Hi, how can i increase the 3d performance of my x10 without overclocking or changing my rom? i already installed the fps uncap but i dont know if this just works for 2d or not.....
Isnt that what chainfire 3d does? Its a meeker app (requires root I think)
Edit: market, not meeker.
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I dont know this tool, but i now read some reviews and there is just one guy with a x10 who wrote one, and he reportet that (maybe just some) games don't work for him (i dont know if they worked before), but i really dont want to screw anything up, also there is a warning that some devices may not be able to boot after the install..........the x10 isnt on the list of tested phones either
Its due to our device being old and not having much in the way of 3d performance. What is it for? Gaming?
Edit: also, just to add, we xperia x10 owners have the advantage of having a phone which is very difficult to "brick" (due to flashtool). We can always really flash stock firmware, hence, if chainfire did anything to ur device it is still reversible/fixable
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Raex said:
I dont know this tool, but i now read some reviews and there is just one guy with a x10 who wrote one, and he reportet that (maybe just some) games don't work for him (i dont know if they worked before), but i really dont want to screw anything up, also there is a warning that some devices may not be able to boot after the install..........the x10 isnt on the list of tested phones either
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I tried it many times, & it always worked! I'm sure it will work for u too...
Btw, yes it will boot (I tested it )
And how much is the performance increased?? Will i see a difference in the timescape app for example?
No don't think so I think it is to do mostly with gaming. Why is timescape laggy for u?
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Well, yeah its just not smooth, its a bit slow and a bit laggy.......both the widget on the homescreen and the actual timescape app, except of timescape pretty much everything runns smooth now after i installed the fps uncap........so how do i get timescape (widget and actual app) to run smooth? Thats what i want, i dont really care too much about the performance in 3d games, i've already tested tiki kart 3d, fruit slice and raging thunder 2 and all three run perfectly well and completely smooth, but not timescape (?), which is a bit weird because i think that those games need more performance than timescape....
So does anyone know how i can fix this and make timescape run smoothly?
laneyofdeath said:
Isnt that what chainfire 3d does? Its a meeker app (requires root I think)
Edit: market, not meeker.
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You can use Chainfire 3D root, but it affects other games, it will run Tegra 2/3 Games such as Shadowgun but will affect games like little empire etc.
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Raex said:
Hi, how can i increase the 3d performance of my x10 without overclocking or changing my rom? i already installed the fps uncap but i dont know if this just works for 2d or not.....
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Use wolfbreaks ROM if your on Unlocked bl use Dooms Max OC and just drop the voltage a slight amount using No frills, i dont suggest keeping at this can burn ur CPU, and also play in charge, 3D games will kill ur battery
Raex said:
Well, yeah its just not smooth, its a bit slow and a bit laggy.......both the widget on the homescreen and the actual timescape app, except of timescape pretty much everything runns smooth now after i installed the fps uncap........so how do i get timescape (widget and actual app) to run smooth? Thats what i want, i dont really care too much about the performance in 3d games, i've already tested tiki kart 3d, fruit slice and raging thunder 2 and all three run perfectly well and completely smooth, but not timescape (?), which is a bit weird because i think that those games need more performance than timescape....
So does anyone know how i can fix this and make timescape run smoothly?
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I think it just timescape its a bit laggy in general
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I have noticed that there are alot of games that run quite slow on wildfire and the same ones i have tested run smooth even on X10 mini !!! such as Paper toss and fruit ninja and angry birds !
I have even OC my wildfire but they still lag or are slow
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I have noticed that there are alot of games that run quite slow on wildfire and the same ones i have tested run smooth even on X10 mini !!! such as Paper toss and fruit ninja and angry birds !
I have even OC my wildfire but they still lag or are slow
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Yes, we all know that. It's the way it should be. X10 mini has more powerful hardware than Wildfire which is lacking a dedicated graphics chip.
Did you want to ask a question?
X10's processor is almost 100mhz more than wildfire
And the point if this thread is...? We know the wildfire has no gpu which is why games run slower. If you're complaining about the lack of game support, maybe you should have thought before you bought this phone.
the hardware simply isn't good enough
if i overclock will that help?
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if i overclock will that help?
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A little. Paper toss should run quite smooth with overclock.
guys dont go rush its not all hardware problem like processor or ram , u can compare the wildfire to htc magic u ll find that the wildfire has great ram over the magic and same processor ,however magic runs games smooth , the main problem is the screen resolution of the wildfire .
thats all
Hey guys, this thing poped up a while ago over at the Galaxy S forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981125
its suppose to increase overall smoothness of the phone in general, no porting was required to go on to basically all the other galaxy s and works for most of the froyo Roms. This is not suppose to change the benchmark scores in anyway, so the increase/decrease is most likely due to something else
Flashing the update.zip WILL NOT WORK, you have to use the alternative method which is replacing the files with root explorer, or something similar.
