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Hi everyone,
I want to root my phone (will use this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200167 - I dont understand much about this but ohh well) and i read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905) so i kinda knew what i was doing. And as i understood from that thread, the best way to backup all my data (like creating my custom rom right?) is with nandroid! But what is nandroid and how can i backup my data with it?
I just would like some suggestions from you! what i should do and how i should do it before i root my phone?
Thank you in advance!
After root install custom recovery, reboot phone to it and choose backup, wait and its done.
send from Andy's PHOENIX.
i didnt quite understood the install custom recovery! how can i install it? i can only do a backup of my recovery when i root my phone?
would be awesome if i could have a private chat with someone who could lose some of their time explaining me this!
Palmaaa said:
i didnt quite understood the install custom recovery! how can i install it? i can only do a backup of my recovery when i root my phone?
would be awesome if i could have a private chat with someone who could lose some of their time explaining me this!
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After rooting your phone, please read this how-to and you should able to install recovery just fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146566
BTW, prefer installing TWRP v1.0.3.13b recovery instead of the buggy CWM or old amonra
I forgot to mention that my knowledge about this is basically "0"! So i would thank you if you could explain a little better!
Sorry and thank you once again for understanding!
Palmaaa said:
I forgot to mention that my knowledge about this is basically "0"! So i would thank you if you could explain a little better!
Sorry and thank you once again for understanding!
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ok, my understanding is that in order to use nandroid backup, your phone has to be rooted first.
in the link you posted about rooting GB 2.3.3 ROM, it only mentioned using astro file manager to backup the apps. nowhere it mentioned nandroid backup.
if you are rooting a froyo(2.2/2.2.x) based phone, it is really quite simple. I do not think any kind of backup is needed at all.
Well i finished rooting my phone. Went well with no problems. Quite simple in fact, but what i wanted to know is, imagine i install a custom rom (btw, i know kernel improves the performance of your phone, so what does a custom rom does?) that i suddenly dont like, so i want to get back to my hold one. How can i backup my original rom?
Palmaaa said:
Well i finished rooting my phone. Went well with no problems. Quite simple in fact, but what i wanted to know is, imagine i install a custom rom (btw, i know kernel improves the performance of your phone, so what does a custom rom does?) that i suddenly dont like, so i want to get back to my hold one. How can i backup my original rom?
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OK, my suggestion is to use ROM manager from market. quite noob friendly.
it has backup/restore option right there. just follow the menu.
Oh ok! thank you very much for your time! i'll remember myself to use that app when i think of getting a new rom! probably tomorrow or so!
again, thank you!
Palmaaa said:
Oh ok! thank you very much for your time! i'll remember myself to use that app when i think of getting a new rom! probably tomorrow or so!
again, thank you!
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To use ROM Manager features you must inevitable flash CWM recovery and to do so you have two options, first beign flashing it via ROM Manager that can cause a bricked phone, or use recovery flashing how-to i posted earlier and install buggy and crappy CWM from there, thats why i recommend TWRP recovery
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
TakamineSubasa said:
To use ROM Manager features you must inevitable flash CWM recovery and to do so you either have two options, first beign flashing it via ROM Manager that can cause a bricked phone, or use recovery flashing how-to i posted earlier and install buggy and crappy CWM from there, thats why i recommend TWRP recovery
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
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thanks for the warning, but CWM has been working great for me. no problem at all.
yeah, do proceed with caution.
calhotel said:
thanks for the warning, but CWM has been working great for me. no problem at all.
yeah, do proceed with caution.
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Ya, its not that it'll break phone but many features dont go well like zip signature verification which verifies that everything is correct in the zip and so the flash process will not cause a corrupted filesystem, mmm the amount of "No" confirmations are frankly ridiculous... some users reported flashing problems with the last version 5.0.2.0... Cannot repair SD Card, doesnt have touchscreen support and it cannot make selective backups which frankly s%x cause you wasted time and space... (also the fact that doesnt have themes support and cant compress backups...)
And also the fact tha maaany maaany users including me have bricked their phones flashing via ROM Manager... And also the fact that wiping cache & dalvik with CWM will cause conflict with a2sd script users...
