on. The Prime is not "severely crippled". The GPS is not a component that allows the tablet to function, it's only an accessory. If the processor had an issue, say, burning up and rendering the tablet useless, I'd say that would qualify as severely crippled. And the WIFI works. No one anywhere has said that there WIFI just simply doesn't function.
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Really this is the second or third post I've seen this on today. Someone already let the OP know his "ERROR" this is like an overused tag line.
Im in the fence as well. As I said in another thread I don't want this to be the 2012 Blackberry playbook that store are dumping 6 mos from now. If the price point were lower id be more confident. But based on anything I think im keeping it. The dock will help keep it unique. A month from now if im discouraged there will still be ebay where prices stay higher longer.
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You have a TP so make your own call. Ignoring what the internet has to say, have YOU had a problem with the wi-fi reception. Or more to the point given your experience a hotels do you feel that the TP would have problems in the hotels you go to and would it be a deal breaker? If so return it. Is WEP critical for you? If so return it. Otherwise I would keep it.
The TP seems to be very close to stock so should be inline for easy upgrades. It is a risk the Asus will stop supporting it earlier thn we like but I think with the ICS upgrade we should be good for a while. I would be more worried about picking up a tablet with a heavily customized interface. They, in my experience, would be the more likely not to support android upgrades moving forward.
My TP wifi reception is on par with my Macbook air and GN so I have no complaints there. I would guess if the TP had accessing a hotel AP chances are the rest of my equipment, with the exception of my HP laptop, would also have problems.
GPS has been a bit less predictable but it is not a showstopper for me (though it is a disappointment) . If I used the TP for navigation in car I would probably invest in a stand and a external GPS puck. Again not optimal but acceptable for me.
Overall I am pleased with my purchase and the functionality it provides, especially when you include the keyboard dock. I tend not to use the dock on the go bit when I am at my desk I find myself continuing to use the TP where the xoom basically was just charging till I left my desk.
The screen is quite pleasant and a significant factor in the system. I have not used a lot of different tablets but from what I have seen the TPs screen is superior to most androietablets and on par with the ipad2.
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There is this website like 1 Sale A Day called Woot and they had refurbished Toshiba Thrives 10" the other day with 90 day warranties. Me and my friend were looking into it but I had my heart set on this one and am glad I got the Prime. I have read people with problems and have read people who love it and have no problems at all. And GPS isn't a big deal for me on the tablet but I hope wifi is good. I have a small 1BR condo and my phone does great on wifi but sometimes has a little problem getting on my works wifi but I hope this does good when I am working. I hope I get a good tablet with nothing wrong and I can't wait to get it. I did kind of like the Toshiba Thrive cause of having a USB but I can deal with not having one here and I think I may eventually get the dock now. And I know here in 5-6 months more quad core tablets will be out but I had my Archos for a year so I plan on keeping this one for a pretty long time. LOL!
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wynand32 said:
For me, the Prime's #1 advantage remains the integrated keyboard dock.
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This.
Even when other Teg3 tablets come out (probably even the high res Asus) the most distinguishing feature of the Prime will be its keyboard dock. And that's a real important feature for quite a few people.
Ask yourself this. How important are the following features to you:
1) GPS
2) Super Strong Wi-Fi
3) An HD display
4) More RAM
5) Higher clock speed
6) Price
If 6 is important, other tablets are probably going to be more expensive. If having the latest and greatest is important to you, than other tablets will have 3, 4, and 5. If you're willing to pay more, you'll get those extra features along with 1 and 2. If the docks important you really don't have another choice. Everyone on a public forum has different needs and priorities so you're not going to get a definitive answer to your question.
For what it's worth, ever since the case issue went viral I haven't seen any price drop on the TF201. In fact it's now gone up by over $100 at Amazon and Ebay. Go figure, imo the demand is far higher than returns. If Asus comes up with a fix that works, it will bring back the doubting fans, no doubt.
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Wohooo! Luv your smile!
These threads are so LAME. I keep sitting hear reading all these complaints, undecisiveness, this or that. while I've been sitting here with my device since 12/22 enjoying it. other than GPS, mine has no issues. if so unhappy or whatever about it, just take it back end of story. wait till next device rolls around. then hope you won't be going through same ordeal against as all devices when first released has their bugs or gripes. Don't look for XDA to hold your hand and tell you everything going to be OK. Xda just tells you like it is. its completely understandable if issues affecting your device are too much for you. remember you can always exchange it also. plus people mostly commenting on wifi issues is blowing b.s. I've extensively tested my Prime against my Ipad and Atrix4g. Prime performs right on par with those as far as wifi speeds, strength, range, and stability goes.
Maybe you should read the positive transformer prime thread. where people such as your self was conicnced of this or that wrong. People reading all these posts on negative things. Then these people realized they are so glad they didn't let the negative things spread here on XDA about the Prime influence them. just take a look at all the testimonials in there..lol
Honestly. even once new devices come out, it won't be at the great value Prime is. expect them to be alot more expensive. Also whoever said March will show new devices comparable to prime out is mistaken. only device that has the best chance of being released around d that time is Ipad3. Apple has already just announced some big press conference or show coming up to announce something. More than likely ipad3 and Ipad mini.
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For what it's worth, ever since the case issue went viral I haven't seen any price drop on the TF201. In fact it's now gone up by over $100 at Amazon and Ebay. Go figure, imo the demand is far higher than returns. If Asus comes up with a fix that works, it will bring back the doubting fans, no doubt.
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Wohooo! Luv your smile!
