Hey All,
Before going any further, I just wanted to acknowledge that there are other threads out there regarding this issue. However, none of them have indicated any contact with HTC. That said, I called HTC today because I noticed that I too have a slight bend to my phone. I have never dropped this thing and always keep it in my front pocket. I feel that our phones should hold up to everyday things..... like being in front pockets or in small backpack compartments. For the EVO LTE, this seems to not be the case.
When I called HTC, I spoke to a floor supervisor who told me this was the first he has ever heard of this issue. I think it behooves us to let HTC know that although not all are having issues with their phones bending, there are members of the community who, through very little fault of their own, have bent phones. In order to have HTC rectify this matter, it may be best for all of us to contact HTC and file reports/complaints. I had my issue escalated today, but the representative told me that not much may come out of it since this was the first he has heard of this.
Let me know what you guys think.
Good call on contacting them. I have no issue with this yet, but certainly would contact them if I did.
Maybe change the thread title to something that indicates you want people to contact HTC, or many will groan and not even open this thread.
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So you have no case on it? The phone does seem very fragile and bendable. I have had an Otterbox defender on mine since day 1 so I haven't experienced any bending myself.
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I have a case on it. I understand why you would ask, but the product shouldn't bend just because it doesn't have a case. Scratches without a case, definitely. Bending? Definitely a design flaw.
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I for one had it bend. But I know that if I were to call up HTC and say hey you guys shoulda known this issue and addressed it, they would either laugh at me and say have a nice day or, act like they've never ever had the issue nor heard of it and say its just your imagination or see to your doctor to change pills, or even say nothing we can do as its all how you as the customer treated your device. I would be shocked to ever hear anything come out of HTC as saying oops were sorry. Especially since the on going battle of source is still ensuing. Best case scenario, just buy a good case and move on with life.
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The wheels on one of my cars are more susceptible to bending than others. I can't imagine ever having the self-entitled thought of being owed compensation due to my negligence as the owner and operator.
But I haven't bent any wheels because I know they need a smidge more care than others just like you knew the Evo does.
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The wheels on one of my cars are more susceptible to bending than others. I can't imagine ever having the self-entitled thought of being owed compensation due to my negligence as the owner and operator.
But I haven't bent any wheels because I know they need a smidge more care than others just like you knew the Evo does.
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That's a horrible analogy. He stated in the main post that he has never dropped the thing AND he has a case on it. He takes care of it just as you do your non-forged wheels, and yet it's still bent. This translates to manufacturers defect, and he is owed a replacement. Bending is not wear and tear, that's design flaw.
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That's a horrible analogy. He stated in the main post that he has never dropped the thing AND he has a case on it. He takes care of it just as you do your non-forged wheels, and yet it's still bent. This translates to manufacturers defect, and he is owed a replacement. Bending is not wear and tear, that's design flaw.
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Actually he doesn't mention having a case on it and he also insinuates that he put the phone in his back pocket. Regardless it doesn't hurt to contact HTC.
I think HTC needs to hear about this as much as possible, after reading all the threads about this, and noticing that mine is "warped" (twisted a little from corner to corner) it seems like a huge design flaw. Hopefully they take it into account when designing their next phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
Mine is no longer straight when sighted lengthwise in the same axis as volume buttons. It has a bend right between the red stripe and the volume buttons. The bend is also present on the opposite side of the phone. I have a case on it and never put it in my back pocket.
I have applied a very small amount of force using my fingers after noticing this and can make the phone flex quite easily.
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Actually he doesn't mention having a case on it and he also insinuates that he put the phone in his back pocket. Regardless it doesn't hurt to contact HTC.
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mentions having a case on it in post #4, also mentions in the first post he keeps it in his front pocket, same as me and a bunch of other people in the forum
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Actually he doesn't mention having a case on it and he also insinuates that he put the phone in his back pocket. Regardless it doesn't hurt to contact HTC.
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AliLaPointe said:
I have a case on it. I understand why you would ask, but the product shouldn't bend just because it doesn't have a case. Scratches without a case, definitely. Bending? Definitely a design flaw.
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Yea I love the phone, I've never owned one so fragile though. It's always in the otterbox commuter case and I use the seidio active holster, i'm afraid of putting it in my pocket.