Anyway @Palmaaa if you want to risk your phone flash via rom manager... if you want a crappy recovery flash CWM.... if you want the best and safest recovery then prefer TWRP v1.0.3.13b, your phone and your physical keys will say thank you
I appreciate your warning! ill try to search a bit more about what im going to do next!
Never use ROM manager. It breaks the phone and it gets stuck at LG logo on boot. Many users have reported the issue. Use the recovery for flashing and taking backups.
gkarthik16 said:
Never use ROM manager. It breaks the phone and it gets stuck at LG logo on boot. Many users have reported the issue. Use the recovery for flashing and taking backups.
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it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
calhotel said:
it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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sorry that you dont want to argue but, boy are you kidding me with that rating thing?? do you really think that every single person in market (and that rated that thing) has an Optimus One?? you are sooo naive....
In our phone p500 or optimus one, 01, OO, ROM Manager is very well known for bricking our devices....
Oh, and btw seems that you doesnt have a clue on how benefical is to have a properly working zip verification feature and also the plethora of other useful functions TWRP has..
kthnxbye
calhotel said:
it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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Yeah, none of them are morons. For every other widget and live wallpaper app, the 'intelligent' users rate the app 1 star just because they cannot find it under the app drawer. So keeping in mind the 'intelligent' users on the market, I don't give a **** about the ratings.
It doesn't make a difference if you did not face issues. There are many people who have faced the issue and ONLY because of ROM manager. Just wanted to prevent another user from facing a similar issue and instead use the clean and safe method of custom recovery.
You tone showed that you're arguing. That last sentence doesn't make any sense.
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sorry that you dont want to argue but, boy are you kidding me with that rating thing?? do you really think that every single person in market (and that rated that thing) has an Optimus One?? you are sooo naive....
In our phone p500 or optimus one, 01, OO, ROM Manager is very well known for bricking our devices....
Oh, and btw seems that you doesnt have a clue on how benefical is to have a properly working zip verification feature and also the plethora of other useful functions TWRP has..
kthnxbye
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statistically, I trust that rating more than you guys' opinion. sorry to tell you the truth.
TWRP, yeah, that's nice. but CWD worked for me, so?
calhotel said:
statistically, I trust that rating more than you guys' opinion. sorry to tell you the truth.
TWRP, yeah, that's nice. but CWD worked for me, so?
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Dude you are not helping.... encouraging users and specially new users to install something that has a high risk to screw and brick ur phone is not a way of helping them, if rom manager worked for you its fine, but maybe for another user it'll break his phone, ROM Manager is an unreliable app and method to use recoveries....... Ohh and btw user can install whatever he wants im just guiding and encouraging him to install the safest and most trustworthy and functional recovery of all, and is TWRP v1.0.3.13b
Have phun when ur volume keys, menu or any other button stops working LOLz
cya
TakamineSubasa said:
Dude you are not helping.... encouraging users and specially new users to install something that has a high risk to screw and brick ur phone is not a way of helping them, if rom manager worked for you its fine, but maybe for another user it'll break his phone, ROM Manager is an unreliable app and method to use recoveries....... Ohh and btw user can install whatever he wants im just guiding and encouraging him to install the safest and most trustworthy and functional recovery of all, and is TWRP v1.0.3.13b
cya
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thanks, I think you already scared a lot of ppl off. lol. maybe I will try TWRP one day.
for me, that's fine. I have no axe to grind.
I have been experiencing ROM issues and of course this is the first time for me downloading ROMS; so please, I am not trying to live in ignorance. In fact, the opposite. I have done the research, checked multiple sites, blah, blah, blah.
I downloaded the latest version of CWM Pro Version. I backed up my current ROM and looked at some of the latest and greatest ROMS. I downloaded the SkyRaider Zeus ROM and liked it, but could not receive or make phone calls. I downloaded another ROM and the same issue. Plus, I had multiple issues with the certain apps not working (for example, LOCALE would open and close).
So, I reverted back to my stock ROM, which I like, but I keep having those annoying "updates" trying to download. Then, I also read on XDA...
ClockworkMod Recovery: The recent "5.x" update of ClockworkMod Recovery (CWR) has known issues. Particularly, it does not restore backups and will enter into a bootloop. For the time being, do NOT update to this version CWR and do NOT use Rom Manager to backup, flash ROMS, or restore backups because in order to perform these operations, CWR needs to be current. Links to how-to and alternate recovery images will follow after I've slept, drank some Jack, and further manipulated my mind into cooperating with reality.
