ICS bugs seem to be device specific - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I noticed something interesting with the latest ICS leak. I have a black/blue note and I flashed the DAG alpha rom and the phone works great. It reboots properly, SMS always works...in general its great.
My girlfriends white note, i followed the same procedure, same rom and hers is actually showing all the bugs everyones reporting. Her sms stops working, sometimes camera FCs, cant reboot using the menu and in general seems buggy.
It is definately interesting how the rom acts completely different on my girlfriends phone.
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Tried to full wipe and flash it a second time?

Well maybe its true.. I have the white one, the camera is laggy, the calculater is also laggy browser too... Ect
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I generally find that restoring backups of apps and data leads to a lot of issues arising after a new flash, especially between a major version.
For the record I don't do backups, and haven't experienced any of the issues mentioned in other threads apart from poor signal. This was the same with the i9220 ICS leak on the N7000 - ran perfectly fine for me, but everyone had random FCs and whatnot, and found it unstable.
It may take longer to re-install all your apps from the Market one-by-one, but you generally reap the rewards in stability after a fresh flash, especially jumping between Android versions.
Of course everyone's mileage may vary, and I know a lot of people swear by their backups

I have a white one and have had absolutely no issues. I would definitely have her re flash it.
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I have the Black Note from Rogers and I have not seen any issues other than TWLauncher Force Closing a few times. I run Nova Launcher Now and it stopped.

juzz86 said:
I generally find that restoring backups of apps and data leads to a lot of issues arising after a new flash, especially between a major version.
For the record I don't do backups, and haven't experienced any of the issues mentioned in other threads apart from poor signal. This was the same with the i9220 ICS leak on the N7000 - ran perfectly fine for me, but everyone had random FCs and whatnot, and found it unstable.
It may take longer to re-install all your apps from the Market one-by-one, but you generally reap the rewards in stability after a fresh flash, especially jumping between Android versions.
Of course everyone's mileage may vary, and I know a lot of people swear by their backups
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2x this, only takes me 15 mins to reinstall apps. Paid/tried TB, don't care for it.
I flashed ics 4 times, every which way and still have the annoying TW crash. Tried other launcher and they are laggy, although, Nova seems to be the smoothest but still laggy.
I ended up just flashing back to stock GB. Hopefully, official ICS will be released soon.
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I have a white note and it is running ics fine. I even stored all my apps (around 160) from a GB ROM and no problems beside tethering not staying on.
Used my backup pro.
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I'm running a white model, with the 'official' ICS leak and Nova Launcher Prime.
For those of you experiencing the 'Unfortunately, TwLauncher has stopped' crash, try a factory data reset (not a re-flash). You will always ALWAYS get a crash on the first Tw launch after a fresh flash, however I got numerous crashes so affected a factory reset and cache wipe through CWM. This fixed it for me and I haven't had one (I'm back and forth between TW and Nova).
For those experiencing lag, especially in third-party Launchers, there is a thread in the Development section called 'build.prop tweaks'. Get yourself a root-enabled editor (Root Explorer works fine), and edit the build.prop file to include all the mentioned tweaks (the Dalvik VM heap-size ones already appear, so you can just edit them - add the others in manually to the end of the build.prop file, you can use a # on lines that you don't want the machine to read for comments).
As an aside, you may or may not see an improvement in battery life with the 'power collapse' settings. For those with poor battery life now, try it out for certain. For those with good battery life currently (mine's better than GB by a long shot), when I tried this I lost power considerably quicker. You can easily edit those two lines out if need be.
These have improved overall zip for me measurably, and especially in Nova. Also, changing the scroll animations in Nova will have a marked impact on the overall performance for you.

#2767#3855*
Solves every single problem.

White AT&T i717 model here, made in Korea (as opposed to China) - no problems to report.

