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Guys we did it!!!!!!!
VZW got our petition and my letter, as a result they allowed HTCdev.com to work to unlock our phones!
go to www.htcdev.com and follow the instructions.
good job to all who signed the petition, what an awesome victory!
here is the letter I sent:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20764858&postcount=107
Thank you to everyone who participated
Please read sign, and share the following petition.
http://www.groubal.com/verizon-wireless-allow-unlocking-of-htc-boot-loaders-on-your-network/
With enough signatures, this can work. This is the same method that was used with HTC and resulted in the acknowledgement by the CEO, and the promise of unlocked boot loaders for all phones from now on.
Verizon is trying to protect us from ourselves, they claim that allowing the phones to be unlocked would "hurt" us, as we would not be able to get "excellent customer service" should we ever need troubleshooting advice from them.
We all know that we understand the risk associated custom software and roms, as well as unlocking and changing critical software. We can choose to participate, or choose to leave our phones as Verizon shipped them.
We want the ability to CHOOSE what we do with our phones, not to have VZW protect us from ourselves. Giving us the option to unlock is not the same as shipping the phones in an unlocked state... We simply want the option.
Basically what Verizon is saying is that since it is so easy to root and un-root with virtually no trace they don't want this to be easy because they have replaced thousands of phones already that were "bricked" by the users.
I wouldn't mind a minor lockdown making it somewhat difficult to modify the phone, but this type of lockdown is a little out of hand.
xceebeex said:
Basically what Verizon is saying is that since it is so easy to root and un-root with virtually no trace they don't want this to be easy because they have replaced thousands of phones already that were "bricked" by the users.
I wouldn't mind a minor lockdown making it somewhat difficult to modify the phone, but this type of lockdown is a little out of hand.
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the current lock down in place can stay in place. We just want them to allow HTC to unlock our phones should we choose to use their unlock tool, created and supported by HTC, for HTC phones.
nothing has to change except that.
signed via tweet lol
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I'd rather petition HTC on providing unlock keys. Verizon already knows how to ignore us.
Serinety said:
the current lock down in place can stay in place. We just want them to allow HTC to unlock our phones should we choose to use their unlock tool, created and supported by HTC, for HTC phones.
nothing has to change except that.
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Ah, I didn't realize there was an HTC tool to do that. I am new to HTC phones, my previous two phones were Samsungs (Fascinate and Charge) and they were both ridiculously easy to unlock.
Will you be posting this on other websites? Rootz perhaps? Is there a rezound specific website to post it on? Come on people, only 7 of us want our phones unlocked? Sign, sign, sign.
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Comicazy said:
Will you be posting this on other websites? Rootz perhaps? Is there a rezound specific website to post it on? Come on people, only 7 of us want our phones unlocked? Sign, sign, sign.
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I have posted my thread on several android forums (other than xda) a bit ago, which also included a link to Serinety's petition in it.
Hopefully we see more action on petition signing.
Signed
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I'll need someone else to post in rootz as I don't have link privledges yet.
I also posted this on xda general as well as tweeting it about 7 relevant hash tags
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Signed! 10char
Done, and done....
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Serinety said:
I'll need someone else to post in rootz as I don't have link privledges yet.
I also posted this on xda general as well as tweeting it about 7 relevant hash tags
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I posted on Rootz a bit ago
Signed, thanks for the heads up!
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+10 Char
Signed.
I like this one. hopefully Verizon has open ears like HTC.
it would make many people happy people.
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Originally Posted on DroidRZR.com
We need to make Motorola realize that they cannot break promises and not expect major backlashings from their consumers. They promised to have unlocked bootloaders by the second half of 2011 if carriers let them, and guess what? Its December 31st, 2011. No unlocked bootloader. HTC has unlocked the bootloader for the Thunderbolt and other Verizon devices, so it IS NOT VERIZON. It is Motorola. Let your voice be heard: "Unlock the RAZR Bootloader!"
