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So I just bought a Vibrant last week.
Then Samsung/Tmobile releases news that a vibrant 4g is in the works.
Now I'm on the fence on whether to sell my Vibrant and pick up a Nexus S.
I love the vibrant, especially in rooted and custom rom form, but I'm not a coder and terrible at understanding how this works so making a custom rom for myself is kinda out right now.
But like most people on this forum, I'm not happy with the fact that Samsung has kinda abandoned the customers that originally bought the first iteration of the Galaxy S from tmobile.
I've noticed that support for the phone from developers on xda has taken a subtle downturn.
I really really appreciate the efforts of tw and other dedicated developers, but without source code for vibrant for 2.2/2.3 and other android versions, how long can developers keep this up for?
I didn't want the nexus s as I see it as another galaxy s phone (fragmentation anyone?), but with its vanilla android versions and constant support from Google, I see it having longevity over the Vibrant.
I figured if Samsung were to release official froyo for the vibrant soon then nothing to worry about, but with the impending release of the vibrant 4g.......well hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.
Am I completely off the mark on this one? Is there something I'm not understanding? What are your guys/girls opinion?
Dude, there is Android 2.3.1 from Nexus S ported to my old HTC HD2 and it's working fine and bug-less. Meanwhile you are waiting for 2.2, who is a *****?
woah woah, exploit.. calm down
Any ways, back to your dilemma, i think sticking with the vibrant is what u shood do personally, but if you have the money to afford a nexus s i say go for it.. rite now i dont have to worry about the vibrant 4g or nexus competing with my vibrant cuz there all basically the same, it kinda jus matters where your at. If you have 4g coverage go get a 4g phone, if not stick with the vibrant and install a FFC and you basically have a Vibrant 4G or Nexus S
If you just bought it last week, take it back. You can get the Nexus S now with that upgrade or wait for the Vibrant Plus.
If you keep it, you will be kicking yourself in a few months when you can't take it back anymore.
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
dglowen23 said:
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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Thats where the dilemma lies, serious development.
Is it going to persist for at least the next 6 months to a year?
Even the nexus one has strong support from 3rd party developers, I would hate to see the vibrant disappear into yesterdays technology so quickly because of a lack of developer support.
btw, I've tried understanding some of this geekspeak, but my knowledge on this stuff is too rudimentary for me to make my own rom.
Technology I love you, but why are you doing this too me?
I won't be getting 4g coverage anytime soon, but its developer support that makes the horns of dilemma rear its sharp points towards me
yeah thats what im hoping for too is long term development, but think about the Behold 2.. it was only sposed to get 1.6 and out of no where got 2.2.1
And to make sure that development doesnt stop with the vibrant im going to be trying to learn all the stuff that it takes to build roms and do all that fun stuff..
Dont worry i wont let you down
You get 14 days to return it no questions asked! No need to sell it!
If you're having second thoughts just return it and wait for the new one!
Personally I would wait for the new phones with dual processor like the LG or something like that!
The Vibrant is so 2010! Lol!
I love my Vibrant, but I know something bigger and better is around the corner!
Just my 2ยข!
Rockin that Nero 4.1 w/Voodoo + s.b.g.2.3
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
yeah but then even after that sumthin big and better comes around another sumthing big and better comes around... so no matter what you do ur gonna be S.O.L.
they wont abandon the vibrant.. i wont at least.
seriously the Behold 2 2.2.1 rom is absolutely mind blowing since samsung dropped it with only android 1.6
it jus shows that anything is possible with todays technology
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing. I'm Canadian, tmobile doesn't operate up here, but we have an AWS provider that offers unlimited plans. So its a buy and sell situation here. I won't have any problems selling this phone but it can be a hassle.
I love this phone.
Its slick, fast, and has everything I need except proper software.
Dglowen I hear you brother (or sister). I want to be optimistic about this phone and I think it'll continue having support, but I have a feeling it'll be fringe support rather then mainstream.
Man I need to learn to code.......
don't get the 4g if you're going to return your vibrant. get the nexus S. the new vibrant is not worth it.