Where do you find out if it's Korea or China?
NVM, found it under the battery, Korea Rev 3 here

Haptic feedback issues?
Hey ive got a white Note and i seem to have an issue (albeit small) where the vibration for the home soft key is delayed. Not a show stopper, but is pretty annoying. So could this be some sort of discrepancy between the internation Note's ICS build theyre also working on? (international has a hard home button, so i presume it wouldnt vibrate when pressed)
Anyway i was just wondering if anyone else had this problem?

I have that vibration thing too...but it doesn't annoy me. It kinda turns me on.
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I have a black note on Rogers. I tried both the collective and alpha 1 roms and had a weird phantom vibration thing happening randomly. I had restored apps but not data using Titanium Backup. I flashed alpha 2 but this time installed all apps straight from the market, no TB, and I haven't had any issues or force closes at all, not even the TW launcher.
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juzz86 said:
I generally find that restoring backups of apps and data leads to a lot of issues arising after a new flash, especially between a major version.
For the record I don't do backups, and haven't experienced any of the issues mentioned in other threads apart from poor signal. This was the same with the i9220 ICS leak on the N7000 - ran perfectly fine for me, but everyone had random FCs and whatnot, and found it unstable.
It may take longer to re-install all your apps from the Market one-by-one, but you generally reap the rewards in stability after a fresh flash, especially jumping between Android versions.
Of course everyone's mileage may vary, and I know a lot of people swear by their backups
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3x this. I've never done backups for any of my rooted, rom'ed Android tabs and phones. Have yet to see any issues aside from the general bugs everyone has with the ICS leak.
Google does basically everything I need in the cloud.

My Notes performance became unbearable. But I reinstalled the ICS leak and this time reinstalling my apps on an as needed basis. The result has been no lagging or fcs.
So that leads me to believe my issues have been application related. I will eventually find out which one but I have my suspicions.
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For those on Bell, Rogers or Telus that have lag and random buzzing, try disabling auto network time & auto timezone. Worked for me on Bell...
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CM9 Instability Question

I'm running the CM9 beta and while I really like the interface and smoothness of ICS, I get loads of random lockups and restarts. Is this typical? Is there any way around it? It seems as if some people are running this ROM without much trouble which makes me wonder why I'd be subject to a different experience.
any thoughts or suggestions? is there anything I can do increase stability?
thanks
If you're running a lot of media on it, say: pics, movies, web browsing with many pics or gifs to load they it can give it some trouble. Play around with it for a bit and see what it likes and what it doesn't. CM9 is really nice.
I have a thread addressing this issue. You may want to check it out.
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Fixed Permissions and that didn't seem to help anything. My phone could just be sitting on my desk and it will suddenly restart. only real widget I'm running is Beautiful Widgets weather/clock combo. Had been running Go Launcher, but disabled it to no effect. I'm somewhat at a loss as to what I can even try at this point.
I seemed to have more problems with it when I tried to supercharge. But when I was first trying to do it, it wasnt 100% supercharged. I figured out the right way of getting it fully supercharged and it ran smoother than ever. Still some lockups and reboots now and then but thats expected. Our ICS ROMs aren't perfect. I also found that flashing the ROM without wiping data sometimes made things worse. Now that I figured out how to do things right, every ICS ROM we have runs smooth. Other than the random reboots every now and then. Those wont go away.
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Fixed Permissions and that didn't seem to help anything. My phone could just be sitting on my desk and it will suddenly restart. only real widget I'm running is Beautiful Widgets weather/clock combo. Had been running Go Launcher, but disabled it to no effect. I'm somewhat at a loss as to what I can even try at this point.
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I been running paranoid android for 2 days now. Not one reset or real issue yet. I use fast reboot pro from play store though
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Another suggestion is to use system tuner to disable apps from starting up that do not need to be running. That's seems to have helped quite a bit.
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Just wanted to update this for others having some stability issues.
I wanted to flash the bluesleep fix. So I copied it to my phone, made a nandroid, and flashed it. While in the BSR I decided to flash the mashups.
reboot, major problems as you'd guess. read up on it, reflash CM9, things are ok, but I revert back to my nandroid just to be safe. then I flash the bluesleep fix.
now...super stable. a couple of random reboots but no where near as many. what fixed it, the bluesleep fix? just mucking with it? no idea. moral of the story may be to apply the blue sleep fix, or take a nandroid and then restore it. I have no idea, but now I'm really loving my CM9.
Paranoid android has the blue sleep fix and mash up as part of the rom
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just can't get a reliable Rom