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no since in trying to convince the nay Sayers. Prime is already a success as its constantly selling out in preorders and price even went up on it. Prime will never be the ho touchpad or blackberry fail.....lmao.
mods should just start shutting down all these threads as they pop up or at least merge them with other ones. plus its in the wrong section..lmal
secret_skwerl said:
Ok so I have till tomorrow to return my Transformer Prime to Best Buy. Then it will be 14 days since I received it from bestbuy.com.
I'm truly concerned about the many issues that have been found on this device. Yes, I know it's new and yes, I know ICS is coming the 12th.
What my concern is, is that no matter of software tweaking will fix pogosticks in the hardware, or poor antenna placement (GPS, WiFi & BT), poor case design which interferes with the GPS signal. If it was just a GPS issue I would be like whatever I have my phone for navigation and it can determine my general location well enough for apps. The WiFi issue is a big one for me. I travel. I stay in hotels. Which don't always have the best of reception or signal strength for WiFi. I'm also disappointed that the WiFi doesn't play nice with WEP (Well, at least mine doesn't). Some offices I visit only have WEP setup. It is also troublesome it doesn't have 5 gHz Wifi, but not a deal breaker. I have typically always loved and enjoyed my ASUS products. I have been using their motherboards for years.
I don't have the money to invest into another device in 5-6 months. I'm at my wits end on this. I can see the potential but the possibility of this turning into a $500 misfit from the land of broken tablets is great. I need honest opinions and input. I have been trolling this board for weeks while waiting for it to come and i have seen people both happy and not with their Prime. I truly do not know what to do. Stick it out and take whatever lumps or bring it back and wait for the next round of Tegra 3 tablets.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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You have till the 24th!!! I'm returning/swapping mine out for a nonfuckedup one too. I called bb yesterday. Its some special holiday return policy.
Lady on the phone was going to overnite me one but couldn't cuz there weren't any. Wha wha
I then called some stores....gonna get some inventory on the 9th!!! I'm in socal tho...
My GPS is botched and so is my serial number. But I LOVE this thing. Should be all good on the 9th
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Only you can make the decision. If you have doubts about your happiness with it, and your purchase isn't giving you the thrill you expected, then return it. If you like it, and don't think the issues will bother you then keep it.
Those who are trying to convince you to keep it remind me of a story many years ago. I was thinking of buying an early first generation VW diesel vehicle. An old man I knew owned one. When I asked him about it he bragged and bragged about the fuel mileage and all all the advantages. I couldn't wait to buy one. Soon after I did, all kinds of problems kept appearing, making me very unhappy, and I eventually sold it at a huge loss after several months, just happy to be rid of it. When I saw him again and told him about the problems, he agreed that he also had many. When I asked him why he had bragged on it so highly. His reply was, "Son, you know misery loves company!"
I'll never forget that. His quote does seem to be true at times.
EDIT: I have some new information. Check the following thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439582
BELOW is the original Thread.
RETURN YOUR TF201!!!
I am. Granted I have not just the GPS issue, but BT/WiFi fail as well. But you guys know that ASUS released this device knowing full well that the GPS was not going to work and I can't imagine they didn't catch the BT issue prior to release too. The only way they missed the BT issue is if the BT issue is caused by whatever quick fix they used to solve the initial BT issues reported by a reviewer(s).
By acquiescing, you are telling ASUS and every other manufacturer that this behavior is okay. That when faced with a choice of scrapping a device in the manufacturing stage for a significant loss, or releasing it to the public and letting the cards fall where they may for less of a loss, that they should screw the consumer. Depending on the extent of the issues with the TF201, they would have had to replace the backs of all TF201s at the least, perhaps more. If everyone, or enough people return the device then you are sending a message that this is unacceptable. We Androids know that we aren't getting perfect Apple devices, but we don't accept such blatant insults. I am also going to be reporting this issue to the Better Business Bureau and I think you should as well. Their response to the GPS issue is nothing short of a case of bait and switch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait-and-switch said:
Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud, most commonly used in retail sales but also applicable to other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by advertising for a product or service at a low price; second, the customers discover that the advertised good is not available and are "switched" to a costlier product.
The goal of the bait-and-switch is to persuade buyers to purchase the substitute goods as a means of avoiding disappointment over not getting the bait, or as a way to recover sunk costs expended to try to obtain the bait. It suggests that the seller will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher margin.
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Without internal documents I can't truly prove that they intentionally sold a flawed TF201 with the intent to recover costs incurred before the problem was identified. But one of two things happened.
1. They caught the issue and upon determining it to be unfixable they released the device anyway to recoup whatever costs they could.
2. They are so stupid, which is possible because they released and ALL-ALUMINUM back in the first place, that their testing methods failed to catch the fact the GPS was so **** that even standing in the middle of a road with no obstructions it can take FOREVER to find your location. Until the fix to download GPS coordinates over WiFi, in a week of delivering pizzas the tablet never managed to figure out that Las Vegas wasn't Toronto.
I favor the first possibility because as bad as GPS is for me, I can't see it being possible that they didn't catch it.
For now I am back to my TF101 which works flawlessly for my uses.
EDIT: Now I've gotten my valid raging out of the way. I admit that were I only victim to the GPS issue, I would probably keep the tablet. But I still urge those of you keeping your tablets to file a report with the Better Business Bureau over ASUS' handling of the GPS issue. They advertised a feature and now they simply act as if it never happened and have offered nothing as recompense.
cool post bro..but sorry I can't care less about the GPS and I love prime so no way I'll return it
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cool post bro..but sorry I can't care less about the GPS and I love prime so no way I'll return it
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You sir, are part of the problem. I don't care about GPS either. It's the principal of the matter and the precedent it sets. Your 500+ dollars is 500 reasons for ASUS and the next company that has a choice to release a knowingly broken device because people like you will just accept the lubed up rod they have for you.