So, some of you more experienced with Android could answer some questions...
Has this issue with CWR been taken care of?
Are these common problems with ROMS?
Will flashing a ROM in recovery take care of these issues?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks everyone!
Living by Faith in Christ,
Ryon
First off, never install a ROM in bootloader, you will brick your device.
I personally prefer to download the ROM from a forum, then place on sd card then manually go into recovery and flash it. I have never had a problem doing it this way.
Ah man! I used the wrong terminology. Thanks for setting me straight. I changed my first post so that people could answer the questions correctly in the future!
Any other wisdom out there would be great!
Ryon
RyonAdcock said:
Has this issue with CWR been taken care of?
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Yes. Everything should be working correctly as of 5.0.2.1.
Are these common problems with ROMS?
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Yes. If you did not flash the appropriate radio for that ROM (which from the description you gave is probably your problem). That may also be what is causing Locale to close depending on what it checks on startup. Remember, radios are flashed in bootloader and roms in recovery.
Will flashing a ROM in recovery take care of these issues?
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No, you need to download a radio that is suggested for use with the ROM.
At this time, most use MR2-latest but the ROM threads should recommend one in their description.
Thanks for the quick reply! As with answered questions come more questions.
Could you help me understand the theory behind radios? I am not quite sure why the radio needs to be changed.
Also, what is the common program or app that most people are using to update or change their radios? I have heard of a few, but would like more wisdom.
Thanks again!
Ryon
RyonAdcock said:
Thanks for the quick reply! As with answered questions come more questions.
Could you help me understand the theory behind radios? I am not quite sure why the radio needs to be changed.
Also, what is the common program or app that most people are using to update or change their radios? I have heard of a few, but would like more wisdom.
Thanks again!
Ryon
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Radios need to be changed since the 4g devices can't use *228 to update roaming like 3g devices. If you had a TB on froyo you will need to update radio prior to root cause you won't signal after you flash your first Rom or after flash you better have WiFi or be near a computer or you won't be able to use ur phone.
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Hey guys,
Was having too many issues with GNex so I traded in for a rezound but hate all the bloat on it. Decided I'd finally stick my neck out there and try my noob hand at rooting and customizing it.
So, got my rezound unlocked and rooted and before i try anything, how do I ensure I don't brick the phone?
Searched around for a real dumbed down guide to backup and recovery but I'm at a kindergarten level with this stuff. For example, it took me about 4 hours to figure out how to unlock and root the phone and HTC gives you directions on unlocking.
Have titanium backup, and rom manager. I read there's 2 ways to create a recovery file - cwm and amon-ra, read about nandroid backup but don't know what these things mean or how they function.
Can anyone give me a quick tutorial in backing up the phone in case I eff it up?
Any help would be much appreciated, I apologize if this is too basic a question.
Thanks
No apologies! You have to start somewhere so it's all good. I would start with these two very helpful threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418653
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418659
I would recommend using the Amon_Ra recovery from THIS post.
Since you are coming from a Gnex...is it safe to assume you know how to flash a custom recovery with the boot.img?
It's not safe to say I know how to do anything yet haha. I liked the non cluttered feel of the gnex so I didn't mess with it and I never did anything with my og Droid. Never flashed anything so I'm about as noob as they come. I unlocked and rooted this phone and that's my experience to this point. Again all help is good
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Thanks for the links btw. Slowly figuring this stuff out. Got amon ra recovery now... What does that do exactly? Just trying to ensure I can get back to where.I am in case I mess up my phone. Should I do a nandroid backup? Not sure what that means either but I see some threads about how to do it.
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biond said:
Thanks for the links btw. Slowly figuring this stuff out. Got amon ra recovery now... What does that do exactly? Just trying to ensure I can get back to where.I am in case I mess up my phone. Should I do a nandroid backup? Not sure what that means either but I see some threads about how to do it.
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A nandroid is an image of your phone in its current state. So yes, you should do a nandroid back up now before you flash a ROM so if something goes wrong you can restore it back to how it is now.
Then if you're going to flash a kernel after you flash a ROM you should probably make one before flashing the kernel as well in case something goes wrong.
