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I was thinking about doing a factory data reset on my atrix thats rooted with gingerblur. i was just wondering if it was safe to do? thanks for the help
Yes it is safe to do you wont lose root atleast I didn't
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thanks alot. i don't even care about loosing root. so if it happens oh well haha
did you have success with this? im in the same boat
Factory reset is completely safe guys. It just removes all your apps and user data, no way you can brick with it.
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no way you can brick with it.
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Sounds like a challenge to me!
You know now you have said that someone will post a thread saying they bricked doing a factory reset! LOL
I can't answer your question, but the thread title reminded me of this famous scene.
Just don't delete your home app... I did and couldn't get past the motoblur setup
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I have a small echo-like noise now that I hear during phone calls on my phone. I think it is a hardware issue because I don't hear it on my bluetooth headset. I called Verizon 800 number the other night because I was wondering about the 4G outage and mentioned my audio problem while I was on the phone with her. She said if I call back from another phone, tech support would connect to my Thunderbolt and troubleshoot the audio problem, and if its unfixable they would send me another Thunderbolt.
I am wondering if I need to unroot before I do this....would tech support be able to tell if my phone was rooted and thus void the warranty and not be able to do anything for me? What should I do?
Bare minimum I'd install the stock rom on there, I don't believe they would dig far enough to see if fastboot is unlocked.
As for the title question Yes, they can tell if rooted.
I don't think they can tell Cuz I called yesterday Cuz my screen is messing up they called me back on another line and wanted me to do a factory reset but didn't know that I was already on GB
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As for the title question Yes, they can tell if rooted.
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Tell us how
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Tell us how
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The only thing I can think of, and I'm no expert or anything so this is just a guess, is that they could look at the software version of the phone, and if it isn't the latest, or a previous release for this phone, then they could speculate that you are rooted, though I don't think that alone would hold up in court if it ever came to that.
When the support rep told the OP that they would "connect to my Thunderbolt and troubleshoot the audio problem", I think they were going by the standard "don't call tech support from the phone that's having the issue" practice.
Can they remotely connect to our phones ? I wasn't aware that they could.
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As for the title question Yes, they can tell if rooted.
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Over the phone? Absolutely Not
Correct, that's what they said ("don't call tech support from the phone that's having the issue" practice.)
So should I still unroot to be safe before I call them or no....
What ROM are you using ?
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If you want to be on the safe side, make a nand backup, flash a stock ROM, call them, then restore the backup. I'll pretty sure they can't tell if you have a custom recovery.
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Don't know how they do it, (simple user here) and not the first time I've seen this asked or answered. If you're bored jump on every TB forum your on and I'm sure you'll find your curiosity satisfied. Maybe it was on BAMF? I could care less how they do it. (No ins here) Call technical support and ask them what rom your on and how dare they know that.
via my mind while guzzling beer.
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Over the phone? Absolutely Not
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On the device in question, yes, why not... again I don't care and was just offering what I've read.
via my mind while guzzling beer.
I'm on many forums similar to this, including Team Bamf, rootzwiki, etc and haven't read anything like this.
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What ROM are you using ?
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Liquid AOSP 3.2.
I unrooted just to be safe and the tech rep never said anything and I got them to send me a new sim card and if that doesn't solve my problem (which I don't think it will), then they will send me a new thunderbolt.
When I rooted again after the phone call it wouldn't let me restore my rom and I got stuck in a boot loop. Luckily I had rom zip's on my sd card, so I installed one from scratch, reflashed cwm via rom mgr again, then it let me restore it.
Very weird, and I was terrified I jacked my phone up.
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I'm on many forums similar to this, including Team Bamf, rootzwiki, etc and haven't read anything like this.
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Hmm keep looking, I won't be at a pc till tomorrow maybe. But like I said I have no way to confirm only what I've read which is what I do. And that was second hand information. As most of this is. I'm really trying to remember because I know these site searching's are lacking at best.
I just recently used to work for at&t customer care and if vzw is anything like them, the only way they can maybe tell is if you have an unlimited data plan plus unofficial tethering app. Or if you send it in for warranty/Asurion replacement. Otherwise i don't really see how they could see in any way if it was rooted
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I just recently used to work for at&t customer care and if vzw is anything like them, the only way they can maybe tell is if you have an unlimited data plan plus unofficial tethering app. Or if you send it in for warranty/Asurion replacement. Otherwise i don't really see how they could see in any way if it was rooted
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That is understandable, thank you. Still gotta get to my pc. I know people have called in on their rooted devices for certain reasons and been called out only to deny. And of course unroot before going in. For whatever reason. Sticking to it.