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Haha, "starting out" with Froyo? Based on Samsung's history, good chance 2.2 will be the last official release for it.
If he gets the plus, won't the plus be the ugly stepsister in a few months when Samsung wants to push their next phone.
Take the Vibrant back and wait.
If I was in your sitch I would use the return window. If you have a handset that you can use for the time being wait for the dual core that should be coming.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Yeah idk.. i think that keeping a vibrant wood be worth it but its always kool to have the latest fone out too.. even tho i been sayin keep the vibrant, it wood make more sense to get the newer fone
Whatever I decide, I just hope that the support for this phone continues and doesn't disappear quietly into the night. It definitely deserves official and mainstream support imo.
Hey guys I recently came to att from sprint. I had their galaxy s2 version but decided to get the kg thrill... I have no complaints about the phone except their is no development happening. Should I go ahead and get the att sg2? Is it worth it?
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What do you expect people to say when you ask this question in the AT&T Galaxy S2 forum?
I think you already made up your mind and just want to hear some form of confirmation...
So here it is: Yes, Galaxy S2 is great!
I used the LG Thrill for a month before exchange the the SG2. Yes much much better except no 3-crappy-D
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What do you expect people to say when you ask this question in the AT&T Galaxy S2 forum?
I think you already made up your mind and just want to hear some form of confirmation...
So here it is: Yes, Galaxy S2 is great!
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Honestly I had made up mind...lol.... I just wanted to know if anyone who had the thrill found any significant difference....I only had my sg2 from sprint for about 2 weeks....
I'd like to ask a question as well without threadjacking too much, but I didnt want to make a new thread. I know this is a SGSII forum, but what do you guys think of the SGSII vs. the Samsung Infuse 4G? Very similar phones, my wife has an Infuse already. Is it worth the jump in $ for the SGSII?
I chose the Thrill for a few reasons, cheaper, dual channel RAM, dedicated HDMI port with included cable, and 3D. Check my posted from a week or two ago, I defended this decision on the sgs and Thrill forums.
After three weeks, unable to find a solution to my stereo Bluetooth issues that wasn't temporary, and when gtg left I bounced. The Thrill is a solid phone, it had great specs, and has amazing potential, but I'm not a dev and I cannot tap into that potential without a dev. When all the rats are jumping off a ship it makes you wonder if you should stay. Not that I am calling devs rats, but they are more in tune with the situation than an end user.
Immediately I did not regret jumping to the SGS II. Its faster, no doubt, 1GB RAM seems to outperform 512 of the faster variety. I prefer TouchWiz, opposed to what LG was running. Here there was two ROMs within a week of launch. There's another, and a few other devs are still working an yet to be releases ROMs. Here I am eating my humble pie. I would not go back. The sgs ii feels amazing in hand, its noticibly lighter and thinner. I thought 3D was cool (and seemed batter than the EVOs), but the viewing angles are narrow, and I just didn't use it except to show other people.
If in doubt go into a store and just use the SGS II for a few minutes, I don't think the decision will be hard once you get one in your hands.
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I'd like to ask a question as well without threadjacking too much, but I didnt want to make a new thread. I know this is a SGSII forum, but what do you guys think of the SGSII vs. the Samsung Infuse 4G? Very similar phones, my wife has an Infuse already. Is it worth the jump in $ for the SGSII?
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Glad you asked because I wanted to know the same... it would only be an extra 100 for me to upgrade to sg2 and nothing to get the infuse...
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I had the Infuse prior to my GS2 and I definitely think it's worth the bump in price. I loved the Infuse don't get me wrong, but the GS2 is really a great bump in every aspect.
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I'd like to ask a question as well without threadjacking too much, but I didnt want to make a new thread. I know this is a SGSII forum, but what do you guys think of the SGSII vs. the Samsung Infuse 4G? Very similar phones, my wife has an Infuse already. Is it worth the jump in $ for the SGSII?
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My GF has the Infuse and it's a good device. I think it's worth the price bump to get the GS2 (even more so when the already decent development gets even better). RAM is the most significant point to me. Personally, 512mb is not enough. Otherwise, I'd be fine with the Infuse. The GS2 projects to the future a little better as well.
