Quadrant Standard Edition - share yours - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

i was watching the phonedog.com dogfight between the Gnote and the iP 4s (no surprise the Gnote wins )
anyways, he ran the Quadrant Standard Edition so i went and installed it....his test came out to 2396. i ran the same test and mine came out to 3223. i wonder why there was such a difference? perhaps he hadn't rebooted his in awhile. i have no widgets running, perhaps that is why.
please share yours

~3300 stock, ~3800 overclocked to 1.83GHz

I don't get it. Highest ive gotten so far is like 2745. I have mine rooted with clock mod installed but on stock rom. How are you guys hitting 3,000 e on the stock rom.
Ive done all the clear RAM, reboot, & kill off backround tasks. I need more speeeeeeed! LOL>

nice jjc!
Vcolassi said:
I don't get it. Highest ive gotten so far is like 2745. I have mine rooted with clock mod installed but on stock rom. How are you guys hitting 3,000 e on the stock rom.
Ive done all the clear RAM, reboot, & kill off backround tasks. I need more speeeeeeed! LOL>
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idk m8. hopefully someone will reply with an idea. i am interested in knowing why we all have diff #'s when we have stock rom.
do you have a widget(s) running?

Rooted, stock, frozen bloat. Fast as hell.
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ARTAQaf said:
nice jjc!
idk m8. hopefully someone will reply with an idea. i am interested in knowing why we all have diff #'s when we have stock rom.
do you have a widget(s) running?
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Nope no widgets. I'll have to try and freeze some more bloat.

Use setcpu, and use scaling performance so that it's truly running at 1.5GHz. Samsung uses "on-demand" speed scaling, so when you test, there's a chance it might be running at less than 1.5 if it hasn't scaled up to 1.5 yet
I'm running stock ROM (only rooted), CWM b4 recovery, and Da_G overclock kernel

Dont just freeze bloat uninstall it! I never freeze it.

i'm running stock everything except i run an installed Launcher. why would mine be higher than some others? does rooting slow it down?

here is my benchmark.
Using GO launcher, 6 home screens, 11 widgets - WidgetLocker Running in background w/ beautiful widgets.
SauROM w/ DaG kernel overclocked - 1.83 ghz - V6 supercharger script 1000+hp
My setCPU is 1.83 on "performance" setting (yes it makes a difference).
*Also, used RomToolboxPro to change i/o scheduler to Deadline and increase SD read write from 128kb to 3072kb...

Here is mine running Saurom with Da G kernal. Clock is at 1566mhz.
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ARTAQaf said:
i was watching the phonedog.com dogfight between the Gnote and the iP 4s (no surprise the Gnote wins )
anyways, he ran the Quadrant Standard Edition so i went and installed it....his test came out to 2396. i ran the same test and mine came out to 3223. i wonder why there was such a difference? perhaps he hadn't rebooted his in awhile. i have no widgets running, perhaps that is why.
please share yours
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Couple things here, and by no means am I an Apple fan to ANY degree, but....
4S is close to year old technology, so comparing it to a brand new superphone like the Note (even the Skyrocket which has been to market for a couple months now) is silly. I generally like Phonedog and was genuinely surprised that guy would even compare the two devices. It sets a really silly precedent because 8 months from now, he'll likely make the same comparison between the Note and the Iphone5 which just might be similarly unfair, in the other direction.
Also, Quadrant is very nearly fraudulent in terms of its usefulness in showing the "actual" speed of a device, in a real-world sense, so I take ANY statement that starts or ends with Quadrant benchmarking with a huge truckload of salt.
Just my take...
-Ryan

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Here is mine running Saurom with Da G kernal. Clock is at 1566mhz.
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Hey did you see somewhere on here, there is a guy whos getting 3999? wonder what he has.

CWM b4, Da_G's Oc Kernel, Saurom, and a lot of bloatware uninstall.
CPU set to "Performance" 1.83ghz = 3900.

DA_g kernel, OC to 1.782, on demand, no reset and no ram clear. Wanted to see what it would if i was to do the test in real world situation (like showing off to friends);-)
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away!

Lol...how many benchmark threads are we going to start....I think there are 4 or 5 now
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Running saurom with Da G overclocked kernel clocked @ 1.782
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3930 at 1.83
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ARTAQaf said:
nice jjc!
idk m8. hopefully someone will reply with an idea. i am interested in knowing why we all have diff #'s when we have stock rom.
do you have a widget(s) running?
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I have stock at&t note and get 3200-3300. If I don't clear the RAM, i get 2300-2700. So, just got to task manager, ram tab, and clear the memory, then use quadrant.