That's why I asked what ROM. A support rep could simply tell the person to read them a version # that will be different than "stock".
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That's why I asked what ROM. A support rep could simply tell the person to read them a version # that will be different than "stock".
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this is true, didn't think about that. You could always just write the stock version number before flashing to be safe
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Okay for the last two days I haven't been able to connect to google wallet or add a google card. I rooted my phone and I see the unsupported devices showing. Tried to add and failed stuck on initializing . I called google wallet they told me there is an issue on there end and it will be fixed wait a couple of days. So today there was an update. I did the update tried again. Didn't work. So I cleared the data and reset the setting in google wallet. Same issue. Then I thought maybe if I unroot and try it maybe it will work. Well in the #SU app u can hide the root so the phone thinks its unrooted. Under enable root . Uncheck it to disable it. Reset and cleared data google wallet. Tried it and it works. Well I'm probably late about this. But I figured I let I guys know maybe it will help someone. Thanks for reading. If it did then hit that thanks. Peace.
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mine too worked even without messing with SU. Ran the update and it finally initialized.
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mine too worked even without messing with SU. Ran the update and it finally initialized.
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but it's still stuck on activating account....
Yes sir I can't wait to try this tomorrow morning.
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Thanks! This is exactly what I needed.
PS thanks for also describing how to do the temporary unroot by disabling SuperSU in the settings. I was looking everywhere in the app for something that said temp unroot, didn't realize it was as simple as unticking the Enable Superuser box.
Still didnt work for me. It stays stuck on Activation..
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Thanks! This is exactly what I needed.
PS thanks for also describing how to do the temporary unroot by disabling SuperSU in the settings. I was looking everywhere in the app for something that said temp unroot, didn't realize it was as simple as unticking the Enable Superuser box.
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No problem at least it works for some.
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I'm another person this does not work for
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I tried all the steps ,but I don't know if it worked. I unrooted, reset. When I select wallet it tells me my password has changed so I have to re-enter password. Then I get an error adding pre-paid google card.( but it no longer says "un-supported device). I called the money network and they said they were having a problem with EVO let's and that they were working on it. I think I'm going to exchange this one anyway.
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but it's still stuck on activating account....
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Same here Pinks, I am not sure what happened. I havn't been able to get past this all day. Has anyone spoken to them about this issue.
Will
they have the evo activation service shut down to try and fix the problems we are having.. so no matter what until they turn them back on you cant activate your account.
The way I did this is if your rooted disable Su. In the Su app. Then go into google wallet reset app in settings. Exit. Then go to applications in settings then go to all on right. Find wallet. Then clear data. Back over to wallet activate again. Setup password. Try to activate prepaid card again. Make sure you take the update in the play store if you didn't before doing any of this. Let me know.
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butterbuns said:
they have the evo activation service shut down to try and fix the problems we are having.. so no matter what until they turn them back on you cant activate your account.
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Where did you find this out?
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Where did you find this out?
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i called google wallet tuesday.. but its also in the 50 other google wallet threads around here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675353
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689898
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674785&highlight=wallet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689898&
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690840
I doubt that this is a possible fix. I unrooted and am still stuck initializing. After installing the Wallet update last night I'm still stuck. I called g wallet customer service again and they said that the update will fix it for some, but they are not finished with all of the maintenence on their servers. Until then (they will email me), G wallet will still be broken for some. I think that this possible fix is just a coincidence.
Thanks for the heads up though.
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I doubt that this is a possible fix. I unrooted and am still stuck initializing. After installing the Wallet update last night I'm still stuck. I called g wallet customer service again and they said that the update will fix it for some, but they are not finished with all of the maintenence on their servers. Until then (they will email me), G wallet will still be broken for some. I think that this possible fix is just a coincidence.
Thanks for the heads up though.
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Well sorry to hear yours isn't working. It may very well be a coincidence but it wasn't working until I did this. That's why the tread is called a possible fix. Anyway. My work hear is done. Hey admin close this tread. Thanks. Foodstampbaby out...
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Query: does this problem only affect those who rooted before using Google Wallet on the stock ROM?
I want to root but I am afraid of losing this functionality. My Wallet works on my stock ROM un-rooted, obviously.