I am giving ASUS a chance to send me a replacement unit. If they send me one and it doesn't have the BT/WiFi issue my faith will be restored and I will not report them to the BBB and any tech blog/news site that will listen to the story and read/post the correspondence between ASUS and myself. I like my TF101. I want ASUS to make this right
What exactly does this have to do with the future of Android? I can see your point (sort of), but this is a technology issue and has nothing to do with Android. Companies, regardless of their operating system, have done this sort of thing for years. I'm not saying that it's right, but it has nothing to do with the future of Android or any other operating system. Yes, Asus probably should have held this product a little longer for more tests, but they did release the first quad-core device running ICS to the world. It has a few minor defects, but those are to be expected for the first run of products like this. I say, if you're so upset, do the only thing that you can do as a consumer...don't purchase the product. That tells the company that YOU are not happy with it. Posting in a forum like this saying that we need to return a device because you're not happy with it is kind of pointless. Just take it back and get something else.
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What exactly does this have to do with the future of Android? I can see your point (sort of), but this is a technology issue and has nothing to do with Android. Companies, regardless of their operating system, have done this sort of thing for years. I'm not saying that it's right, but it has nothing to do with the future of Android or any other operating system. Yes, Asus probably should have held this product a little longer for more tests, but they did release the first quad-core device running ICS to the world. It has a few minor defects, but those are to be expected for the first run of products like this. I say, if you're so upset, do the only thing that you can do as a consumer...don't purchase the product. That tells the company that YOU are not happy with it. Posting in a forum like this saying that we need to return a device because you're not happy with it is kind of pointless. Just take it back and get something else.
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Yea in my rage I forgot to get to my central point. I refer to what these kind of events do to the future of Android. Imagine where the iPhone would be if the iPhone 3G had an identical issue. Imagine all those happy iPhone 2G users selling their iPhone, and going home with a shiny new iPhone 3G only to find out that the GPS didn't work and that they couldn't browse the internet if they were playing music to a set of BT headphones or to some BT setup routed through their home/car stereo. Then if Apple decided to say that it's a phone, not a personal navigation device. Then they announced a new phone 2 weeks later and just released the iPhone 3Gs with the problems solved.. 3 or 4 months later.
Apple would likely have not survived such a fiasco since Apple is built on the premise of things just working and of having a superior end to end service. I blame ASUS for this problem. But the masses, the ones who go to Best Buy and buy a random tablet, would return this and from then on they would think Android was a bad platform. They would likely never learn that it was just the particular device that is bad. These kinds of things can't be allowed to happen if Android is to remain a viable alternative. The issues with this tablet are not your regular first run issues. First run issues are usually few and minor. GPS is all but useless, and for me and many others bluetooth is also useless. Is ASUS going to throw up their hands in another few weeks and say that this is not a dedicated MP3 player and take bluetooth off the spec sheet? If ASUS doesn't find me a tablet with working bluetooth I will be returning it. The point is that if the rest of you just accept the GPS problem, and the BT problem if you have it just because you don't use those features you are going to have the problem with the next device and the next one, or similar ones.
Last. STOP CALLING THIS A FRIGGIN EARLY ADOPTER OR FIRST GEN DEVICE. This is the TF201. The 2 differentiates it from the TF101. This device brings changes to the TF101. It is not an entirely new device.
My hands are itching to type "TL;DR", but unfortunately, I have in fact read all of the thread.
From where I'm sitting (Prime is in preorder, getting it this week), you're a frustrated user, venting your frustration the wrong way.
What did you expect when you created this topic? Did you think people would agree with you en-masse, and send their devices (which many people have been waiting a long time for) back straight away?
The reason I'm asking this question is that I think you didn't stop to think about it. If the product doesn't do what it's advertised to do, you're entitled to return it. If you feel you need to share your experience with the world, you can write a review. Be it to "protect" others, or simply express your outrage, a well written review gives everyone (you, others and the manufacturer) a chance to see your point more clearly.
Thus, I advise you to refrain from going on about this in here and write a comprehensive review, noting both the pro's and the cons. Then let other people decide what they do, instead of telling them what they should.
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Yea in my rage I forgot to get to my central point. I refer to what these kind of events do to the future of Android. Imagine where the iPhone would be if the iPhone 3G had an identical issue. Imagine all those happy iPhone 2G users selling their iPhone, and going home with a shiny new iPhone 3G only to find out that the GPS didn't work and that they couldn't browse the internet if they were playing music to a set of BT headphones or to some BT setup routed through their home/car stereo. Then if Apple decided to say that it's a phone, not a personal navigation device. Then they announced a new phone 2 weeks later and just released the iPhone 3Gs with the problems solved.. 3 or 4 months later.
Apple would likely have not survived such a fiasco since Apple is built on the premise of things just working and of having a superior end to end service. I blame ASUS for this problem. But the masses, the ones who go to Best Buy and buy a random tablet, would return this and from then on they would think Android was a bad platform. They would likely never learn that it was just the particular device that is bad. These kinds of things can't be allowed to happen if Android is to remain a viable alternative. The issues with this tablet are not your regular first run issues. First run issues are usually few and minor. GPS is all but useless, and for me and many others bluetooth is also useless. Is ASUS going to throw up their hands in another few weeks and say that this is not a dedicated MP3 player and take bluetooth off the spec sheet? If ASUS doesn't find me a tablet with working bluetooth I will be returning it. The point is that if the rest of you just accept the GPS problem, and the BT problem if you have it just because you don't use those features you are going to have the problem with the next device and the next one, or similar ones.
