So I just compared my GF's S2 (my old phone) with my S3 and I noticed that the S2 is actually faster in loading most apps. Mostly in stock apps like messaging, play store and youtube but also in games like ruzzle or when long pressing the button so the multitasking menu comes up. Performance wise the S3 still beats the S2 (benchmarks and games) so thats why I wonder why things like I mentioned are faster on the S2.
Both phones are on the latest stock rom.
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I actually have noticed that too..
The s2 stock sammy based roms are better/faster to me than the s3 ones...
I think the s3 ones suck big time basicaly... (except jelly bean of course... )
I use only AOSP right now and i suggest you to do the same until jelly bean is out...
Maybe its the touchwiz crap..
Touchwiz 4 was pretty light.. then they added Touchwiz 5/UX and all that extra gimmick features that no one will notice or use on a daily..
If it's that much faster than your s3 than just use your s2 this thread is just whiny and really has no business here. Hoping a mod will quickly lock this. I mean really saying the s2 is faster than the s3 will do nothing more than incite a flame war and insults. seriously stop posting dumb stuff like this.
LiquidNarwhal said:
If it's that much faster than your s3 than just use your s2 this thread is just whiny and really has no business here. Hoping a mod will quickly lock this. I mean really saying the s2 is faster than the s3 will do nothing more than incite a flame war and insults. seriously stop posting dumb stuff like this.
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Lighten up
this thread may ascertain what causes said smoothness on the S2, unlikely but maybe
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No way, I have used stock non rooted s2 side by side with my S3 and S3 always ended faster/smoother by miles.
I think the op has poorly configured his s3.
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Is it still GB? GB is definitely lighter than ICS and it is faster to render 800X480 than 720p.
That said, I think the GS2 was a bit of a fluke. Not very often do you have a phone released so early in the year dominate for the entire year, especially an Android one. It was a bit of the Exynos catching the cycle early while Qualcomm and OMAP were still milking their last gen chips. Either way, way ahead of its time.
bala_gamer said:
No way, I have used stock non rooted s2 side by side with my S3 and S3 always ended faster/smoother by miles.
I think the op has poorly configured his s3.
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fenjen said:
So I just compared my GF's S2 (my old phone) with my S3 and I noticed that the S2 is actually faster in loading most apps. Mostly in stock apps like messaging, play store and youtube but also in games like ruzzle or when long pressing the button so the multitasking menu comes up. Performance wise the S3 still beats the S2 (benchmarks and games) so thats why I wonder why things like I mentioned are faster on the S2.
Both phones are on the latest stock rom.
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yes i've done this test too. i put both phone side by side and launch apps simultaneously.
s2 is definitely faster in loading app most of the time. however it only happen on first launch or app that have not been launch for a while. if you repeatedly open the same app, then the difference is negligible.
my unprofessional take on this is that it is probably ram related. on s2 where there is usually ample ram, the apps launch into ram straight off, whereas on s3 (mine tends to have only about 100+mb free ram and i've frozen most of the bloats), it needs to page out unused processes before the new app can be loaded.
also bear in mind that s3 has to cope with a larger screen resolution and as you noted is quicker in raw performance.
i am curious to see this test performed on the international 1gb s3 vs the korean 2gb s3 though!
bala_gamer said:
No way, I have used stock non rooted s2 side by side with my S3 and S3 always ended faster/smoother by miles.
I think the op has poorly configured his s3.
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I agree my s3 on lg8 is so much smoother then a friends s2 on latest stock
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bala_gamer said:
No way, I have used stock non rooted s2 side by side with my S3 and S3 always ended faster/smoother by miles.
I think the op has poorly configured his s3.
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How can I have poorly configured my phone? I did a complete whipe yesterday and I have no software on it that could slug the device.
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If it's that much faster than your s3 than just use your s2 this thread is just whiny and really has no business here. Hoping a mod will quickly lock this. I mean really saying the s2 is faster than the s3 will do nothing more than incite a flame war and insults. seriously stop posting dumb stuff like this.