Then when you have the phone the way you like it with a custom ROM/kernel you can make a nandroid at that point as well so you have that handy in case of anything going wrong somewhere down the line or if you just want to get back to that setup after trying out a different ROM. Then you just restore that instead of having to flash the other ROM/kernel again. If you want you can make nandroids of all your custom ROM configurations so you can switch them whenever you want. Of course you should keep an eye out in the threads of the ROMs in case of updates, and sometimes you need to wipe and flash the new version if there is an update.
Here's a few links with some good info:
Beginner's Guide to Rooting Android Devices
Quick INTRO TO ROOTING for those new to rooting
[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide)
If you've never flashed anything before and are planning on customizing this thing; welcome to the family of rezound.
welcome! The ReZound in my opinion is a great phone.
Alright, got myself some good information from you all. Nandroid backup done and saved on my PC so now I'm good to ROM? Eager to rid myself of the enormous amount of bloat the rezound comes with.
One more thing to add for you to know about your original backup, or subsequent ones- that wasn't brought up here.. (smarter folks shoot this down if I'm wrong).. Someone stated above that once you have your nandroid you're always ready to go back to that original backup with a simple flash. This is not the case if he's gone to another rom that uses a different kernel right? It seems some devs have found ways to work the kernel install into the rom install/flash, and others haven't.. Until there's a standard- there's never a guarantee that restoring that original nandroid will bring you back to your original kernel correct? You may have to d/l and install the boot.img after the restore.
That's part of my issue now. I keep ready about flashing roms and kernels but they all assume some level of proficiency when it's something I've never tried. I'm thinking of starting with clean Rom 1.5 but I want to keep some apps like nfl. I just can't find the bare bones explanation of what to do with the file and how to get my data back after i flash that Rom (a process I am foreign to). I download the zip to my PC.... Then what?
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You may also want to get the stock rooted kernel, and keep it with the nandroid. If, and when you want to restore, place your nandroid, and kernel on your sd card. Boot into Amon ra, and restore, then flash the kernel in fastboot. Not the best description, but I hope that helps....
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I'm running ineffabalis with their stock rooted kernel right now mainly because I want to wait until the kernel update process is a little more streamlined and the kernels themselves are a little more ironed out. That said, the complete newb sticky guide over in the dev section has a process that seems easy enough.. Basically involves a simple fastboot command from dos. It's written for ziggys but should translate to other kernels as well.
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Hi,
I have been using my Asus Prime for several months now without problems. I bought it from another user in May where he had installed a custom rom which I didn't like. After several days of reading I managed to revert to an Asus rom with a build number 9.4.2.21. However now that there is a new firmware for WW version, whenever I try to update, its says I have the latest update!! My Prime is still unlocked if this plays any role.
Any ideas?
If you need any further information please ask.
Thank you
Yannis
Do you know if your prime is rooted? If it is, just install Goomanager from the Play store and have it flash the TWRP Recovery. After that, you should be free to flash whatever Prime ROMs you want, just as long as you follow the instructions in the developers' threads. Personally, I would recommend AndroWook, as it is extremely stable and fast. If you're more adventurous, and willing to put up with some loss of functionality, there are a few pre-release Jelly Bean ROMs floating around as well.
ZebTheCalvinist said:
Do you know if your prime is rooted? If it is, just install Goomanager from the Play store and have it flash the TWRP Recovery. After that, you should be free to flash whatever Prime ROMs you want, just as long as you follow the instructions in the developers' threads. Personally, I would recommend AndroWook, as it is extremely stable and fast. If you're more adventurous, and willing to put up with some loss of functionality, there are a few pre-release Jelly Bean ROMs floating around as well.
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Thank you for the quick reply!
It must be rooted, since I remember using CWM in order to fix it. I also found a goomanager folder in root dire However is there any way to verify that it is rooted? I like to have my Asus as close to stock rom as possible. On the other hand I wouldnt mind any speed increase... I found so far the following 9.4.2.28 roms:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/prime.html
http://odjdubhd.forumer.com/7-5-12-prime-w-sense-appeal-1-0-stock-9-4-2-28-tweaked-t2267679.html
Would you still suggest the AndroWook?
yannis1976 said:
Thank you for the quick reply!
