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Does this beast come with oleophobic coating, or is it just the bare screen?
JD
According to Eldar it does have an oleophobic coating
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
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You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
open1your1eyes0 said:
You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
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Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
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Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
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Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
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Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
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Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
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That's why there's voice control.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
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Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
I can honestly say that the standard for smartphone displays is decent enough that I definitly have a couple of priorities above the display that I wouldn't care how good the display is, if doesn't meet those priorities first, I don't want it. Key being carrier, cpu, ram, battery life, size/weight, brand/UI, then the display itself. Like I said, the standard for smartphones is good enough that it's not as important for me as long as a matte screen protector exists for the device (which is pretty much every smartphone). I have yet to meet a modern device display that I cannot tolerate under all conditions. And maybe its just me but I rarely find myself walking under direct sunlight. And even when I do, I try to avoid it (not because of my phone, just I have no joy in it XD).
Just my 2¢
Funkym0nkey said:
Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
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I agree, I think no matter what, I will be putting a screen protector on it. A company called "ScratchGuard" makes one that resists Oil and Fingerprints, maybe that might be the route, although it does reduce some of the screen's clarity.
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
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Ive allways used a screen protector tbh but im thinking with this device i dont need 1 as its gorilla glass right? i do think screen protectors ruin a phone slightly but its protection, Does this device need a protector or will it be fine without 1?
looking to buy the device on launch day sim-free so would be ideal to buy a protector before if i do need 1,
coming from iphone 4 i allways had to use 1 and it did get annoying and before that the desire hd which i had to use also but that screen isnt made of gorilla glass is it?
MikeyMike01 said:
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
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I have to. Cant take chances, I took one with Nexus S thanks to Oleophobic coating and kinda regretting it. I use lots of jeans. Many of them have those metal buttons / studs near pocket. I scratched my Nexus S a bit while taking it out of pocket when it scratched against that. Thankfully it was a micro scratch at the bottom and not on viewable area. Not to mention the bloody earrings of my lady friends and family members. My heart skips a beat when unprotected screen nears their ears
I wont take that chance again
But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
Uhm, and how can a screen protector ruin a phone?
Even if the phone features a gorilla glass, it doesn't guarantee it from being scratch-proof.
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But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
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A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
JD
JupiterDroid said:
A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
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Yeah your prob right
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Yeah your prob right
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When i sold my nexus s it was the same condition as when i brought it out of the shop In the house i use a cover to protect the back leaving the front open, and when im out and about i use a sock...
Show your phone some love;P
JD
its very true.. my omnia HD has also gorilla glass and I have it for a year and a half now and it was NEVER scratched... XD I even play with it, taking coins and start scratching the screen... lol.. I also make fun of the screen saying even with a knife its not sure the screen will be scratched..
and I DONT have a screen protector.
Ok, i just got my first scratch, never had it with SGS but here it is, and i always put it alone in my pocket.
So much advertising for what?
You didn't use a screenguard?
So do you think gorilla glass is scratch proof or just harder to scratch.
Is it deep or just the coating on top?
Suggest getting a screen protector maybe. I have one tiny scratch but could have been avoided with protection.
I remember life before gorilla glass.
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I was using the phone for a few days after i got it without a screen protector. I knew it was gorilla glass and stuff, but something inside kept gnawing me about getting a screen protector.
Just buy a screen protector and have that mental peace.
Better safe than sorry
Gorrila baby skin
G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
Yep, got a tiny scratch as well out of seemingly no where.. it's definitely more fragile than my partners iPhone 4 which gets yanked in and out of her handbag daily vs my careful nurturing
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
Well,that sucks.
Still scratch free here without protector
On milestone and droid 2 global gorila glass I never had a scratch having each one about a year and with no screen protector at all...
Maybe the cover for not having so many finger prints can make gorilla glass less "gorila" on SGS2?