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I'm not even trying to whine here. It just seemed pretty strange to me. And if this thread is so stupid to you why did you even take time to comment on it then? Just keep your witty comments to yourself in the future, please.
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yes i've done this test too. i put both phone side by side and launch apps simultaneously.
s2 is definitely faster in loading app most of the time. however it only happen on first launch or app that have not been launch for a while. if you repeatedly open the same app, then the difference is negligible.
my unprofessional take on this is that it is probably ram related. on s2 where there is usually ample ram, the apps launch into ram straight off, whereas on s3 (mine tends to have only about 100+mb free ram and i've frozen most of the bloats), it needs to page out unused processes before the new app can be loaded.
also bear in mind that s3 has to cope with a larger screen resolution and as you noted is quicker in raw performance.
i am curious to see this test performed on the international 1gb s3 vs the korean 2gb s3 though!
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Also one thing I noticed with facebook is that if you launch it without having it opened earlier, the S2 will beat the S3 by some seconds, but then if you close it and open it again the S2 first shows the logo again for a couple of second and then shows the newsfeed while my S3 immediately drops into my newsfeed.
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smooth up your Galaxy S 3
just go to SETTINGS -> DEVELOPER OPTIONS and change the WINDOW ANIMATION SCALE and TRANSITION ANIMATION SCALE to 0.5x and see the changes
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How can I have poorly configured my phone? I did a complete whipe yesterday and I have no software on it that could slug the device.
I'm not even trying to whine here. It just seemed pretty strange to me. And if this thread is so stupid to you why did you even take time to comment on it then? Just keep your witty comments to yourself in the future, please.
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How could it be poorly configured? Well, for one, I find that my S3 runs significantly faster when S voice is disabled. Similarly, there is a whole host of background running apps and resource hogging processes that come out of the box. After disabling all of these, my S3 performs better than any other phone.
However, if you're merely comparing the speed of opening the app drawer or opening a mere app like messages, then even a single cored phone can sometimes open these things faster, depending on what's currently in the ram. It's just like how a regular computer can calculate 1+1 as fast as a super computer, as measured using the naked eye.
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just go to SETTINGS -> DEVELOPER OPTIONS and change the WINDOW ANIMATION SCALE and TRANSITION ANIMATION SCALE to 0.5x and see the changes
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Already did that
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The answer to this is if you've done any benchmarks eg. Antutu you'll notice that the sd card speeds on the sgs3 are pretty average for a high end device. This is what's causing apps to load unoptimally. Custom roms and kernels can help though.
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How could it be poorly configured? Well, for one, I find that my S3 runs significantly faster when S voice is disabled. Similarly, there is a whole host of background running apps and resource hogging processes that come out of the box. After disabling all of these, my S3 performs better than any other phone.
However, if you're merely comparing the speed of opening the app drawer or opening a mere app like messages, then even a single cored phone can sometimes open these things faster, depending on what's currently in the ram. It's just like how a regular computer can calculate 1+1 as fast as a super computer, as measured using the naked eye.
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While I agree with you in most things, the ram of the phones were both almost equally full. Also loading apps is completely dependant of how fast the phone's processor is but also how fast the flash and ram memory is and really can't be compared to 1+1. So the S3 should just launch everything quicker, but it doesn't which struck me as odd. I think it has to do something with how Samsung programmed the phone. Which would seem to me as bad programming. But then again I don't know a **** about programming.
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See benchmark comparison image. Notice how the sgs3 has slower write and database io compared to the hox and slower read compared to the Meizu.
I get > 50MB/s on my sgs3 because I'm using a wanam 2.2 + siyah 1.5.2 so if you want to squeeze out some extra performance, use custom ****.
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See benchmark comparison image. Notice how the sgs3 has slower write and database io compared to the hox and slower read compared to the Meizu.
