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Okay, here it goes. I was trying to get my phone to return to stock, because i had a problem with rooted phone. So, i was looking for Firmware for Returning to Stock. and i found one, and used Odin3 to force update with the firmware,then i turned on my phone... and the screen said AT&T WORLD***** or W/E!!!!... i accidently downloaded AT&T Galaxy S Captivate's firmware... and now i cant go to 'Reset Factory Mode' or 'Downloading Mode'. can anyone help me? if i just can go to downloading mode, i can fix this. is there anyway to auto-goto downloading mode when you insert USB? like un-screwing the phone and doing something? i can take any-risk to fix this. thank you
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You have a nice paperwieght
Why did you not follow the stickied thread in this forum? It was that easy.
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have fun with your super amoled paperweight
Sorry bud.. More than likely even if we could flash back the correct firmware, bml12 was probably overwritten, and we can't replace that, so you'd have a device that won't even use the cell radio.
Best bet is to disconnect the wire to the screen internally so that nothing appears on boot up, then take it back to Verizon.
People who can't read simple instructions shouldn't have their errors subsidized -- and especially not by fraud.
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People who can't read simple instructions shouldn't have their errors subsidized -- and especially not by fraud.
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Do you have a newsletter we could subscribe to? Your technical insight and willingness to help is amazing. Would love to read more.
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Do you have a newsletter we could subscribe to? Your technical insight and willingness to help is amazing. Would love to read more.
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Really? ...and *that* helps??
Let's not start sniping at people just because their opinion of a suggestion is different than ours...
Please?
If his post is any indication, he would very much have liked to help prevent this device from being bricked and returned to VZW....had such a solution been possible.
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Really? ...and *that* helps??
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No, what helped was my post on how he could handle the situation from this point forward, which I think is a reasonable suggestion given his situation.
The person I quoted didn't offer any advice.
Let's not start sniping at people just because their opinion of a suggestion is different than ours...
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I'll assume your post wasn't "sniping" at me then, and move along.
Hello, my Atrix is a Hard brick someone can recommend where to buy of factory cable?.
Thanks
Alex
alaxarias said:
Hello, my Atrix is a Hard brick someone can recommend where to buy of factory cable?.
Thanks
Alex
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Even if you do have a recovery cable, you won't be able to recover your Atrix, since noone knows how to recover via NVflash except for Motorola.
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Even if you do have a recovery cable, you won't be able to recover your Atrix, since noone knows how to recover via NVflash except for Motorola.
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I wonder if Motorola would ever be interested in revealing how to do it? I suppose it would save them money in the long run.. We've had them unlock the bootloader, so maybe this is worth a shot?
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I wonder if Motorola would ever be interested in revealing how to do it? I suppose it would save them money in the long run.. We've had them unlock the bootloader, so maybe this is worth a shot?
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Just had to say I see you are from Oldmeldrum..................Aberdeen is my hometown.............jus' a wee bittie doon thae road, ken fit ah mean?
blackalice said:
I wonder if Motorola would ever be interested in revealing how to do it? I suppose it would save them money in the long run.. We've had them unlock the bootloader, so maybe this is worth a shot?
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I was wondering the same thing. They made an official statement that they are willing to unlock the BL, so they can follow the same road and release the SBKs also who knows...
Guys, they didn't officially unlock the bootloader. BL was unlocked by pulling a test build off their servers. I guarantee they didn't intend this.
Motorola fails even with OS updates, so I wouldn't except them helping the developers in any way. Especially disclosing proprietary SBKs.
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Just had to say I see you are from Oldmeldrum..................Aberdeen is my hometown.............jus' a wee bittie doon thae road, ken fit ah mean?
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Och aye! Nae far from here! ;D
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Guys, they didn't officially unlock the bootloader. BL was unlocked by pulling a test build off their servers. I guarantee they didn't intend this.
Motorola fails even with OS updates, so I wouldn't except them helping the developers in any way. Especially disclosing proprietary SBKs.