Cheers
buxz777 said:
certain particles will scratch gorilla glas quite easy like sand and dust . yes thats right even dust can contain quartz and sand particles both of which are hard sunstances so dust wiped on your screen while polishing can lead to scratches on the gorilla glass
info on just dust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust and thats without pocket/bag stuff that could have collected over time , sand etc
here a user fixed his scratches to gorilla glass but it sounds risky to me
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/moto-droid/114659-gorilla-glass-does-scratch-but-i-know-how-repair.html
another user here takes it even further and uses an abrasive by the looks of it then polishes it out after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129
hope you find a soloution mate i always use a screen protector just for peace of mind you can get some great ones check out the screen protector thread in the forum
have a good weekend
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even the iphone4 can scratch quite easily http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ip...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
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Dammit, yesterday i went to the beach with the phone, sand may be the reason of the scratch
I already have a screen protector, but i didn't set it because there was no reason to me, now i got one
Yeah, I scratched mine too but I've kind of got used to it. It's a little annoying I guess.
Anyway, suppose it's a bit like shutting the door now the horse has bolted but might as well get a protector. Don't they change the feel of the screen though? I've always thought they might be kind of annoying.
As a user of both sgs and sgs2, I find the Gorilla glass on sgs2 to be far superior in every department
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You folks are aware that no one ever said gorilla glass is hard as a diamond, right?
In fact, no substantial claims about it's hardness were *ever* made. It's supposed to have a better tensile strength and be less breakable, not harder.
In fact, the treatment it gets plus the oleophobic coatings and whatnot might even make it more susceptible to scratching than regular glass.
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily. I made money repairing the hd2 because it couldn't take a bump.
ecce said:
G.glass it;s just junk name for user make it more atractive.
As a user HD2 i hate gorrila non glass,Prefer no scrachtes!
Goriila glass is maybe not easy to damage but it's like baby skin!
3m with sgs2 screen glass is messy and my HD2 2y old is scretch free and never broken.
It's a ****y product and it's not for pocket!
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You were one of the lucky few with your hd2. I've never seen a screen shatter so easily.
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Shatter or scratch?
There IS a difference, you know.
Hardness and (tensile) strength aren't the same thing.
And they're usually inversely proportional.
Materials that have a high hardness (resistance to scratching) are usually VERY brittle.
Materials that have a high tensile strength (resistance to breaking) are usually VERY scratchable.
Well,everything is destroyable in therm of a bad usage,even this "mighty" glass.The real example is Titanic,the unsinkable ship in my a..
I also have very small scratches, there was nothing in my pocket when it happened!
My SGS was stronger, but the SGSII's screen is sweeter!
I decided to buy a brando screen protector, as far as i know they're washable
The sooner i receive my screen protector the better, im ultra careful not to have anything else in my pocket like keys or coins when then phone is there in case i do get a scratch,so far so good but after spending all that cahs on this phone it's important to get a screen protector.
This is one of the weak points with our phone, "hard"ware wise.
I also got a small scratch from putting it in my pocket without anything else. Compared I never got a protector for my old smart phone (competitor brand and os ) and only a few small scratches in some years, I was a bit disappointed.
Though, that scratch isn't that bad, and now that my protective foil arrived it can be neither seen nor felt.
But: Without the cheap foil the "feeling" was better
Still, I like my new phone
Samsung Galaxy S II has been designed with Gorilla Glass?No need of Screen Guard?
I have seen 2 sites saying Samsung Galaxy S II has been designed with Gorilla Glass so I want to make sure. http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-sii-gorilla-glass-confirmed-20110503/ Lost another site link.is that true?
Of course SGS II has Gorilla Glass. But I am still really confused that it will or will not need a screen protector! I really don't like them but I think it's better to have one rather than scratching that beautiful 4.27" screen. What do you guys think?
Thanks for putting that link up.
ithehappy said:
Of course SGS II has Gorilla Glass. But I am still really confused that it will or will not need a screen protector! I really don't like them but I think it's better to have one rather than scratching that beautiful 4.27" screen. What do you guys think?
Thanks for putting that link up.