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Should I go ahead and get the att sg2? Is it worth it?
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Of course. I don't even take the Thrill seriously.
I had the infuse and sold it the day this came out. The development of already way ahead. And GTG is here too now.
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All I can tell you is that the SG II is the best phone I have ever owned. As too if you should switch or not that depends on what you want out of your phone. If the Thrill does everything you want it too, I guess i would say stay with it.
Personally I have tried the Thrill and I think the SG II is just a better phone, but that is only MY opinion.
I love my Galaxy S 2. On my second one after it got stolen.
So, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, so feel free to yell at me if it's not. I currently have a DX2, but will probably be getting a new phone today. I'm kind of (barely) torn between a Rezound and a Razr. I mainly want to get rid of my DX2 because it seems that we'll be locked in the bootloader section for a while, and it doesn't seem to be worth it anymore. Would this be the better device to get? Anyone regretting their purchase of the Rezound? Also, does it appear the Rezound will be completely unlocked soon?
There is nothing to not like about this phone. It feels so good in your hand, runs smoothly, and will have great dev support once rooted. By far the best phone on the market
I'm living on a yellow submarine
Rezound > RAZR & Nexus Prime nuff said.
I realize I'm probably speaking to a biased crowd, but I appreciate the info. I think the DX2 is losing support fast. They're doing some great stuff looking for some info about the bootloader, but I'm not sure they're going to be able to get in there. Looks like I shall be joining the ranks of the Rezound tonight. Thanks.
Wize move.
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So, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, so feel free to yell at me if it's not. I currently have a DX2, but will probably be getting a new phone today. I'm kind of (barely) torn between a Rezound and a Razr. I mainly want to get rid of my DX2 because it seems that we'll be locked in the bootloader section for a while, and it doesn't seem to be worth it anymore. Would this be the better device to get? Anyone regretting their purchase of the Rezound? Also, does it appear the Rezound will be completely unlocked soon?
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The ubiquitous "they" (whoever that is) are working on s-off, meaning that at some undetermined point in the future, we may have an unlocked bootloader. No guarantees, but I would put the odds pretty good in our favor that we'll have it within a few months. Fortunately, the phone works pretty well with the stock ROM (yes, even with the bloatware.) And if you really can't stand the bloatware, there are methods using temp root to de-bloat your phone until a permanent solution is discovered.
As far as the hardware, it's solid, large but not overly cumbersome; I did not feel like I went from a 3.7" screen to a 4.3" screen just by the feel in my hand, but my eyes certainly notice the difference. Also, it's fast: like I said, even without de-bloating there are no hiccups or interface lag whatsoever.
And you can wear overpriced, over-hyped red earbuds, to show everyone you bought the newest, shiniest phone.
No regrets getting this phone whatsoever. Just anxiously waiting for root ... but to be honest, it wouldn't be the end of the world if root is never achieved. I'm completely satisfied with the phone. *fingers crossed*
I came from the X2, you will think you never owned a smartphone before, lol. You may even throw your X2 at the wall.
I started my smartphone journey with HTC, had a couple Moto devices in between (including the Droid X). Let me tell ya, it feels great to be back with HTC. I'll never buy Motorola again!
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I started with Blackberry, lol. Storm 1, Storm 2, realized that was going nowhere, DX1, DX2, now I have an actual usable smartphone! All in a matter of 2 years, lol.
zwade01 said:
I started my smartphone journey with HTC, had a couple Moto devices in between (including the Droid X). Let me tell ya, it feels great to be back with HTC. I'll never buy Motorola again!
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funny you say that because when i goto the verizon store i disregard all motorola lol
Honestly and seriously ...I've been with the nexus one for almost 2 years and looking into an upgrade.
I don't want the Galaxy nexus or the sg2.
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I was initially looking to get the galaxy nexus, after all the delays and needing a new phone as the old one died, went for the galaxy note and am loving it even though it's still on gingerbread. Rooted it, loaded a lite rom, speedier kernel, got rid of most of the Samsung crap and just sitting and waiting for an ics build to pop up.