It must be rooted, since I remember using CWM in order to fix it. I also found a goomanager folder in root dire However is there any way to verify that it is rooted? I like to have my Asus as close to stock rom as possible. On the other hand I wouldnt mind any speed increase... I found so far the following 9.4.2.28 roms:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/prime.html
http://odjdubhd.forumer.com/7-5-12-prime-w-sense-appeal-1-0-stock-9-4-2-28-tweaked-t2267679.html
Would you still suggest the AndroWook?
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Actually.....
1. Root your device
2. Unlock your device to install custom roms
3. Install CWM or TWM recovery
4. Read/research custom rom threads on Prime Dev section to see how to install each Custom Rom
shinzz said:
Actually.....
1. Root your device
2. Unlock your device to install custom roms
3. Install CWM or TWM recovery
4. Read/research custom rom threads on Prime Dev section to see how to install each Custom Rom
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As I said before, the device is unlocked and had the CWM installed.
However why not use the goomanager which seems more easy?
yannis1976 said:
As I said before, the device is unlocked and had the CWM installed.
However why not use the goomanager which seems more easy?
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I would recommend using TWRP. It's a bit easier to use and seems to be more reliable than CWM.
As for the ROMs, I would still recommend AndroWook. I used Virtuous, and it's very solid, but AW is just a lot smoother and more optimized. It is a stock-based ROM as well, but there are a few more tweaks that improve the overall performance.
ZebTheCalvinist said:
Do you know if your prime is rooted? If it is, just install Goomanager from the Play store and have it flash the TWRP Recovery. After that, you should be free to flash whatever Prime ROMs you want, just as long as you follow the instructions in the developers' threads. Personally, I would recommend AndroWook, as it is extremely stable and fast. If you're more adventurous, and willing to put up with some loss of functionality, there are a few pre-release Jelly Bean ROMs floating around as well.
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Just installed the Goomanager and found several roms in the internal sd:
Nightly
rc
aAKP
Euroskank
TeamBroccoli
Teameos
Teamgummy
Shall I erase them all?
yannis1976 said:
Just installed the Goomanager and found several roms in the internal sd:
Nightly
rc
aAKP
Euroskank
TeamBroccoli
Teameos
Teamgummy
Shall I erase them all?
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Those are not actually downloaded; they are ROMs that you have the option of downloading through Goomanager. You don't need to worry about deleting them. As for installing TWRP, I don't actually remember what it is that you do to get it. If you go in the Development subforum here, you can find the TWRP thread with instructions on how to install it through GM. From there, you just need to download the ROM file of your choice, do all the necessary wipes, and flash away.
ZebTheCalvinist said:
I would recommend using TWRP. It's a bit easier to use and seems to be more reliable than CWM.
As for the ROMs, I would still recommend AndroWook. I used Virtuous, and it's very solid, but AW is just a lot smoother and more optimized. It is a stock-based ROM as well, but there are a few more tweaks that improve the overall performance.
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TWRP doesn't list Transformer Prime as a supported device. Should I use it anyway?
yannis1976 said:
TWRP doesn't list Transformer Prime as a supported device. Should I use it anyway?
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In the upper right hand corner is the drop-down menu. On that menu, tap on "Install Open Recovery Script." That will install TWRP.
ok, I installed the TWRP and waiting for AndroWook to be downloaded...
My only concern now is whether this is the best rom..
yannis1976 said:
ok, I installed the TWRP and waiting for AndroWook to be downloaded...
My only concern now is whether this is the best rom..
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It's the best one I've used. Just make sure to do all your wipes, and you'll be good to go. If you don't like it, you can always do a backup and flash Virtuous.
By the way, if you're flashing a lot of ROMs (or even one ROM) you'll want Titanium Backup Pro. It's well worth the $6 it costs in the market to be able to do batch restores of apps with all their data intact.
I just unlocked mine today and I'm not sure where to go from here. Do I need an SD card? And when I reboot the Prime and see "This device is unlocked" in the top corner I press up and all I get is a black screen similar to sleep of death where you have to hold down the power for like 20 seconds to get a response. What's the deal with this?
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jmikeb92 said:
I just unlocked mine today and I'm not sure where to go from here. Do I need an SD card? And when I reboot the Prime and see "This device is unlocked" in the top corner I press up and all I get is a black screen similar to sleep of death where you have to hold down the power for like 20 seconds to get a response. What's the deal with this?