I get > 50MB/s on my sgs3 because I'm using a wanam 2.2 + siyah 1.5.2 so if you want to squeeze out some extra performance, use custom ****.
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Hi, this screen shot is off the latest jelly been leak, and my i/o is excellent, one of the best on any device I own. I have both the s2 and s3 and the s3 is by far the fastest when they were both on stock or both on cm9.
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But why?!?
The Qualcomm CPU should kick ass. (Granted, it might not be faster than the Exynos in SGII but it shouldn't be MUCH slower) The GPU is also on par, if not faster than the Mali and Tegra GPU...
So why do my Benchmark scores kinda suck? My Tegra2 powered 7 inch tablet usually gets way better scores than my Evo3D... On some benchmarks it's even noticably behind LG Optimus 2X and similar phones that it should be AT LEAST on par with, if not faster...
Is it only the ROM that's at fault here or what's going on? What benchmark scores do the rest of you get? Smartbench, Antutu, Quadrant, CF Bench and all the rest of them?
(And yes, the phone is smooth enough in everyday use. And benchmarks don't mean everything, but it DOES mean something...)
It only means anything if all you do is bench testing on your phone. Try play games, watch films and take some picture with youe phone instead.
The mal 400 is way faster than anything else in android phones.
Never the less, nothing comes close to taxing the 3d processor or go. So don't worry about benches.
What more do you really need out of EVO3D benches to see that with the right ROM, and not having 46 widgets and livewallpaper running in the background, you can get some pretty nice scores:
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Various roms, kernels, no telling really what at the time, but pretty much in line. There's something wrong with the Rom you're on, or your setup if you can't get good benches with this phone, IMHO.
What ROM, kernel, are you running, and what's a 'bad' score in your book?
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I love it when people jizz over benchmark scores. Like justj said, try some apps, games, and movies. If they run fantastically, then you're phone is running great, and you don't need to worry about silly benchmark numbers.
Real Use >>>>>>> Benchmarks
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Ah, thank you... I'll turn off everything but the benchmarking app, and get back to you with the scores... As for "bad score" well, I'd expect it to beat my tablet (Tegra2, 1024*600 resolution) as well as the LG 2X, Atrix, Optimus 3D, and most of the newer phones on the market, really. Which it at present doesn't do. It gets beaten by the Nexus S in some benchmarks!
Video and games and so on run pretty fast and smooth, so overall I'm happy and don't place TOO much weight on benchmarks. I just find it odd, because benchmarks to certain degree DO reflect real world performance.
I'll get back to you with scores and which ROM etc. Off the top of my head, I remember it's running 2.3.4 Rogers ROM...
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Didn't know you had a GSM phone.... Those are capped at 80% of potential speed by the Canadian Government.
(Nah, j/k).
Good luck on outbenchmarking the LG2X... (you'll need it). Benchmarks can't save a bad phone, but if they could, that's where they'd start. I've seen multiple screens from multiple Lg2x users running CM7 with Quadrant Standard scores of over 5K. That's insane.
We'll probably never see that on an EVO3D, but it doesn't matter, because ultimately, the LG2X isn't half the phone at the end of the day.
Just my 2 cents.
Edit: If your tablet happens to be a Viewsonic Gtab, well, forget that notion as well. That basically is at the top of every benchmark 'top scores' list.
I've got one.
Is it fast?
Incredibly fast.
Would I trade it right now for a "slower" tablet that was a "better" tablet?
You betcha.
Righty o...
I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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I could always upload screenshots later if you think that might be a good idea, but here are some scores:
Antutu: 4442, which puts it behind both the S2, the Optimus 2X and the Motorola Xoom (!?!)
Nenamark 2 reported a somewhat respectable 25.6.
Smartbench 2011 (Supposedly the only benchmark suite that takes dualcore into consideration): Productivity: 2397 Games: 1650
(Which is behind the Transformer Tab and Atrix in both categories, and even behind the Nexus S and Galaxy S in Games)
Quadrant:1491 (Just ahead of Moto Droid X and Nexus One at 1250!)