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Hmm....great input..
Not really impressed by the development progress of the razr ..not sure if its a good idea?
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The phone has only been out for a month. It takes a bit to get some momentum, but honestly, I'm loving the RAZR with a simple root, and some small tweeks.
I'm looking forward to ICS, but am more than happy with the phone as is, and could be pleased for a few months while the development catches up.
The lack of perceived development is due to two things IMO...
1. Locked boot-loader
2. Another great phone (SGN) being released at the same time.
Motorola really messed up by locking this boot-loader while another very "open" phone was being released around the same time and by looking at the forums it's quite obvious. Considering the above though, the development here has been pretty decent thanks to a bunch of dedicated pro's.
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The lack of perceived development is due to two things IMO...
1. Locked boot-loader
2. Another great phone (SGN) being released at the same time.
Motorola really messed up by locking this boot-loader while another very "open" phone was being released around the same time and by looking at the forums it's quite obvious. Considering the above though, the development here has been pretty decent thanks to a bunch of dedicated pro's.
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According to what I've read, the Nexus, while on Verizon, the contract is actually under Google's control. Hence, the unlocked bootloader. It was Google's requirement that the phone come to the market open.
Motorola, on the other hand, is restricted like HTC & other Samsung devices on Verizon's network. HTC originally stated they would release a tool, but then Verizon forbade it, and the Rezound was fully locked as well.
Samsung's phones are almost always locked down, it just so happens they're easier to hack, but they don't support development very well, so even with it unlocked, you end up with very poor support.
HTC never releases their source code (at least from what I've read) so it's hard to get a working custom rom that's 100% on their phone.
I've owned 3 Motorola Droid phones, and the last two have been great for development. My mom also owns another one in the Droid X, and it too was easy to flash, and had plenty of support from the community due to the source codes being available.
If I can teach my mom how to flash a custom ROM on her phone, it can't be THAT hard to do, and the support I get when she has an issue, is better than Verizon offers in store.
As for Motorola messing up, maybe it's on timing, but really it's not their fault the phone came locked down. They actually were pushing for open devices first, by offering the OG Droid, and then offering the Xoom with an unlocked bootloader, and announcing it wanted to unlock bootloaders in late 2011.....it's just Verizon shoved it back in their face.
So if anything blame Verizon for this.
hmm, my problem is that i really don't want a Samsung phone. The SG2 is will become outdated and most ppl have that (i want to be different).
I've thought of the Note, i like big, but found it unpractical.
What else? Lenovo?
Any new phones around the corner? What's after the Razr?
ultra99 said:
hmm, my problem is that i really don't want a Samsung phone. The SG2 is will become outdated and most ppl have that (i want to be different).
I've thought of the Note, i like big, but found it unpractical.
What else? Lenovo?
Any new phones around the corner? What's after the Razr?
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I'm a keyboard guy myself, so I'm getting ready for the Droid 4 which should be coming out any day now, and am probably going to give my RAZR to my wife, as she likes the screen, and her OG droid is getting really long in the tooth.
After that, there's a new HTC "Zeta" was rumored recently as well as the "ville".
Really, you kind of have to wait till CES for more phones after Christmas. CES is Jan 10-14th, and there will be quite a few new phones that are announced there.
I am also coming from a N1, been using it for 2 years. No big problems except the lack of internal memory (even thought I'm using S2E, but still...) and couldn't play much games on the phone...
The Razr looks very nice! The CPU is the same one as the GN, but with much better designs and build. So I also seriously consider this phone too. But as a top of the line phone the graphic seems a little weak, even compare to SGS2(which is out almost half year now). So I'm a llittle worry about this....Maybe we will have to keep using our trusty N1 at least till the end of CES in Jan.
I agree with garlick2. The first thing I did was to root this phone. However, this is the first Android phone that I have had that I have been happy with right out of the box. I have made a few minor customizations, but nothing major.