please, somebody please help me get a useable phone again. I'm not sure if it's how I'm flashing, the roms I'm using, or if it's just what I have to deal with. things have sucked ever since the first jb Rom I've tried.
I've had the awful non-responsive home button issue across all roms. constant random reboots, and fcs constantly. messaging, email, system ui.. everything. battery barely gets me through work. a phone should not work like this, and this stuff didn't used to happen with ics.
I'm using twrp2 and I've tried many cm10 releases, PA, liquid smooth. some work well for a few hours, none of them have been good.
please help if you can.
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Jellybean or ICS?
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I've run several very good, stable ROMs. ICS: BlackStarVII, VIII, IX and X.
JB: Eclipse 2.0 and currently running CM10 Stable.
All of these run flawlessly for me. I flashed all with CMW.
There are plenty of stable roms out there. BlackStarX Is very stable. It is stock with the ability to tweak and customize. you would need to give more details of how your installing
swyped on my huge phone
For the home button issue, if you flash one of the "alternate" kernel's, it fix's the home button issue (or at least, it did for me).
As for a rom, I use FJ's JethroBubba w/o issue, have had 200hrs~ uptime on my phone and would have had longer if I wasnt such a flash-o-hollic and flashed the updates for it nearly the next day...
Its not for everyone, but its solid as a rock for me.
Setup
GNote-i717
TWRP-latest
FJ's-JethroBubba-11-11-2012
I am so ****ing fed up with this phone. please someone help me out... after loving it for months I'm so close to selling it. just problem after problem on any Rom I try. right now I can't even use my phone to make calls. it rings on the other end but there is silence on my end. I tried clearing phone data in apps, tried fixing permissions, rebooting several times. I've had this issue on each Rom on and off. right now on cm10.. forget the exact nightly but I think the one after stable.
I just don't understand. it has to be something I'm doing or not doing since everyone else is having luck getting reliability. could using cwm instead of twrp somehow make for a more reliable flash? what else could I possibly try? maybe someone could list exact steps of how they're flashing, and what they're using to do so. I would be so grateful.
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are you flashing them correctly?
Wipe data/cache/dalvik
using twrp2.. I factory reset, wipe data/cash, and dalvik. flash Rom. flash gapps. fix permissions. boot. it seems sometimes the Rom auto restores my apps. if not I restore apps with tibu.
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Your not restoring the data for apps on tibu are up? And jellybean for the note is a wip we do not have an official kernel source so its gonna be wonky sometimes. Some ROMs are better than others but they all fail every now and then jellybean ones anyways. Have u tried novena? Its a very nice and fast ICS ROM.
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maybe I'll try going back to ics. disappointing since jb had some nice features. I've tried restoring just apps and apps plus data. but I've also flashed roms where I didn't need tibu and still same issues. but so many people are claiming reliability on these jb roms. not sure if mine is different or they just have lower expectations
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Deep Breath....then pause, and think about this for a minute...
It is "VERY" likely that your problems are user related...(not to sound mean or insulting, because I do "NOT" intend to be..) But...
Roms coming to us are for the most part...clean. A factory build with mild tweaks, and certainly stable for every day use.
The problems come when users dont "clean" the device properly on a fresh flash, or they restore bits of previous rom data from non-compatible builds.
Now I make screw up's too, after nearly 10 years of android hacking. I'll forget a wipe function, or restore an app with TIBU that should "NOT" get put back without a clean app install.
Long story short, the roms here are solid in the ICS realm, and are very good in the JB side too....
I suggest Blackstar as a top pick, also the UCLF6 ICS build #5 from flappjaxxx....
Both are rock solid, and if you exhibit any problems beyond the normal android hickups, then it is likely a user/device issue, and not the rom itself....g
To follow Sarge, try a clean install of all apps from the market. Its a pain to reenter data, etc. but it sounds like you're already in pain.
Its really not that difficult. I will agree that some roms are more stable than others. Most of the JB roms do have some random issues. Here is the thing though. When you start flashing custom roms, you need to accept that you might encounter minor issues. If you are not willing to live with those issues or find work arounds, then you need to flash back to stock and be happy.
Keep in mind that devs have source code to work with ICS roms. Since Samsung hasn't dropped JellyBean source for this device, the current builds are all based on the google opensource code, without many of the device specific drivers.
Others have mentioned and I agree 100%, reinstall all of your user apps out of the play store. I don't trust any of the app backups from TiBU or any other tool. I also do a complete wipe and format everything between roms. You have to have some level of patience to dabble in the custom rom world, and it sounds like you might be missing that. See what you got after an initial install, don't overclock or change any performance settings...Install just the basic apps, from the play store and see how things work for a day or so. If things seem smooth, then add some more apps. Many people try and do too much at one time, which make isolating the problem nearly impossible.
ok, right now I'm on novena... I really hate ics after using jb, but it appears to be quite good so far at least. been on it for a few days and not really any issues. this time I also installed using cwm instead of twrp. apps were restored automatically with play store. sometimes that doesn't happen.. is there any way to install through play store if it doesn't do it automatically?
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Try, AOPK Quincyatt jb milestone 1
this had been my daily driver since it came out. There are roms for lots of devices.
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Try, AOPK Quincyatt jb milestone 1
this had been my daily driver since it came out. There are roms for lots of devices.
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Agree on the AOKP......smoother and more stable than any ICS I have ever used.:thumbup:
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I went from stock virgin mobile unrooted to this phone using Padawan.
Haven't tried any other Roms but don't really have any desire to. Padawan 6.2 hasn't failed me yet. I have read too much about jellybean roms to want to try one.
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Been using ICS BlackStar X as my daily driver without any problems and great battery life.