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I for one had it bend. But I know that if I were to call up HTC and say hey you guys shoulda known this issue and addressed it, they would either laugh at me and say have a nice day or, act like they've never ever had the issue nor heard of it and say its just your imagination or see to your doctor to change pills, or even say nothing we can do as its all how you as the customer treated your device. I would be shocked to ever hear anything come out of HTC as saying oops were sorry. Especially since the on going battle of source is still ensuing. Best case scenario, just buy a good case and move on with life.
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I totally understand that we are cynical. However, this doesn't make it right. The relationship between a consumer and a producer is based somewhat off of reputation. We bought these phones, and not a cheap iphone clone or a knockoff of some other brand because we expected these to be reliable. I don't expect HTC to bend to our will, but they should at the very least look into this.
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That's a horrible analogy. He stated in the main post that he has never dropped the thing AND he has a case on it. He takes care of it just as you do your non-forged wheels, and yet it's still bent. This translates to manufacturers defect, and he is owed a replacement. Bending is not wear and tear, that's design flaw.
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I think HTC needs to hear about this as much as possible, after reading all the threads about this, and noticing that mine is "warped" (twisted a little from corner to corner) it seems like a huge design flaw. Hopefully they take it into account when designing their next phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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Mine is no longer straight when sighted lengthwise in the same axis as volume buttons. It has a bend right between the red stripe and the volume buttons. The bend is also present on the opposite side of the phone. I have a case on it and never put it in my back pocket.
I have applied a very small amount of force using my fingers after noticing this and can make the phone flex quite easily.
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Observe:
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mentions having a case on it in post #4, also mentions in the first post he keeps it in his front pocket, same as me and a bunch of other people in the forum
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Thanks to all of you who actually took the time to read the post and not just jump to conclusion. If this is actually something you care about, call HTC and let them know whats up. Have the issue escalated and get a case number. They will not do ANYTHING about this flaw for us, or for future phones if they are not aware it exists.
"Dear HTC... I bent my wookie."
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"Dear HTC... I bent my wookie."
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Good job Ralph.
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I'm wondering if some of these phones were built with a weak spot while others were not. I have never dropped my phone or put it in my back pocket, bit I do keep it cased (tpu) in a separate zippered compartment in my purse. I take it in and out of there all the time. I would think this is worse than a man's front shirt pocket, yet mine is not bent at all. I've had it since launch. I absolutely think HTC should be contacted and I would argue that it is a manufacturing defect.
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How tight are you guy's pants? I have had this phone since it released. Very seldom use my case since I love the slim design and I haven't had this issue. I keep the phone in my front pocket. I honestly don't see how this is possible with no user influence.
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So I wear really tight skinny jeans and am about to get this phone, is it a bad idea?
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Getting the phone or wearing tight skinny jeans?
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Ok, I saw this youtube link and want one now! As of now they do not layer Amazes yet. I e-mailed the company in an attempt to see if they can apply their "nano" layer of the amaze. I really want this!
http://www.liquipel.com/in-action/
Old news. There have been many companies that claimed to be able to do it. I'm assuming they all led to failure.
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Old news. There have been many companies that claimed to be able to do it. I'm assuming they all led to failure.
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Dude, do you ever have anything nice to say? Stop being a grumpy Korean!
As for Liquidpel it looks awesome! I hope they put the amaze on there list!
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Dude, do you ever have anything nice to say? Stop being a grumpy Korean!
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I actually agree. I just sent him a PM and found this after the PM.
I might have to go through every one of his posts and remove any that seem negative or not productive... I just wouldn't want him to be reduced to Junior Member status.
I have a hard time putting faith in something like this. Not trying to be overly skeptical but I'm sure the company won't shed too many tears if my device shorts out.
As for the technology, I'm thinking it's some sort of PVD coating which wears down over time, particularly so with something like a phone.
Met some of these guys at CES, though I think there were other companies there doing the same thing. They were demonstrating on some iPhones, and on a tissue paper that had been treated as well (putting blue-dyed water on the tissue - beaded up nice).
Talked to them for a bit. Guy told me it's not yet 100% waterproof, step below. Asked him what that meant - basically you should try to avoid prolonged submersion in water. But a dip in the toilet, bath, pool should be fine.
If anyone wants, I have a 30% off treatment code from them. I think it's multi-use, since it doesn't seem unique. Normal price is $59.99 I believe.
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Met some of these guys at CES, though I think there were other companies there doing the same thing. They were demonstrating on some iPhones, and on a tissue paper that had been treated as well (putting blue-dyed water on the tissue - beaded up nice).