Devicemark: 1325 (Equal to Desire HD, but behind the Atrix and LG 2X)
CF Bench: 8740, 1364, 4314 (Way behind both the Atrix and the Sensation?!)
I think that's it as far as the benchmarks I ran. I can upload the screenshots if you think it might help. As for the phone, it's a Rogers phone with the 2.3.4 Gingerbread, HTC software: 1.20.631.2
(BTW: What does "SMP PREEMPT" mean in the Kernel version?!?)
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There is something seriously wrong. The least you should be getting is around 2000-2500.
Yeah, I turned off background apps, etc. What scores do people with the Rogers ROM usually get? Would backing up and then a full restore to factory settings help?
I'm rooted btw, but didn't install an alternate rom.
No question that the gs2 benches well but after having one for a couple days I missed my 3d..I trade benches for a smooth and usable UI ..but ocd I can beat the gs2 in every bench app there is ..I never felt the supposed increase in speed that the epic has ..the 3d opened my apps faster and was more stable using games that utilized the gyro ie homerun baseball 3d ..almost unplayable on the gs2..our phones have plenty of power either way we have plenty of power on tap
Nope. Quadrant seems about right from what I remember with the Rogers ROM. Not much better with LeeDroid either.
Might have to do with the inability of GSM devs to tweak the kernel and overclock as HTC messed up the board files in the kernel sources they released for the GSM.
This is what I've got with aosp oc...
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And no, the tablet is an Iconia A100. Zippy little thing, though I don't understand how it can run corners around my Evo with a Tegra CPU and more pixels to push...
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Oooh... I'm VERY interested in the A100... I'm actually going to Best Buy today, as they finally have them in stock @~300$... But they have the Flyer as well at the same price...
The a100 IS sporting a dual-core Tegra2 A9 processor, is it not?
And since HC 3.2 in a brand-new device is probably optimized better, speed-wise, I, for one, would expect it to out-perform the 3d in a benchmark test, even @ 1000Mhz.
How do you like the A100, overall?
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No, you kinda lost, because you made anyone who might be interested download a dropbox file instead of just doing this:
EDIT: WHOOPS, Sorry dude... If I had noticed you were using drocap or whatever I would've understood your need to dropbox it.
Some of those market screenshot apps just do not work. Native screenshot works fine for me..END EDIT.
(whatevs, no biggie, lol.. Nice scores.. Which Rom/kernel combo is that, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm gonna just guess and say that's an OC'd aosp rom.
Yes?
mazook98 said:
How do you like the A100, overall?
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I actually really like it! When I was in the store, I let all the tablets do a sunspider test, and the A100 actually came out ahead of everybody, even the iPad2, so it IS a zippy little fella.
Anything in particular you'd like to know? The two cameras are just fine, the few times I used them for anything else than a webcam, they did the job fine.
Speakers are great and really loud. The screen is a bit on the dim side, but turning off the auto light in settings take care of that. It's really comfortable to hold, even for extended periods of time, even if the plastic might make it feel and look less than a premium product.
Batterylife is kinda meh, I usually don't get more than 5 hours out of it, but then again it's pretty rare that I take it somewhere where there isn't a charger around. The only thing I can think off that would require your tab to be on for 5 hours is a plane trip, and even most of those have chargers these days
The only caveat I would have, is that as a Evo3D owner a 7 inch screen might be a bit too small. I mean the difference between 7 and 4.3 inches isn't that big in daily use, and after getting the Evo I kinda find the 7 inch screen a bit on the small side. Might just be me though. If I had to choose any tablet today, I think I'd go for the Galaxy. The 10 inch size is just right, and it weighs pretty much the same as the A100, and since getting a tablet I've found out that weight means more in terms of portability than just size.
The only other thing I've found to be annoying would probably also apply to the Flyer: There aren't too many tablet apps available as it is, and the few tablet apps there are, aren't always compatible with 7 inch tabs. There are way more apps and games available for 10 inch tablets.
Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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Oh yeah, one more thing: The A100 is super easy too root. Took me like 5 mins. But the support for it is pretty poor. There's like no ROMs available for it at all, which I find really weird. Not yet anyways, but hopefully it'll gain some devs...
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BTW, I posted this somewhere else, and you may already know this trick, but if you wanna "revert your UI to Gingerbread" on an HC tablet (I did.... Just not into HC yet), and since you've already rooted, if you change your density to 171 (or above) , it will revert the ui to GB, (something you might be more used to, or like better) , while maintaining compatibility with those 3.0 apps.
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Hey guys, havent really ever posted much but here goes:
I just bought the note, and switched to at&t just for the phone, i absolutely love the idea of having a small tablet that fits in your pocket that also makes your calls.
but.....
I'm comming from sprint's galaxy s2 (epic 4g touch). That phone was superfast. I feel like this phone absolutely crawls in comparison, its laggy and jumpy and things just take so long to open up... switching between things isnt as instantaneuos as before.. Another surefire way i know that something is definitely worse is that before on my gs2 i was able to run adownloader, downloading as many as 4 torrents at a time without the phone slowing down to terribly and i was even able to watch avi videos normally while downloading. now, the phone comes to a complete stop.
Now, to be fair, i did root my sg2 a few months ago and installed a custom rom but i never overclocked it, but maybe thats why that phone was faster. could it be that when devs start making custom roms for this one it will "speed up"?
Because im sorry this phone is so laggy now.....
Make sure you don't have energy saver turned on that could be causing this
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mottyengel said:
could it be that when devs start making custom roms for this one it will "speed up"?....
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Yes, in fact.
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Make sure you don't have energy saver turned on that could be causing this
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This helped a lot. Tyvm.
I noticed that every once in a while I have to do a "clear memory" in the task manager to speed up the Note. Not sure what's going on, maybe a memory leak. It won't be long until we have ICS and I'm sure that will speed it up quite a bit.
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Make sure you don't have energy saver turned on that could be causing this
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You mean system power saving option? Or is there another option called energy saver? Just checking you never know.
There seem to be HUGE performance differences between the LTE notes. I got lucky and have a super fast one.
Everything, and I mean everything, is hardcore fast and super smooth. This note is faster than the H+ galaxy nexus and much faster than the SGS2 Skyrocket side-by-side. Quadrant (new) scores around 2900-3200 and I'm totally stock with no modifications. Apps open instantly, there is no waiting, no stuttering and if you search for my posts, you'll see my screenshots of over 5 hours of screen on time with over 21 hours of unplugged time in an LTE zone (Atlanta).
My point being: if your Note isn't working as I have just described, be aware that there are notes out there that do, mine being one of them. Go exchange it. When you get one that performs as it should, this is the fastest and best performing phone on the market currently. I've tested it side-by-side with the best.
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And yes, when roms start coming in, this phone will scream even more. Everyone *****ing about it not having an exynos. Here's a nugget of info: you can overclock the hell out of snapdragon, much more than exynos. Clock-for-clock exynos is faster but when devs jump in, snapdragon will be faster in the long run due to overclockability. You watch, this processor will break 2ghz and still have great battery life once smart processor scaling gets implemented into ROMs.
Hell, Da_G was near 2ghz (1.93) before the phone was officially publicly released. In time, these clocks will become stable.
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Stock benchmark...
was like 2500 on quadrant but then I rooted and used the overclock kernel and I'm at 3400...I don't know how people get 2900-3200 stock highly questionable. My friend got one the same day I did and his stock is at the exact same score about 2500.
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There seem to be HUGE performance differences between the LTE notes. I got lucky and have a super fast one.
Everything, and I mean everything, is hardcore fast and super smooth. This note is faster than the H+ galaxy nexus and much faster than the SGS2 Skyrocket side-by-side. Quadrant (new) scores around 2900-3200 and I'm totally stock with no modifications. Apps open instantly, there is no waiting, no stuttering and if you search for my posts, you'll see my screenshots of over 5 hours of screen on time with over 21 hours of unplugged time in an LTE zone (Atlanta).