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In the Dev section, there's a stickied thread with videos on how to do all of this. Please go and watch them.
You need to know, that since you've unlocked your prime, you've completely VOIDED ALL WARRANTY. I only say that because if you're asking what to do, then you're very much a noob and maybe you should have read more before you started screwing around.
Now that's done.
The first thing I recommend doing is rooting your device. You need a PC to do it.
Use this method to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588
Once you've rooted your device, go to the Google Play Store and install GooManager, it is free.
In goo manager, you want to go into the menu, and click Install OpenRecoveryScript. That will install TWRP, which will allow you to install other ROMs and will change that 'black screen' you mentioned into something useful.
Again, please go watch those videos. I recommend installing Andrwook first, it's a modified version of stock and works great. Also, be sure to go through the NVFLASH thread and do that when you feel comfortable with a more dangerous mod that can save your ass down the line.
Hi again,
Androwook installed just fine. First i wiped the cache and delvik cache and then just flashed the rom. I did it twice since i also tested the minimum and typical installations of Androowook. However i am impressed that all my docs are there and so is my game progress. Is there something i should but didn't wipe?
ZebTheCalvinist said:
It's the best one I've used. Just make sure to do all your wipes, and you'll be good to go. If you don't like it, you can always do a backup and flash Virtuous.
By the way, if you're flashing a lot of ROMs (or even one ROM) you'll want Titanium Backup Pro. It's well worth the $6 it costs in the market to be able to do batch restores of apps with all their data intact.
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By the way i backed up the previous rom with twrp. Is that ok?
Well, if you're not experiencing problems, you're probably fine, but it is strongly recommended that you do a factory reset before flashing a new ROM.
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Yeah I'm no stranger to Root just on this device. I finally got it into cwm but now when I try to back up I get an error. I have goo manager on my inspire but it always recovers using cwm do you think it will do a better job?
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jmikeb92 said:
Yeah I'm no stranger to Root just on this device. I finally got it into cwm but now when I try to back up I get an error. I have goo manager on my inspire but it always recovers using cwm do you think it will do a better job?
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Use goomanger to install TWRP. CWM is not fully compatible with the Prime at the moment for some reason, and you'll have issues.
I just rooted my Canadian Note, with some help from some awesome people here on XDA. And I was wondering if I can use Rom Manager, to backup, and restore my Note?
I did backups and restoring on my old HTC Desire HD, but I just wanna make sure that Roms Manager, supports my Note specifically.
If someone can confirm this, I'd be extremely grateful! ت
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
Adizzzle said:
I just rooted my Canadian Note, with some help from some awesome people here on XDA. And I was wondering if I can use Rom Manager, to backup, and restore my Note?
I did backups and restoring on my old HTC Desire HD, but I just wanna make sure that Roms Manager, supports my Note specifically.
If someone can confirm this, I'd be extremely grateful! ت
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
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you can...But
I've always prefered the recovery for a restore of backups, and to create them. Recovery is fool proof, and will provide the type of files it can read. but when using apps to perform a recovery function, the risk goes up.
Rom manager is a good app, but I have had issues with it in the past, and do not use it now....g
So all in all, its better to use CWM for backing up, and restoring, as apposed to using an app like "Rom Manager"?
Thanks again gregsarg. You've been super helpful!
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
Adizzzle said:
So all in all, its better to use CWM for backing up, and restoring, as apposed to using an app like "Rom Manager"?
Thanks again gregsarg. You've been super helpful!
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
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I believe so, yes...:good:
any time you rely on an app, to perform a function, you are relying on the build parameters of the app. and since there are sooooo many variables in software etc. you can get errors.
Recovery is a good choice for creating a solid backup...IMHO
Have you personally tried a back up using CWM on the Galaxy Note i717d? Just out of curiousity.
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Adizzzle said:
Have you personally tried a back up using CWM on the Galaxy Note i717d? Just out of curiousity.
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More times than you can count, on the SGH-I717 (ATT) and the N7000 (international) note.
CWM operation is the same for both....and they both run and restore well using this method....g
Everybody flashing the custom rom uses either CWM or TWRP to create backups before they flash.
If you rely on Rom Manager, and a rom goes bad (like they sometimes do), you won't be able to boot and use Rom Manager.
Recovery can be accessed even if your rom flash is bad.
and now you see the method to my madness.....