So it seems we have a mixed bag of results, if you actually applied the tweak (properly), please please vote if it works for you or not.
and of course, i take absolutely no credit for the work
Interesting post. I just backed up those two files:
/system/bin/app_process
/system/bin/system_server
...and then installed it through xRecovery. It seems to work fine. I mean, the bootanimation is still there, and nothing seems to crash (except Angry Birds for some reason, but I think that was already happening before I installed this). I can't say whether or not it's had a big effect though. Scrolling though the app drawer (in ADWLauncher EX) seems pretty smooth, as does scrolling in Root Explorer. I'll have to try it longer.
Thanks!
Edit: Wait, I don't think it installed properly. I checked the filesizes and they're still the originals. I'll try it again. Hold on.
hmmm no noticeable change but it did seem to boost my linpack
could be placebo but it does seem slightly smoother, like maybe it maxes your fps or something along those lines
Yup, not very noticeable but seem to increase my quadrant 10%. Still need to test more.
But, install in xrecovery, file date still 2008, file size fixed with new install. Anybody, have same issue?
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Yup, installing it through xRecovery does nothing. It doesn't give an error, but it doesn't copy the files either. I managed to install the files properly using adb through xRecovery. I tried though adb while the phone was booted normally, but it couldn't overwrite the files because they were in use.
After installing, it works, but same story as above. I can't tell if it's better or worse. Quadrant scores about the same (~1300 for me) and Linpack scores around 34 (instead of 30 normally). The Linpack score could be because I had just rebooted though.
BTW, this is on FreeX10 beta 4.
Yup, just applied it (using Root Explorer) on CM 6.1.3 V4.4, after reading your post.. Killed boot-animation (to show its there), and doesn't seem to harm anything besides that. Hard to tell the difference, but maybe less laggy (I use Go Launcher (as cube) and LOTS of widgets) and apps loading slightly faster/ smoother.. Think I'll keep it!
Thank you for pointing, and thanks to nikademus! )
I'm on cm6.1.3 4.5.7, my x10 run at maximum 600mhz (setcpu) to save power. It's seem better speed. Just keep it, at least it's not harmful
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Can anyone confirm if it actually does something really noticeable? Like maybe making the arc launcher a bit less laggy in Wolfbreak's rom??
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Can anyone confirm if it actually does something really noticeable? Like maybe making the arc launcher a bit less laggy in Wolfbreak's rom??
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it does definitely seem to improve scores at least, like stated though you need to use root explorer to move the files into the system/bin/ folder yourself. flashing the zip doesn't work
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Can anyone confirm if it actually does something really noticeable? Like maybe making the arc launcher a bit less laggy in Wolfbreak's rom??
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How noticeable does it really need to be? I love the Go Launcher because HS can be configured as rotating cube (a bit like my Linux with Compiz), but it had begone to feel a little laggy and now its perfectly smooth again.. Good enough for me!
thats weird, i don't think its suppose to raise any scores. But i guess on a different device it might have different effects.
FWIR what its suppose to do is raise the FPS across the phone and hold it constant.
Just in case imma backup using nandroid then ill install these two files and see what they do!
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killed boot animation which i dont care.
and seems a bit smoother as far as scrolling goes.
so i'd say it did some good and no harm as of now.
I did test quadrant with 1ghz and confirmed not increase my quadrant. But during 3d test fps go up and down unlike before. Xrecovery intallation worked for me, it's kill my bootanimation too.
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Does it really kill boot animation. But I like the cyanogen animation. Does it replace it with something else?
Also do I have to do anything with that Meta file?
Is it possible to reinstall the boot animation or is it impossible with this mod?
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Is it possible to reinstall the boot animation or is it impossible with this mod?
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I installed it using root explorer earlier and a can't see much difference to be fair...
The fps do seem a lil more consistent
And no I looked on the galaxy s thread and couldnt find anything to do with replacing it correct me if I'm wrong mate
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I replaced both of the files by Root Explorer also made a backup.
Then set my cpu speed to (Performance) max 576Mhz min 245.
Phone performance - maintain (scrolling smoother) but manage to save me more battery.
Can't tell the performance for gaming as I'm not a big fans of games.
But it did make my x10i smooth, and save battery!