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I agree, but there was a thread here some time ago quoting a marketing director of Motorola with ETAs regarding the bootloader unlock
You need SBK to be of any use. I very seriously doubt that moto will ever release the SBK. They really don't have any justified reason to. There is no justification for demanding them to release it. They can simply say that everyone is responsible for their own modifications of the device, and that they hold no responsibility.
According to rumor, Moto themselves either can't, or is unwilling to fix the hard bricks. People sending them in for coverage under service plans are getting completely new phones, not having their phones fixed.
My hope
Has anyone tried whit the factory cable and this? briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
It may be a solution, please if anyone has tried this with the factory cable that can tell us, works or not?
I feel guilty for damaging the Atrix my brother, now has the old Nokia while I can solve your problem but this seems to have no solution, my Atrix is perfect, works well.
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Alex
alaxarias said:
Has anyone tried whit the factory cable and this? briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
It may be a solution, please if anyone has tried this with the factory cable that can tell us, works or not?
I feel guilty for damaging the Atrix my brother, now has the old Nokia while I can solve your problem but this seems to have no solution, my Atrix is perfect, works well.
Thanks,
Alex
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Alex, that link is unrelated. That was early on in the atrix world and the SBFs became used to fix soft bricks. We've evolved way past that link. Unfortunately at this time there is no fix for the hard brick even with a factory cable. The author of that article himself was one of the hard bricks who had to get a new phone.
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Thanks guys, i hope help some day....
I'm going to jump back to the original topic of this feed, does anyone know where to buy a factory cable? I know it's possible to make one, but I dont solder so does anyone know where to buy one, or a way to make one without soldering?
I would say if you can't use a soldering iron the easiest way would bet either stripping the wires twisting them together and wrap them with electrical tape or using a Wire Connector (You can buy them at almost every store that sells hardware equipment.)
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Hello, my Atrix is a Hard brick someone can recommend where to buy of factory cable?.
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*** Edit 4 - it's the weekend so nothing happens on the weekend, wish I had more info for you guys. I updated because I see you guys keep bumping it and figured (I like to see anyway) if there is a status update regardless of if there is new info or not. It's nice to see someone is still "doing something". So the update for today is: I'm doing "something" but alas it is "waiting"
*** Edit 3 - Talked to a guy on their dev team today. He's getting permission to release the FXZ files for me. He's onboard, the rest is up to the flagpole (which is unlikely in my opinion, but I still have not been told no so hey)
*** Edit 2 - Still no word, will follow up with both contacts tomorrow. The word of the day is "Pest".
****EDIT update: I just got off the phone with another contact. Someone from the Motorola Dev team is going to get back with me. I was told that they are planning to release the FXZ files, and possibly there might be a situation where I could be allowed to release them. If this is so then I would do it through our publication's website (obviously traffic to our site is a nice thing, and I hope you guys respect that and link to us instead of reposting them). If not, I might be able to get them early. I would not be able to release them but I could possibly (depending on the agreement I would have to sign to get them early) be able to answer questions about them. We will see. I've really tried to go to the mat on this one so hopefully we'll get some progress. The good news is they are definitely going to release them regardless, and she told me typically it's about a month after release, (as we saw with the Bionic [i guess]).
I just used my press wand to make a request for the fastboot files for the Razr. No promises, but I wasn't told no. I'm waiting on a call back. The request will likely either be ignored or not granted, but I'm trying to help as well.
The reason I posted this is a) to let you guys know that I did this, and b) I honestly don't know which files I need if I'm asked for specific detail by the person that is supposed to call me back. So if someone who knows could tell me _exactly_ what I need to ask for (ASAP) that would be great. I'm expecting a call shortly.
From DroidTh3ory: 'It is the FXZ files. They are stored and accessed VIA RSS.'
I am crossing my fingers nd praying for u to have luck. Just to add maybe easier to say factory restore file for droid razr. The files format is FXZ found via RSS
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I am crossing my fingers nd praying for u to have luck. Just to add maybe easier to say factory restore file for droid razr. The files format is FXZ found via RSS
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Thank you both for your fast response. Still no word. I'll be following up with them shortly regardless; being a pest is rewarded occassionally.