Talked to them for a bit. Guy told me it's not yet 100% waterproof, step below. Asked him what that meant - basically you should try to avoid prolonged submersion in water. But a dip in the toilet, bath, pool should be fine.
If anyone wants, I have a 30% off treatment code from them. I think it's multi-use, since it doesn't seem unique. Normal price is $59.99 I believe.
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I'm interested actually please post or mp me the 30 percent off...thanks
Seems a bit fishy. liquid dynamics do not work like that with electronics... At least not now. might be worth it to a degree, but how many times do you let your $500 device out of your sight?
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DLprac said:
Met some of these guys at CES, though I think there were other companies there doing the same thing. They were demonstrating on some iPhones, and on a tissue paper that had been treated as well (putting blue-dyed water on the tissue - beaded up nice).
Talked to them for a bit. Guy told me it's not yet 100% waterproof, step below. Asked him what that meant - basically you should try to avoid prolonged submersion in water. But a dip in the toilet, bath, pool should be fine.
If anyone wants, I have a 30% off treatment code from them. I think it's multi-use, since it doesn't seem unique. Normal price is $59.99 I believe.
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I would like very much!! Thank you!
DLprac said:
Met some of these guys at CES, though I think there were other companies there doing the same thing. They were demonstrating on some iPhones, and on a tissue paper that had been treated as well (putting blue-dyed water on the tissue - beaded up nice).
Talked to them for a bit. Guy told me it's not yet 100% waterproof, step below. Asked him what that meant - basically you should try to avoid prolonged submersion in water. But a dip in the toilet, bath, pool should be fine.
If anyone wants, I have a 30% off treatment code from them. I think it's multi-use, since it doesn't seem unique. Normal price is $59.99 I believe.
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Thanks for the input, if it is a multiuse code please forward to me also. I am looking to try their service out.
about the guys saying they wouldnt risk it, are you saying you would risk water droping or some other liquid on your phone? lol, id rather have a "chance" of having this product in case something happened. they dont make this product so we can take underwater pictures or go swimming with it, they make it so its protected.. lol, ive actually had a friend spill beer all over my leg when i had my HD7 and luckily the water damage label didnt go off and i got it replaced. im sure i wouldnt have to if i had this
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about the guys saying they wouldnt risk it, are you saying you would risk water droping or some other liquid on your phone? lol, id rather have a "chance" of having this product in case something happened. they dont make this product so we can take underwater pictures or go swimming with it, they make it so its protected.. lol, ive actually had a friend spill beer all over my leg when i had my HD7 and luckily the water damage label didnt go off and i got it replaced. im sure i wouldnt have to if i had this
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Fair point, but I'd be more interested in seeing if I can have the water damage label replaced for the price of LiquidPel
shirazir said:
Fair point, but I'd be more interested in seeing if I can have the water damage label replaced for the price of LiquidPel
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you can buy those labels for like $4 on ebay i think, but it has to be the exact matching one. HTC uses different ones on a lot of their devices, couldnt even find one for the incredible lol
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you can buy those labels for like $4 on ebay i think, but it has to be the exact matching one. HTC uses different ones on a lot of their devices, couldnt even find one for the incredible lol
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There are a couple now. HTC has gotten smart about it. I'd assume there are 3-4 on every new phone. With MSRP rising, they just want to be sure. Not trying to be negative, just a little realistic. If you believe a $4 sticker can trick HTC into giving you a $530 phone replacement... sounds like a crime to me.
Has anyone gotten this type of treatment done yet?
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There are a couple now. HTC has gotten smart about it. I'd assume there are 3-4 on every new phone. With MSRP rising, they just want to be sure. Not trying to be negative, just a little realistic. If you believe a $4 sticker can trick HTC into giving you a $530 phone replacement... sounds like a crime to me.
Has anyone gotten this type of treatment done yet?
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I never have said i have done, i just have heard of people doing it and it working.. not sure if it would now. and i also never said sent back to HTC, could send it back to T-mobile anyways ive never had the issue. i wouldnt mind getting the treatment if i had the money to spend../waste
Btw, I forgot to actually put this on the other thread, but this is the response I got from them when I was inquiring before.
Thanks for your Inquiry, sorry for the delayed response.