It has nothing to do with being rooted or not... They have turned off the service for new phones to fix the problems.. so if youarent already active.. your probablyout.of luck.
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aimbdd said:
It has nothing to do with being rooted or not... They have turned off the service for new phones to fix the problems.. so if youarent already active.. your probablyout.of luck.
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My account is currently active, however if I clear the Wallet settings in order to root (sticky PSA thread), and then after rooting go back into my account, would it work?
Thanks!
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My account is currently active, however if I clear the Wallet settings in order to root (sticky PSA thread), and then after rooting go back into my account, would it work?
Thanks!
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once google wallet has their services back up and running yes.. But right this min no you will get a error trying to add your card.
Hey guys i just wanted to let everyone (or anyone that looks here that didnt know already) know that if you get the new OTA or do what i did and get a rom with it (I just flashed Flex's stock with gooodies rom with the new OTA) it fixes Google Wallet if you had bricked it like i did.
So if you forgot to clear google wallet settings before flashing a rom and you bricked flashing a rom with the new ota it restores wallet and it works fine.
I did have to do a reboot for the prepaid card to work and put my 10$ in but its all good again :laugh:
And if im posting this and its old news then my bad, i did a search and i couldnt find anything on this, and if this is old news then can a mod please delete?
Thanks :good:
Thanks for sharing. So you you had secure element failed and don't anymore after updating to a ROM with 1.22 base? Did you update the hboot, too, or just ROM (I personally never update hboots) ?
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No way i was already rooted running Flex's ROM so no way i would have updated my hboot i just flashed a rom with the OTA on it
and yeah before hand i had the secure element bricked and after the new ota google wallet works which is fantastic
So maybe we won't have to clear it every time we flash now? That's the one thing that has kept me from really using Wallet . I'm afraid I'm going to forget and brick the NFC. I set it up and just reset it the next day.
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that im not sure on ...im looking at this as more of a second chance for me rather than a complete work around...i just have to start remembering to clear settings
I had bricked mine before with the secure element not responding. I went back to stock and updated through OTA. And my wallet is still saing secure element not responding. Any ideas to this? Thanks
I accepted the OTA, and because I was S-OFF I flashed TWRP and then SU via TWRP. I then setup Google Wallet. In my haste to flash the new MEANRom, I forgot to clear Google Wallet settings, but luckily it still works. It seems to me that the OTA might have solved the secure element problem... Don't take my word on that!
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kevinsturf said:
I had bricked mine before with the secure element not responding. I went back to stock and updated through OTA. And my wallet is still saing secure element not responding. Any ideas to this? Thanks
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I hope this thread gets filled with good news (OP it was the "Secure element not responding" error right? Not the other Wallet errors?) and I hope I am wrong, but like stated in my thread, from all the research I have done there is no fix once it gets corrupted. It has to do with securing financial information and I doubt Google would give out the info as to how to fix it to anyone other than themselves (and even they don't help with this issue).
Anyway this is definitely a thread to keep an eye on and if it gets confirmed I will edit my post with a link to this
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I accepted the OTA, and because I was S-OFF I flashed TWRP and then SU via TWRP. I then setup Google Wallet. In my haste to flash the new MEANRom, I forgot to clear Google Wallet settings, but luckily it still works. It seems to me that the OTA might have solved the secure element problem... Don't take my word on that!
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I hope this thread gets filled with good news (OP it was the "Secure element not responding" error right? Not the other Wallet errors?) and I hope I am wrong, but like stated in my thread, from all the research I have done there is no fix once it gets corrupted. It has to do with securing financial information and I doubt Google would give out the info as to how to fix it to anyone other than themselves (and even they don't help with this issue).
Anyway this is definitely a thread to keep an eye on and if it gets confirmed I will edit my post with a link to this
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Yeah i am seriously hoping that this fixes the issue for everyone but according to the poll at least it seems that not everyones issues were solved. And yes the secure element responding issue was fixed for me after the OTA.
Still busted for me.
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dsEVOlve said:
So maybe we won't have to clear it every time we flash now? That's the one thing that has kept me from really using Wallet . I'm afraid I'm going to forget and brick the NFC. I set it up and just reset it the next day.
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I forgot to clear wallet last night before flashing means latest and my nfc didn't brick..