3203 Stock the way it comes setup.
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Quadrant Score over 1.300?! Who?

Hello Guys, i have a freaky problem, i see a lot of screen with Android 2.2.1 Custom Rom, with a Score over 1.300.
I have just 1.000 +/- but never 1.300 how can i tune my Rom for over 1.300 Score in Quadrant?
I use MIUI Froyo from Trip with Launcher Pro Plus, i killed all processes and delete all Apps what i dont need, what is wrong?
g00x said:
Hello Guys, i have a freaky problem, i see a lot of screen with Android 2.2.1 Custom Rom, with a Score over 1.300.
I have just 1.000 +/- but never 1.300 how can i tune my Rom for over 1.300 Score in Quadrant?
I use MIUI Froyo from Trip with Launcher Pro Plus, i killed all processes and delete all Apps what i dont need, what is wrong?
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Don't expect much and it doesn't matter
Higher score doesnt always means that yo device is faster
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Higher score doesnt always means that yo device is faster
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oh wow i thought it does ,and yea my quadrant runs 1300 , when i do it 2nd time
always ignore the first results on those benchmark apps
but i agree that people need to stop obsessing with these things, data2sd could give you high scores but the phone would lag so, if you can cheat it doesn't mean anything.
I used data 2 sd, and got a quadrant score of 2600, but phone started to lag. don't worry about the score, i mean, once you've seen yours get that high, the novelty wears off
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I agree. Have achieved 2839 with data2sd and 1603 without, but you have to spend 5 minutes changing all your settings about to get this plus it burns through your battery. No one would actually use the phone like that. And you have to keep lots of memery free so either few apps installed or all on SD and it takes ages for them to appear again on reboot.
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And you don't really notice any difference actually using phone so bit pointless.
I only use quadrant now to compare between roms that are both set to my personal preferences to compare performance.
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I agree that benchmark scores are not important in everyday use and that u can have great scores and laggy phone, BUT his question stil stands.
Why does he get low scores at same setup that most people have graet score?
Nevermind the benefits of high scores, what is the reason?
3 things....
1) he needs to close useless apps ...
2) move quadrant to sd card (with app2sd)
3) run benchmark 2 times ... 2nd result should be around 1300 on custom roms ...
if you got still really bad performance, maybe your sd card is slow/"old"
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KingCifer said:
3 things....
1) he needs to close useless apps ...
2) move quadrant to sd card (with app2sd)
3) run benchmark 2 times ... 2nd result should be around 1300 on custom roms ...
if you got still really bad performance, maybe your sd card is slow/"old"
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1. i have A LOT of running apps, widgets
2. i do not use app2sd and data2sd
3. i do run quadrant 2 times
4. my SD is stock class 2
on Wolf's CM 6 my score (Quadrant advanced) is from 1350 to 1550
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and another strange thing is:
my work mate have x10. we bought it from the same operator. he bought it 2 months after i did.
We both, at the same time, installed same custom ROM (Wolf's CM 6). We followed the exact same procedure (after SD format and repair via PC Companion) and without any exta apps (only Quadrant) instaled i have much better Quadrant scores, he has some issues that i dont have, my battery lasts almost twice longer.
Strange, is'nt it?
But, on the other way, he has BMW M5 and I have Mazda 2, so I think this is fair.
it all depends on how you did your initial charge for battery. did you use it right away, or charge it right away for 5+ hours? ask your mate what he did
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As far as I understand electonics, battery condition can have influence on battery life, but not on benchmark scores when both of batterys are completly full and on the same setup.

[Q]High quadrant scores?

