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This question is for anyone on the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan) with T-Mobile. I gave T-Mobile a call today and a representative told me that I can upgrade my phone with a 2 year contract even though I'm on the Even more Plus plan. I think they're doing this because T-Mobile took away the non-contract plans. If you look on the T-Mobile website, you can no longer sign up for the Even More Plus plan if you're a new customer, you have to pay the contract plan prices which are higher.
My question is, has anyone tried upgrading their phone with the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan)?
jimmynguyen91 said:
This question is for anyone on the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan) with T-Mobile. I gave T-Mobile a call today and a representative told me that I can upgrade my phone with a 2 year contract even though I'm on the Even more Plus plan. I think they're doing this because T-Mobile took away the non-contract plans. If you look on the T-Mobile website, you can no longer sign up for the Even More Plus plan if you're a new customer, you have to pay the contract plan prices which are higher.
My question is, has anyone tried upgrading their phone with the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan)?
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AFAIK, T-Mobile removed the EM+ plan option from the website months ago to prevent customer confusion (or some crap reason like that). New customers can still get onto EM+ over the phone and by going into the T-Mobile shops.
Also, I do not think you can get upgrades while on EM+ since it requires you to actually buy a phone unsubsidized (full price). The only way I could explain why the rep would've told you that would be if they though you were swapping from EM+ to EM. If you were on the normal EM plan, then you should be able to get upgrades and discounts on newer phones after a certain amount of time.
If you use an upgrade/discount to purchase a new phone you will *always* be put back under a 2 year contract rate plan. With EM+ you *always* pay full price for the device (and EM+ plans have not been taken away... yet.)
The T-Mobile representative was ready to give me an upgrade, she was on my account reading my upgrade prices. She said I can't upgrade online because of my plan, but she said I can upgrade through the phone or at a store. It didn't require me to switch to a contract plan. When I migrated to non-contract plan, they said I can't switch back if I wanted to. Not sure about this yet so I will go to a store today to confirm.
You can still upgrade but you have to pay the full price for the device, and all theyre doing is swapping your sim, they took away upgrades on EM+ in november when they took my $300.00 in upgrade credit back
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You can still upgrade but you have to pay the full price for the device, and all theyre doing is swapping your sim, they took away upgrades on EM+ in november when they took my $300.00 in upgrade credit back
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I'm on the EM+ plan, and she said my price for the g2x and mytouch is only $217. She was on my account looking at the prices. I know the full price of the g2x is $499, not $217.
Pretty sure non contract plans are still available might have to go to the store and talk to a rep
and if not you cant call customer server and ask for android preferred internet for $20 doesn't matter how long you have had plan
Sound like she was giving you the subsidized price you would pay out of pocket. The rest will be on your bill split between 19 months.
That comes out to roughly $15 per month extra on your bill. Sounds about right.
I seems like Sprint will now limit both 3G and 4G data plans with no grandfathering. I am wondering if this implies a change of contract? Has anyone contacted Sprint to cancel their service with no ETF?
The limiting is only for mobile broadband plans (mobile hotspot), not phone plans.
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The limiting is only for mobile broadband plans (mobile hotspot), not phone plans.
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Sprint, "If you have a mobile broadband device such as a tablet, netbook, notebook, USB card, connection card or Mobile Hotspot device, effective beginning with your next bill following notification, your on-network monthly data allowance will no longer include unlimited 4G."
source ... http://support.sprint.com/support/a...25-20110927-142416/?ECID=vanity:servicechange
Exactly, mobile hotspot was in parenthesis as an example not limiting to.
Well don't that put a dent in my shiny new paper weight. Glad I cancelled Netflix.........
Bet they won't lower my monthly rate, though
I just called to see about this and whether I could cancel; the rep I spoke with said all signs point to my being grandfathered into unlimited data. My guess is they are just gonna use this to cut the cord with data hogs and grandfather in people like me who don't use all that much data anyways.
I use between 2-3 GB, but if I ever streamed a bunch extra, could bust through that so I definitely want the unlimited option.
Yeah, good luck on that grandfather thing. I bet they will rebate you for all the data bytes of advertising they mix in with web pages you look at too.... you know how fair and honest those mobile carriers are.
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Yeah, good luck on that grandfather thing. I bet they will rebate you for all the data bytes of advertising they mix in with web pages you look at too.... you know how fair and honest those mobile carriers are.
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Not too worried; tbh I'd almost rather they not grandfather me because I'm sure that would mean I could cancel with no ETF.
this might be a stupid question but if I cancel my contract does that mean I would lose my service all together?
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OK. On try number 1 I spoke with just a regular Sprint rep. She stated that the plan change did not constitute a material change. If this change is not material I don't know what is. I will try the next level.
Just spoke to retentions and account services and they let me out without a etf for a second time. It does work you just have to be fair and firm and state that you signed up for so many gb's of 3g and unlimited 4g and by them doing this is changing the contract.