Last. STOP CALLING THIS A FRIGGIN EARLY ADOPTER OR FIRST GEN DEVICE. This is the TF201. The 2 differentiates it from the TF101. This device brings changes to the TF101. It is not an entirely new device.
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Instead of your iPhone 3G 'imagination', why not look at antennagate.... and as seen then, no one gave a damn (as seen by sales figures) even when it was a critical component, GSM being disrupted due to poor signal and even so Apple claimed that you were 'holding it wrong'. Asus has done no such thing, that imo already raises it far above Apple.
As for first-gen, I agree with the way Angelusz uses it because after all, this is the first Tegra 3 device, fullstop. There have to be kinks to be ironed out and all with a new SoC and there's no device before it using Tegra 3 so the usage is perfectly valid.
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Instead of your iPhone 3G 'imagination', why not look at antennagate.... and as seen then, no one gave a damn (as seen by sales figures) even when it was a critical component, GSM being disrupted due to poor signal and even so Apple claimed that you were 'holding it wrong'. Asus has done no such thing, that imo already raises it far above Apple.
As for first-gen, I agree with the way Angelusz uses it because after all, this is the first Tegra 3 device, fullstop. There have to be kinks to be ironed out and all with a new SoC and there's no device before it using Tegra 3 so the usage is perfectly valid.
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However, if they 3 days after that released a iPhone 4F(ix) then everyone would..
Unfortunantly many of us are unable to return our devices due to Retail return policies for tablets. I could get mine exchanged but that gets me nowhere.
They are getting mine back too.
I was willing to overlook GPS, but then Wifi turned sour and as a kick in the balls,
asus has announced a new tablet by advertising it as "an improved TF201".
Well Asus, funk that! You lost me!
That we're bringing up Apple devices is interesting, considering that the TF201 has better Wi-Fi performance than the original Wi-Fi iPad according to tests by a user here - Apple, too, made a device with an aluminium back (and the little window doesn't seem to have made much of a difference). How's that iPad's GPS reception? Oh, Apple doesn't put them in Wi-Fi iPads at all. Of course, the original iPad benefited from not having a previous, plastic device to compare it to, but there were still a lot of complaints:
As of late Monday, the thread titled "Weak wifi" led all others with more than 130 messages, and nearly 13,000 views.
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http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9174858/Wi_Fi_issues_dominate_iPad_user_complaints
So Apple made the same decision as Asus, didn't even give the option of GPS, got a lot of complaints, and... the iPad was a massive success. Apple devices, eh?
I do think that it was a bad idea for Asus to announce the TF700T now though. It's going to affect sales of the current device. It would have been better to wait until the end of Q1.
I think this young man makes a great point. Some of you have no use for GPS, I understand, but some of us that spends 500 would like to get our money worth. That means things should work as advertise. It is a bait and switch really. I'm not pissed that Asus came out with a new tablet, I'm pissed that my tablet is compromised and they're not doing anything about it. I can't take mine back because they don't refund. If you let these company do that, they'll continue to do that next time. Rush to release a product and hope that they can update it later, or if they can't, release a new model and let the customers suffer. Also, the hardware and the OS are almost synonymous, if you got a bad device, people will perceive the OS as bad as well. I know this is going to turn many people to getting an ipad even.
Now just as a devils advocate: is anyones gps COMPLETELY NON FUNCTIONING? I don't wanna hear weak, not good, sometimes, NON FUNCTIONING. If it is, you can get it replaced through RMA. Is it working at all? Then Asus didn't lie or make something up that wasn't true. I'm trying to think about this like a lawyer. Since the gps chip is functioning, it does get a signal and can handle most location acquisition tasks. I understand its not a Garmin but there was never a promise of this. GPS was a listed spec. It never made any claims as to its ability as a gps. This is where I see a problem with the Bait and Switch Argument.
Also, if everyones so damn smart here, then why didn't anyone think that the aluminum backing would have problems with signals? I think people are just a little mad maybe because they're so brilliant that overlooked something that everyone already knew would be a "problem"
In a week, my GPS has found exactly one satellite, promptly lost it and never did locate me. Left it in the car all day in a parking lot to see if it could sort itself out, all it did was drain the battery. Willing to look past it however, for the dock and battery life, and otherwise it was satisfactory (haven't tried BT/wifi yet, though, might be a deal killer)
Last night's ICS update gave me banding and market won't finish downloading anything, even post-wipe. Obviously fixable via software, but nonetheless the experience continues to fade. Plus, it's almost a doorstop while I have to sideload everything. Even my hacked-to-death Pandigital novel that I got at Kohls with some socks and 30% discount coupon is more stable than this.
There is no way that this product was conceived solely to make high schoolers pee themselves over frame rates on XDA. Businesses are going to begin equipping employees en masse with tablets of some sort, and thus far this was Android's best shot at heading off Apple, because it is a familiar form factor that Apple doesn't yet offer. I am in a role where I get to have some input on this issue for my Fortune 500 company, and I simply can't imagine showing this mess to the IT stakeholders like I had originally hoped. Keeping mine for now, but I see the OP's point of this being a strike against Android for enterprise, which is where the money has barely been tapped.
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Yea in my rage I forgot to get to my central point. I refer to what these kind of events do to the future of Android. Imagine where the iPhone would be if the iPhone 3G had an identical issue. Imagine all those happy iPhone 2G users selling their iPhone, and going home with a shiny new iPhone 3G only to find out that the GPS didn't work and that they couldn't browse the internet if they were playing music to a set of BT headphones or to some BT setup routed through their home/car stereo. Then if Apple decided to say that it's a phone, not a personal navigation device. Then they announced a new phone 2 weeks later and just released the iPhone 3Gs with the problems solved.. 3 or 4 months later.