Motorola on Facebook
Motorola on Twitter
Quoting them will probably be the MOST effective. And mentioning HTC has unlocked their Verizon phones.
“In terms of your question – we completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.” -Motorola
Open Letter to Motorola - December 31st, 2011.
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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opensourcefan said:
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
Reported for deletion.
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Except, that thread includes 0 links, 0 references to Moto quotes and promises, etc.
Don't delete this thread!
People are lazy, we will never get the bootloader unlocked if no one does anything, and this thread provides links and references.
We need all the help we can get!
I second this. Motorola needs to take responsibility for its words and actions.
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I would second this but someone already did, I THIRD IT!
Sounds good I'm in
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The way information moves these days, I'm surprised that it hasn't been leaked out already. I wish someone at moto would go against the grain and do a solid for the community.
I fourth it! =D
I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
If anyone is interested I wrote up this complaint (http://db.tt/Z441y4yG) concerning Verizon's policy of locked bootloaders and how it violates the LTE license. I sent it to the FCC and NY senators, one of whom is looking into the matter. The complaint is written like a legal brief and has garnered the attention of at least senator. Feel free to use it and send it to FCC and your senators.
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opensourcefan said:
I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
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Agreed X 10.
mattlgroff said:
Agreed X 10.
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Wow, kinda mean.
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I just twittered demanding them to answer for their promise. Ignored as expected.
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This my be already posted but I haven't seen it on here yet. (this is my first post and I'm realllllly scared lol)
Motorola has released an updated list of their devices scheduled for Android 4.0! And finally, we have some confirmation that us X2 owners will get a taste of that delicious ICS. Moto hasn't really laid out the details yet, but atleast we know they're thinking about us! I found the article on Androidpolice.com. Since I'm a newbie, I can't post a link to it but just go to the website and search Motorola and it's second from the top!
Sidenote: Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! You guys make me feel like I actually know what I'm doing!
****EDIT****
Y'all already know I got a little excited when I first posted this... I am sorry for making it sound like "Hey we are definitely getting ICS!" I saw that the X2 was still in the "Evaluation and Planning" phase of development and truth is it could go either way! So thank you for not destroying this freshie and sharing your knowledge!
Droid X2 w/CM7 and lovin' it.
Would that include us Milestone owners? They're essentially the same device. If so.....YAY!
754boy said:
Would that include us Milestone owners? They're essentially the same device. If so.....YAY!
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As I understand it, the Milestone 3 is on the list!
I wouldn't put too much weight on the word of a company that said they'd give us unlocked bootloaders by the end of 11'.
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Bohnsta said:
This my be already posted but I haven't seen it on here yet. (this is my first post and I'm realllllly scared lol)
Motorola has released an updated list of their devices scheduled for Android 4.0! And finally, we have some confirmation that us X2 owners will get a taste of that delicious ICS. Moto hasn't really laid out the details yet, but atleast we know they're thinking about us! I found the article on Androidpolice.com. Since I'm a newbie, I can't post a link to it but just go to the website and search Motorola and it's second from the top!
Sidenote: Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! You guys make me feel like I actually know what I'm doing!
Droid X2 w/CM7 and lovin' it.
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ummm on the website it says in evaluation that means they are seeing if it works good this is NOT a certainty do NOT get your hopes up. Moto has effed us over before :/
Motorola can kiss my rump. I'm getting ready to order a Galaxy Nexus as my main phone. Droid x2 is a great phone but its just too locked down for me. I miss having a working rom manager. I'm a flash addict and miss being able to flash without being plugged into the charger.
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This is the part that scares me...
Theve lied to us before....
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My bet is that "under evaluation" is their way of saying no, while stringing us along..
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Like I said in the other topic they best keep updating us at least onto more 2.3.? . This thing is still full of problems especially audio.