That device is not currently on our approved device list but we are
constantly doing research and development to expand the available
devices. Liquipel is applicable to all types of electronic devices but
with a varying degree of performance. For devices not on the approved
device list we are still able to make them splash proof and spill
resistant. We will file your request and notify you when the device is
available if you are not interested in having it treated before it is
has been added to the approved device list.
The usual turn around time is anywhere from the same day we receive
your device. To 1 business day.
Thanks
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So basically, they can still do it but they don't seem to guarantee a full waterproof seal
Then we should bombbard them with requests to put it on the list!
And i just got the same email today.
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More_info:
http://news.discovery.com/tech/coating-protects-cellphone-water-120109.html
I wish I didn't have such a perfectionist mind and be crazy about the smallest imperfections, but really HTC, you need to get your **** together. I upgraded to the Evo3D because I had replaced my Evo4G screen 2 times already because of issues with dust and had my hopes very high that by upgrading to the 3D I might finally be able to avoid the problem. Little did I know, I was mistaken. I lurked for many days for some insight into the whole dust situation before even buying the Evo3D and could only find rare occurences so I figured I should be fine. 2 Months later I have one spec of dust. I said okay, its small enough that maybe I can let this one go, but then today I noticed 5 pieces total. This is a quality control issue and I have tried going to the repair center for sprint and they said it was not covered under the TEP plan. What bull****, and HTC wont fix it either. I'm in no mood to fight this issue with them again that this is a manufacturing defect so I decided I'm going to leave the HTC scene. I really regret to even resort to this but I'm very heavily contemplating an iPhone 4, mainly because of the build quality, and the fact that the screens are all on top of one another, there are no open spaces between any of the sheets of glass, therefore there is no room for dust to squeeze its way in there.
If anyone has any way to get the dust out before I jump ship, or rip my head off, please give me some insight. I really love the android community, and it's been very good to me. Thanks in advance.
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I wish I didn't have such a perfectionist mind and be crazy about the smallest imperfections, but really HTC, you need to get your **** together. I upgraded to the Evo3D because I had replaced my Evo4G screen 2 times already because of issues with dust and had my hopes very high that by upgrading to the 3D I might finally be able to avoid the problem. Little did I know, I was mistaken. I lurked for many days for some insight into the whole dust situation before even buying the Evo3D and could only find rare occurences so I figured I should be fine. 2 Months later I have one spec of dust. I said okay, its small enough that maybe I can let this one go, but then today I noticed 5 pieces total. This is a quality control issue and I have tried going to the repair center for sprint and they said it was not covered under the TEP plan. What bull****, and HTC wont fix it either. I'm in no mood to fight this issue with them again that this is a manufacturing defect so I decided I'm going to leave the HTC scene. I really regret to even resort to this but I'm very heavily contemplating an iPhone 4, mainly because of the build quality, and the fact that the screens are all on top of one another, there are no open spaces between any of the sheets of glass, therefore there is no room for dust to squeeze its way in there.
If anyone has any way to get the dust out before I jump ship, or rip my head off, please give me some insight. I really love the android community, and it's been very good to me. Thanks in advance.
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Dude that sucks lol I had a brand new one radio was bad in it.. Sprint swapped it out... With another brand new one.. The new one had one spec of black dust so tiny but you could see it if you were looking annoying lol...
I ended up selling it... I bought another one a few months ago ...
i skimmed through this post... and not one question mark... hirarious
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i skimmed through this post... and not one question mark... hirarious
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Look at your spelling of hilarious. Are you Chinese?
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it's the better way to say hirarious
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it's the better way to say hirarious
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lawh fwen fwy? owaan bang??
"If anyone has any way to get the dust out before I jump ship, or rip my head off, please give me some insight."
I apologize that there was no question mark but I bolded this because I was asking for insight. If thats alright with you of course.
Let me rephrase this in the form of a question, Alex. (I actually am interested in the answer because I can't read my clock on sunny days due to the dust.)
"I have a forest of pocket lint growing in the upper right corner of my screen. Has anyone successfully remedied this? If so, could you please share?"
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Let me rephrase this in the form of a question, Alex. (I actually am interested in the answer because I can't read my clock on sunny days due to the dust.)
"I have a forest of pocket lint growing in the upper right corner of my screen. Has anyone successfully remedied this? If so, could you please share?"
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LOL
Have you tried taking a can of compressed air and blowing some into the headphones jack?
freeza said:
LOL
Have you tried taking a can of compressed air and blowing some into the headphones jack?