Hey guys, as always i first would like to offer my praise and sincere admiration to everyone who has and continues to work on the Dx2. You are ALL amazing and the work you do has had me enjoying this phone ever since i have gotten it..
That being said, my dx2 is a company phone.. they pay for it and all its accessories and monthly cost etc.. So my big boss wanted to upgrade from his blackberry so he got a Razr Maxx. He can't get use to it and (to LOL) its incompatible with the bluetooth in his Mercedes (don't u WISH u had that problem)..
So anyway, he is offering me to take the Maxx (for Free).. Now i have to say, I have CM7 on my X2, and honestly i LOVE it.. Its Fast, It works, it never crashes.. I ask it to do something, and it does it.
Now yes, the Maxx is 4G, with supposedly insane battery life. I have read i think there is ics for it now too.. I dunno..
Question is.. Do i take the upgrade and lose MY upgrade (January 2013), to which a quad core or the s3 will be out then, or do i take the Maxx now?
Ill admit I'm leaning on keeping my x2.. I really have no issues with it (and I'm on Long Island with is excellent 4G)..
Well. I'd go razr cuz they just did a bootloader workaround. Forget quad core. They can hardly utilize the second core on our x2 and you want 2 more? But you could wait and boycott Motorola ...
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I'd probably jump on the razr, its a known winner.
Its the success story that we had hoped the X2 and/or Bionic would have been
if you wait and bet on a new model before its proven you have the potential to pick a phone with less dev support.
Razr Maxx. That phone is looking better and better to me every day. Why? My dad has it and his 4g, kexec'ed phone whoops the **** out of my X2
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January is a long way away or I would say to wait it out. Why would your upgrade change if the phone is already purchased? Anyway, the maxx has great battery life, 4g, kexec, and an ics leak, that sounds like a nice combo to me. On the negative side its moto and by 2013 the phones will dwarf the razr. You have a tough decision on your hands. I just hope you get away from this phone eventually. Im starting to hate it more and more. (Not trying to be negative just speaking my mind)
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I'm also curious as to why your upgrade would be lost if you're getting the phone from a non-Verizon source.
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If he gives you a phone, why would you lose your upgrade date? I've changed my activated phone (broke my DX, bought a DX2 off Craigslist) and my upgrade date stayed the same.
You should be able to activate his phone on your number and save the upgrade for something badass quadcore style
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You should be able to activate his phone on your number and save the upgrade for something badass quadcore style
from my X2 roaming the north
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What a NICE boss! Btw, why did he pick u over and above so many employees? Are u the ONLY employee under him? Btw,you could wait for the S3 or some other phone. But since it is a company phone will ur company allow u to buy any phone or they decide what phone u'll get?
Yes the S3 is probably a quad core phone (rumor has it that in US it will be dual core just like the HTC One XL thingy) or you can get the next nexus, but Jan is a long way. There are ALWAYS better phones round the corner. You have to just pick your poison and stick with it... And the Maxx is one of the best. Of course, I will NOT go for it purely on principle, NO MOTOROLA for me anymore! But you should decide if the Maxx will do ALL you want from a phone for the next 2 years or so. I believe it will...
Well, I'm one that went from the DX2 to the Razr Maxx. I'm also one that said no more Moto phones for me again. I guess I lied. When I first upgraded, I tried the other side and found out that the old saying "the grass is greener on the other side" doesn't hold true with these phones. The phone I bought (HTC Rezound) missed probably 4 out of 5 calls I received. It just didn't ring. Needless to say I can't have that. It is after all, first and foremost a phone. If it doesn't ring when you get a call, all the unlocked bootloaders in the world aren't worth having. Moto hardware is tough to beat.