Has anyone found a jb Rom for the I717 that doesn't suffer from random reboots?

Please mods, don't delete. This is not meant to be any sort of competition thread. I'm simply inquiring if users that have had random reboot problems with jb Roms ever found one that doesn't suffer from this problem.
I have tried King Kang, PACman, and the official CM10 nightlies, and all have typically had about 1 a day. I always do clean installs for these Roms and restore apps with titanium backup without data.
I have been using CM10 Stable for roughly 3 days, and I have not witnessed any reboots. ROM is great. I am still playing with it, but all is good!
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Please mods, don't delete. This is not meant to be any sort of competition thread. I'm simply inquiring if users that have had random reboot problems with jb Roms ever found one that doesn't suffer from this problem.
I have tried King Kang, PACman, and the official CM10 nightlies, and all have typically had about 1 a day. I always do clean installs for these Roms and restore apps with titanium backup without data.
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No, not I...and
I have tried various JB ROMs and all have the reboot problem, some worse than others. I also have tried in combination with KKO.12's and Flapjack's kernels. I have come back to the CM10 Nightlies and using the KKO.12 kernel. I have the random reboot problem and it is redictable if I attempt to get thgrough the lockscreen just after rebooting and just getting to the Trebuchet home screen. I need to give it time to go through the full startup. The other reboot occurance is when I try to access more than app at a time while the first app is thinking or processing. When these reboots occur I often get a reboot with the CM10 circle long spinning out of focus and very pixelated before it finally gets to Trebuchet Launcher (have tried other launchers also). I occasionally come up with no APNs (as in blank), however, a further reboot usually fixes that. I did a completre wipe several months ago but still have the issues. I fear that unique interaction with my loaded apps and folders in SD card also are at the source of my issues. Frankly, I am checking daily and counting down the days until i717 CM10.1/JB4.2 comes out in the hopes that it makes my Note a bit more stable. After I try that if I still have the problems, I will go through another painful wipe data resetting and app reloading to see if it cleans it up more or even totally.
Yes, 12/28 cm10. No reboots at all in 60 hrs. Running it with FJ's kernel and tuned with System Tuner.
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Certain things (I suspect the graphics drivers) make CM10 and its derivative ROMs more likely to reboot.
I'm on the cm10 1/03 nightly and I got a couple of spontaneous reboots. Clean install from a full wipe of course.
I'd guess that it'll likely be when official JB becomes available that they'll be able to fix some issues.
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Certain things (I suspect the graphics drivers) make CM10 and its derivative ROMs more likely to reboot.
I'm on the cm10 1/03 nightly and I got a couple of spontaneous reboots. Clean install from a full wipe of course.
I'd guess that it'll likely be when official JB becomes available that they'll be able to fix some issues.
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Did you see my post above yours? Try 12/28
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I haven't had any reboots or other problems on any of the cm10 nightlies since mid December.
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I was on 12/28 for a few days had reboots the same as any other ROM for i717. Something we all just gotta deal with. I had really good luck with slim ROM or whatever it is called for days. Then it started doing the same as the rest, ended up settling back where I started with paranoid android with one or two reboots a day *not complaining*
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A really easy way to force a reboot for me it seems it to start recording video. After a some minutes, it reboots.
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The Nightlies were having issues back around Christmas with flickering & reboots. I heard the kinks have all been worked out now. I'll know more about them Tues.

[Q] running slow hard to get text to come on

thunderbolt started slowing down a while ago now really slow got to hit text button 3 or 4 times before it will go to text messages ? help
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thunderbolt started slowing down a while ago now really slow got to hit text button 3 or 4 times before it will go to text messages ? help
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There are a lot of factors that may come into play with such things.