Apple would likely have not survived such a fiasco since Apple is built on the premise of things just working and of having a superior end to end service. I blame ASUS for this problem. But the masses, the ones who go to Best Buy and buy a random tablet, would return this and from then on they would think Android was a bad platform. They would likely never learn that it was just the particular device that is bad. These kinds of things can't be allowed to happen if Android is to remain a viable alternative. The issues with this tablet are not your regular first run issues. First run issues are usually few and minor. GPS is all but useless, and for me and many others bluetooth is also useless. Is ASUS going to throw up their hands in another few weeks and say that this is not a dedicated MP3 player and take bluetooth off the spec sheet? If ASUS doesn't find me a tablet with working bluetooth I will be returning it. The point is that if the rest of you just accept the GPS problem, and the BT problem if you have it just because you don't use those features you are going to have the problem with the next device and the next one, or similar ones.
Last. STOP CALLING THIS A FRIGGIN EARLY ADOPTER OR FIRST GEN DEVICE. This is the TF201. The 2 differentiates it from the TF101. This device brings changes to the TF101. It is not an entirely new device.
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this did happen with the iphone 4 and the botched antenna. apple just gave out free bumpers and they're doing fine
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That we're bringing up Apple devices is interesting, considering that the TF201 has better Wi-Fi performance than the original Wi-Fi iPad according to tests by a user here - Apple, too, made a device with an aluminium back (and the little window doesn't seem to have made much of a difference). How's that iPad's GPS reception? Oh, Apple doesn't put them in Wi-Fi iPads at all. Of course, the original iPad benefited from not having a previous, plastic device to compare it to, but there were still a lot of complaints:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9174858/Wi_Fi_issues_dominate_iPad_user_complaints
So Apple made the same decision as Asus, didn't even give the option of GPS, got a lot of complaints, and... the iPad was a massive success. Apple devices, eh?
I do think that it was a bad idea for Asus to announce the TF700T now though. It's going to affect sales of the current device. It would have been better to wait until the end of Q1.
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Thx man finally someone who thinks. Was just about to suggest to the thread started to get an ipad. You wont get a better product but marketing makes you believe that everythings fine.
TF700T? I dont see why I should pay another 100-150$ to have some more pixels that i only see when i hold the device 1cm before my eye.
Also the plastic thing on top looks bad.
blah blah blah blah "I'm miserable, so you should be miserable too."
If you're unhappy about how ASUS has handled the situation, then go ahead and go to the BBB...call ASUS....Call the retailer you bought it from. Complaining about it on a forum isn't going to do anything but allow you to vent. After that, it just turns into crying and whining. Sitting here day after day after day complaining about the same thing isn't going to fix a damn thing. If you're that upset about it....do something worthwhile about it.
Believe it or not, some people are not having BT/WiFi issues. I'm not. I really like my Prime....and frankly, I don't want to send it in just to wait for something else that may or may not be coming out in a couple months and may or may not be any better. Maybe they're rushing the next one out as well and it'll have it's own slew of problems. So please, stop telling me if I should be happy with my Prime or not and what I should do with it just because you are having problems.
It's not going to destroy Android. It's not going to hurt Android. If anything, It'll hurt ASUS.
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Thx man finally someone who thinks. Was just about to suggest to the thread started to get an ipad. You wont get a better product but marketing makes you believe that everythings fine.
TF700T? I dont see why I should pay another 100-150$ to have some more pixels that i only see when i hold the device 1cm before my eye.
Also the plastic thing on top looks bad.
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Cant wait til the trolls are gone
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blah blah blah blah "I'm miserable, so you should be miserable too."
If you're unhappy about how ASUS has handled the situation, then go ahead and go to the BBB...call ASUS....Call the retailer you bought it from. Complaining about it on a forum isn't going to do anything but allow you to vent. After that, it just turns into crying and whining. Sitting here day after day after day complaining about the same thing isn't going to fix a damn thing. If you're that upset about it....do something worthwhile about it.
Believe it or not, some people are not having BT/WiFi issues. I'm not. I really like my Prime....and frankly, I don't want to send it in just to wait for something else that may or may not be coming out in a couple months and may or may not be any better. Maybe they're rushing the next one out as well and it'll have it's own slew of problems. So please, stop telling me if I should be happy with my Prime or not and what I should do with it just because you are having problems.
It's not going to destroy Android. It's not going to hurt Android. If anything, It'll hurt ASUS.
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'VALUE THE FUTURE OF ANDROID' is like saying returning your Prime will save the world lol. I'm with this guy, if you don't like it call the BBB, Asus, and your retailer and make them take it back but you're *****ing at the wrong people. Even though I've had to RMA mine for screen bleed, I'm still highly impressed with Prime
So, I'm getting really frustrated with all of the stuff I've been reading about the Prime. I got mine just before Christmas and it hasn't given me any major problems, a couple of nuisance things here and there. But what I'm worried about is the talk of it being discontinued already, what kind of dev support is this going to get, the possibility of some issues popping up down the road, and the feeling of having paid $500 for a flawed product. I've been holding off from returning it in hopes of some miracle fix coming along or some announcement from ASUS that they'll offer some sort of upgrade for the early adopters. But, as I get close to my 30 day return window closing, i have to consider what to do...
So, if you were going to buy something today that isn't the Prime, what would it be, and why?
Also, do you think my logic is flawed? Should i continue to "wait and see"?
Thanks for your input.
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I returned mine, and bought the original TF-101. It can't match the Prime is processor power, but everything on it works perfectly, and it was $100 cheaper.