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On my second try I spoke to someone in Account services, it took a manager to approve but they let me out of my contract and let me continue month to month with no ETF. The only exception is that I am not eligible for a discounted upgraded until the end of my original contract period - which seemed fair to me. Overall I am happy with the service that Sprint provided me. I was polite to all that I spoke to and explained that the reason I went with Sprint was the unlimited 4G data and that by changing the plan and not offering grandfathering constituted a material change in the contract. Act quickly if you want to do this as you only have 30 days from being notified in your bill. Good luck.
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I wonder if all the people who signed a new contract when the View came out got together and sued Sprint for breach of contract and whatever laws regarding contracts that they broke by invoking this change how it would effect them. I spent a big chunk of change for this device with a 2 year contract for the plan I am on. Had I of known they were going to make this change this soon after I bought the Tablet, I would NOT have bought it, in fact I would have bought one from AT&T as they had an unlimited data plan at the time that they grandfathered in when they placed limits on their plans. I love my tablet but without 3g and 4g service it really is a useless device for me as I use it primarily as a means to communicate with the outside world when I am on the road.
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I wonder if all the people who signed a new contract when the View came out got together and sued Sprint for breach of contract and whatever laws regarding contracts that they broke by invoking this change how it would effect them. I spent a big chunk of change for this device with a 2 year contract for the plan I am on. Had I of known they were going to make this change this soon after I bought the Tablet, I would NOT have bought it, in fact I would have bought one from AT&T as they had an unlimited data plan at the time that they grandfathered in when they placed limits on their plans. I love my tablet but without 3g and 4g service it really is a useless device for me as I use it primarily as a means to communicate with the outside world when I am on the road.
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Naw they aren't in breach as long as they let you out of your contract.
Actually contracts work both ways, saying they let me out of the contract ignores the cost of the view or the fact you cannot use it with another carrier. Contracts work two ways and just letting me out benefits them not me. No one sues so they continue this behavior.
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Looking for your experiences on pulling this off, and opinions on the differences of the data plans.
So I'm on a corporate discount / account; I will use all of the typical services, voice,internet, and push mail (ms exchange server syncing of email/calender/contacts), and some limited mms/text.
I want to go with another 2yr contract, as I want the 199.99 price (includes 99 rebate until Nov. 4th); I also need/use the ATT phone insurance.
When I go to buy the phone online it won't let me check-out without selecting a "new" data plan.
I currently have unlimited data on my tilt2 for 30.00 per month.
I don't want to pay more than this for data, and I refuse to be charged overage if I ever go over 2gb. That is [email protected]$##.
They do actually offer unlimited data at a higher price, and it is confusing because there are ALOT of different data plan options. I don't really know if there is a real difference between them. Anyone have insight on that?
Some say enterprise unlimited, then the same but for Windows, then the same but with push mail, then some with tethering added (higher price). There are alot more.
Has anybody gone through this, selected a plan and been able to call ATT to get their 30.00 unlimited grandfathered? (or price matched on the new plans?)
I've been with ATT for over a decade, (when they were cingular), and I'm not going to buy this phone if I have to pay more for data.
Other carriers offer it unlimited, some included in the rate/voice plan, and Verizon already has alot more LTE network setup.
I just don't want to buy this phone, and already be committed to a contract and find out I'm screwed.
Thanks for sharing your experience and how you tackled this one (especially if successfull)!
I just did an upgrade using amazon wireless.. ($149.99 for the SGS2)
They also forced you to select data plans without giving me the options for what I currently had. AT&T was great though because once I had the phone activated I called them up and they grandfathered my plan back to how it was in under 5 minutes.
Quite impressed they took care of me that fast.
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I just did an upgrade using amazon wireless.. ($149.99 for the SGS2)
They also forced you to select data plans without giving me the options for what I currently had. AT&T was great though because once I had the phone activated I called them up and they grandfathered my plan back to how it was in under 5 minutes.
Quite impressed they took care of me that fast.
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Wow thanks for the feedback what did you select, the 2gb plan to start with? just to be safe I'll try to mimic exactly what you did.
I was in the exact same boat you are (Tilt2, unlimited data, corporate account). I walked into the AT&T store, told them I wanted the GS2 and that I wanted to keep my plan the same and I walked out about 5 minutes later with my plan intact and my new phone. It was the most painless experience I've ever had with AT&T in probably 8 years of dealing with them.
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To OP, the easiest way is to go into AT&T store and upgrade there (yes, you can upgrade your primer account in regular stores). Not only you get cheaper price $199 w/o rebate. You also get to keep your unlimited data plan easily. Unless, of course, your local AT&T store doesn't carry the phone.
Also, the rebate only applies to new customers (for premier account). Not upgrades. So, you're paying $299 for your upgrade.
If you have a premier account, NEVE do it online. You will always get screwed for paying more than retail stores.