Good luck to you, you may hold the hope of getting some ROMs for this thing.
No pressure.
Dont put to much pressure on him Steve...jk. Thanks for your update. The vzw droid razr community would be so happy. Hoping for the best. I am really thankful for u spending your time to help this community. I hope the best for your website. Please keep use posted, if u can. Thank u
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****EDIT update: I just got off the phone with another contact. Someone from the Motorola Dev team is going to get back with me. I was told that they are planning to release the FXZ files, and possibly there might be a situation where I could be allowed to release them. If this is so then I would do it through our publication's website (obviously traffic to our site is a nice thing, and I hope you guys respect that and link to us instead of reposting them). If not, I might be able to get them early. I would not be able to release them but I could possibly (depending on the agreement I would have to sign to get them early) be able to answer questions about them. We will see. I've really tried to go to the mat on this one so hopefully we'll get some progress. The good news is they are definitely going to release them regardless, and she told me typically it's about a month after release, (as we saw with the Bionic [i guess]).
I just used my press wand to make a request for the fastboot files for the Razr. No promises, but I wasn't told no. I'm waiting on a call back. The request will likely either be ignored or not granted, but I'm trying to help as well.
The reason I posted this is a) to let you guys know that I did this, and b) I honestly don't know which files I need if I'm asked for specific detail by the person that is supposed to call me back. So if someone who knows could tell me _exactly_ what I need to ask for (ASAP) that would be great. I'm expecting a call shortly.
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What about a full sbf files?
that's what the FXZ would be.
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What about a full sbf files?
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SBF is no longer used. They switched with either the DX2 or Bionic (don't remember which it was)
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SBF is no longer used. They switched with either the DX2 or Bionic (don't remember which it was)
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Yeah... I had the bionic... With the fzx files.... But we couldn't down grade the kernels/radios... One or the other.. I think... Lol.. Regardless razr is way better.. But I will sat this.. I did get better points on my bionic on cfbench t hen my razr... But then again.. My razr doesn't reboot, radio is better, doesn't get the black screen of death either which requires a battery pull... And my buttons on the bottom are all the same color and not faded or lighter then one or the other.. My bionic was garbage lol... And t his screen just can't be beat.. Love it..
although it is questionable that fastboot says "SBF" and not FXZ.
Bump^ man I hope this happens.. I'm really expecting it to not happen... BUT I AM REALLY REALLY HOPING IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN... Sure would be nice to have something for Christmas time
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I say a bird bird bird... Birds the word.... PEST A WAY MY GOOD FRIEND.. PEST LIKE TODAY IS THE LAST DAY of your pesting life... Lol.. You could make a ton of peoples day...
Bump, fingers, toes, eyes crossed.
I would love to see this happen!
Man I hope this happens I just wonder how many devs r waiting for this to start pushing out roms
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bleh @ the decision going to higherups. *crosses fingers*
O man I got a feeling this is gonna happen I'm still crossing everything I mean everything <----weird : '
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To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Yeah, it is definitely a possibility that that is the case. The whole reason I posted this is because it has been so long since we heard anything from either of them.
Perhaps they have been PMing instead of going at it in a thread since it was such a heated discussion before.
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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true, but I'm also thinking that this may be possible, that this could be the way to unlock the bootloader without having to buy another phone. Maybe i'm being too optimistic about this, but that's just how I feel, and how I was raised. Maybe this has to do with me being screwed over by a girl I was in love with because she moved onto her "high school sweetheart," and me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but that's just life. I'm trying to get the best out of my phone until I can upgrade to the GNex or the next best thing, but as of right now, I'm going to see this to the end and if that means I'm going to get hurt again "over a phone" then so be it. I'm going into this to optimistic, too involved, but oh well, that's me not you.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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It was in the BBB Complaint thread by Litetaker on page 11, it goes off for about 9 pages and then gets back on topic.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Because of that 1% nobody knows if she is right or wrong. NOBODY. You cannot say she is wrong without knowing the facts yourself and why not hold onto that glimmer of hope, if you read the original post I did ask for opinions, but I did not ask for your opinion on the validity of threads.