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keyboard cleaner .... win
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What i did was i bought a tool tool lift up the screen
Lifted it out half way to not disconnect digitizer took out dirt then put some adhesive phone tape and put phone glass back in
Vwalla
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I only had this problem with my HERO. Got it replaced for free, no questions asked. Had the EVO 3D since launch-day. Not a single speck of dust under my screen. I'm not sure how people are doing this, but I'm beginning to think it's the way people treat their phones. The HERO I had was bought from a friend. I take VERY good care of all my phones, and never have these problems. I don't even use a case on my phone. At most, a matte screen protector.
But in all honesty, you probably should've sprung for the TEP plan. I recommend EVERYONE getting it. And if you get an iPhone, you CAN'T get it through Sprint. You'll have to buy Apple One Care, which I think turns out to be more expensive (I may be wrong).
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What i did was i bought a tool tool lift up the screen
Lifted it out half way to not disconnect digitizer took out dirt then put some adhesive phone tape and put phone glass back in
Vwalla
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Lifted it out ... after getting it super hot to make the adhesive gooey, right? I've actually built an EVO 3D from parts laying around, and other parts I ordered online. I don't recommend anyone else do this, it was brutal, but it works 100%.
The other big lesson I learned from ordering on-line: While the website may say: "Brand new parts" they may arrive and you find they are brand new, but did not actually pass quality standards in the factory! The 3D I built has tiny, hair-line scratches in the digitizer! Most time you never notice, but "Brand new parts" doesn't actually give you the full story.
Sorry, ranting here.
Just my $.02
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I only had this problem with my HERO. Got it replaced for free, no questions asked. Had the EVO 3D since launch-day. Not a single speck of dust under my screen. I'm not sure how people are doing this, but I'm beginning to think it's the way people treat their phones. The HERO I had was bought from a friend. I take VERY good care of all my phones, and never have these problems. I don't even use a case on my phone. At most, a matte screen protector.
But in all honesty, you probably should've sprung for the TEP plan. I recommend EVERYONE getting it. And if you get an iPhone, you CAN'T get it through Sprint. You'll have to buy Apple One Care, which I think turns out to be more expensive (I may be wrong).
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My phone has a dust spray on the bottom right corner. Been there since I bought. I'm living with it now since it's out of the way and doesn't usually bother me. But I agree that it's terrible that the phone was shipped this way. I do have Sprint TEP plan but been too lazy to go in.
I've had two HTC phones and do really like them but I'm moving to a Samsung next time for sure. Probably replace this before I buy a new one then sell it. HTC phones are beginning to all look too much the same. Time to move on.
I have the cheap $4 (not including the damage loss) TEP but:
1) I don't want to lose my 1.4 bootloader and get a lousy reman unit.
2) since a bunch of updates (thanks, freeza), it has stopped rebooting at random, which was the only reason I got TEP in the first place
I fear that blowing air in the left side (headphone jack) might move the forest (presently in the upper right) downward, not just rightward. I'm tempted to cancel the TEP and just break it open for a proper cleaning.
I think this was a qc issue. My old evo was 100% clean under the screen. This 3d, after fewer months in the same environment) looks like a freaking dryer vent.
I'm about to go trade my black note for a white one. But I've been hearing about some manufacturing defects... Such as cracks and black screen?
Can someone explain to me so I can inspect the new note while I'm at the store?
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I have a white note. Neither of those issues exist on my unit of that helps.
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I have a white note. Neither of those issues exist on my unit of that helps.
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+ 1 to this. Mine's fine.
Don't let all the negative reviews freak you out.. Go ahead and swap the chance of a lemon is very slim. My gf and I both have had flawless white notes.
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Dnt listen to that crap. Ppl who write those things do not feel comfy even with their body of course they will find "problems" with the note and keep exchanging it twoce a week. This is very good quality built phone get it!
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The white one is Stunning!
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I agree with everybody else. I also have a white Note, and it's just fine. No cracls, no "black crush" (stupid name if you ask me). This is why I hate those stupid threads by people who examine their phones with a microscope, then create threads when they find the most miniscule flaws, which otherwise wouldn't be seen. Go ahead and pull the trigger on the white version.
BTW, if you look hard enough, youbwill always find a tiny imperfection. Five million Notes have shipped, and only fraction of them have had problems. No more than any other phone on the market.