There is no alternative. Stop feeding into the rumours n hype. I'd you would take a look in Android developement you would already see we got alot going on. We got root less than a couple days after ICS release. We already have overclocking on the prime. We already have Linux running on prime. Come on now.. Plus most people spreading the rumours don't know jack or even own a prime. There are lots of people without even owning the device taking b.s. and spreading stuff like they know what's going on. Most rumor threads are always false n should be taken with a grain of salt. There are members here out to bash the prime or make it look bad so to try to scare people off from it. READ the positive threads more instead of the nonsense..lol
People will believe anything they read SMH lmfao
I like how you changed it to Discuss..lol.
Rumors of discontinue? Replacements with better model?
The problem here is that talk is cheap, and you need to filter out the signal from the noise. If you're happy with your product, then that should be the informing factor. Technology will always be improving and you just have to jump in where you think is best.
I'm not sorry I returned mine. It's a relief to no longer have the Asus dark cloud hanging over my head. I too am looking for a replacement.
Also, there is another thread here today showing a retailer which has already discounted them to $399. Are the fire sales already starting?
The only reason I could see them discontinuing it would be to release a Prime with a new casing fixing the major issues. If they do this I couldn't see them not allowing Prime owners a swap.
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The only reason I could see them discontinuing it would be to release a Prime with a new casing fixing the major issues. If they do this I couldn't see them not allowing Prime owners a swap.
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This.
Either the current model is not being discontinued (most likely), or they're redesigning it, in which case, they'd have to allow people to RMA/swap out the exisiting model.
The original TF101 and dock or wait to see what the equal from Lenovo is like - as I want the dock! Nite well that had my OG not ended up in it's current damaged state, I would not have bought the Prime.
Now if all I wanted was a tablet, I would probably have gotten the TF101 or the Galaxy Tab (either the aging 10.1 or the newer 7.x). The Samsung having had a 3G version that my carrier used to carry would have sinched it, for the same price point as a TF+dock. Nota bene: while the first Gen of Galaxy Tab 10.1 does have a keyboard dock available for like $80, it doesn't have a battery or net book folding feature like the Transformers do.
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This.
Either the current model is not being discontinued (most likely), or they're redesigning it, in which case, they'd have to allow people to RMA/swap out the exisiting model.
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I hope they do the latter, it would boost their reputation highly after the near-disaster launch for their PR department. They could even gut the old Primes and then just put the main componants into the new casing and then sell them off at a slightly lower price so they will be hardly losing anything. Either way, I'm still pleased with my Prime, the Wi-Fi works decently in my house where I'll be almost exclusively using it and GPS is a non-issue for me anyway.
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I'm not sorry I returned mine. It's a relief to no longer have the Asus dark cloud hanging over my head. I too am looking for a replacement.
Also, there is another thread here today showing a retailer which has already discounted them to $399. Are the fire sales already starting?
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$100 cheaper is not a fire sale..lol OTA called a Promo
as far as i can tell, the new t700 will have the same specs except the screen res, as long as we have a few good dev's here we should be ok regardless, i would imagine that alot of the roms that take advantage of the tegra 3 and the radio's on the t700 would be easy enough to apply to the tf201 with some tinkering, and like others have said we already got some good stuff going on in the dev section.
if you want to feel better about your prime go and hang out in there for a a bit the general and q&a portions of the forum have become like the weekly world tabloids, running rampant with rumors of 5 legged bat children and the Bermuda triangle of GPS signals....
i'm right there with you, the loss of dev support is more important to me then almost any other aspect of the tablet it's self, i have never bought a device that the manufacture was more prompt and robust then what some dev random dev has come up with in his moms basement, kind of sad when you think about it. that some multi million dollar corp isn't as good as a few guys just hanging on the internet with a passion, seems like HR needs to find guys who love their job....anyways hang in there and we have a 1 year warranty on our product, all else fails hook it up to a car battery and send it back....lol
When mine was running Honeycomb, I was going to return it and wait for the iPad 3. The Prime was slow and apps were closing and unpredictable.
After the ICS update, this Transformer Prime is hummin' like a beast out of Hades. I love it. I just got the keyboard dock, and now it looks like a netbook. LOL.
Anyway, for those with TP issues, keep talking with ASUS so that they can resolve the issues. I have to say that their customer service has been very strong. If this were Apple, they'd be denying there were any issues!
That being said, if you want a table that has no issues and just works, get an iPad. It may lack some of the technological sophistication that the latest Android tabs have, but that is balanced by a very stable platform.
The purpose of this poll is to shed some light on how many XDA members have problems with their units and how many do not. I don't care how many old similar threads there were in the past. After 2 months on the market, I and others, would like to see what owners think of their Prime and it's advertised features.
This thread is not meant to flame Asus or the TF201.
A simple yes, no or undecided will suffice.
Before voting please take the time to properly try out your Prime with Android 4.0(ICS) installed.
*** Mods. PLEASE don't close this poll. I am on my 5th Prime and I need to get a current idea of how many XDA owners have a good Prime. So that I and others can make an informed decision wether or not to continue playing Russian Roulette in hopes of getting a good Prime or just give up and move on. Thank You***
Yes, I am.
It's almost like a trick question.
Am I satisfied with my Prime? Yes.
Am I satisfied with its properly functioning features? Yes.
Are all its features properly functioning? No.
Therefore, personally, I'd say yes, I'm satisfied with it and its advertised functions; albeit one of those advertised functions does not work. I love it and wouldn't want a 300t or 700t if their ugly arses were out today.