Edit : Angrybirds running smooth
If you look closely enough, the X10 drops frames severely with this tweak applied. To see what I mean, keep a close eye on the GFX benchmarks in Quadrant, you will notice it drops frames after every 5-8 seconds.
I tested it on Angry Birds too, it drops frames - you just have to watch closely and you will see it. I don't know if it has affected my Quadrant score 'coz I never benchmarked it before replacing the files, and with these 2 files replaced, my score is 1329.
Edit : I'm on Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 [2.2.1] v4.4 with MattedBlues theme applied. If neither of you experience dropped frames, it might as well be the theme or the ROM, not sure.
Hi!
As many of you have noticed, the x10 has very unsmooth touch. Is it only the FPS cap that is limited or is there something else, like hardware? Iv'e heard that Gingerbread have a 32fps cap, does it have that on all devices? Shouldnt their scrolling be unsmooth then? There have to be just not the capped FPS?
Hi!
The smoothness of scrolling, animations and the UI in general is affected by the FPS-cap. It also affects the touch polling rate which you can notice as slow touch response when tapping something or playing a game like Fruit Ninja. There is a custom kernel which removes this cap but it's battery life is horrible. I'd imagine it won't take long to see a fully working kernel without the battery issues and the FPS-cap disabled.
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My scrolling isn't too bad. Using rdnars SuperAOSP and the only time I find it lags is when my screen is dirty or I'm running some major usage on the memory. As far as I' aware they are the only two major things you'll come across in the better ROMS here that should effect it.
got to disagree i think the x10 is as smooth as any been playin around with my bros desire hd and cant really tell much difference between
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The FPS-cap affecting smoothness is a FACT. The importance of this fact however is a matter of personal preference. My personal preference is to keep it uncapped. I'm on the verge of buying a second hand iPhone 3GS/4 just because of the godly smoothness of iOS. I'm just waiting to see if the upcoming 2.3 update uncaps this since the devs seem to not be as interested in uncapping the FPS as they are in overclocking/undervolting, which I think the former is absolutely useless when you can achieve the same perceived fastness/smoothness without overclocking.
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My scrolling isn't too bad. Using rdnars SuperAOSP and the only time I find it lags is when my screen is dirty or I'm running some major usage on the memory. As far as I' aware they are the only two major things you'll come across in the better ROMS here that should effect it.
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I agree with you, in fact there are 2 other roms that has smooth scrolling which are Wolfbreak's CM6.1.3 rom and cobrato's MIUI1.3.8v2 rom, try to use GO Launcher EX you'll feel the difference...
Hi I'm using trips 2.2 and I must say with the fps cap the scrolling is horrible
Custom kernel <3
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Hey guys... from where to get custom kernel for tripNraver 2.2 froyo rom. I want fps to be uncapped. Please post link. Thanxx
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have you guys tried the
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=260
hack? Add that line to your build.prop if it isn't already there.
Makes it a lot smoother
a1exander said:
Hi!
As many of you have noticed, the x10 has very unsmooth touch. Is it only the FPS cap that is limited or is there something else, like hardware? Iv'e heard that Gingerbread have a 32fps cap, does it have that on all devices? Shouldnt their scrolling be unsmooth then? There have to be just not the capped FPS?
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I'm not 100% sure but i think the driver is hacked to be slightly laggy.
Hi every!
a friend of mine gave me his X10 cuz he had many problems with it, mainly it was slow.
now the most important thing for him is games and speed (mainly touch responsiveness)
one of the games he wants to play is Assassin Creed, I saw a video on Youtube of someone playing this game and he uses TW ROM,
when i try to flash that ROM on my friend's device in boots and then few secs later restarts, over and over.
i cant figure why it happens, as im using the right BB. help!
besides this, i tried many other ROMs, but Assassin Creed worked on neither of them, i would think that this game is not meant to run on this device but i saw that Youtube video...
last thing, i loaded EWJET ROM, was amazing, everything was really fast and touch was really responsive compared to stock and other roms, but in quadrant it got only 1000 pt, while in TripNMIUI ROM it got 1500 pt, even tho it felt much slower and less responsive.
why is that?
Thanks!!!
yossi_s1 said:
last thing, i loaded EWJET ROM, was amazing, everything was really fast and touch was really responsive compared to stock and other roms, but in quadrant it got only 1000 pt, while in TripNMIUI ROM it got 1500 pt, even tho it felt much slower and less responsive.
why is that?
Thanks!!!
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I think just there, you solved your own problem.
Is Quadrant that important to your friend?