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So I'm on a corporate discount / account
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You should have a dedicated account manager assigned to your company's account. E-mail him or her and ask for what you want. Not only will it be faster, they usually ship overnight for free and waive other fees. My rep set up a new contract-less account for me on the data for non-Smartphones plan and overnighted me the SIM for my ISGS2. He just did it again last week when I added a UK G-Tab to my account. They also help with account changes and billing issues. It's so much faster and more efficient then dealing with the phone drones. They also service personally liable corporate affiliated accounts.
thanks guys, I had heard that if your on a corp-discount/account that retail stores cannot upgrade you. (unless it is a specified "corporate" store location.) Also I had suspected that some local stores may not have them in stock. So for those two reasons I decided to save some legwork and just order online.
I'll just call a few stores on Monday and see whom can take care of me. At least that way if I run into the wrong guy, and they to screw me around I can just opt to go to another store.
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You should have a dedicated account manager assigned to your company's account. E-mail him or her and ask for what you want. Not only will it be faster, they usually ship overnight for free and waive other fees. My rep set up a new contract-less account for me on the data for non-Smartphones plan and overnighted me the SIM for my ISGS2. He just did it again last week when I added a UK G-Tab to my account. They also help with account changes and billing issues. It's so much faster and more efficient then dealing with the phone drones. They also service personally liable corporate affiliated accounts.
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Well I actually pay for my own phone, it is my personal phone and plan. It is not subsidized by my corp. The giant corp I work for just happened to have a discount at ATT when I upgraded the last time. If our company does have an acct. manager I have no idea who that would be or how to contact them.
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Well I actually pay for my own phone, it is my personal phone and plan. It is not subsidized by my corp. The giant corp I work for just happened to have a discount at ATT when I upgraded the last time. If our company does have an acct. manager I have no idea who that would be or how to contact them.
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You don't need to go through a rep unless your company pays for your phone. You are only getting the discount on your personal plan, which is the same thing I get. You can simply call them (611 from your current att phone) and it routes you to the premier people. Once you connect with someone do the upgrade over the phone and you can keep your unlimited data. That is how I did it and they shipped it fedex 2-day. They should be able to wave the upgrade fee and shipping.
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Looking for your experiences on pulling this off, and opinions on the differences of the data plans.
So I'm on a corporate discount / account; I will use all of the typical services, voice,internet, and push mail (ms exchange server syncing of email/calender/contacts), and some limited mms/text.
I want to go with another 2yr contract, as I want the 199.99 price (includes 99 rebate until Nov. 4th); I also need/use the ATT phone insurance.
When I go to buy the phone online it won't let me check-out without selecting a "new" data plan.
I currently have unlimited data on my tilt2 for 30.00 per month.
I don't want to pay more than this for data, and I refuse to be charged overage if I ever go over 2gb. That is [email protected]$##.
They do actually offer unlimited data at a higher price, and it is confusing because there are ALOT of different data plan options. I don't really know if there is a real difference between them. Anyone have insight on that?
Some say enterprise unlimited, then the same but for Windows, then the same but with push mail, then some with tethering added (higher price). There are alot more.
Has anybody gone through this, selected a plan and been able to call ATT to get their 30.00 unlimited grandfathered? (or price matched on the new plans?)
I've been with ATT for over a decade, (when they were cingular), and I'm not going to buy this phone if I have to pay more for data.
Other carriers offer it unlimited, some included in the rate/voice plan, and Verizon already has alot more LTE network setup.
I just don't want to buy this phone, and already be committed to a contract and find out I'm screwed.
Thanks for sharing your experience and how you tackled this one (especially if successfull)!
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I am in almost the same situation as you (my account is tied to my company so I get some FAN discount and I have been with ATT since 2002). Anyway, is your current data plan truly unlimited? If you bought it a few years ago then it is. My advice is for you to go into an actual store. When I tried to do an upgrade over the internet and via phone to business customer service, I was told not only that I would have to update my data plan but also change my voice plan to something more expensive but my plan was so old that it was no longer "current". In order for me to get anything even close to my current voice plan would require me to pay $15 more a month! I spent 45 mins on the phone with 3 different people!
I ultimately went into a local store during my lunch break and 10 mins later I had my SGS2, and I kept my data and voice plan.
The only thing the store said about my corporate plan was small talk about where I worked.
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I am in almost the same situation as you (my account is tied to my company so I get some FAN discount and I have been with ATT since 2002). Anyway, is your current data plan truly unlimited? If you bought it a few years ago then it is. My advice is for you to go into an actual store. When I tried to do an upgrade over the internet and via phone to business customer service, I was told not only that I would have to update my data plan but also change my voice plan to something more expensive but my plan was so old that it was no longer "current". In order for me to get anything even close to my current voice plan would require me to pay $15 more a month! I spent 45 mins on the phone with 3 different people!