More "professionally," (speaking for the general masses) of course not. How could I be? Screen bleed, dead pixels, possibly incomplete circuit boards: these things are easily someone's fault other than ASUS's (apart from lacking QC), as in whoever manufactured/supplied the screens and boards. But how these things are put together and tested is all their business, and many units are put together lacking advertised features altogether or showing HUGE variations of issues if they're not lacking, and being shipped without apparently ever even being turned on to have a glance at the bootscreen. And of course they wouldn't test every single device, but if they tested any proper number of devices per batch, they would have seen every issue (probably did) and should have stopped.
WoW!! 5 to 1 so far. I guess my local Bestbuy and Gamestop received a bad batch. If the majority continues to vote in favor of being completely satisfied with the TF201 and all of it's advertised features by a large margin, then Asus has done their job and it would be hard to argue otherwise.
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It's almost like a trick question.
Am I satisfied with my Prime? Yes.
Am I satisfied with its properly functioning features? Yes.
Are all its features properly functioning? No.
Therefore, personally, I'd say yes, I'm satisfied with it and its advertised functions; albeit one of those advertised functions does not work. I love it and wouldn't want a 300t or 700t if their ugly arses were out today.
More "professionally," (speaking for the general masses) of course not. How could I be? Screen bleed, dead pixels, possibly incomplete circuit boards: these things are easily someone's fault other than ASUS's (apart from lacking QC), as in whoever manufactured/supplied the screens and boards. But how these things are put together and tested is all their business, and many units are put together lacking advertised features altogether or showing HUGE variations of issues if they're not lacking, and being shipped without apparently ever even being turned on to have a glance at the bootscreen. And of course they wouldn't test every single device, but if they tested any proper number of devices per batch, they would have seen every issue (probably did) and should have stopped.
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Well said. I respect your opinion and your vote.
Now that I have a Prime where everything works (as posted, within the advertised functions), I love mine. It's fast, well-built, has an excellent screen, and I can read the damn thing in direct sunlight (which was what excited me the most about the Prime).
So, I'm quite satisfied.
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WoW!! 5 to 1 so far. I guess my local Bestbuy and Gamestop received a bad batch. If the majority continues to vote in favor of being completely satisfied with the TF201 and all of it's advertised features by a large margin, then Asus has done their job and it would be hard to argue otherwise.
Well said. I respect your opinion and your vote.
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It always turns out like this..lmfao. we had a thread just days ago shut down with exact same poll. That poll showed a total of over 80% saying yes, they satisfied with their primes and that they keeping it. WITHOUT A DOUBT, THERE ARE DEFECTIVE UNITS OUT THERE...BUT there's an even greater number out there that isn't and they truly love their prime. Ill admit, its surreal hearing about about people going thru several devices before getting a good one. I must have great luck to have my only 1 unit from Gamestop since 12/22, early batch, n it works great, looks great, display great, and wireless is great(aside from GPS of course..lol but now I learned how to use my phone as an external GPS reciever so I'm good).
If this poll ends by a large percentage voting yes. I will purchase my 6th prime at the other Bestbuy across town. I too want a PERFECTLY working Prime NOW!! Believe it or not. I'm too embarrased to buy another prime at my local gamestop or Bestbuy again. Through my 5 defective Primes, even I can see that the Prime is an amazing device as long as BT,Wifi and BT & WiFi work at the same time minus all the other issues. My last 5 Primes couldn't make it out of my living room 15ft away from my E4200 router.
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Ill admit, its surreal hearing about about people going thru several devices before getting a good one.
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Actually, I'm no longer surprised by this. It seems that consumer technology products in general suffer from initial build quality issues nowadays. For example, I went through three HP Envy 14 notebooks before getting a good one (bad keyboard lighting, bad DVD drive, broken fan that sounded like a jet aircraft taking off). I went through three Samsung Epic 4G's before getting one where the capacitive buttons all worked. I went through two Motorola Photons until I got one where the haptic feedback worked. All of those were purchased within a month or two of their respective launches.
And, I hate to say, I went through eight (yes, 8) Primes before getting one without a defective component (none of which included relatively weak wifi or GPS). Each and every Prime had something that either didn't work or was defective--and I'm not terribly picky. Two had screens that were atrocious (yellow tint, horrible colors), one had a stuck pixel and excessive light bleed (and I don't consider minimal light bleed to be an actual flaw with IPS screens) along with a bad speaker (broke up at higher volumes), one had an ugly chemical stain on the backplate and a bad speaker, one had a rattle near a docking connector that clearly indicated something broken loose inside, etc., etc.
I think that if you want to avoid getting defective units today, you need to wait a minimum of three months after launch to let the manufacturer work out the kinks. And I think that applies to every manufacturer today, bar none.
That said, my latest Prime is excellent. The other C1 unit I had was also excellent, except it had a clump of dead pixels in a place I couldn't ignore--and with millions of transistors, that kind of thing is bound to happen occasionally. So, I do think that maybe ASUS is close to being able to make a consistent product. It took them longer than I would have liked, certainly...
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If this poll ends by a large percentage voting yes. I will purchase my 6th prime at the other Bestbuy across town. I too want a PERFECTLY working Prime NOW!! Believe it or not. I'm too embarrased to buy another prime at my local gamestop or Bestbuy again. Through my 5 defective Primes, even I can see that the Prime is an amazing device as long as BT,Wifi and BT & WiFi work at the same time minus all the other issues. My last 5 Primes couldn't make it out of my living room 15ft away from my E4200 router.
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I feel what you saying n what you went through. Its just so hard to believe 5 primes wifi was that bad. Doesn't make no sense. Tablet is basically useless for online functions if wifi not up to par.
As far as what you said if large percentage vote yes, you might as well head out the door now n get your 6th. One. Prime supporters will be out n full force giving an honest vote.