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how does one know when google wallet is bricked? also.......how the hell does one move files from win 7 pc to internal storage? i plug device in, hit media sync, evo pops up, i then hit phone, not card. my internal pops up, but when i try and move files to it.......it wont let me?!! get error everytime!!!!!! very frustrating!!! tia
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I forgot to clear wallet last night before flashing means latest and my nfc didn't brick..
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im glad to hear it but it sucks that the same isnt happening for everyone else
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how does one know when google wallet is bricked? also.......how the hell does one move files from win 7 pc to internal storage? i plug device in, hit media sync, evo pops up, i then hit phone, not card. my internal pops up, but when i try and move files to it.......it wont let me?!! get error everytime!!!!!! very frustrating!!! tia
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i believe when you open it and it says this device is not supported or the secure element failed, and as for moving there are mods to switch the internal and external storage but id recommend just moving the files with a file explorer on the phone to the internal
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im glad to hear it but it sucks that the same isnt happening for everyone else
i believe when you open it and it says this device is not supported or the secure element failed, and as for moving there are mods to switch the internal and external storage but id recommend just moving the files with a file explorer on the phone to the internal
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Lol I've flashed like 10 roms without clearing wallet hahaha I always forget and I have yet to brick my secure element
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luigi311 said:
Lol I've flashed like 10 roms without clearing wallet hahaha I always forget and I have yet to brick my secure element
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lol well done
i flashed one and it didnt brick but the second one ..as soon as the boot anim went up i realized i didnt reset wallet settings and it wasnt working
maybe google wallet knows what youre thinking and if you realize that you didnt clear settings it bricks automatically :silly:
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how the hell does one move files from win 7 pc to internal storage? i plug device in, hit media sync, evo pops up, i then hit phone, not card. my internal pops up, but when i try and move files to it.......it wont let me?!! get error everytime!!!!!! very frustrating!!! tia
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By far the easiest way is to use AirDroid found on Google Play; it's really a great and super convenient.
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I forgot to clear wallet last night before flashing means latest and my nfc didn't brick..
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zounduser said:
how does one know when google wallet is bricked? also.......how the hell does one move files from win 7 pc to internal storage? i plug device in, hit media sync, evo pops up, i then hit phone, not card. my internal pops up, but when i try and move files to it.......it wont let me?!! get error everytime!!!!!! very frustrating!!! tia
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luigi311 said:
Lol I've flashed like 10 roms without clearing wallet hahaha I always forget and I have yet to brick my secure element
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Yeah, it's not a guarantee that it will brick every time you don't clear data. The only thing we know for sure is that clearing it evades the problem if it would have happened. As hard as I searched for what causes it, I came up empty. No one seems to know what causes it (it has to be something present in non-HTC devices as well, so probably Android related) that triggers it. Your best bet is to just wipe data every time.
First Let me say everything Here is all my personal Opinion and by just rooting phones and installing mod I already sorta voided my warranty. Okay Lets start, A few months when the ICS bug was Hot Like fish grease my phone's USB was corroded and would not charge. I went to a ATT Repair center and Got a new one/refurbish one and I notice that it didn't have much under the battery All it said was the Model number IME barcode and the "MADE IN CHINA" Letters.
I came home and the first thing I did was root install GB custom rom. I decided to wait for CM9 to taste ICS. After it was On nightly I install like any other installation and then move on to AOKP Rom from task, That rom has the feature that lets you change the text where you carrier label is. And I change which was fine. I went back to CM9 and that text Remain there and I did wipe/data like it said in the instructions, When I updated to the latest nightly I use Rom manager and booted into CMW (noob mistake) I wasn't paying attention and I got a soft brick. phone booted and showed SAMSUNG GALAXY SII but then just turn off and on buttons on bottom lit up like when you put your phone into download mode. I pull battery Use method to return to stock/root Using Odin Which if I'm correct it would have increase my counter (Correct me if I'm wrong) phone work Install a kernel with CMW using terminal install CM9 And even when I did those steps the same text That I had use was still There.
I found that very Weird but I still left it I didn't care. When the Leak ATT ICS came out Entropy said something about Bricking your phone something to do with the eMMC chip or whatever, Anyways Fast forward to lastnight/today I wanted to start from scratch and install a Samsung base rom just for giggles. And to my surprise I wipe my SD card and tried to wipe my phone but in the whole process my phone lag and I guess I press the button to wipe so many times I pull battery and guess what happen?... I got a soft brick again, Okay spend 30 mins again to redo my regular soft brick steps and my media scanner, Gallery, Camera didn't work. I then again wipe the phone and loaded semi v16c UCLE5 att update and my phone work again I formatted my sd card and my gallery camera started working again. But again the Carrier text from The very first AOKP rom Was still there in the lock screen.'