I see that you agree that this is most likely false, but it was taking up a lot of space in a different thread and I for one am interested enough to try to find out more.
I told everyone I am willing to attempt all of the tests once the soak/actuall update come out so if we can unlock the bootloader before that even happens I would be in heaven, I hate Moto Blur....
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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You are correct, I am hoping she is right and that it is an exe and we can somehow apply it to the X2.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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I hear you, I am so tired of this things lag and other massive issues
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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I sent her a PM this morning, hopefully we get an answer sometime today.
"I'm getting too old for this ****".
Its been almost a year since release and they've been yanking us around. The only way I'll have an unlocked phone anytime soon is if I get a free one from my complaint to BBB.
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Dunno who that coulda been
I may have gone a little overboard with the flaming, but she hit a nerve. Not getting into it again, just wanted to apologize.
Nah, I'm kidding. Good riddance.
Even ignoring the insults between myself and her, I don't think it's debatable at this point whether or not she's a troll (or equally possible: horribly, horribly confused).
I think my summary from that thread summed it up pretty efficiently.
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So let me recap.
We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.
Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.
So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.
Alright, let's move on.
So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!
And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.
K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Are you serious you post a thread asking for peoples opinions on this and then you want me to not post because you don't like my opinion, or because it isn't what you intended for people to post? What you posted in your thread left this open for discussion. My opinion is its complete BS. Like someone said if we get an unlocked boot loader someone will have the tool or the means and post it. Not dance around answers and complain about migraines. Why even feed into it?
Also yes I do have a gnex but I still have my x2 and use it frequently at home. I too want an unlocked bootloader.
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So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
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So this is going to sound odd, but hear me out. I like many of you got the ME7 update. On sunday I tried rerooting and reflashing. Soft bricked my phone. Used ODIN to re-install ME7 firmware. All runs fine. In the midst of this however I panicked and called verizon for a replacement under warranty. I made the claim that "I unplugged my phone during the ME7 update" and that's how it bricked. If the phone they send me is MDK can I send my ME7 back? Should I "re-brick" my ME7 and send it back to them or just do a data wipe and re package it? Would they be able to tell?
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Be honest.
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Be honest.
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You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
Dolphlungegrin said:
You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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Why not, that's exactly what you did after all...
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richii0207 said:
Why not, it's exactly what you did after all...
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True. . . but I'm not sure I want to pay the full price for the phone they sent me under warranty. I would rather send the replacement back and wait for the ME7 bootloader to be cracked.
Erisnoob said:
Be honest.
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Yup
Dolphlungegrin said:
You mean, send back the new phone they're sending me? I can't think you would want me to tell them I'm rooting and re-flashing my device. . .
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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I mean if your device does not have any faults why are you getting a replacement? I understand you requested before you realized it is actually ok. You came here asking for advice on how to trick a company that is honoring a defective device that actually is not defective. So yeah send back your replacement or find a legit defect with your device. Sounds like an integrity issue to me.
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Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
I would tell them that you just fixed it with Odin..
I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright the point is taken about being honest. You don't really need to make an underhanded comment about my character over something like this though.
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Why be underhanded about your character? Your title is how to trick Verizon? What this really is though is a hey look at me guys I commited fraud to replace a device that I knowingly and willingly violated my warranty with and had verizon send me a replacement device only to find out my original device wasnt broken after all. To add to the character comment even though you've fixed your device you're still contemplating continuing with the fraud by purposely bricking a device that you repaired...
I think this whole thread speaks volumes about your character or lack there of. You posted this on the internet. You screwed up the device. You fixed it. Own it.
Dolphlungegrin said:
I called them and said I fixed my phone. Sending the replacement back. Goodbye MDK=/.
