question about GB bootloader - Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

when you flash to stock GB (EH09, i believe [2.3.5]) do you have the gb bootloader or not?
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Nope, you need to flash it separately. Its floating around here somewhere.
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mezster said:
Nope, you need to flash it separately. Its floating around here somewhere.
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okay, i definitely flashed it, i wonder if i can flash kernels now separately for GB without bricking my phone
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ztotherad said:
okay, i definitely flashed it, i wonder if i can flash kernels now separately for GB without bricking my phone
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makes absolutely no difference unless your flashing the glitch kernel...even then all it does is allow the glitch splash screen on boot to function.

droidstyle said:
makes absolutely no difference unless your flashing the glitch kernel...even then all it does is allow the glitch splash screen on boot to function.
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yeah, but I was having problems w flashing kernels before I flashed the GB bootloader

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droidstyle said:
makes absolutely no difference unless your flashing the glitch kernel...even then all it does is allow the glitch splash screen on boot to function.
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Actually it has been advised in glitch thread, seems there are other features that depend on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25881103
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mezster said:
Actually it has been advised in glitch thread, seems there are other features that depend on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25881103
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yes i read that, but have you tried both bootloaders with that skunkworks kernel and seen any difference? i currently am using gb bootloaders but all im saying is I dont see a difference and it shouldnt have anything to do with having problems flashing kerns. jt1134 said along time ago that gb bootloaders do nothing more than froyo variants.

droidstyle said:
yes i read that, but have you tried both bootloaders with that skunkworks kernel and seen any difference? i currently am using gb bootloaders but all im saying is I dont see a difference and it shouldnt have anything to do with having problems flashing kerns. jt1134 said along time ago that gb bootloaders do nothing more than froyo variants.
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I hear ya, and I too know jt's take on the subject but when the glitch guys say to flash them or don't bother posting bugs I gotta heed their advice. And no I haven't tried skunk yet but back around m4 I ran without gb bootloaders and all was fine. I'm still on b31 ha! Just been too lazy (and satisfied) to move forward, but I probably will now to check out the new hybrid UI.
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From AMEND to EDIFY?

So, I'm about to do this, but, am scared of change as I'm sure many are in some way. What will I lose versus gain?
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Grimis said:
So, I'm about to do this, but, am scared of change as I'm sure many are in some way. What will I lose versus gain?
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you personally will not be affected by the the switch...its those who make roms/kernels/themes/mods that are
The only negative you will see is that certain ROMs may not be installable with certain CWM versions.
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you personally will not be affected by the the switch...its those who make roms/kernels/themes/mods that are
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So, staying with CWM 2.5xx is okay and I don't need to odin or flash CWM3, right? Because 2.5xx flashes both amend and edify?
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Grimis said:
So, staying with CWM 2.5xx is okay and I don't need to odin or flash CWM3, right? Because 2.5xx flashes both amend and edify?
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yes....but........
some edify scripts dont seem to flash properly (or at all) with cwr 2.5
nitsuj17 said:
yes....but........
some edify scripts dont seem to flash properly (or at all) with cwr 2.5
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I guess I'll wait another week or so then. I guess lol. Thanks for the help. Loving the community rom!
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2nd chance with my new photon..any battery tip threads?