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OK Thanks and I think it is 100% better getting a screen Protector for safety.It is better to get a Rs.100-500 screen guard instead of spending money on a screen after getting scratch on the screen.I am using 1 already and kept 1 as spare
Scratches WILL occur on gorilla glass, but they are less likely to be seenwhen compared to other screens.
So buy a screen protector.
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Raviteja_HYD said:
OK Thanks and I think it is 100% better getting a screen Protector for safety.It is better to get a Rs.100-500 screen guard instead of spending money on a screen after getting scratch on the screen.I am using 1 already and kept 1 as spare
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Hmm..I already ordered the 2nd one from Scratchgard.in, Rs.499, so it's costly, still I've read a lot of users posting that they didn't use any screen protector for more than one year wit GG and also they used it roughly, still no scratches on it. Yes I know Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant but not proof.
I'd like some users to post here who are not using any protective screen and post feedback here, if there is any scratches appearing or not.
Regards.
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I'd like some users to post here who are not using any protective screen and post feedback here, if there is any scratches appearing or not.
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There's already a LOT of threads talking about this exact topic. Yes, gorilla glass is tougher than your average glass, but it's not scratch-proof, so I personally don't see the point in taking the risk. Gorilla glass can and will get scratched.
Get a screen protector and never have to worry about scratches, or don't get one and always worry.
Guys i can highly recommend getting this screen protector you really cannot tell that you even have a protecter on your screen,after paying all that money for this phone im not taking any chances.
top service and fast delivery too...
http://cgi.ebay.ie/SGP-Ultra-Oleoph...292190?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0ab0b3de
I have had my nexus one for about a year and it has a Gorilla Glass screen. I don't have a screen protector on and I have dropped it several times on asphalt and other surfaces and I don't have any scratches on my screen. I am waiting for the SGS2 to come out on sprint (hopefully) and I won't be bothering with a screen protector.
Thanks, but late for me, my bad.
atomb said:
I have had my nexus one for about a year and it has a Gorilla Glass screen. I don't have a screen protector on and I have dropped it several times on asphalt and other surfaces and I don't have any scratches on my screen. I am waiting for the SGS2 to come out on sprint (hopefully) and I won't be bothering with a screen protector.
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good for you but id be more "better to be safe than sorry" and for a few quid for a screen protector like the Ultra Olephobic which you wouldn't even notice it was on i believe it's definitely worth getting.
Does the SGP ultra... have problems with air bubbles or orange skin?
I tried a couple of screen protectors with both nexus s and gs2 and I think I'm more bothered by bubbles and orange skin then scratches
I read in quite a few posts about light scratches, most probably due to the anti-fingerprint coating on the glass. But I wont get a screen protector. In the WM times with resistive screens you had to get one because the screens could get scratches with just your fingernail or the stylus, but they all (even the expensive ones) looked bad. So on my HD2 I didn't bother with a screen protector and don't regret it because after over 1,5 years of intensive use (otherwise it was in my pocket or on the stone floor besides my bed) without any cases or screen protectors, my HD2 doesn't even have one single scratch (and I mean the whole device). I just had to remove the paint of the battery cover because it came off on the edges where I hold it, but I would have done that anyway because it looks better, as you can see in this thread. I hope my SGS2 proves to be as good as my HD2.
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top service and fast delivery too...
http://cgi.ebay.ie/SGP-Ultra-Oleoph...292190?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0ab0b3de
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thanks for sharing this link, I have never used a sp until now and no scratches, but I will make sure to get one, just to be on the safe side
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namelok said:
Does the SGP ultra... have problems with air bubbles or orange skin?