So I hate benchmarks but I got bored so I ran a quadrant on my tab...I got 4221...is that a mistake?
wow. seems great to me. I was getting about 2500. I switch my governor to performance and it jumped up to over 3500 though. I've got ally of apps though so I figure not bad for me either. What's you governor set at getting over 4000?
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Well guyz You should try a new rom to get High Scores on your quardrent tests
Well Here is a few roms that i used to get high quardrent scores
Paris rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355 - Personally I love this rom because it overclockes my Tab and give me 3000++ scores
Starbust Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197776 -This one also overclockes your processor to 1.4Ghz and improves I/O and other graphic values
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Well guyz You should try a new rom to get High Scores on your quardrent tests
Well Here is a few roms that i used to get high quardrent scores
Paris rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284355 - Personally I love this rom because it overclockes my Tab and give me 3000++ scores
Starbust Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197776 -This one also overclockes your processor to 1.4Ghz and improves I/O and other graphic values
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ok...not to be mean...don't tell me what is helpful or not...
btw: i dont CARE about benchmark scores...AT ALL!!!!!
i just wondered why it was so high since engadget and other review sites say its like 1000.
@benzoman - just stock settings on cm9 preview (rootzwiki)
Running Task 14 overclocked to 1400 here. Couldn't get me to change ROMs for almost anything. Unless it was to an updated Task ROM. I'm running some of pershoots kernel stuff too.
Don't really care about benchmarks myself either. Just thought I'd run the quadrant to see what I got compared to what you got.
As long as it's stable and doesn't lag that's all I care.
Task has always taken VERY good care of me in all aspects of what I want, and need. So that's why I'm so partial to his stuff and suggestions of what to run with his ROMs.
Thanks mate for something to do at least for a few minutes.
EDIT: Just noticed both suggested ROMs are old Task ROMs too. LMAO
Yeah I'm running to change to an older ROM so my scores go up. NOT. :what:
If you see this it was sent using my GT-P7510.
tried many different roms and quadrant scores were different. never felt any difference on daily use of my tab though. Let's face it, we all are affected by that guy on that galaxytabhacks site
davsarus said:
tried many different roms and quadrant scores were different. never felt any difference on daily use of my tab though. Let's face it, we all are affected by that guy on that galaxytabhacks site
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i know!!!!!
all he does...."alright lets just open up quadrant here and see what we get...2 mins later....alright thats the rom..it only got 2000..screw that..."
lol!
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i know!!!!!
all he does...."alright lets just open up quadrant here and see what we get...2 mins later....alright thats the rom..it only got 2000..screw that..."
lol!
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Lol glad that im not alone
Mine on ICS for the first time its benchmark is nearly 4000 too, my expression was like this:
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well never mind, i can return to human form at anytime so benchmark is not really a big deal, just for showing off, i thought
what is actually your best score? i have about 4000 with cm9 from pershoot and 1.7.4 aacount-kernel.
Ran this on my tab with AOKP 4.1.2 and A1 Kernell 1.8.2 running at 1.6Ghz and only got 3435
My Tab is currently running Fourth Bar Revolution ICS 4.0.4 ROM with default ROM settings and Yoda Kernel 2.4.
Quadrant @ 1.2GHz (Interactive) = 2915
Quadrant @ 1.4GHz (Interactive) = 3317
Quadrant @ 1.6GHz (Interactive) = 3558
AnTuTu @ 1.2GHz (Interactive) = 6060
AnTuTu @ 1.4GHz (Interactive) = 6793
AnTuTu @ 1.6GHz (Interactive) = 7409

YESSSSS!!!! - Number 1 spot on Antutu.