I ultimately went into a local store during my lunch break and 10 mins later I had my SGS2, and I kept my data and voice plan.
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Yup, I actually had the 15-20 dollar unlimited internet for years-dump phone (on the old version of the tilt 2, the 8525(?)), when I upgraded to the tilt 2 at release, I had to bite the bullet and go with the $30 plan, but it is unlimited.
Looks like I'm going to hit a store on my lunch break Monday.
Thanks all for your input.
Same here - no problems keeping unlimited data on my plan, going from Tilt2 to Infuse (GS2 was an off-contract outright purchase.)
The one caveat above, someone mentioned special "corporate" stores.
What this means is - you must go to an AT&T-owned store. NOT a "mall kiosk" type reseller, or BEst Buy Mobile, or anything like that - the store must be owned and operated by AT&T Corporate.
In general, you should always go to corp stores - the staff are FAR better trained in every store I've ever been to than the phone staff or "mall kiosk" type staff, which are undertrained at best and dishonest at worst. (Such as frequently telling you outright lies about a device you want but they don't carry, in order to push you to something they have in stock and make a sale.)
I also ordered from Amazon Wireless. They do not have any option to keep your old data plan. Paying a flat $149.99 is the greatest deal when buying a phone. No rebates or exorbitant tax because you're paying the full tax price of the phone and "activation fees."
But since you have to call ATT anyways to activate, you can easily argue to grandfather your unlimited data back in. Just make sure to call them beforehand to ensure you keep it before purchasing and have them put a note on your account when you activate to keep it.
At first they told me that I'm switching to a 4G data plan so I'll lose unlimited. Then I argued if I'm switching to 4G that I might as well just go to Verizon and get real 4G. Then the suddenly they call up supervisors and immediately let you keep your unlimited plan. It sad that you have to put them under the gun to keep your unlimited data, but that's just how it is.
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Well I actually pay for my own phone, it is my personal phone and plan. It is not subsidized by my corp. The giant corp I work for just happened to have a discount at ATT when I upgraded the last time. If our company does have an acct. manager I have no idea who that would be or how to contact them.
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Your company should have a dedicated Premier page that has contact info. You can probably find the link on your company's intranet/extranet or from HR. If you have a personal account using your work discount you're still part of Premier.
I have a corporate premier plan linked to my employer, but its not a business phone, in fact my employer uses Verizon for business phones. But, I get a 27% service discount at att. I had the unlimited data. I was going to buy through Amazon, or Walmart online as they are both cheaper than in store, but figured I would hit the store first. The store I went into was a Spring store, not att corporate, but an authorized reseller. They would not match the price, and said if I bought online there might be a separate ETF for the data they make you choose, and that customer service nor the stores are allowed to put back unlimited. As others have reported that is not true, but its also not guaranteed. I use 6GB a month, so I didn't want to risk it. They gave me a $30 discount, so I paid $170 (no rebate) and let me keep my unlimited data. Although, they did say they needed to change the data plan to a 4G plan, but it was just system coding, the price and unlimited would stay. When I put my SIM back in my captivate, the data wont work, so I think the plans are different, but my bill still shows $30 unlimited.
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I also ordered from Amazon Wireless. They do not have any option to keep your old data plan. Paying a flat $149.99 is the greatest deal when buying a phone. No rebates or exorbitant tax because you're paying the full tax price of the phone and "activation fees."
But since you have to call ATT anyways to activate, you can easily argue to grandfather your unlimited data back in. Just make sure to call them beforehand to ensure you keep it before purchasing and have them put a note on your account when you activate to keep it.
At first they told me that I'm switching to a 4G data plan so I'll lose unlimited. Then I argued if I'm switching to 4G that I might as well just go to Verizon and get real 4G. Then the suddenly they call up supervisors and immediately let you keep your unlimited plan. It sad that you have to put them under the gun to keep your unlimited data, but that's just how it is.
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$50 is, in my opinion, not worth the high risk of losing unlimited data.
If you do it in an AT&T store, there is no *****ing, there's no arguing, no threatening to switch providers - seems like anyone who has upgraded in-person in-store didn't even have to ask - we were TOLD we'd be keeping unlimited data.
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$50 is, in my opinion, not worth the high risk of losing unlimited data.
If you do it in an AT&T store, there is no *****ing, there's no arguing, no threatening to switch providers - seems like anyone who has upgraded in-person in-store didn't even have to ask - we were TOLD we'd be keeping unlimited data.
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That's how I felt too ... it wasn't worth the risk or potential hassle to save that money. Because in the event I could not get the unlimited data back it would mean either a lot over overage, or drastic changes to my phone use habits to keep it under 2GB.
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I went to Costco and they made a point to keep my unlimited data. The guy even showed me on his screen. They had the phone for like $30 off.
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$50 is, in my opinion, not worth the high risk of losing unlimited data.