I tried a couple of screen protectors with both nexus s and gs2 and I think I'm more bothered by bubbles and orange skin then scratches
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No it doesn't, honestly i can barely tell mine is on it really is that good just take time to apply it properly there are videos on XDA which are useful regarding this, i did read reviews beforehand and most were favourable but after applying it i really am impressed with it, scrolling is still as smooth as ever,sure you'll get fingerprints and smudge marks but you'd get that on the screen anyway just wipe it off.
maranello69 said:
thanks for sharing this link, I have never used a sp until now and no scratches, but I will make sure to get one, just to be on the safe side
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No problem by the way i seen your signature "can you help"
this might be of some interest to you if you haven't seen it already.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104051
Even though it says that the screen is scratch resistant, I wouldn't take the chance. When I got my SGSII, I went ahead and searched for a pouch and a screen protector. Money well spent!
I have it from 1 month ago, without any protector a no scratches. I transport my SGS2 in my pocket always.
For those of you who say that they aren't worried about their phone scratching because its always in their pocket, I would still recommend you getting one, purely because of the fact that Gorilla Glass is vulnerable to SAND and DUST. Sand particles have a very high hardness rating exceeding that of Gorilla glass, so it will carve up your pretty little phone without a care in the world. Simply wiping the screen cover with a cloth that has a particle of sand on it, can scratch the screen, not to mention the original oleophobic coating Samsung put over the Gorilla Glass, which itself is very vulnerable.
I can also vouch for the SGP Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protector. Hands down the best balance of everything a screen protector should have. I've used some no name brands, the Zagg ones as well as the SGP Ultra Crystal one before, and none can compare.
The SGP Ultra Oleophobic beats the Ultra Crystal hands-down simply because it repels oil much better, and can be cleaned with one wipe of a shirt or cloth. On the other hand, the ultra crystal clings to fingerprints and oil like a fat kid to a candy bar.
Both however, exhibit zero rainbow effects, air bubbles or orange peel effects. For about 30 minutes after putting the oleophobic one on, there is a bit of rubbery/slightly sticky feeling on the protector, but it goes away after some use or a bit of cleaning with a microfibre cloth. I'd also recommend not applying the protector on vertically, from speaker to microphone, but rather, from left to right. It is MUCH easier to align this way, and much easier to retry if you messed up the first time.
I've had many people who've played with my phone ask me why I don't bother putting on a screen protector, and when I tell them to look again, they are genuinely surprised they didn't realize it was there.
TL;DR: get a screen protector, because sand (which is actually harder than gorilla glass) and dust can and WILL scratch your screen eventually. also, SGP Ultra Oleophobic beats everything else hands down.
I think Sammy will send the gorilla glass as OTA update when Android Weedcake 2.5.5 hits the market sometime in the distant future.
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well well well talk about fate,there is a scratch on the screen and i only put the ultra olephobic screen protector on yesterday initially i thought it was a hair but it's a very small scratch so im even more pleased now i had this on otherwise id have a scratch, thankfully you get 2 screen protectors so i can just replace this one.
Ok I have removed my screen protector that was pre-installed on the Xperia S and it has seemed to go okay for me. I wanted to write a little guide to inform others incase they have been thinking of doing it.
Pros:
Capacitive buttons are much more responsive. I usually get them every time now.
No more little edge at the top of the clear section. I hated how there was a sharp edge caused by the screen protector when I went to swipe the buttons. No problem with it now.
Screen is more responsive to touch.
The phone looks better. No dust gets in the screen protector edges and the screen looks a little clearer.
Cons:
The screen is not as protected against scratches or falls.
The screen gets VERY dirty quickly. Be prepared to rub it off all the time as fingerprints seem to slime up the screen quickly. I guess they didn't use an oleophobic coating to reduce the dirt and grime. It's not a deal breaker, but it sure as hell is annoying.
The proximity sensor is much easier to trigger, so when you are using it and it goes over the sensor it will quickly turn off the screen.
There is a slight gummy sensation left over by the screen protector residue. It will dissipate after some time but it can be really annoying. Use some alcohol and a coarse rag to get it off sooner.
I prefer the feel of the screen protector to the screen itself. The screen seems to not be as smooth but maybe there is still some residue left over.
Sidenote:
I have dropped the phone from 3 feet onto industrial thin carpet and it is still okay even without the shatter proof sheet. Remember that almost every phone will have problems if you drop it onto a hard surface and it lands on the edges.