So, with that said, yeah, I like the phone. There's lots of roms available for it. Yes, ICS roms are there too. They do have their quirks though. Much like CM7 for the DX2. I'm running Eclipse on it right now but from what I remember, the problems with it that were most noticeable were things like the camcorder not working (no Moto drivers available) and a Bluetooth issue. Bluetooth works fine but if you turn off the Bluetooth device you're using off and forget to turn Bluetooth off on the phone, and then make a call or somebody calls you, you won't hear them and they can't hear you. Seems to me that mine wouldn't even ring but it's been a while so I don't remember for sure. The easy fix is to turn off Bluetooth when you aren't using it. Also, and this was kind of the one issue that made me leave it, data can be iffy at times. I tried several of them (Gummy and Black Widow being the best for me) and had problems with data being dropped. Only time I had troubles with it was when I was in a weak area but a lot of my work is in areas like that and it would get quite frustrating. However, it seems to be a hit and miss thing. Some people have absolutely no problems with data on those two roms, others have the problems I have. I suspect it depends on the signal but others say they don't have problems even with a weak signal so; who knows?
I have no doubt though that when the ICS upgrade comes, those issues will be fixed with the new kernal that comes with it. The phone is free. You'd be a fool not to jump on it. It shouldn't change your upgrade path since you didn't buy it so you really have nothing to lose. If you don't like it, activate your X2 again, unless of course, you have to give that up to get this one. If that's the case, well, I'd still go for the Maxx.
One more thought. For the Razr and Razr Maxx, if it's a CDMA phone, XDA isn't the best place to find roms, mods or what have you, for it. Most of the stuff here is for the GSM version of the phone. There's a website out there that's pretty much totally devoted to the Razr. They have far more stuff there for the CDMA phone than you can get here. Don't know what the policies are here for posting links to other forums so I guess I'll leave it out. If you get it and want a link, PM me.
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Hey guys, as always i first would like to offer my praise and sincere admiration to everyone who has and continues to work on the Dx2. You are ALL amazing and the work you do has had me enjoying this phone ever since i have gotten it..
That being said, my dx2 is a company phone.. they pay for it and all its accessories and monthly cost etc.. So my big boss wanted to upgrade from his blackberry so he got a Razr Maxx. He can't get use to it and (to LOL) its incompatible with the bluetooth in his Mercedes (don't u WISH u had that problem)..
So anyway, he is offering me to take the Maxx (for Free).. Now i have to say, I have CM7 on my X2, and honestly i LOVE it.. Its Fast, It works, it never crashes.. I ask it to do something, and it does it.
Now yes, the Maxx is 4G, with supposedly insane battery life. I have read i think there is ics for it now too.. I dunno..
Question is.. Do i take the upgrade and lose MY upgrade (January 2013), to which a quad core or the s3 will be out then, or do i take the Maxx now?
Ill admit I'm leaning on keeping my x2.. I really have no issues with it (and I'm on Long Island with is excellent 4G)..
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are you sure youd lose your upgrade? if hes giving it to you, you wont lose it.
Yeah, your upgrade is based on your contract, not your phone. If you get a phone from a third party and you have it lit on your line, you won't lose the upgrade. This is coming from a former tier 2 billing support rep. ;-) enjoy your new phones.
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Hey sorry for my delay in response, been busy..
Ok the Reason i would "Lose" my upgrade is because we here are all on a corporate verizon contract. We have lets say 10-12 employees under this contract, and the owners and higher ups also have their wives and kids under the contract as well.. so that now becomes like 30 people.. They upgrade phones so often that they "Take" an upgrade for one line and use it for another etc..
So if I take the Maxx, my boss will "Take" my upgrade to use for HIS next phone, in effect taking away my upgrade.. Now that being said, i (not trying to toot my horn) am a very valueable employee here (I'm the CIO/Network Admin, in an IT Department of 1, aka ME) so I get treated Very well, for example my boss who is the owner of the company and the only person i report too 3 weeks ago just Gave me his 64G 3G Ipad2 because he got an Ipad3, and i didnt even ask nor want one.. I wont even mention the Corporate Gas card. x 10000
But now you know my conumdrum. He has the Razer Maxx now, and he LOATHES it. He is a very simplistic user, and he is staying on his blackberry (if you can believe that), so he said he is waiting for some friend to give him a new blackberry and he is supposedly gonna pass the Maxx off to me.. So i will have the Maxx, and the X2 at my disposal.
To the nice dude who said about the roms and such on other sites, i thank you, you can pm me any info you have, i would have googled and found them anyway, but if you know where the goods are it can save me some time.