If you do it in an AT&T store, there is no *****ing, there's no arguing, no threatening to switch providers - seems like anyone who has upgraded in-person in-store didn't even have to ask - we were TOLD we'd be keeping unlimited data.
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To each his own I guess. If I went to the ATT store my total would've been $270 after taxes for the $199 price. That's almost double what I've paid.
So spending an extra $120 to be "hassle-free" over calling ATT to keep my unlimited. It's up to you which makes more sense.
For those of you who subscribe to the 4G data plan on Sprint:
A) Is there a way to get a data plan without a contract?
B) How much are the govt fees/taxes/surcharges etc on a $19.99 plan? I can see the plans but not all the fees/taxes/etc until after signing up.
In response to question B: Count on an additional ~$5 month (but almost $3 of that for me is "San Francisco City 911 Tax," so YMMV). "Sprint Surcharges" are $1.90: I assume that doesn't vary by geographic location?
Sprint surcharges should be same no matter the area. Government fees will vary. I believe the max is 15.3% .
As for the first question, theres at least one thread here already about that, if you seek it out, you'll find that sprint offers an official no contract rate that is pretty expensive. Some people have reported success getting someone to add it to their acct without a contract on the regular plan rates. Just keep in mind that it isn't officially an option so don't get frustrated if the care rep can't do it. Just hang up and start over. I can def confirm that we can't do it without a contract in the store.
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The carrier that implemented an "actual bytes used" plan would have a hit on their hands, especially if it were reasonably priced. Imagine only paying for the data you actually use, and some months paying nothing at all, because you were on WiFi the whole time. That's a plan I would consider. And by its nature it would be transferable, so you wouldn't be locked into any particular piece of hardware for 2 years.
You can sign up for day use, week use or month use without any contract. That way if you are traveling you can utilize it. I feel one can tether to his/her phone and avoid this but it might be useful to some.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20096106-251/sprint-offering-no-contract-data-plans-for-evo-view-4g/
I tried this out for a month and it works well, and can even utilize 4G where available.
A) Is there a way to get a data plan without a contract?
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Yes, but you may not be able to do so with a representative. I was told by Sprint rep, that because I did not purchase my View from Sprint, I was not eligible for off-contract "pay as you go" data plan. So I just activated myself over the air. When I opened, SprintZone for the first time it gave me the option of choosing Monthly or contract. I had now problems activating for 1 month even though I did not purchase my View from Sprint. I went with the over-priced $49.99 option to test it out. I read somewhere that the Mobile Hot Spot feature is not available on the lowest tier $19.99 plan. Think I will test it next month.
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B) How much are the govt fees/taxes/surcharges etc on a $19.99 plan? I can see the plans but not all the fees/taxes/etc until after signing up.
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If you are asking about the Monthly (non-contract) plans, all fees and taxes are included (at least with my FL billing address). Advertised as $49.99 and that was the total.
Has anyone switched to the new Framily plans? It seems like a decent value, but I'd like to hear from someone that has seen the expected bill.
The wife and I have a plan a few years old - 1500 min + unlimited mobile calling + unlimited text and data. We do have a discount on the account (for several years now), but the discount is only applied to the primary line ($110 * 20% = 22 credit) and not the Add-a-line. After taxes, fees and insurance our bill is about $170 a month.
The Framily plans information indicates $70 per line (for two phones + unlimited data). I am wondering if their accounting scheme would remain the same, so that they only apply the discount to the primary line (thus a $10 credit) rather than to both.
I rather expect that those who switch to the new plan scheme will not be able to view the new accounting changes until after Feb 10th, but I thought I would float this thread until someone with info pops up.
Or if there is a secret Sprint insider that could fill us in, that would be good too.
Also, I'm curious about the new annual upgrade scheme, but I don't think that enough information is out there.
Thanks for the feedback peeps.
Update: I saw that some are posting their Framily codes on other threads. This seems like it can only help you, especially if you are a two-person bill, like myself. There is a place on Sprint's Framily website to check the discount rate of the Framily ID.
If you are willing to share your Framily ID, I encourage you to post it below, along with the number of people currently in your group.
Update 2: I got responses from @sprintCare regarding NVP discounts and the Framily plans, confirming what AFSOC_Commando said: NVP discounts only apply to the data plan on a Framily account.
I also confirmed that only 1 NVP discount per account, and they are treating the Framily ID as the account. Therefore if my wife and I are on one bill, I get the discount, she does not. Take this into consideration when it comes to upgrade time.
So You're at $140.00 before taxes and fees? Aren't you paying 129.00 before taxes and fees now?
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So You're at $140.00 before taxes and fees? Aren't you paying 129.00 before taxes and fees now?
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I neglected to specify the things that would not change if I altered my plan [TEP+Repair] nor did I include the $10 per line premium data fee. I don't think it can hurt to post this image, but maybe it will help someone else to choose an optimum plan. By treating secondary [tertiary] lines as add-ons Sprint justifies not applying the corporate discount.