The screen material seems to be very resistant to scratches. I have a defective unit that is being returned so I decided to do a couple tests on it before sending it back in. I used a key to scratch the screen in the corner. First I tried a light scratch and then I tried a medium pressure scratch. Neither of these showed a mark. Even a pretty heavy pressure did not leave a mark. I am pretty satisfied with the results though I imagine if you used a sharp edge and a lot of pressure it would scratch it. Better than I had thought though, Gorilla glass is overrated anyways.
Let me know if you have more questions.
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To remove the screen protector, just use fingernails and pry it up near the bottom, top of the clear bar. Once you get a piece peeled up, grab it firmly and pull the rest off. If it is still really hard heat the screen with a hairdryer for a second or two and it will loosen the glue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26467442&postcount=64
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I took mine off with no regrets, the sticky does wear off.
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I don't believe that post to be correct, Sony support site has stated you can remove it and be just fine. You just won't have that extra layer of protection. I have dropped mine without the shatter proof sheet and it is fine. I'd like to see some proof about how much security the "shatter proof" sheet will add. Even after reading that post, I feel that the shatter proof sheet is just an added piece of marketing so that people will not complain as much by the lack of gorilla glass. Sony would have put Gorilla Glass in the phone if they thought it was necessary and made the warranty void if you removed the sheet, but they did neither.
The shatter proof sheet makes the screen feel terrible. I will never use mine. I never had a screen protector on my HTC Hero and I never had a problem.
The most optimal thing to do is remove the shatter proof sheet and add a screen protector to help deal with the oils and dirt from your hands.
If you worry that much about shattering your screen then get a SquareTrade warranty.
Maybe you are right but I don't think they put this sheet just for decoration,i remember they did also for the X10 and I remove it in this time but the screen get less responsive.It's some kind of protection against scratching.
I will never remove it,that's only my opinion.
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gm007 said:
Maybe you are right but I don't think they put this sheet just for decoration,i remember they did also for the X10 and I remove it in this time but the screen get less responsive.It's some kind of protection against scratching.
I will never remove it,that's only my opinion.
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The shatter proof sheet scratches easier than the mineral glass. Like I listed above, I tested scratches the raw screen with keys at different pressures and I got nothing. Mineral glass is damn hard and Sony is supposed to use a special type.
It's your call though, I am just trying to add some info for others.
Also there is no reason for removing the sheet to make it less responsive since you are actually removing another layer which is getting between your actions and the digitizer, it doesn't work that way.
I don't know why the screen get less responsive,maybe the glue can't be removed easily.
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I don't know why the screen get less responsive,maybe the glue can't be removed easily.
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That could be it, I hated the feel first off. Used some goo gone and alcohol and it cleaned it right up. The thing that makes mine feel worse after removing it is the oils and dirt stick like mad to the raw screen. Im gonna put a really thin one on just to protect from that, but I am glad I removed that terribly think one.
I agree that the most annoying thing if you dont use screen protector is fingerprint/oil smudge
I took it off aswell and hated the feel of the pure glass... Just too sticky and the fingerprints nearly made me crazy so i put on a normal 1
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i notice that without that screen protector you will have unresponsive touch when charging from usb or wall or even with headphone plugged in.... i just ordered a zagg invisible ^_^
mrsatan said:
I guess they didn't use an oleophobic coating to reduce the dirt and grime. It's not a deal breaker, but it sure as hell is annoying.
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Cant be used with a screen protector. On phones that do have the oleophobic coating, putting on a screen protector makes it useless because as soon as you remove the protector the coating would also be removed with it.
It's just that a phone shouldnt have a factory applied protector it's ridiculous. I myself never use a screen protector and probably will never.