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I agree with everybody else. I also have a white Note, and it's just fine. No cracls, no "black crush" (stupid name if you ask me). This is why I hate those stupid threads by people who examine their phones with a microscope, then create threads when they find the most miniscule flaws, which otherwise wouldn't be seen. Go ahead and pull the trigger on the white version.
BTW, if you look hard enough, youbwill always find a tiny imperfection. Five million Notes have shipped, and only fraction of them have had problems. No more than any other phone on the market.
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And then they bloody return them. I swear I'd smack some of the guys who return **** from this forum
My white note is flawless
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Dnt listen to that crap. Ppl who write those things do not feel comfy even with their body of course they will find "problems" with the note and keep exchanging it twoce a week. This is very good quality built phone get it!
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These "problems" are real. I have both on my phone, but I could really care less about either. Don't let it stop you from getting a white one as it has nothing to do with the color.
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Every phone is susceptible to flaws, white just shows more that black. Get the white one if thats what you really want. I only have the black one because i got a good deal off contract for it.
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IMHO the people that are getting cracks in their screens are the people that think they are taking good care of their phones but in reality are not taking care of them. I had my first cell in the late 90s and broke my antenna taking it out of my pocket so I learned never ever to put my cell back in my pocket under any circumstances. Pants do get looser and tighter as you sit and stand and pressure is put on the screen which is probably causing these cracks. Get the white note just take care of it and you will be fine. No pockets! No bags! Don't sleep with it! Don't set it near your drink! Dont put in the glove compartment so it will rattle around! Don't lay on your dash while driving!
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IMHO the people that are getting cracks in their screens are the people that think they are taking good care of their phones but in reality are not taking care of them. I had my first cell in the late 90s and broke my antenna taking it out of my pocket so I learned never ever to put my cell back in my pocket under any circumstances. Pants do get looser and tighter as you sit and stand and pressure is put on the screen which is probably causing these cracks. Get the white note just take care of it and you will be fine. No pockets! No bags! Don't sleep with it! Don't set it near your drink! Dont put in the glove compartment so it will rattle around! Don't lay on your dash while driving!
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These cracks aren't in the screens...
You don't need to be so anal with your phone... It's not a cheap toy these are built solid. First two weeks with my phone I had it completely naked and pocketed it. now I have a leather pouch and glas.t screen protector. Just remember that it'll cost you 800 for a new one and I'm sure you won't break it.
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The only issue with mine is a small alien that lives under my battery feeding off my phones power. That explains the crappy battery life.
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cgibsong002 said:
These cracks aren't in the screens...
You don't need to be so anal with your phone... It's not a cheap toy these are built solid. First two weeks with my phone I had it completely naked and pocketed it. now I have a leather pouch and glas.t screen protector. Just remember that it'll cost you 800 for a new one and I'm sure you won't break it.
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Your right they are not cheap toys but they sometimes get cracked screens if they are dropped from pocket level onto asphalt, but they are pretty well built. I'm not anal about my phone but I know no matter what if it breaks I either get my retired device of shell out $750 for a new one so I am very cautious. People can do what they want with their phones I was just giving advice based on my experience. I don't even take my phone outta the house, too much could happen and its really not that important to always have my cell with me. I don't have a text plan so I don't need it for texting and I would never walk/drive and text/talk. Nobody knows what is causing the so called flaws on the Notes but if mine get a scratch, chip or crack in it I will know exactly how it happened and won't have to sit and wonder whether its a defect or if I did it. I can keep a cell for 18 month till I upgrade and it still looks new but I too have scratched and even shattered phones so it happens to all of us. All I was sayin was if you know exactly where your phone is at all times it might not get a scratch or get broke.
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Your right they are not cheap toys but they sometimes get cracked screens if they are dropped from pocket level onto asphalt, but they are pretty well built. I'm not anal about my phone but I know no matter what if it breaks I either get my retired device of shell out $750 for a new one so I am very cautious. People can do what they want with their phones I was just giving advice based on my experience. I don't even take my phone outta the house, too much could happen and its really not that important to always have my cell with me. I don't have a text plan so I don't need it for texting and I would never walk/drive and text/talk. Nobody knows what is causing the so called flaws on the Notes but if mine get a scratch, chip or crack in it I will know exactly how it happened and won't have to sit and wonder whether its a defect or if I did it. I can keep a cell for 18 month till I upgrade and it still looks new but I too have scratched and even shattered phones so it happens to all of us. All I was sayin was if you know exactly where your phone is at all times it might not get a scratch or get broke.