Use recovery, and life will be "much" better......g
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
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Adizzzle said:
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
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And I'll say it again. This is a perfect example of what XDA is about in my book. Everyone helping everyone make their devices better than they were when we bought them. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Adizzzle said:
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
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Always welcome ....g
Confused.
Okay, all of you here have totally confused me. I have used CWM Recovery for a while now and decided to try ROM Manager. As far as I can tell RM only allows you to flash CWM updates and collect information and input that info into CWM. I will say that the installation of CWM-Touch has an issue but that might be my own doing. I can live with the old version though.
ie: If you want to install a new ROM, you pick if from your SD card and RM boots you into CWM and it does its thing. You want to make a BU...? Just push that button and it boots into CWM and boom...its done. (It also asks you if you want to do the wipes.)
I can still do all this by booting into CWM manually without using RM...so I don't get why some of you say not to use it (ROM Manager.) It does the same thing but as far as I can tell it does not prevent or change Manual operation in CWM in any way.
I don't see the problem here. Please correct me if I'm wrong...and some theory too if you can.
Try running a CWM restore , using rom manager , when your phone won't boot due to a corrupt or incorrect flash....
The point is ...it isn't gonna happen...as rom manager is an onboard app.
And in my opinion, one that users depend on far to much....
We are simply eliminating that potential problem area ...but hey ...use it if you want....I'll use recovery ....g
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Try running a CWM restore , using rom manager , when your phone won't boot due to a corrupt or incorrect flash....
The point is ...it isn't gonna happen...as rom manager is an onboard app.
And in my opinion, one that users depend on far to much....
We are simply eliminating that potential problem area ...but hey ...use it if you want....I'll use recovery ....g
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Okay, maybe there is a mistake in terminology here.
My point is that you don't have to use Rom Manager to get into CWM Recovery. You can use it--or not...ie" If I can't get to CWM from the ROM, I just do the volume + - and power as usual. So I don't get "your" point. Once CWM is installed it can be accessed by either method. I have done it both ways with no issues so far. I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to understand what I might be missing.
When a new samsung phone is released to the public, the first thing developers do is try to change the stock 3e recovery with CWM so they can do the next step -- flash a rooted kernel. Two things we can't live wirhout.
Next, app developers step in and create apps that make the operating system more accessible -- like Rom Manager.
With the note, CWM (and now TWRP) and root came pretty fast after the release because it is very similar to all the Galaxy S phones. But Rom Manager didn't get done for a while, but in the meantime users installed it and borked their phones by overwriting CWM with recovery from other phones. When that got fixed, the nandroid feature didn't work either, so people experemented with roms without realizing they didn't have backups.
There are lots of people who never check a date of a thread and all that old stuff and outdated advice is still floating around causing havoc.
So like all threads helping someone troubleshoot their phone, you eliminate the known causes of trouble one step at a time.
Use what works for you.
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Okay, maybe there is a mistake in terminology here.
My point is that you don't have to use Rom Manager to get into CWM Recovery. You can use it--or not...ie" If I can't get to CWM from the ROM, I just do the volume + - and power as usual. So I don't get "your" point. Once CWM is installed it can be accessed by either method. I have done it both ways with no issues so far. I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to understand what I might be missing.
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Understood ...
I realize that CWM is accessed by rom manager, and I also understand that the device doesn't need it to access recovery.
As ranger said, it was risky at first to use RM , and it has since been repaired for the note.
My point is, rom manager is a step in the process that can stop folks from getting to recovery through the rom. (If the phone goes wonky) And you would be amazed at how many people can't manually boot to recovery.
My personal time spent with rom manager has caused me to "not " use it. My days on HTC were horrid with that app. And it has corrupted more than 1 recovery for me.
Of course , the choice is yours to use it .....it's okay, but a step that can cause huge problems....
And I encourage new users to learn the traditional method.....g
Many thanks to the two of you,very good answers. Sorry to push this but i have seen posts that say parts of what you said but never a good reason for their comments.
Thanks again.
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I'm glad to explain it. A history lesson is usually helpful.
I started with CWM but then switched to TWRP, they just released an update and you can get it from GooManager App. I like TWRP better.
The only catch is you cannot restore backups created by one recovery with the other. You will have to reflash the recovery who's backups you want to restore.