My point being: if your Note isn't working as I have just described, be aware that there are notes out there that do, mine being one of them. Go exchange it. When you get one that performs as it should, this is the fastest and best performing phone on the market currently. I've tested it side-by-side with the best.
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I pretty much agree with this guy. My note performs absolutely flawlessly. I have root, but have not installed overclocked kernel or overclocking apps. Even with a live wallpaper running, my device seems to fly by. @OP Possibly a resource hogging app?
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was like 2500 on quadrant but then I rooted and used the overclock kernel and I'm at 3400...I don't know how people get 2900-3200 stock highly questionable. My friend got one the same day I did and his stock is at the exact same score about 2500.
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Get on YouTube. Go look up the phonedog ATT Galaxy Note review. In it, the quadrant benchmark score is 1700ish, he's using totally stock software with static wallpaper. Yours, at 2500 was 800 over his. Quadrant fluctuations? Random variables? Different note performance? My claim of 2900-3200 shouldn't be "questionable", as if your incinuating I'm lying, when there is already 800 points difference between a huge YouTube reviewer and yours.
I hate benchmarks. Don't care what they say as I find it rarely relates to real-performance. Already have quadrant uninstalled from my note. Yet people use it and live by it, so when discussing performance, I have no choice but to use it for comparison. My note absolutely screams and if yours doesn't, something, somewhere, is wrong.
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Stock rooted skyrocket..ad blocked is only thing done with root.
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It won't be long until we have ICS and I'm sure that will speed it up quite a bit.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Besides, using golauncher works 100% on this 2.3 version, which for the most part is as stable as they get. I'm not convinced ICS has much to offer outside of a slick GUI. And that's GL does anyway
I got the same speeds this thing.is stupid fast ...all stock
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There seem to be HUGE performance differences between the LTE notes. I got lucky and have a super fast one.
Everything, and I mean everything, is hardcore fast and super smooth. This note is faster than the H+ galaxy nexus and much faster than the SGS2 Skyrocket side-by-side. Quadrant (new) scores around 2900-3200 and I'm totally stock with no modifications. Apps open instantly, there is no waiting, no stuttering and if you search for my posts, you'll see my screenshots of over 5 hours of screen on time with over 21 hours of unplugged time in an LTE zone (Atlanta).
My point being: if your Note isn't working as I have just described, be aware that there are notes out there that do, mine being one of them. Go exchange it. When you get one that performs as it should, this is the fastest and best performing phone on the market currently. I've tested it side-by-side with the best.
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Just out of curiosity, what color is your Note?
My GF has the white one, and I have the carbon blue one. Just like you, hers keeps hitting quadrant scores of 2800 +, reaching up to ~ 3100. Mine has topped at 2800, hitting usually ~ 2500.
Needless to say, quadrant isn't very consistent, and hers sometimes hits around 2300, but mine has never gone over 2800.
I know that benchmark scores are in no way a reliable way of measuring a device's performance, but after paying a hefty price for the phone, and seeing that one next to mine which was also purchased at the exact same time and has the exact same specs is getting a consistent "better performance", makes me wonder if I should ask for an exchange.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Forgot to mention, the overall phone performance seems to be smoother on her Note. Mine has some lag, mostly on the home screen, whereas hers barely lags at all.
I have the Black one, and it is laggy as hell. I mean horrible. Like I keep debating taking it back.
Anyway, my quadrant is always around 2500.
Color
backtothemac said:
I have the Black one, and it is laggy as hell. I mean horrible. Like I keep debating taking it back.
Anyway, my quadrant is always around 2500.
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OK. can we get a poll here, i guess i should start a new thread for this, but mine is black and laggy as hell to. can people post their colors? Best buy said that they dont exchange for color though.. not sure what to do..