Great phone but it is thirsty for battery..
Are theyre any threads or tricks tips to lengthen the life ..I have had many phones and found mods that work except for the photon!!!
I am rooted thats it but bootloader is still locked! Possibly a kernel flash? Or rom?
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lojak29 said:
Great phone but it is thirsty for battery..
Are theyre any threads or tricks tips to lengthen the life ..I have had many phones and found mods that work except for the photon!!!
I am rooted thats it but bootloader is still locked! Possibly a kernel flash? Or rom?
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I know stock Is really good on battery get an app to see what's killing your battery
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lojak29 said:
Great phone but it is thirsty for battery..
Are theyre any threads or tricks tips to lengthen the life ..I have had many phones and found mods that work except for the photon!!!
I am rooted thats it but bootloader is still locked! Possibly a kernel flash? Or rom?
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You can install joker kernel and undervolt as well as putting profiles thru setcpu. Lower screen brightness all the way down. Just a few if the top of my head.
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Can i flash roms and kernels with only being rooted? Or do i need to unlock?
And whats being used on photon?
Does rom manager have cwm built in or does photon require a flashable cwm or bootstrap?
Seems everything is not as easy as was on the evo.
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lojak29 said:
Can i flash roms and kernels with only being rooted? Or do i need to unlock?
And whats being used on photon?
Does rom manager have cwm built in or does photon require a flashable cwm or bootstrap?
Seems everything is not as easy as was on the evo.
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He has both options locked and unlocked and I don't think ron manager works for the photon
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What do u mean by both version?
Links to locked version i dont think im gonna unlock but id like to try a new kernel compatible to stock rom
Im hearing rsd flash fails for almost everyone that tries and ends up bricking
If rsd flash method was 100% safe id try it.
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lojak29 said:
Links to locked version i dont think im gonna unlock but id like to try a new kernel compatible to stock rom
Im hearing rsd flash fails for almost everyone that tries and ends up bricking
If rsd flash method was 100% safe id try it.
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Custom kernel REQUIRES unlock
First time I've heard of it consistently bricking phones and I rsd flash BOTH my mophos a couple times a week. Even when rsd says "fail" I've never had an issue when doing it properly (factory reset from settings/wipe from recovery/rsd flash).

Rom Manager?

Can we use it? I'm a bit confused about this.
The latest I've heard is still no. I'm not sure why though.
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Seems to work well on cm7 and miui but cause wierd **** on samsung based roms.
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gunnyman said:
Can we use it? I'm a bit confused about this.
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You can use it with cm7, but not with stock based roms. I'm not sure about hellraised i9100 roms.
Nice to see you here. You have SGS II now?
creepyncrawly said:
You can use it with cm7, but not with stock based roms. I'm not sure about hellraised i9100 roms.
Nice to see you here. You have SGS II now?
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Yep after trying the atrix 2.
I'm a bit confused at how to flash an alternate ROM without being able to use CWM on the stock rooted ROM
micjenks said:
I'm a bit confused at how to flash an alternate ROM without being able to use CWM on the stock rooted ROM
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boot to recovery and flash? what do you mean you cant use CWM on stock rooted rom?
Rom manager is not needed for cwm. It just makes things slightly easier.
Flash a kernel that has cwm and boot into it by the command 'adb reboot recovery', three button hold, or even the 14 toggle mod reboot button. And flash away.
Rom manager doesn't equal cwm. It's just one of the things it can do. But right now it's not 100% ready for our phones.
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I've been using it on my cappy, and now with my Sgs2, no issues. But I'm a compulsive updater and obsessed with living on the edge.
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Majority of other phones it does work 100%.
And it does work with our phones. Just not 100%. If used enough there will be a time that it messes up (primarily with stock based roms). Hopefully in the near future the bugs will be worked out so that it is 100% with our phones.
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Thanks for the info
Hey Gunnyman, good to see ya here.
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IMO..With the devs putting the extended power menu in the roms which allows you to reboot to recovery It makes life easier to get to cwm..I forgot all about ROM MANAGER a long time ago....
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robmoney215 said:
IMO..With the devs putting the extended power menu in the roms which allows you to reboot to recovery It makes life easier to get to cwm..I forgot all about ROM MANAGER a long time ago....
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+1
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Reverting back to GB from ICS