This post might sound funny but for quite a few days, I actually had a Matte screen protector over the screen protector preinstalled by Sony. I actually had no idea it was even there until I found a post on XDA about the same and then checked the earpiece region and then, *facepalm*
A few notes from that, the screen was still responsive and I actually liked it better than the Arc S one. The capacitive buttons weren't responding as well and I didn't like it initially but once the useless matte protector was off, everything was as smooth as butter. I personally like to have an additional layer of protection just as a safeguard. Gives me more sense of security (even though there isn't much).
drigerott said:
i notice that without that screen protector you will have unresponsive touch when charging from usb or wall or even with headphone plugged in.... i just ordered a zagg invisible ^_^
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I have never had that problem with mine removed. Why that would happen does not make any sense anyways.
mrsatan said:
I have never had that problem with mine removed. Why that would happen does not make any sense anyways.
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just search unresponsive screen on xda you will find hundred treadh about this problem
drigerott said:
just search unresponsive screen on xda you will find hundred treadh about this problem
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What I meant was why would removing the laminate sheet make the buttons less responsive. Mine are MUCH more responsive without it and I have forgotten about the complaints leveled against the capacitive buttons because of it.
mrsatan said:
What I meant was why would removing the laminate sheet make the buttons less responsive. Mine are MUCH more responsive without it and I have forgotten about the complaints leveled against the capacitive buttons because of it.
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He is speaking about the screen not the buttons
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The shatter proof sheet scratches easier than the mineral glass
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Lol that's why Sony bundles a screen protector, to protect the shatter proof sheet from scratching.
Your SUPPOSED to have two layers, the lower layer protects from shattering and the upper layer with the screen protector of your choice protects from scratching.
All this talk of you telling people to take off something using goo gone on a brand new phone is ludicrous. Just install the screen protector provided over the laminate sheet as soon as you take it out of the box as Sony designed it and be done with it.
I'm reading all this and was kinda kept by surprise for hearing for the first time about this sheet, since I can't find it on my XS. Is it possible that my unit came without this shatter-protection-layer-sheet-thingy?
Look closer to the edges
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I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Old topic here on the forum. Yes you probably should think about buying a screenprotector if you going to use a pen. Its an ordinary plastic sheet on the screen molded on and it will get scratched VERY easy. Also the oleofobic coating will wear off with time. In about three months you are going to notice the sheet getting more of a rough texture where you push and swipe your fingers often.
I would say that the stock screen protector has very a low quality in terms of its lifetime and ability to resist scratches.
Examples of quality screen protector:
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
and
http://glass4m.com/collections/sony/products/glass-m-sony-xperia
About the GadgetShieldz. I have never heard of this company before. But its the same bull**** crap salesman promises that its "precision manufactured" and "scratch proof" that you see all around Ebay and small websites out there on the interweb.
Its a plastic sheet okay. Enough of the bragging about the so said quality. Plastic is plastic. Or vinyl or whatever it is.
If you want a screen protector. Try out a solid sheet of glass. Like the ones I linked above or if you find something promising out there.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot. No a screen protector will for the most not disturb the ability to discover pen input. And If you do notice that input skips now and then you can always modify the sensitivity of the touch panel by editing a text file
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Thanks a ton friend. Firstly, I have been using GadgetShieldz for about 5 years now. On different phones, it has performed beyond my expectations. However, my question was simply this, that will I need a screen protector, to which I've got my reply, Yes.
And secondly, will using a protector hinder in use of a pen. To which you said, No. But would like if someone using GadgetShieldz replies with their feedback.
But thanks a lot..
I have no experience with the gadgetsheildz so can not comment but i have the Mocolo glass protector (from Superusers link above) on both the front and back of my ZU. My ZU already had a few tiny scratches on the original ASF which have now all but vanished with the mocolo glass in place.
However after testing with both pen and pencil and a coin to test the screenwrite input ability (All worked well and recognition was pretty smooth) the mocolo appears to have picked up a few micro scratches around the area i tested. I Cant be sure what caused it to scratch but i decided to not to use anything other than my finger for input and the write/text input isnt a feature i use much.