Bohnsta said:
This my be already posted but I haven't seen it on here yet. (this is my first post and I'm realllllly scared lol)
Motorola has released an updated list of their devices scheduled for Android 4.0! And finally, we have some confirmation that us X2 owners will get a taste of that delicious ICS. Moto hasn't really laid out the details yet, but atleast we know they're thinking about us! I found the article on Androidpolice.com. Since I'm a newbie, I can't post a link to it but just go to the website and search Motorola and it's second from the top!
Sidenote: Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! You guys make me feel like I actually know what I'm doing!
Droid X2 w/CM7 and lovin' it.
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Thanks for the post, however, this does not guarantee that ics is coming to the Droid. Notice it is in the planning and evaluation mode. Note how other phones are listed at getting ics in the 3rd quarter of 2012.
I wouldn't hold your breath.
People, I understand how companies have to plan for releases. Believe me, I know as I am an architect and developer for a major utility company. What I expect from Motorola are constant updates, not some vague posting that sits there for months with NO updates what-so-ever. Kind of like how we were promised to have unlocked bootloaders by the 4th quarter of 2011 and it never happened. Motorola NEVER gave an update as to why this was nor if they were going to do it at a later date. Instead, dead silence and then the release of the Droid RAZR Developer Edition which costs $100 more than the MSP and no guarantee that it would be released by Verizon or other carriers. In fact, it's not schedule for release in the US for some time, which could turn out to be never.
So, don't take this update from Motorola sitting down. We MUST continue to hound them, tactfully, to release ICS for the X2 and other Motorola phones that are more than capable of running it. In addition, they MUST be made to come through on their promise to unlock the bootloader. Remember, do it with tact. As I've stated in another post, I've already filed my BBB complaint to Motorola which has been accepted by the BBB and forwarded on to Motorola, so the ball is in their court now. I suggest everyone else does the same. The more complaints, the more likely they respond, hopefully with a gesture that meets our wants and needs.
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jcbwaters3 said:
Motorola can kiss my rump. I'm getting ready to order a Galaxy Nexus as my main phone. Droid x2 is a great phone but its just too locked down for me. I miss having a working rom manager. I'm a flash addict and miss being able to flash without being plugged into the charger.
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I got rid of my DX2 for an LTE GN and I haven't looked back since. The open world of bootloaders is amazing!
donlad said:
I got rid of my DX2 for an LTE GN and I haven't looked back since. The open world of bootloaders is amazing!
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I'm ordering my Galaxy Nexus today. Never again will I spend money on a Motorola device.
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Do you think that the new ceo will probably change the policy of motorola and unlock the bootloader?
Some one know the mail of Dennis Woodside so we can told him that the motorola user want?
**** yes, maybe Google can put some sense into these idiots
eyriiii said:
**** yes, maybe Google can put some sense into these idiots
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We don't need SENSE, the new BLUR is good.
J/K
I hope so, but good promised to put firewall between companies. So it would not mess with motorola.
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CEO has gone maybe this mean some mind change to motorola regarding bootloaders and updating.
http://pulse.me/s/9vrWY
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pedrotorresfilho said:
CEO has gone maybe this mean some mind change to motorola regarding bootloaders and updating.
http://pulse.me/s/9vrWY
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Yes I actually read that just some seconds ago, I really hope moto unlocks their bootloaders now or at least offer the same unlock solution as HTC
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If moto unlock the bootloader finally we can use ur phone to its fullest
Let's hope that the new ceo and the new team will love us XD
the bootloader being locked is all down to the service providers wanting it locked and Motorola doing what they are told , its all about product power , take Samsung their phones sell now matter what and service providers know this hence they cant force Samsung to lock bootloaders , samsung can basically do what they want and service providers have to take it, where as motorola dont have that control over the service providers and with google being run by eliments within Us government there as alot more other agendas we have no idea about
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maniAK- said:
the bootloader being locked is all down to the service providers wanting it locked and Motorola doing what they are told , its all about product power , take Samsung their phones sell now matter what and service providers know this hence they cant force Samsung to lock bootloaders , samsung can basically do what they want and service providers have to take it, where as motorola dont have that control over the service providers and with google being run by eliments within Us government there as alot more other agendas we have no idea about
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It's against FCC policies to lock our bootloader, it stops us from putting the OS we want on our devices.