Before taxes I'd say I'm about $150 including insurance.
On the Framily plans I estimate that I would end up paying maybe $2 more a month
Personally, based on what I see, I don't see an advantage changing your plan unless you're forced to. I have a very similar plan except I don't opt-in for the TEP/repair cost. And not to hijack your thread, but when was the last time you actually used the TEP/repair service? You'll save about $260+ ever year, that's like a new phone in savings. And if your phone happens to break (not obvious abuse e.g. cracked screen) Sprint would replace it for $50 without insurance. (I did this with my wife's phone when her S3 was acting up). Anywho, I think it's great that you bring this up as I'm in the same situation and my upgrade is coming up next month so I might want to change plans if their is an advantage (which I can't readily see). I'll keep an eye on this thread
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Personally, based on what I see, I don't see an advantage changing your plan unless you're forced to. I have a very similar plan except I don't opt-in for the TEP/repair cost. And not to hijack your thread, but when was the last time you actually used the TEP/repair service? You'll save about $260+ ever year, that's like a new phone in savings. And if your phone happens to break (not obvious abuse e.g. cracked screen) Sprint would replace it for $50 without insurance. (I did this with my wife's phone when her S3 was acting up). Anywho, I think it's great that you bring this up as I'm in the same situation and my upgrade is coming up next month so I might want to change plans if their is an advantage (which I can't readily see). I'll keep an eye on this thread
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Oh, hijack all you want. I've replaced my EVO LTE twice, the EVO 4G once, the Touch Pro was replaced with the TouchPro2 - which was cool at the time - and that was shortly after I enrolled in TEP. My wife has replaced her EVO LTE once, and maybe her EVO before that. So we've gotten a value out of it, but I know that they are soaking us, it's really ridiculous.
I don't think that there is much chance of us Framily saving us much money, but I think I would like to be locked in to the annual upgrade perk before they do away with it again.
I called today about the Framily plan as I'm out of contract right now. I was under the impression that the framily plan acted just like the web-site seems to lay it out...55 for me, 50 for the next person, 45 for third....so on and so on. It sounded pretty good since, once you're enrolled, you get a group id that you can give to people and when they sign up, they join your group.
So, here's what I actually found out when I called *2 and talked to a rep...
First off, there's no contracts, so you can have people join and leave at any time. However, when someone joins, it can take up to 2 months for the billing to be adjusted to show your "multiple people group savings". So basically, if two people join in January (they should be at $50/mth) but you might not see the savings until March. When person 3 joins in March, you might not see the additional savings until May/June. If one person drops, everyone's bill will increase to account for that loss of a person on the plan.
It's an additional $20/line for unlimited data.
Only people NOT currently in Sprint can join. When I brought up that the website says there's options to allow others in Sprint to join, the rep said that there have to be certain circumstances, which after going round and round, basically mean that whoever joins your group needs to be out of contract. If they're not, they'll have to pay an additional fee (a pro-rated fee??) based on the cost of their device.
There's no phones or upgrades or discounts or anything else when you go to the framily plans. If you want a new phone, you have to pay full retail price for it or you can do a 24 monthly payment for said new phone. Also, when you want to purchase a new phone, there's a deposit that must be paid in addition to the 24 monthly payments, which include monthly tax on the full cost of the device. I asked for an example, supposing I wanted the new S5 when/if it ever comes out at a price of $500. So my monthly bill would be 55/mth service (1 person) + 20/unlim data + 25 (500 phone charge + 45 in taxes divided by 24 months) plus an UndeterminedDeposit for switching to a new phone and a 15 upgrade fee. If you leave the framily plan, you owe a fully payment for rest of retail cost of phone.
Personally, it's not worth it for me. I want a new phone, and I have the two year discount to use. If I were to switch to the framily plan, I'd lose that discount, and most of the people I know that would join are in areas where sprint is piss-poor, or they're jumping ship for Tmobile. The rep I was talking to said that I could probably use my two year discount for a new phone THEN switch over to the framily plan. Trouble with that is that if after two years I'm still on it, and want to change phones, it'll be a heavy cost.
BTW - I was on the 450min+unlimited everything else plan which doesn't exist any more. So the rep moved me to the Unlimited minutes + Unlimited4LifeData for $80/mth (change to my bill was .01¢ increase). Didn't extend, didn't change contract, etc...just gave me unlimited minutes for a penny more per month.
sindawe said:
I called today about the Framily plan as I'm out of contract right now. I was under the impression that the framily plan acted just like the web-site seems to lay it out...55 for me, 50 for the next person, 45 for third....so on and so on. It sounded pretty good since, once you're enrolled, you get a group id that you can give to people and when they sign up, they join your group.
So, here's what I actually found out when I called *2 and talked to a rep...