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I officially have the fastest tablet on the planet according to Antutu!!
YES! Sub zero cooling for the WIN!
I forgot to add.... U S A , U S A, U S A!!! LOL
I just added my best CFbench score. This is on 1.7ghz @ 600mhz GPU.
Thanks to Diamond for the wonderful rom.
Thanks to Motley and Shaky for the amazing kernel
Thanks to Droidth3ory for all the work on the phone side of things, without your help and awesome roms I would not be into flashing!
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Congratulations man lol!!
Awesome man!
Maybe we could fab some sort of water to air intercooler. I am sure you could find one easy in NoVa, with all those boosted civics running around.
Thanks, my wife thinks I am the biggest dork in the world.
I was in the kitchen benching and all she heard was F*** YEAAH!!!!! LOL!
EDIT: I think the cooling solution I have (the temporary one atleast) is plenty for benching at 2.0ghz.
Bring it on kernel makers =)
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lol Congrats. I bet you could easily hit 16000. try this and I bet you score alot higher. get system tuner. then go into could tweaks. set the governor there to Performance. then set the min. speed slider all the way up to Max. now you should see all 4 of your CPU maxed out @ 1.8Ghz full time. meaning each core is active @ 1.8Ghz. the regular overclocking doesn't enable all 4 cores to run at once at those speeds. Method I just described will and is why I usually score alot higher than people on same 1.6Ghz clock speed as me. my 2D and 3D scores on quadrant was even higher than that one guy who made the 1.8Ghz available. and that was me still @ 1.6ghz. my 2D score was more than double his @ 1.8Ghz. you can also go into settings, then developer options. then enable the force gpu rendering. that should help increase your scores also.
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Thanks, my wife thinks I am the biggest dork in the world.
I was in the kitchen benching and all she heard was F*** YEAAH!!!!! LOL!
EDIT: I think the cooling solution I have (the temporary one atleast) is plenty for benching at 2.0ghz.
Bring it on kernel makers =)
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Nice! I have my kernel running at 1.8 GHz now. I basically enabled what I had the first time I tried, but now the voltages are the same as my latest 1.7. This time it runs fine. I am a little disappointed that the scores aren't higher though and keep wondering what else is limiting us. Hope to do more study soon. The voltage regulator is keeping us pinned at 1500mV and I haven't tried to up that yet. We don't need it yet...but we will if we want to go higher.
_motley said:
Nice! I have my kernel running at 1.8 GHz now. I basically enabled what I had the first time I tried, but now the voltages are the same as my latest 1.7. This time it runs fine. I am a little disappointed that the scores aren't higher though and keep wondering what else is limiting us. Hope to do more study soon. The voltage regulator is keeping us pinned at 1500mV and I haven't tried to up that yet. We don't need it yet...but we will if we want to go higher.
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Anyway I could get a copy of your kernel? I am using a different 1.8ghz kernel but I dont think it has the tweaks yours has. Maybe PM it to me if your willing.
EDIT: I wonder if there is a way to make the kernel use 1.6ghz for balanced and then use performance to screw around with. Can I edit this myself motley?
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Just updated with new CFbench score. Will try to go higher with this test kernel, these are just the first few runs I did.
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Sometimes I wonder what our mates who are completely uninterested in technology think when we do something like what the OP said in the kitchen. I'm currently dating a guy who likes to write more than anything else. Writing creatively just isn't my cup of tea. He, on the other hand, is just not interested at all with technology. And somehow we've gravitated toward each other.
He some times give me weird looks when I yell out "****, yeah!" after I've hard modded something or successfully soldered things together that weren't meant to be together and still work. I guess opposites do attract.
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Sometimes I wonder what our mates who are completely uninterested in technology think when we do something like what the OP said in the kitchen. I'm currently dating a guy who likes to write more than anything else. Writing creatively just isn't my cup of tea. He, on the other hand, is just not interested at all with technology. And somehow we've gravitated toward each other.
He some times give me weird looks when I yell out "****, yeah!" after I've hard modded something or successfully soldered things together that weren't meant to be together and still work. I guess opposites do attract.
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My fiance knows how to work a PC because of her job. I got my first PC after we got together 10 years ago (I was 22) and she showed me the basics...then all hell broke loose.
I love anything and everything tech, and have had 5 Android devices since, not including PCs and MP3players,etc and I am constantly showing and telling her about how I have to unlock this,flash this, yadayada, and she always laughs and calls me a dork. BUT, when I bought my Prime, I didn't want her to ***** about me already having a TouchPad, so I bought her a 7" Galaxy Tab, and it turns out a lot of the stuff I showed her actually rubbed off, because she jumped right into Android and loves it.
So, you never know I guess. It's so cool that she understands much of what I tell her about home launchers, apps,Widgets, and Modding now.

Why is the S2 3D performance lower than S1?

I found my old galaxy S last night and thought I would run a quick benchmark using Quadrant against my galaxy S2. As you would expect the S2 overal beat the S1... apart from 3D performance. It was only a few marks faster but the S1 did out perform. This was noticeable on the gpu section where they is a planet revolving around the frame rate was almost double that of the s2. Both phones are running ginger bread 2.3.5 @ stock
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First of all, look at all the things you have running in the background on the S2.
Second thing, you're probably running the android 4 optimized version of quadrant on the s2 and the old gb version on the s1.
Install the newest on both. Reboot them both. Test then.
If you still have problems go into settings->applications->running and see what's slowing down your phone.
It's propably because the software runs more efficient on the S1.
Also who cares about benchmarks anyways? There aren't any apps out there for the S2 which have good graphics or bring the processors to its limits. Name me one which does that.
Ive now come to the conclusion the quadrant simply is **** :d
ics 3D perf gone up but 2d dropped dramatically obviously far too software limited.
My goodness that notification bar is packed
same here my eyes were on the noti bar ,,its full.
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First of all, look at all the things you have running in the background on the S2.
Second thing, you're probably running the android 4 optimized version of quadrant on the s2 and the old gb version on the s1.
Install the newest on both. Reboot them both. Test then.
If you still have problems go into settings->applications->running and see what's slowing down your phone.
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Wow the replies are either fanboyism or just honest ignorance and mistakes.
First of all he is running the same current version on both.
All those things running in the background are actually on the S1 not the S2...
Frozenthunder said:
It's propably because the software runs more efficient on the S1.
Also who cares about benchmarks anyways? There aren't any apps out there for the S2 which have good graphics or bring the processors to its limits. Name me one which does that.
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Its not just quadrant standard that shows this. I have consistently been dissapointed with the SGS2 3d perf in general.
Name one?
Jet car stunts runs worse on the SGS2 and looks worse than on the SGS1.
The SGS2 refresh rate is also lower making games run worse.
IF you look at sysetm information, CUBE MAPS and CROSSBAR COMBINED not supported on the SGS2. Everything supported on the SGS1.
Personal experience, a lot of 3D games run much nicer and look nicer on the SGS1.
Really disappointed withe SGS2 screen and 3D perf.
The SGS 2 has a Mali gpu, while the SGS 1 has a PowerVR gpu. Theoretically SGS 2 should be faster but because of architecture differences it may behave worse under conditions that favour the PowerVR. I have not had problems with my SGS 2 being slow but I have not played really demanding games yet.
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My goodness that notification bar is packed
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It's because that phone hasn't been switched on for a ages and it also has no Sim so when I turned it on things like Ebay spring up with old messages
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Emexrulsier said:
It's because that phone hasn't been switched on for a ages and it also has no Sim so when I turned it on things like Ebay spring up with old messages
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for benchmark u can try Antutu app over Qadrant app since it gives more accurate results over and above Quadrant one