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Mobile phones are exactly that, *mobile* phones. 99% of the people with cell phones use them when they are mobile. If you never take your's out of the house why spend so much for a cell plan? Just get a land line.
It is very thin...I wonder if we will have any problem with bending or cracking the screen from bending by carrying it in your pocket??
Any thoughts??
Don't think so. Maybe if you put it in your back pocket and sit on it but its still a solid piece. When you look at the Evo 4G the phone is 2 pieces and actually has a week spot but i doubt the Note 2 would just bend or crack without considerable force. Just my opinion.
I would like to believe that this is a nonissue. Have you heard any of the OG notes breaking from being bent? Every review I have seen has said that this is a sturdy device.
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I would like to believe that this is a nonissue. Have you heard any of the OG notes breaking from being bent? Every review I have seen has said that this is a sturdy device.
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No, I have not heard of any notes breaking. It just felt delicate to me...I'm sure it will be just fine. Can't wait!!
I would be very careful with this. I did see a post in another thread somewhere about a broken screen.
I work with a guy that has a Casio Commando with a broken screen. So....
Take a sheet of plastic and see how easily you can bend it. Doesn't take too much flex to break thin glass.
Anyway. If I get this, I'll for sure be looking for a sturdy case for it.
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No, I have not heard of any notes breaking. It just felt delicate to me...I'm sure it will be just fine. Can't wait!!
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People said the same thing with the S3. Most likely because of the plastic feel.
If someone puts it in their back pocket and is well a bigger person, there is a risk or if they fall hard on their backside then that could break it.
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If someone puts it in their back pocket and is well a bigger person, there is a risk or if they fall hard on their backside then that could break it.
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That kind of force will likely damage any device.
I know I've read/seen reports of the S3 casing having small fractures appear that don't functionally hurt the device, but just creep you out a little...so I thought I would search for reports of similar on the Note II. I can't find any even though I was under the impression the casing is similar material.
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I know I've read/seen reports of the S3 casing having small fractures appear that don't functionally hurt the device, but just creep you out a little...so I thought I would search for reports of similar on the Note II. I can't find any even though I was under the impression the casing is similar material.
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Yeah, they are the same material. People have reported random scratching on the metal parts from purchase and also scratches on the lens. I have yet to see something like this for the n2 from
What you are talking about though
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It is very thin...I wonder if we will have any problem with bending or cracking the screen from bending by carrying it in your pocket??
Any thoughts??
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If you are worried about it there are many vendors selling aluminum case backs in many different colors which would certainly make it stronger.
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If you are worried about it there are many vendors selling aluminum case backs in many different colors which would certainly make it stronger.
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Why would anyone want to compromise their radio signal and reception by adding a metal back for aesthetics?
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Why would anyone want to compromise their radio signal and reception by adding a metal back for aesthetics?
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I wouldn't do it and certainly not for aesthetic reasons. I mentioned it for those who were concerned about whether or not the phone is sturdy enough with a plastic back. I have read comments from those who have installed these aluminum backs that they did not degrade the radio signal but those were subjective opinions I'm sure.
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It is very thin...I wonder if we will have any problem with bending or cracking the screen from bending by carrying it in your pocket??
Any thoughts??
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I watched the samsung testing facility video. They bend these devices quite a bit. It wasn't in English, but it didn't need to be. Its plastic for a reason. I've had my nexus fall 3 times while running on a treadmill. Sure the battery falls out... but not a scratch on the device and works just fine still. I had a Moto Razr Maxx HD which is, well, metal. I feel like that would crack the screen if its dropped before the nexus would.
Plastic has a lot more flex to it than glass (obviously), so any slight bends to the phone shouldn't be much of an issue.
As some of you unfortunately may have found out, the back glass on our phones break quite easily.
Do you think we could get a petition or something going on "Change" website to get this problem addressed.
I have read some stories of the phone breaking not because of a drop, but because of temperature fluctuations.
To me, this seems like a manufacturing defect, similar to a recall on an automobile.
Any thoughts are appreciated to maybe get something going to correct this.
Thanks
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hollywood528 said:
As some of you unfortunately may have found out, the back glass on our phones break quite easily.
Do you think we could get a petition or something going on "Change" website to get this problem addressed.