First off, there's no contracts, so you can have people join and leave at any time. However, when someone joins, it can take up to 2 months for the billing to be adjusted to show your "multiple people group savings". So basically, if two people join in January (they should be at $50/mth) but you might not see the savings until March. When person 3 joins in March, you might not see the additional savings until May/June. If one person drops, everyone's bill will increase to account for that loss of a person on the plan.
It's an additional $20/line for unlimited data.
Only people NOT currently in Sprint can join. When I brought up that the website says there's options to allow others in Sprint to join, the rep said that there have to be certain circumstances, which after going round and round, basically mean that whoever joins your group needs to be out of contract. If they're not, they'll have to pay an additional fee (a pro-rated fee??) based on the cost of their device.
There's no phones or upgrades or discounts or anything else when you go to the framily plans. If you want a new phone, you have to pay full retail price for it or you can do a 24 monthly payment for said new phone. Also, when you want to purchase a new phone, there's a deposit that must be paid in addition to the 24 monthly payments, which include monthly tax on the full cost of the device. I asked for an example, supposing I wanted the new S5 when/if it ever comes out at a price of $500. So my monthly bill would be 55/mth service (1 person) + 20/unlim data + 25 (500 phone charge + 45 in taxes divided by 24 months) plus an UndeterminedDeposit for switching to a new phone and a 15 upgrade fee. If you leave the framily plan, you owe a fully payment for rest of retail cost of phone.
Personally, it's not worth it for me. I want a new phone, and I have the two year discount to use. If I were to switch to the framily plan, I'd lose that discount, and most of the people I know that would join are in areas where sprint is piss-poor, or they're jumping ship for Tmobile. The rep I was talking to said that I could probably use my two year discount for a new phone THEN switch over to the framily plan. Trouble with that is that if after two years I'm still on it, and want to change phones, it'll be a heavy cost.
BTW - I was on the 450min+unlimited everything else plan which doesn't exist any more. So the rep moved me to the Unlimited minutes + Unlimited4LifeData for $80/mth (change to my bill was .01¢ increase). Didn't extend, didn't change contract, etc...just gave me unlimited minutes for a penny more per month.
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Careful with this part. If I read it right, if you do that (get a new phone using your upgrade, which would put you into a 2yr contract), and THEN switch, I think they will charge you an additional 15/mo since you are on contract, for a max of 12 months, additional 180$ (15$ *12mo)
sindawe said:
I called today about the Framily plan as I'm out of contract right now. I was under the impression that the framily plan acted just like the web-site seems to lay it out...55 for me, 50 for the next person, 45 for third....so on and so on. It sounded pretty good since, once you're enrolled, you get a group id that you can give to people and when they sign up, they join your group.
So, here's what I actually found out when I called *2 and talked to a rep...
First off, there's no contracts, so you can have people join and leave at any time. However, when someone joins, it can take up to 2 months for the billing to be adjusted to show your "multiple people group savings". So basically, if two people join in January (they should be at $50/mth) but you might not see the savings until March. When person 3 joins in March, you might not see the additional savings until May/June. If one person drops, everyone's bill will increase to account for that loss of a person on the plan.
It's an additional $20/line for unlimited data.
Only people NOT currently in Sprint can join. When I brought up that the website says there's options to allow others in Sprint to join, the rep said that there have to be certain circumstances, which after going round and round, basically mean that whoever joins your group needs to be out of contract. If they're not, they'll have to pay an additional fee (a pro-rated fee??) based on the cost of their device.
There's no phones or upgrades or discounts or anything else when you go to the framily plans. If you want a new phone, you have to pay full retail price for it or you can do a 24 monthly payment for said new phone. Also, when you want to purchase a new phone, there's a deposit that must be paid in addition to the 24 monthly payments, which include monthly tax on the full cost of the device. I asked for an example, supposing I wanted the new S5 when/if it ever comes out at a price of $500. So my monthly bill would be 55/mth service (1 person) + 20/unlim data + 25 (500 phone charge + 45 in taxes divided by 24 months) plus an UndeterminedDeposit for switching to a new phone and a 15 upgrade fee. If you leave the framily plan, you owe a fully payment for rest of retail cost of phone.
Personally, it's not worth it for me. I want a new phone, and I have the two year discount to use. If I were to switch to the framily plan, I'd lose that discount, and most of the people I know that would join are in areas where sprint is piss-poor, or they're jumping ship for Tmobile. The rep I was talking to said that I could probably use my two year discount for a new phone THEN switch over to the framily plan. Trouble with that is that if after two years I'm still on it, and want to change phones, it'll be a heavy cost.
BTW - I was on the 450min+unlimited everything else plan which doesn't exist any more. So the rep moved me to the Unlimited minutes + Unlimited4LifeData for $80/mth (change to my bill was .01¢ increase). Didn't extend, didn't change contract, etc...just gave me unlimited minutes for a penny more per month.