For starters, more information on what you are running on your device would be useful in trying to assist you with your issue.
What rom you are running? When was your last "clean" wipe and install?
Have you restored a bunch of stuff(especially texts) on your current rom from a previous install or rom?
Typically, if you have done a full wipe, a clean install, and have not restored a bunch of apps and data, you would not run into this type of problem.
It's usually when users go restoring a bunch of things, that texting takes a big hit and lags down real bad.
As stated, especially when you have restored a bunch of text messages.
Well, with the little information you gave, I hope that something I have said will be helpful.
If not, maybe provide more details so that a more specific solution can be considered.
I hate to semi-hijack the thread but I didn't want to make a new topic on a similar issue. I tried changing over to a new ROM a couple of months ago from my old Gingerbread one I used to have and since then I've gone through 3-4 Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs (the de-odexed one from this site as well as a couple from Santod on InfectedROM) and I've been having performance issues. I've mainly been used to AOSP ROMs and mainly wanted to change because I was having constant volume issues on that old one I was using. Since I've changed over to ICS Sense the volume is soo much better (the new radios I guess). I was wondering if there were any good AOSP ROMs I could try out based on Ice Cream Sandwich. I really wish I could get these new ones to work but it's just so laggy and slow I can't handle it. I am following all the instructions and clearing out everything between flashes and only restoring missing apps with data in Titanium Backup but the problems persist. Any ideas?
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I hate to semi-hijack the thread but I didn't want to make a new topic on a similar issue. I tried changing over to a new ROM a couple of months ago from my old Gingerbread one I used to have and since then I've gone through 3-4 Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs (the de-odexed one from this site as well as a couple from Santod on InfectedROM) and I've been having performance issues. I've mainly been used to AOSP ROMs and mainly wanted to change because I was having constant volume issues on that old one I was using. Since I've changed over to ICS Sense the volume is soo much better (the new radios I guess). I was wondering if there were any good AOSP ROMs I could try out based on Ice Cream Sandwich. I really wish I could get these new ones to work but it's just so laggy and slow I can't handle it. I am following all the instructions and clearing out everything between flashes and only restoring missing apps with data in Titanium Backup but the problems persist. Any ideas?
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Biggest cause of lag, restoring apps and data, honestly.
As far as Aosp, have you tried my UnSenseROM Jelato?
It's about as DeSensed as a Sense rom gets, more or less and I do not get any complaints about lag from it.
I am a bit of an app hoarder, the last restore was around 130 apps, though that includes random ones that might come with a ROM. I have been testing browsers lately as that seems to be a big problem I'm having. Nearly every single browser out there seems to take at least 5-10 seconds when first opening to load up except Dolphin Mini. And that one won't fully load a page unless I change tabs and then when I swap tabs back it'll be loaded...very weird issue there.
Anyway, I was under the impression that Jelato ROM wasn't finished so I hadn't tried it so it was next on my list. I appreciate you not giving up on the old Tbolt
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I am a bit of an app hoarder, the last restore was around 130 apps, though that includes random ones that might come with a ROM. I have been testing browsers lately as that seems to be a big problem I'm having. Nearly every single browser out there seems to take at least 5-10 seconds when first opening to load up except Dolphin Mini. And that one won't fully load a page unless I change tabs and then when I swap tabs back it'll be loaded...very weird issue there.
Anyway, I was under the impression that Jelato ROM wasn't finished so I hadn't tried it so it was next on my list. I appreciate you not giving up on the old Tbolt
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No problem.
It is done for now, there's always updates to come though.
I have also posted up 2 other Desensed roms of which may or may not interest you.
One is Miui Inspired and the other being Sony Xperia inspired.
In all, there are 7 custom roms to choose from, as well as the 4 stock roms.
Hmm, I haven't heard of MIUI before, I'll have to read up on it. Definitely looks interesting though from a couple pictures I saw.