Before root and rom/kernal, Note was laggy at times, tried adw (much better) and go launcher (better) then I rooted and rom'ed and I got 3842 running the oc Kernal, its flying! I will say stock though the skyrocket I had was faster, no lag at all
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OK. can we get a poll here, i guess i should start a new thread for this, but mine is black and laggy as hell to. can people post their colors? Best buy said that they dont exchange for color though.. not sure what to do..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517550
Here is a link to a post with a poll related to what we are discussing.
thanks so much!
So... I have been struggling to get rid of home screen lag on this device. I am now down to about 5 Widgets and only 2 home screens populated and I still have to consistently wait for the home screen to populate. Sometimes it takes 6-7 seconds, which Is really annoying. Anyway I downloaded memory booster to keep the ram cleaned up, and it indicates that I only have 768mb, not the advertised 1gb. On my xyboard it indicates the correct amount... did I get a bad device or has anyone else noticed this too? In my experience 768 just isn't enough to get a snappy experience in ics so I am pretty worried about this.
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I think we may only have 768MB but I cannot find any proof of it, and no one else has been able to provide any proof...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506603&highlight=1gb
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The Samsung Captivate only has 384MB of real system RAM. NOT the 512MB it was said to have.
.....and the Infuse had 452 Avail......
My unlocked note has 800mb free while my att note has 768mb free..not to mention my unlocked note gets way better battery life and doesn't lag. I wanted to stay with the att version but too many issues. Unlike my skyrocket which was flawless. Maybe att needs to push out an update for the note to smooth it out.
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That's a big let down... great that att took an awesome device and completely gimped it. Sigh.
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Well it seems that the note does have 1gb of ram but 300mb of that is inactive?? How do we activate it!!!! lol If you download and install quadrant and look at the information tab all the way at the bottom it has ram information and this is what it says. if it really is inactive im not happy because we need all the ram we can get, i sure it would help out with the lag.
I think you need to hard reset your device. I am using the stock launcher and have no lag whatsoever. Yes it is 768mb but that's enough. I froze all my non needed apps BTW.
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So... I have been struggling to get rid of home screen lag on this device. I am now down to about 5 Widgets and only 2 home screens populated and I still have to consistently wait for the home screen to populate. Sometimes it takes 6-7 seconds, which Is really annoying. Anyway I downloaded memory booster to keep the ram cleaned up, and it indicates that I only have 768mb, not the advertised 1gb. On my xyboard it indicates the correct amount... did I get a bad device or has anyone else noticed this too? In my experience 768 just isn't enough to get a snappy experience in ics so I am pretty worried about this.
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The missing ram is used by the system core.u can fix the lag by using a cpu app and set min speed to 500mhz at boot.
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The missing ram is used by the system core.u can fix the lag by using a cpu app and set min speed to 500mhz at boot.
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Where is the proof though?
We have 1gb. My ateix showed the same thing
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256K is used as video ram and system stuffs. All smat phones are using a portion of the ram for system. Galaxy S has 512K ram but only 377K is used for apps.
Edit: K->M
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I think odds are that 256mb is being used by the gpu. There is no such thing as the kernal 'hiding' ram. Unfortunate thought that the gpu doesnt have its own discrete memory.
I have a sensation with the revolution HD rom. In gingerbread it was absolutely the fastest GUI I have ever used on an android device. In ICS, though, its slower. 768mb of ram just isnt enough to take advantage of android. Again, sigh.
I, also, have frozen more apps than I have seen anyone else post yet. Still consistently sitting at about 560-600mb used.
It does have 1gb of RAM but the OS uses the other 200-something. Even my skyrocket and hercules had the same amount. if you use CM then it frees up some more space. Also, how is 700mb+ ram not enough? o-o I've NEVER seen mine go over 550 used out of the total available, no matter how many apps I'm running. I also read that in Android/Linux, the ram that isn't used is useless so the more ram it uses the better (I may be wrong on that?)