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Based on what you describe it seems like I'd better stay in the boat that I'm comfortable in. I didn't realize that they would no longer subsidize the cost of the phone. If the new HTC One 2014 is $650, and my wife and I both got one, then we would end up paying an additional $27/month each on top of the Framily plan. That sounds an awful lot like a $225/month arrangement, and that sucks.
Yeah so I'll keep my existing plan probably.
Thanks for the input.
I actually just went through this yesterday I upgraded to the note 3 through easy pay and was switched to the framily plan the advantage of the framily plan is dependent on how many people you have on a line it goes down 5 dollar increments every person you add starting at 55 dollars plus 10 for 3 gig of data or 20 for unlimited the lowest you can pay is 20 dollars per line plus data if you have 5 people which is a GREAT deal BUT if your like me with only 1-2 people then there is not point in changing and if you have a discount it's is now applied to the data plan rather than the whole plan so you get less taken off HOWEVER this is such a new plan there is MASS confusion among sprint everyone will tell you something different I actually upgraded with easy pay switched to framily in the store and then called customer service and switched back to my everything data 450 that I was grandfathered into since 2009 some will say you can switch it and some will say you can't depends who you talk to*
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Yeah. I agree that there's a lot of confusion about it. It does seem like it is only really worth it if you either don't want to upgrade phones with a discount OR you have a lot of ppl to join right off.
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sindawe said:
Yeah. I agree that there's a lot of confusion about it. It does seem like it is only really worth it if you either don't want to upgrade phones with a discount OR you have a lot of ppl to join right off.
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I converted my current contract to a FRAMILY and went from $151 a month after taxes to $130 since I have 2 lines and only kept mine on unlimited data. Wife uses under 500MB a month.
I then posted my Framily code and last 4 of my number on Fatwallet, Slickdeals and Framilycodes.com and had 10 people under my account within 12 hours and now have a bill of $70 per month plus taxes.
You can locate Framily codes on Ebay and craigslist as well for free.
I am expecting most people to stay for at least 2 years due to the fact that most people will finance their new equipment for 2 years and must pay it off immediately if they cancel service. Sort of an ETF if you will. I expect more service to go this route. All your MNVO's and T-Mobile use this model of paying for your own equipment non subsidized like the rest of the globe.
If you must swap phones regularly then you could swap every 6 months if you desire and recover some of your phone value on Swappa and buy your next device. The math does come out cheaper for many people.
I got this response from @sprintCare on twitter:
If you currently receive an NVP discount of any kind, if you convert to Framily that discount only applies to data.
Previously, on one NVP discount could be applied to a shared account. Since they are now discounting only the data of the user that gets the discount I have asked if each Framily user could apply an NVP discount. When they respond I will update this thread.
Another update from @sprintCare
SPRINT FRAMILY ID F00193227hd friends and family id code save $ - $45 (ANYWHERE)
go to the sprint website
sprint.com/framily and click on framily, enter my ALL LOWER CASE
F00193227hd or call sprint for more details 1-888-211-4727
Everyone has a seperate account and get their own bill, only thing we share and enjoy is the discount.
here is my Framily ID if anyone is looking to join. We have few more spots left so just call in and give them this id. You don't need any other info just the framily id. By Friday I will have 5 lines on this plan. ALL LOWER CASE
F00193227hd
The pricing tiers are as follows
1 People in my group $55 Per month per phone
2 People in my group $50 Per month per phone
3 People in my group $45 Per month per phone
4 People in my group $40 Per month per phone
5 People in my group $35 Per month per phone
6 People in my group $30 Per month per phone
7-10 or more People in your group $25 Per month per phone
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you can also reach me via Google hangouts windst.88
Sprint Customer for 4+ years
Framily ID# L00291411xv
My number : 925-354-4555
Name: Frank
Will be trying to save 4 spots for my co workers family. Currently just me and my wife on the Framily plan. Get your spot now.
Hey! My sprint framily code is L00099258oy Use this code to reduce your monthly bill!! There are 8 spots opened
Framily
I tried yesterday and only had the Framily ID. This was via chat and they wanted the primarys phone number to attempt and give me a quote. Please contact me if you would like an extra draw on your framily and I will try again.
My framily ID is n00678551Wc. I have 2 lines now, and my in-laws are supposed to go next week. Also, I am posting in other forums, hopefully we can save some money and be down to 25/month within a few days!
4 lines, need at least 3 more for $25 month
4 lines, need at least 3 more for $25 month
Framily plan id E00767761Gk (those are zeros and lower case k) Last 4 numbers of phone number is 7088. Have four lines on it, just signed up today. 6 lines left, let me know if you sign up so I can update it here. Thanks!
Sprint plan ID
I currently have 6 spots open on my Framily Plan
plan ID# I00765014kQ
the first letter is a capital "I" last 2 are lower case k and capital Q. The rest are numbers.