I have read some stories of the phone breaking not because of a drop, but because of temperature fluctuations.
To me, this seems like a manufacturing defect, similar to a recall on an automobile.
Any thoughts are appreciated to maybe get something going to correct this.
Thanks
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Have you e-mailed LG support and let them know of these issues. I'm sure they know already but you can't just jump the gun without first contacting them directly. Give them the chance to fix it first. If they say that the temperature issues are normal then yes you can start a petition.
Is the back of this device easy to replace? If it is, it would be nice to be able to buy different backs, like made of polycarbonate or metal. That would be amazing. :fingers-crossed:
Though they would have to be made by a 3rd party, and I doubt any company would actually do it.
I believe that when you buy something with glass vs plastic or metal you should know and accept that glass breaks with pressure and don't hold others responsible for our choices.
That's why i use plastic cups at home lol
elvelozpotosino said:
I believe that when you buy something with glass vs plastic or metal you should know and accept that glass breaks with pressure and don't hold others responsible for our choices.
That's why i use plastic cups at home lol
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+1. Also haven't heard about the temp issue since early in the phone's life. I get people drop phones, and whatnot, but that isn't LG's issue, they chose a glass back, and the consumer chose to accept it.
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Is the back of this device easy to replace? If it is, it would be nice to be able to buy different backs, like made of polycarbonate or metal. That would be amazing. :fingers-crossed:
Though they would have to be made by a 3rd party, and I doubt any company would actually do it.
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I've seen some replacement backs on ebay, i don't think the back of the phone itself would be too difficult to replace based on the tear downs i've seen at least. Guess ya never know till ya try. lol
I bought a spare back and bezel on ebay back when they were cheap and in stock, just in case. I work above the Arctic Circle and was worried what going from 70°F to -60°F and back when I go outside and come back in would do to the glass back, but I didn't have any issues this winter. YMMV.
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I bought a spare back and bezel on ebay back when they were cheap and in stock, just in case. I work above the Arctic Circle and was worried what going from 70°F to -60°F and back when I go outside and come back in would do to the glass back, but I didn't have any issues this winter. YMMV.
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How cheap was it? The back, that is. I'm contemplating replacing it just because of the little crack, but I'm not sure if it's worth the 55.
Does the cracked back make it unusable? Case/otterbox and no one knows
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Does the cracked back make it unusable? Case/otterbox and no one knows
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No the phone is completely fine, that's why I'm questioning buying a new back. It's just a cosmetic crack. Using a case now and I still think about it, haha.
I understand that. But temperature has nothing to do with pressure..
No I have not yet contacted them. I will do that and see what they say.
Just wanted to see what everyone's opinion was on this issue.
I saw one back on eBay for $55... Another seller shows them for $365 right now and before it was only $35, so I emailed him and they said its not in stock, that is why they raised the price. Said they will bring the price back down when they get more in stock..
Otterbox doesn't offer a case for this phone. I got a case from eBay for $10, its got a plastic shell surrounded in a rubber type wrap. It does ok, hides the crack some.. but my crack runs across the rear camera.
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Yeah, I think I got one back when they were $35, and I had $17 in ebay bucks from buying the phone anyway, so I figured what the hell?
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elvelozpotosino said:
I believe that when you buy something with glass vs plastic or metal you should know and accept that glass breaks with pressure and don't hold others responsible for our choices.
That's why i use plastic cups at home lol
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I see your point, but I don't agree with your premise. It's not unreasonable to assume that the manufacturer is using materials, that won't break when walking outside into the cold. The back glass is supposed to be as strong as the screen (supposedly GG2 also). If the screen broke when walking outside, would I expect the manufacturer to replace it? I wouldn't have done anything that is unreasonable or explicitly outlined in the warranty (e.g., immerse in water or drop), so yes, I would expect the manufacturer to replace it.
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I see your point, but I don't agree with your premise. It's not unreasonable to assume that the manufacturer is using materials, that won't break when walking outside into the cold. The back glass is supposed to be as strong as the screen (supposedly GG2 also). If the screen broke when walking outside, would I expect the manufacturer to replace it? I wouldn't have done anything that is unreasonable or explicitly outlined in the warranty (e.g., immerse in water or drop), so yes, I would expect the manufacturer to replace it.
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The cold cracks are from placing a hotter than normal glass back onto a cold surface. Not from walking outside.
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