I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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Good to know why your upgrade will be gone! It makes sense and clarifies a mystery. The Razr Maxx will get ICS and it will be proper ICS (hopefully with the 3.0 kernel and even if not, the kernel it will use WILL have all drivers for hardware). Of course, this version of ICS will have Motorola's trademark crapware on top, but still it is ICS. I dunno what you mean by "emulated ICS".. Did you mean something like Samsung Galaxy S's "ICS-like value pack" (which is Gingerbread with some of ICS's features, kinda like CM 7.2)? If so, then rest assured that Razr Maxx WILL get ICS. Period. And it is rootable + it has great ROMs and a lot of devs. I must say I do admire the build quality of Motorola. The phones are sturdy and rock solid. My X2 was a rock. It could handle falls and the body felt premium and it doesn't make squeaks when you press it. My Dinc2's plastic back panel makes some squeaks and noises when I hold the phone, and it feels cheaper in quality.
So, the Razr Maxx is a pretty good phone. It has its caveats, it is locked down and Moto may stop supporting it once their next flagship phone arrives, ditching it like it did with the X2... Keep this in mind, when weighing the phone's pros and cons. I say wait till tomorrow when Samsung is gonna unveil the Galaxy S3. If it comes on Verizon and it is a beast (which it should) then hold out for that. Else go for this!!
Cheers! \m/
hehe, personally now I'd take a WM7 phone by any maker (as long as it is reasonable) over anything Motorola produces.
But honestly, to me, it's Verizon, I have absolutely no expectations of any of the other impressive phones. their top 3, (maxx ~ evil moto, nexus, iphone ~ evil apple)
No one X for us, no samsung note, no good sony phones, no galaxy SII, no Titan II with a super impressive camera, etc.
Anyways, might as well just take the Maxx for now, they get development love, and you don't have to worry about battery life, also your next upgrade after it would be promised quad core and most likely software that could utilize it better than dual core currently is XD
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Hey sorry for my delay in response, been busy..
Ok the Reason i would "Lose" my upgrade is because we here are all on a corporate verizon contract. We have lets say 10-12 employees under this contract, and the owners and higher ups also have their wives and kids under the contract as well.. so that now becomes like 30 people.. They upgrade phones so often that they "Take" an upgrade for one line and use it for another etc..
So if I take the Maxx, my boss will "Take" my upgrade to use for HIS next phone, in effect taking away my upgrade.. Now that being said, i (not trying to toot my horn) am a very valueable employee here (I'm the CIO/Network Admin, in an IT Department of 1, aka ME) so I get treated Very well, for example my boss who is the owner of the company and the only person i report too 3 weeks ago just Gave me his 64G 3G Ipad2 because he got an Ipad3, and i didnt even ask nor want one.. I wont even mention the Corporate Gas card. x 10000
But now you know my conumdrum. He has the Razer Maxx now, and he LOATHES it. He is a very simplistic user, and he is staying on his blackberry (if you can believe that), so he said he is waiting for some friend to give him a new blackberry and he is supposedly gonna pass the Maxx off to me.. So i will have the Maxx, and the X2 at my disposal.
To the nice dude who said about the roms and such on other sites, i thank you, you can pm me any info you have, i would have googled and found them anyway, but if you know where the goods are it can save me some time.
I think part of my trepedation on the Maxx is honestly CM7 on the X2 is faster i will say that. The UI and snappiness of the phone over the Motoblurred Crapola on the Maxx just is a breeze and to me Much faster... Now obviouslyi would blitz the hell out of the maxx and insall some ICS variant on it, and i know the Maxx is getting the ICS upgrade, but is the ICS roms for it TRUE ICS? Or Emulated ICS?
I swore my next phone would have complete UI Hardware Acceleration, as smooth as the iphone, and i know ICS brings that, but only in its True form.
Thanks for all the replies tho, you guys/gals are the best.
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Its an actual official ics leak, kernel and all. Aparrently motorola got ics right according to some, but it hardly makes up for their business practices.
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