Does he want a fast phone for gaming
or a phone that scores high in Quandrant?
The thing with Quadrant is that even though is commonly used,
it's easily "cheatable" and bottom line is, it should be used as a reference
and not as an evaluation point for user experience.
Oh well, I thought that quadrant measures FPS which basically tells you how well games will run, but then, high FPS with ****ed up touch is pointless...
Thanks for your answer
yossi_s1 said:
Oh well, I thought that quadrant measures FPS which basically tells you how well games will run, but then, high FPS with ****ed up touch is pointless...
Thanks for your answer
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It does measure FPS but it's only a part of the tests conducted,
so the results do not mean anything FPS-wise.
And FPS are kernel-related, indepedent of custom ROMs,
so you could try using Z's latest kernel that raises the FPS to about 48-50 max.
Thanks very much for your help, I am actually using zkernel which is really good...
so i guess no idea why the restart loop happens, or anything about games compatibility.
anyway, u made me wounder... you said that i can use zkernel...
is there a way to flash only kernel to use with specific ROM? or that isnt a good idea/possible at all.
Update:
At the end I loaded MIUI ROM 1.7.01 with zKernelbb67
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152555
pretty good ROM, runs pretty good, with it i installed chainfire3D from the market, and now all the games are working pretty good, so everything sorted out.
yossi_s1 said:
Update:
At the end I loaded MIUI ROM 1.7.01 with zKernelbb67
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152555
pretty good ROM, runs pretty good, with it i installed chainfire3D from the market, and now all the games are working pretty good, so everything sorted out.
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Glad you sorted it out! I also use MIUI with the zkernel overclocked and games run really smooth!
Then again I mostly play Cut The Rope and Angry Birds (2D games)! LOL!
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Hey All
I recently downloaded Gta III From the market But there is significant Lag
(I am using Cm7 With Full Oc)
But I have seen videos on youtube Of people playing Gta III on their Optimus one.
I Have heard Of a Gta version where it doesn't lag But the graphics are bad
Could i PLEASE have a download link for Gta III one that dosnt Lag (i dont care if the graphics are Bad)
GTAIII Optimization
There's two ways I can think of making it run smoother.
1. Chainfire3D. It's a root app, found in the market, whose sole purpose is to enable games on devices that wouldn't normally be able to play them. You have to buy it to unlock everything, but I've been able to use the free version on my Moto Droid to play GTAIII better.
2. Delete the audio folder. Once you have everything downloaded, manually delete the audio folder. If the phone isn't constantly trying to play music or SFX, it will run a bit quicker.
The specific apk isn't going to matter, unless rockstar made huge optimizations to code in recent versions, but as you've DLed from the market, that shouldn't matter, no? Overall, I'd recommend against trying to run it. The optimus isn't really made to handle 3D games in general, much less GTAIII. Good luck, though.
the processor
your rom have overclock? that could help. try to put over 700 mhz in perfomance governor
with OC the p500 will not warm up ?
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with OC the p500 will not warm up ?
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No.
Maybe a little bit. But nothing will be damaged. Don`t worry, the only thing you can have, is reboot.
Here ya go buddy:
http://andropediaapps.blogspot.com/2011/12/grand-theft-auto-gta-iii-v10-apk-full.html
Find on this post: New Version for Low/Middle End Devices is released by Andropedia. Click Here
or here direct link: http://andropediaapps.blogspot.com/2012/01/gta-iii-gta3-apk-full-sd-data-finally.html
Go there, download game that is around 70-90MB, and apk, and do the same what you did with original!
Graphics are pretty bad in this one, and there is often a bug where you will after 20m in front of yourself see only some pink wall, and ofc no sound...
But runs better, still lagged pretty much on mik_os 6.5.7 but now will test it in PerfectPeso2.2 and see how it is. With full game, on PerfectPeso, it didn't lagged so much like on the rest of the ROMs so I expect this one to run smootly now...
And yeah, just overclock it until kernel starts to reboot, i got mine stable on 825Mhz, on 844 it runs about 1 hour, and on 864 it got nearly 10min in mik_os 6.5.7, but now on PerfectPeso there is no option to go beyond 806mhz...:/ But still frikin fast!
UPDATE: yeah on PerfectPeso2.2 fresh installed no tweaks ripped version will run almost lagless, 15-25fps, but totaly playable! And no pink wall bug anymore!!!
Tried this game a while back and the result was the same... The lag made the game unplayable..
Tested it on CM7. PerfectPeso2.2 sound's good from what you say, but will not change the rom just for a game .