Other things i noticed are that although the ZU is huge and can be rather awkward to hold on occasion, i found with the front and back glass applied it has become "more" awkward as it now feels so slippy when holding and it definately moves around the table top a bit too freely for my liking...
Also consider the weight. With both sheets of glass in place there is a definite increase in the overall weight of the device. Many will say the increase is negligible but i find coupled with slippy hand feel, the slightly heavier package just adds to the overall awkwardness of the device.
However there is peace of mind knowing the original glass underneath is well protected :fingers-crossed:
I'm sure these issues could be rectified with the use of a gel case on back which i am considering as my ZU looks amazing and the above glass protector fits like a glove but the phone feels more fragile/vulnerable than before.
My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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My backside has cracked. And I like it. Because it shows that my mocolo did the job it was designed to. :good: I might buy a new set later on. It has not affect my user experience because there are no sharp ends or pieces of glass that can hurt me.
What I like about it is that it makes the z ultra rigid and more durable. Without the sheets I can easily bend my device so I just find it positive to have the sheets. And I just love the extra weight and feeling of glass
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When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
Con500 said:
When you say the back has cracked do you mean the glass underneath the protector has cracked, or has the mocolo glass cracked?
The worry is the front underside glass cracking which from all accounts renders the device non functional to any touch.
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The backside mocolo glass has cracked :good:
a question about screen
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
sandeep_bharaj said:
Hello everyone,
This is my first post here. I have ordered Z Ultra which will be delivered most probably tomorrow. After ordering i read so many complaints about the screen self breaking problem in Xperia Z series and Sony is not covering it in warranty. I am confuse whether to keep the phone or should i return it. Or is there any way to save or protect the screen. Will applying tempered glass protector solve the problem. People has complained screen cracks even after few days of purchase. I am worried about it, dont want to waste my hard earned money
Please suggest guys about the protector.
Thanks in advance.
Sandeep Bharaj
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
I put an illumishield screen protector over the stock screen, because of what I read about scratches. So screen protectors are from and back.
Getting the DSC-QX10 lens, so I got the adapter SPA-ACX3 for XZ. Lens locks onto the back of mobile ? Phone .
Plus, I wrap my XZ in a microfiber cloth , and carry in my messenger bag, with NFC Bluetooth headphones .
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If you keep it out of your trousers pockets and not placing it where it can be bent (Yes the Z ultra can be bent very easy) .i.e. for example between your doorkeys and heavy books in your bag or tight pockets in your skinny jeans. Or subjecting your device to fast temperature changes for example from direct sunlight indoors to minus degrees winter outdoors and vice versa. Keep it in your pocket to ease the temperature change etc.
Think about the phone like its a glass oven baking dish because it has two safety glass sheets and addition to that it has air trapped inside it because the Z ultra is waterproof or at some level at least (1meter/30min?)
If you are careful where you put it then you don't have to worry that the screen might self crack. I hope I did not scare you now.. :silly:
I have not had an issue with my screen yet at least so you can relax
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Thanks alot for the reply
I am using it since 4 days with all possible precautions. I havnt put it in my jeans pocket yet. Carrying it in shirt's pocket all the time
Secondly i get in insured :thumbup:
If in case its screen breaks, i ll get something from inssurance company.. actualy phone is really good at d price i got so didnt returned..
Thanks for d suggestions, i ll take care about the temprature change.. will avoid sudden temperatures..
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I wish I didn't listen to the people that told me I didn't need on for the i9100. I had to live with that scratch for nearly 15 months.
Got one from day one with this, and will do for all future phones until I can trust there won't be a single scratch over the life of the phone.
screen protector..
X0LARIUM said:
I am planning to buy a GadgetShieldz complete body protection. The question is does Z U need it? And if I put a screen protector will the pencil write properly on the screen?
Thanks!
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yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
jsonexe said:
yes.. you need that... i would prevent you screen from scratches.. z ultra is not protected by corning gorilla glass or something.. its just a shatter proof glass.. so its better to buy a screen protector
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Got onE!!