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I feel what you saying n what you went through. Its just so hard to believe 5 primes wifi was that bad. Doesn't make no sense. Tablet is basically useless for online functions if wifi not up to par.
As far as what you said if large percentage vote yes, you might as well head out the door now n get your 6th. One. Prime supporters will be out n full force giving an honest vote.
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I already have 2 C1's on hold at a bestbuy here on the other side of town. After I see a large MAJORITY saying yes, after work I'll drive over there and test them in the store for defects. If these variables pan out to work in Asus's favor, I 'll re-welcome myself as a 6x TF201 owner.
I am now but had to go through 4. Terrible wifi, really bad light bleed (not just seen on a black screen) and dead pixels plauged my first three but with the c1 I got, all the problems are still there but not noticeable during normal usage.
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I just tried once. Bad gps bad wifi, and no useable wifi/bluetooth. Had bad screen bleed on left side. Took unit back. I'll try in a month.
Btw an 80% good build rate is not anything to brag about. That's pretty horrible. You need in the upper 90,s to have a successful product launch.
I have only one Prime and everything is great. Wifi is better than on my phone (Xperia Arc), but I haven't tried GPS. And everything else works great
No. I had one early launch and it had horrible WiFi with and without using Bluetooth. So, I brought it back to BestBuy. I had none of the other problems I have read about (didn't test GPS since I dont need it). Even ICS seemed to work perfectly. I have another being shipped from BB.com and I'm hoping it's a C1 since it seems like there has been better luck with the newer ones.
I'm leaving now to go and purchase my 6th prime. It's amazing how many people so far voted here in favor of a fully working Prime when I got 5 lemons in a row. I'm going to upgrade to ICS, right in the store.
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I'm leaving now to go and purchase my 6th prime. It's amazing how many people so far voted here in favor of a fully working Prime when I got 5 lemons in a row. I'm going to upgrade to ICS, right in the store.
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That'll be a smart move. If they let you test out device first before you take it home. Good luck! I hope this is the "One" for you.
Hard question to qualify
EDIT: Almost forgot. My current Prime is a C1 serial. They are not immune form defect, but they seem to be showing better percentages, if the rhetoric and anecdotal information is to be believed.
You know, it has all the POTENTIAL in the world. But apart from the poor R&D, testing, engineering, choice of materials, assembly, QC,supply chain and delivery woes, inconsistent build quality, etc., etc., etc., it's just freakin' AWESOME!!
I got luck, pretty much in #2 unit I got... It says VERY LITTLE for a company and it's product when buying one is a game of Russian roulette. Not that bad when you actually CAN exchange it and try, try again. But what about everyone for the first 5-6 weeks, when there WAS NO STOCK TO EXCHANGE IT FOR? You either a)gave it up, and had nothing (at least for a while), b) kept it with all it's foibles, or c) returned it and waited till stocks picked up to try again.
It does concern me that while Best Buy appears to be increasing it's stock levels, Amazon is STILL not showing that they have any intention of making this product available. I am not able to discern what this means precisely, but that, on top of all the previews of new tablets Asus is possibly releasing it gives me a bad feeling. A really bad feeling. oh... but yes. I love my Prime... REALLY, NO ****
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I'm leaving now to go and purchase my 6th prime. It's amazing how many people so far voted here in favor of a fully working Prime when I got 5 lemons in a row. I'm going to upgrade to ICS, right in the store.
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Depends on your definition of a "Lemon" If you are expecting perfection (or "Persistent Perfection" LOL) you won't be getting it anytime soon with Asus. The TF101 was awesome, and just as inconsistent, though not as riddled with issues. I had 3 of them in my search for a good one, (and I think 4 keyboards) In the end, I STILL never got a Keyboard and tablet that had matching metalic finish. I am not sure if thatwas supply side,, or if they built them at multiple plant locations, but they were inconsistent as hell.
And I thought Apple fanboys were bad! lol
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EDIT: Almost forgot. My current Prime is a C1 serial. They are not immune form defect, but they seem to be showing better percentages, if the rhetoric and anecdotal information is to be believed.
You know, it has all the POTENTIAL in the world. But apart from the poor R&D, testing, engineering, choice of materials, assembly, QC,supply chain and delivery woes, inconsistent build quality, etc., etc., etc., it's just freakin' AWESOME!!
I got luck, pretty much in #2 unit I got... It says VERY LITTLE for a company and it's product when buying one is a game of Russian roulette. Not that bad when you actually CAN exchange it and try, try again. But what about everyone for the first 5-6 weeks, when there WAS NO STOCK TO EXCHANGE IT FOR? You either a)gave it up, and had nothing (at least for a while), b) kept it with all it's foibles, or c) returned it and waited till stocks picked up to try again.
It does concern me that while Best Buy appears to be increasing it's stock levels, Amazon is STILL not showing that they have any intention of making this product available. I am not able to discern what this means precisely, but that, on top of all the previews of new tablets Asus is possibly releasing it gives me a bad feeling. A really bad feeling. oh... but yes. I love my Prime... REALLY, NO ****
Depends on your definition of a "Lemon" If you are expecting perfection (or "Persistent Perfection" LOL) you won't be getting it anytime soon with Asus. The TF101 was awesome, and just as inconsistent, though not as riddled with issues. I had 3 of them in my search for a good one, (and I think 4 keyboards) In the end, I STILL never got a Keyboard and tablet that had matching metalic finish. I am nit sure if thatwas supply side,, or if they built them at multiple plant locations, but they were inconsistent as hell.
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Mine is from Amazon. Had it for all of four days lol guessing you're out of the US or have the dock on order with it?
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Yes I am completely satisfied.