Really Ridiculously Low Scores

I'm running Vanilla RootBox 5-18 w/ houstonn minimum 167ghz kernel. These are real crappy Quadrant Standard scores. I'm amazed at how bad they are. I've ran RootBox before, and I was getting around 7000+ I'm not sure why they've dropped so much, and on stock I got 8000+ but this.. This is just sad. I'm not saying this is a RootBox problem, Im just wondering if any of you guys are getting these results?
I tuned everything to its MAX for one and the other one is the usual settings I have it on. But for it to be on max, isn't this a little low.
The 5k one is max settings the 3k one is my normal settings.
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Settings for max.
Thanks! Looking forward to yalls comments.
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Eh. Benchmark scores are influenced by so many things, they're not really a very good indicator of performance. Does your phone do what you need it to? Is it quick enough for you? Then don't work about any bm score.
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Digil said:
Eh. Benchmark scores are influenced by so many things, they're not really a very good indicator of performance. Does your phone do what you need it to? Is it quick enough for you? Then don't work about any bm score.
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Yeah it is still snappy quick. I'm just obsessed with my bm scores. I have a old phone that is a peice of crap, and now they are about equal in benchmark scores. :/ Its just a little frightening. I think it may just be getting lower and lower because flashing things adds junk, then when you get rid of that and add a different thing, the junk stays there and just keeps piling up. Do you know if LGNPST completely gets rid of everything? or just /system, /data?
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Yeah it is still snappy quick. I'm just obsessed with my bm scores. I have a old phone that is a peice of crap, and now they are about equal in benchmark scores. :/ Its just a little frightening. I think it may just be getting lower and lower because flashing things adds junk, then when you get rid of that and add a different thing, the junk stays there and just keeps piling up. Do you know if LGNPST completely gets rid of everything? or just /system, /data?
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What??? When you flash a different ROM just wipe "system reset" and if you want system. That will format you data, system and cache partitions. This is known as a "clean flash". Then wipe dalvik/cache and reboot.
BM scores are irrelevant. What matters is how the ROM/phone performs.
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Tyler44346 said:
Yeah it is still snappy quick. I'm just obsessed with my bm scores. I have a old phone that is a peice of crap, and now they are about equal in benchmark scores. :/ Its just a little frightening. I think it may just be getting lower and lower because flashing things adds junk, then when you get rid of that and add a different thing, the junk stays there and just keeps piling up. Do you know if LGNPST completely gets rid of everything? or just /system, /data?
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That's not why. Software can influence benchmarks. I've used some lagfixes on my Captivate to push it higher than some S3 scores. Ignore benchmarks they have no importance. I'd worry more about the phone doing what I want without issues.
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This. And also, the quality of the benchmarking solution can be an issue as well. I have heard that Quadrant is outdated and does not benchmark fast, quality phones very well. Check out Antutu maybe....
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Its always been easy to cheat at synthetic benchmarks. They're worthless.
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I'm going to disagree s bit an say benchmarks are good for testing a phone against it self. Has your phone gotten higher scores before? If so, my guess is temperature throttling. Down load quick system info app. It will show cores and usage while operating so you can see if you're reaching top max settings. Click arrow next to info in notification tray and info will float like qslide
OG e970 stock+
mystery emotionz 5.1
1.72 GHz oc/uv
It's not entirely throttling. I've disabled temp throttling, run it in the deep freeze, etc. I also check time in state logs to verify that all cores stay pegged at maxfreq.
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Lg did a great job with optimizing the stock ROM n kernel. This is why stock out scores aosp. To bad you don't feel the difference in day to day use.
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