I again wipe and soft brick but this time to test out if it really does happen when You wipe from phone. Which it did happen and again repeated my steps. I guess I would like entropy or someone with more knowledge than me help me answer these mind boggling questions.
1. Is it possible my phone is sorta unique of the soft brick/wipe phone routine?
2. I downloaded the app from chain fire that detects if your emmc chip is one of the unlucky ones who have the bug or whatever and I do have the chip
3.How is it possible That the carrier label text is still there after so many wipes and rom flashes
4. I pretty sure I have not done anything to the boot loaders unless the roms I flash has them (which I think they don't)
I hope I explain my situation good. Again this is not a rant or troll or a customer support tread I clearly Understand the dangers of flashing and rooting Thanks for reading
p.s remove the picture because apparently my screenshot is offensive
Well that was a mouthful. LOL.
What are you using to wipe the phone? CWM or Factory data reset in settings?
Phone wipe in settings
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Phone wipe in settings
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Well there's your problem. Use wipe in CWM.
Yeah but I guess my whole dilemma was why do I always get soft bricks even though I'm not on att leak crazy leak ics
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Yeah but I guess my whole dilemma was why do I always get soft bricks even though I'm not on att leak crazy leak ics
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1. You use rom manager
2. You use the factory reset in settings
3. You pull the battery in the middle of flashes
Why are you using Odin when you have cwm? Are you not making nandroids before flashing? Do you know how to boot to recovery from a boot loop?
I suggest you read a whole lot more about flashing and recovery before you do anymore. Because a lot of what you posted sounds like it could've been avoided had you followed any of the guides.post on xda
I can't get into cmw after the reset ebcouse phone won't boot into cwm so I have use Odin because I can only put phone in download mode
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I can't get into cmw after the reset ebcouse phone won't boot into cwm so I have use Odin because I can only put phone in download mode
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Like he said.... do not use the reset within settings as it will soft brick everytime.
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Like he said.... do not use the reset within settings as it will soft brick everytime.
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I actually didn't know this, I had just never tried using the settings reset. Thanks for the heads up. BTW, does it soft brick even if you don't flash a new ROM? Or only when you change ROMs after doing a settings reset?
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I actually didn't know this, I had just never tried using the settings reset. Thanks for the heads up. BTW, does it soft brick even if you don't flash a new ROM? Or only when you change ROMs after doing a settings reset?
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When using a custom ROM. If you are using what came with the phone or is updated officially via ATT then you may use it without issue.
OK . First, don't use rom manager. As already stated. And second, make sure to do FULL wipes between flashing different roms. This includes /system, data, cache, dalvik, and running the kernel cleaning script for good measure. That should always leave u with a fresh install.
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It does it even with the stock root one I use to get back into flashing also the Damm carrier txt still there I'm currently using the jb leak how is that possible
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It will do it on a stock rooted rom as well..
*TGFY FTW*
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It does it even with the stock root one I use to get back into flashing also the Damm carrier txt still there I'm currently using the jb leak how is that possible
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It will do it on a stock rooted rom as well..
*TGFY FTW*
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C'mon guys... if you are rooted you are NOT stock.
There is no way that this would keel happening if u do a full wipe .
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Thanks for the info shoman never really though I about it rooted stock being not fully stock. I guess I can do a control test and run an actual stock and see if it will soft brick.
I just think uts a bit weird my made in China phone has or suffers these things.
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Thanks for the info shoman never really though I about it rooted stock being not fully stock. I guess I can do a control test and run an actual stock and see if it will soft brick.
I just think uts a bit weird my made in China phone has or suffers these things.
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Why is it weird? The issues you're having is all user error. Nothing to do with the phone.
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Why is it weird? The issues you're having is all user error. Nothing to do with the phone.
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I'm going on a limb and say it's not a lot of user error, from what I seen and read in these forums its about hardware and user.
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Crap, I did not mean to thank you; I meant to quote you.
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I'm going on a limb and say it's not a lot of user error, from what I seen and read in these forums its about hardware and user.
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You can't start talking about hardware problems until you eliminate all user error.
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Crap, I did not mean to thank you; I meant to quote you.
You can't start talking about hardware problems until you eliminate all user error.
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Very true,
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