AT&T Stock JB 4.1.2 - Slow, lagging, pros and cons

Moving back from a CM 10.1 based rom to stock once the new JB update was released by At&t, I knew there would be a slight sacrifice in speed when going back to the TouchWiz UI. I was willing to take that small hit to get the s-pen and other stuff back. I have noticed a few things about this update and I am on the fence as far as whether or not to stick with it or go back to a CM 10.1 based or other ROM:
Pros:
* The Nature UI on TouchWiz is pretty. The slight drop shadows under app icons and some widgets is nice.
* I like the S-Pen stuff, though to be honest, I don't use it all that often.
* The sound quality seems to be improved on this update. Not sure why, but everything sounds better - music, calls, notifications.
* This stock ROM seems to handle the screen colors better. There is less of that annoying AMOLED color banding effect that drives me nuts on most other ROMs (I am a web and graphics designer, so these aesthetic things bother me).
* Signal Quality - It seems the signal is stronger and I do like knowing the difference between a regular 4g and an LTE signal. It seems the modem firmware is also better (which I installed along with this update) and quicker at locking on to a data connection.
Cons:
* TouchWiz UI is really quite out of date when you consider all the advancements Google has made to Android since version 4.1 as far as grouping of icons, project butter etc. It seems that not much has improved overall on Samsung's TouchWiz since the previous update.
* My phone really lags as far as overall performance. Some of this is most likely due to TouchWiz, but opening apps, going to task manager and other processes is painfully slow and annoying. Forget trying to open the camera app in a pinch when you want to shoot a candid. By the time the camera is ready to shoot, the moment is gone.
* The leds under the menu buttons are not used for notifications - It seems silly to me that Samsung or At&t would not take advantage of this functionality that most third party ROMs do. If my phone is in a separate room on vibrate or mute and I receive a text or call, I will not know this until I actually pick up the phone and turn on the display. That is silly.
* Battery Life - sucks period. This seems worse with the update.
I guess what I am trying to do here is find a reason to stick with this update and perhaps make improvements based on others opinions here. I think the most important issue would be improving the speed/responsiveness of the system overall.
I have been following some of the other offerings available as far as third party ROMs based off the official Samsung/AT&T 4.1.2 version. Padawan is one such ROM which had quite a bit of attention in the forum.
There are some solutions which others have reported which make noticeable speed improvements in general:
* Deodexing - I think this is possible on a rooted device with a stock ROM, but most just install a ROM which is already deodexed. I wonder how much improvement in performance is noted after this is done.
* Debloating - Removing unnecessary apps that the carrier has decided to include to increase value to the customer. I am not sure what improvement in performance this really offers as to affect performance negatively, these apps would need to be running in the background all the time, right?
* Go with a vanilla generic Android ROM which does not have the TouchWiz UI over it, such as something CM based. As nice as the speed improvements are in doing that, I still would love to keep my s-pen sensitivity and features on the odd occasions when I do use the s-pen.
Anyhow, enough of my long winded post. I am just really curious as to what others think.