To the people wondering about going back to GB after flashing ICS it works fine. I restored a nandroid backup and everything works just fine.
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Thanks,
This is definitely good to know!
can we make a nandroid of ICS and revert back to that?
Is it safe from design gears and dagr8? Just wondering because one says it doesn't change basebands and the other i haven't found where it mentions it
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Is it safe from design gears and dagr8? Just wondering because one says it doesn't change basebands and the other i haven't found where it mentions it
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we'll find out in a second. Im reverting to GB from DesignGears.
*crosses fingers*
s1mpd1ddy said:
we'll find out in a second. Im reverting to GB from DesignGears.
*crosses fingers*
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thanks for the effort but dont do that.
after some reading, designgears .exe leak changes everything INCLUDING flashing ics bootloaders. if you read dag8s op he uses gingerbread bootloaders with ics on top to allow you to restore back to a gingerbread backup seamlessly.
Otherwise you will have to manually flash gb bootloaders
powdered_donuts said:
thanks for the effort but dont do that.
after some reading, designgears .exe leak changes everything INCLUDING flashing ics bootloaders. if you read dag8s op he uses gingerbread bootloaders with ics on top to allow you to restore back to a gingerbread backup seamlessly.
Otherwise you will have to manually flash gb bootloaders
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It worked though. I'm back on the "Unofficial" with GB. I'll post any updates if I have any problems but it seems like its good
s1mpd1ddy said:
It worked though. I'm back on the "Unofficial" with GB. I'll post any updates if I have any problems but it seems like its good
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Thats awesome! I just would have felt bad if your next post was about a brick and i didnt speak up lol. Good to know, im sure there is at least one dev looking into the bootloaders and stuff im sure we will know why soon enough.
Thanks this is good info right here.
Yeah you can nandroid ics and restore from gb. The different baseband doesn't seem to have any effect on gb.
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If you are going back from ics to gb you loose your modem, the ics modem stays, well did on my tells note
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pterry30 said:
If you are going back from ics to gb you loose your modem, the ics modem stays, well did on my tells note
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Worked fine for me.
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My nandroid of GB was wiped in the transition using the EXE to ICS. Now that I'm a dumbass, how do I get back to Gingerbread?
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oxeneers said:
My nandroid of GB was wiped in the transition using the EXE to ICS. Now that I'm a dumbass, how do I get back to Gingerbread?
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my guess is downloading the ODIN version of the stock gingerbread, and then flashing it through ODIN.
I take no responsibility if you brick your device though.
s1mpd1ddy said:
my guess is downloading the ODIN version of the stock gingerbread, and then flashing it through ODIN.
I take no responsibility if you brick your device though.
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So, were you able to go back to GB? I don't like this leaked ICS, very slow, tried all of the above launcher. I need to revert to.
oxeneers said:
My nandroid of GB was wiped in the transition using the EXE to ICS. Now that I'm a dumbass, how do I get back to Gingerbread?
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It's good to keep your backups on the external sd
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I flashed the exe and can't go back even in Odin and I used 3 different PCs it get stuck at the system flash the only thing I can flash are recovery img nothing I do works
This has been bugging me for a while, what's GB?
id_mew said:
This has been bugging me for a while, what's GB?
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Gingerbread?
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id_mew said:
This has been bugging me for a while, what's GB?
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Gingerbread

How do you check which bootloader you have?

I assume there are only two right now correct? How do you check which version you have?
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sdc177 said:
I assume there are only two right now correct? How do you check which version you have?
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Was this a really dumb question or nobody knows?
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It's pretty much a matter of knowing what you flash before you flash it. If you've never flashed ICS, you're on GB bootloaders. If you flashed ICS you have ICS bootloaders. What does it matter anyways?
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What i have read when you flash ics, does not change your bootloader, i have had no problems going back to gb
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welchertc said:
It's pretty much a matter of knowing what you flash before you flash it. If you've never flashed ICS, you're on GB bootloaders. If you flashed ICS you have ICS bootloaders. What does it matter anyways?
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You are wrong.
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Not entirely... Flashing ics in a cwm zip does not flash boots. At all.
And the boots in the Odin flash dint seem to be any different than the gingerbread ones.
It's not like on some previous Samsung devices jumping from Froyo to gingerbread, where you HAD to upgrade boots or recovery was inaccessible
Oops. My bad. I thought I had read that the ICS Odin did change them. Sorry all.
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I'm pretty sure that Odin the first leak changed the bootloader, but the cwm version did not, so the people who jumped the gun with the initial leak had to revert to stock and redo the cwm and root process before flashing the cwm leak. This scenario caused most of the confusion a are still experiencing with all these different suggestions for the so called proper wiping procedure. You'll notice several different formats stemming from the initial Odin/exe vs cwm versions. Some people say"I had to do this x amount of times" and others say"I had to do this z amount of times in this order"... I have literally read almost every single post in this forum(general,Q&A,accessories,Dev, not so much themes) in preparation to mod my note without fail. In my opinion, people are being very lazy about the amount of research they should be doing before modding their phone. This lack of initiative causes confusion and repetitive Q&A's.
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