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The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
Edit: The title of your thread didn't help matters either
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The one thing I hate about the XDA forums is the rudeness of some people. It's completely up to the OP regarding his conscience in the matter. I will give you my opinion:
I have never read about anybody getting back charged for returning phone that was modded / rooted. Those of us that have been long time VZW customers have seen the decline of trust with them. I know it's too late for you to change course now but in the future you should have no regrets if you decide for another equipment swap. With the root / unlock bounty reaching towards $6K you can ask any of them how they feel. VZW sneaked in the so called OTA update with minor improvements overall; and completely locking down the phone.
It's up to you in the end but I wouldn't worry..... You would be the first casualty.
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I agree with you completely, it's on the person. The question was how do I trick verizon....so my answer was don't. If you don't want the feedback, don't ask. No rudeness was intended. I am fairly sure the lack of ownership on mistakes is frowned upon in the XDA community. Oh well, my opinion was to be honest. Enjoy your decision
Nothing rude was said to the op. The fact of the matter is that the very premise of this thread was to seek advice on warranty fraud, which is illegal.
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It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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It probably wouldnt even matter if you sent back the "broke" one back fixed, they probably don't open each phone package to verify it functions, probably just check for water damage and cracks
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The Verizon rep said something similar. He said they check for water damage, broken screen, etc.
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Here's the deal, no one thinks you are a bad person. Strike me down, but verizon is not lacking integrity here. Never once was this device advertised as being unlocked or unlockable and they have never said they support modding. If this was a nexus that they locked the bootloader on then yes, problem. I said be honest, my point was this decison is an integrity one, not you lack integrity. If you wanted to know if will VZW charge you for returning a rooted phone, that would have been a more appropriate question and thread, not how do I trick Verizon. Lesson learned, not beating up on you.
The OP owned it, he said he was sending the replacement device back. Good for him. Like others I wasnt trying to come across as being rude as much as appalled at the blatant disregard of personal responsibility. At the same time posting this type of title and thread up on XDA is kinda asking for it, which again, the OP has acknowledged.
We know we hate the carriers locking devices down. Locking them actually presents more of a risk of bricking than unlocked devices that you can always flash back to stock. Almost every thread here has something to the effect of "by following such and such your warranty is now void and we are not responsible", come on, we're registered here at XDA, we all know this. If we want an open device get a dev or nexus device and get an extended warranty or insurance option, they're out there.
Congrats to the op for staying classy, your choices are your choices and you'll live with whatever choices you decide to make.
And as we all should know by now, dont post on the interwebz if you dont want to hear what people, trolls and non-trolls alike have to say...
Dolphlungegrin said:
Alright, alright, I dug my own grave on this one. I don't want to resort to such tactics but like everyone else I'm a little peeved with Verizon so I'm contemplating doing things I normally wouldn't do. Not that it's an excuse but making sweeping judgments about my character is a little overboard. It's not like I sneak out at night punching babies or anything. I'm annoyed that I was hoodwinked into an update that prevented me from modding my phone. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I just saw a potential way out and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with getting charged for sending back a rooted phone. If you think I should just be honest, say so. This whole "you lack integrity," stuff is B.S. If Verizon had any integrity I wouldn't even be contemplating pulling a stunt like this.
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Think of it like this. What do you use your phone for? To talk on the phone. Send messages. Email. Take pictures. Surf the web. Play games. Watch videos. Video chat. The other 20% is customization. If this was the year 1999 you would only be able to use your phone to make calls send messages and half-assed surf the web. Your phone is used for those types of things. Just because an update happened to a phone doesn't mean that you cannot use your phone to do those things it only limits you from updating to a different ROMS. ATT Verizon and them paid the money so they could have the locked boot loaders for the phones. If you didn't want restrictions then you wouldn't have used the upgrade you had and went and paid full price for the GPE s4 or other phone. Not saying that I like having a locked boot loader but since Obama came into office this is how its going to be because he's UN Americanized. But there are people working hard to get the boot loader unlocked it just takes time. You can still root it. Just my 2 cents
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