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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Thanks for your response. It was already rooted, running TWRP. As far as debloating, so would I use Titanium Backup to freeze or remove the at&t specific apps? Also which At&T bloatware causes the most issues in terms of performance lag? There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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There may actually be one or two of those apps whose hit on performance is outweighed by their usefulness...
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Well, then that's totally subjective. What I usually do is I freeze such apps. If you do really need them, you'll miss them. Then that's the indication you should unfreeze them.
I'm amazed at how hit-and-miss people's reviews of stock 4.1.2 are. I'm running true stock - in that I'm using the odin package - and it's the fastest, and by far the most stable, JB ROM I've ever used on my Note -- and I've run the gauntlet with them. I simply used ES File Explorer to delete everything that at all looked like something from AT&T, and then I went into my running applications/services, and anything that I did not use, or thought I didn't use, I went into Titanium and froze. Now I'm always at ~300mb of free RAM and my battery rivals anything I've experienced -- even a drastically underclocked and volted ICS kernel.
I did, however, accidentally delete my calculator in the process. I get a little aggressive with my cleaning of things. On the bright side, I found a CM calculator port on the market which is prettier and gets the job done.
I am running a stock rooted Rogers JB 4.1.2. It is by far faster, smoother, and better battery than the ICS counterpart. If I turned off Location services the battery would even be better.
I believe the problems most are experiencing is from dirty flashing. Format that USB storage and wipe the data before installing the ROM. I know from experience. I installed using odin without wiping or formatting anything. Yes I kept all my apps and info but what I was left with was a laggy and battery hungry phone.
I understand that the Quadrant test doesn't mirror real life but on my phone I constantly achieve higher test scores with stock 4.1.2 than with cm 10.1 or cm10.0.
Not saying I like it better or worse but I don't think speed is that bad on stock 4.1.2
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Android Newbie ... Rooting i717 with stock JB?
SKyRocKeting727 said:
Root, debloat it, run Nova or Apex launcher, flash OC kernel. Voila!
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I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
olliesshop said:
I've been searching for a while, but obviously not good enough.
I've never rooted an Android phone and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to root my AT&T JB updated i717 and replace it with the stock Android JB. I've had numerous problems with the stock AT&T JB (mainly Talkback launches on it's own, Wifi doesn't connect, Battery life sucks).
Thanks, in advance for any help and sorry for being a relative Newbie and asking what is an obvious question to most of you.
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I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I suggest to do a full wipe data and cache. But be sure to backup your personal files as they Will be deleted. Try looking at how root videos on youtube to get an idea how to root. Heres one for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpi8yCYJOt8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Thank you !!! I've been watching a lot of them, but they don't seems to be exactly right. I really appreciate the feedback and help !!!
The thing I don't like about using any other ROMs, is that the "Auto Screen Tone Adjust" setting is not in any of them, and the screen automatically dims on white backgrounds and I don't like that. Is there a way to fix that or add the setting in another ROM?

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