Verizons main revenue stream is Motorola droid phones, they need Motorola.
You're also thinking too small, but why is it that on all other carriers, the bootloader is locked?
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People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
eyriiii said:
**** yes, maybe Google can put some sense into these idiots
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+100500 as we Russians say
theZest said:
+100500 as we Russians say
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Plyus sto pyatsot. Does not make any sense.
As Russian speaking person says.
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therazrguy said:
People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
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Lol?
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therazrguy said:
People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
Visit my channel on youtube
youtube.com/Therazrguy
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Really??? No Say Sherlock - I didn't knew that...
I dunno about moto... but I bought a TF300T transformer tablet over the weekend. I remember signing a petition to unlock the bootloader the next day.
BAM. Asus has issued a bootloader unlock, telling you if you use it, you're pretty much up the creek on warranty.
But man... do I respect ASUS now. I haven't unlocked the BL yet; but if and when I want to I can, and take responsibility for the device. Now that's the way to treat a customer; give them choices, and if you have to give responsibility along with the choice, be clear about it.
Moto could take a lesson here, but I doubt they will. Asus ROX! I wish they made phones
therazrguy said:
People for this bl problem they already have released a solution that is
Razr dev. Edition so they wont unlock our razr's bl
Get it!
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CDMA? no. The still lock the bp part!
steven.rn said:
Moto could take a lesson here, but I doubt they will. Asus ROX! I wish they made phones
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+1. I had an awesome experience with theTF101.
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CDMA? no. The still lock the bp part!
+1. I had an awesome experience with theTF101.
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I Can't Wait!
I asked motorola in facebook, also did kholks and they gave to me same answer about dev razr. Looks like they'll not unlock it In any case if they dont we will count with kexec as soon as ics kernell source become availiable. And, since its not an official bl unlock and can be undone we'll not touch warranty, as usually happens to htc n others.
Just thinking loud.
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pedrotorresfilho said:
I asked motorola in facebook, also did kholks and they gave to me same answer about dev razr. Looks like they'll not unlock it In any case if they dont we will count with kexec as soon as ics kernell source become availiable. And, since its not an official bl unlock and can be undone we'll not touch warranty, as usually happens to htc n others.
Just thinking loud.
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You never know, some things may change over a day
eyriiii said:
You never know, some things may change over a day
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Expecially now that there is a new ceo with a lot of new member in the executive team. (and the new ceo is from google so it should know that the power of android is it personalizzation)
Unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, but its not the only thing that does. Rooting voids it too, and you have to root to Kexec.
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Although its the Photon forum, I know a lot of US Cellular Electrify users frequent here. Just for anyone's info the Electrify M will be one of Motorola's unlock-able devices.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
Even better, its sold at a "standard", subsidised price instead of a "developer" price.
So what.
Look at the Photon Q forums, it was shipped with unlockable bootloader and its pretty much no development for it.
maxon_yalta said:
So what.
Look at the Photon Q forums, it was shipped with unlockable bootloader and its pretty much no development for it.
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Just throwing some info out there. With all the "picketing" against Motorola, I thought it was nice to see a little "light at the end of the tunnel."
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Look at the Photon Q forums, it was shipped with unlockable bootloader and its pretty much no development for it.
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I dont think very many have sold. I wouldnt be suprised if photon Q total sales are a small percentage of the original photon.
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I have the Electrify M... I got the boot loader unlock code from motorola... but there is very little if any support for it from the community
Plzz can I flash my mopho 4g with electrify sbf, un-brick sbf and then unlock the bootloader? It will be running the electrify rom right??? Plz help, I'm still stuck with photon 4g
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