Not to jack this thread; but really where is the proof?! Just because someone says it does, does not mean it does... I do not know if it does or does not have 1GB of RAM but I think we all want to know...
Here is some proof that the Samsung Captivate really only has 384MB of traditional RAM...
http://sean-the-electrofreak.blogspot.com/2010/12/mystery-solved-how-samsung-pulls-off.html
I have been looking for something like this regarding the Note...
According to what I have read... the way linux/android uses memory is nothing like windows... as long as there is enough to run the program... everything is fine... not like in windows where things run better with more memory free...
My guess on your lag is that you have something in the background eating up cpu cycles...
Maybe watchdog might give you some more information?
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I have zero lag with TW launcher, but considerable lag with launcher pro plus.
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loudog3114 said:
In ICS, though, its slower. 768mb of ram just isnt enough to take advantage of android. Again, sigh.
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The Galaxy Nexus reports 768mb of RAM, and it runs ICS just fine.
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According to what I have read... the way linux/android uses memory is nothing like windows... as long as there is enough to run the program... everything is fine... not like in windows where things run better with more memory free...
My guess on your lag is that you have something in the background eating up cpu cycles...
Maybe watchdog might give you some more information?
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This guy here is correct. In android the more RAM won't speed up performance of the OS. Android is not designed like windows. Killing apps will increase battery life, but not performance.
The note DOES have 1gb or ram. A portion of it is inactive UNTIL the point you use up all your available 732mb of RAM (which is no easy task considering how the OS closes inactive apps in exchange for another). This is probably done so that the OS is not wasting hardware resources for no reason.
So in all, RAM itself is not the reason your phone has performance issues. Their may be a particular app causing a cpu problem. I would also consider maybe using a higher clock speed maybe? Although I have not done so myself and my note runs great.
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I am running MIUI. Not as fast as I want it to be.
Which ROM for utter, sheer speed?
I can't stand it when I am waiting for the phone....
willing to sacrifice it all, for the sake of responsiveness !
Help !
Should I just get stock rom? that is, roms based on Froyo will be faster?
unfortunately, there's seems to be an inherent delay in ICS. of all the ICS flavors i've tried, Doc's V6 seems to be the snappiest, although only after extensive tweaking. get rid of menu transitions, disabled scrolling cache, etc.
since ICS isn't officially supported, and probably won't ever be, I think 2.2 & 2.3 brews will be better optimized. I just came from a non-recognizable Bionix 1.3.1, custom handling of the framework, and was hoping to flash the lovely Bionix Blackout theme, but the author never got back to me.
as of this moment, i'm on WeUI 1.0. I may go back to 2.2 for one reason: Speakerphone. I've yet to find an ICS rom/kernel combo that doesn't screw up speakerphone. The mute/unmute bug seems to still be prevelant, although not as annoying.
I'm using Passion V13.1 clocked at 1.4ghz. My phones handles the OC without crashing. I've disabled many of the pretty things and I have 0 lag. Its been great.
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I'm using ICS Zen 1.6 with Subzero #70
100% Supercharged - Overclocked.
Zero Lag.
I'm on Slim 3.4. I don't use any OC, but the phone is plenty zippy. The only thing that seems to lag is on startup while it scans for all the apps that I have moved to SD. Once that is done, I don't have any speed issues.
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Nobody here is right.... i love.my.bionix and passion but neither of them were ever fast.. cm7 was always mindblowingly fast.... like godly.. with glitch,.you can oc.to 1.65ghz and oc the graphics processor even tho stock speed was already faster than ics and froyo at 1.4ghz..
Seriously, cm7 is cleeearly faster by a mile..
For comparison, i got around 1600 on quadrant benchmark and about 15 on linpack highest on ics and froyo.... almost 3200 and 25 on cm7 highest
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Nobody here is right.... i love.my.bionix and passion but neither of them were ever fast.. cm7 was always mindblowingly fast.... like godly.. with glitch,.you can oc.to 1.65ghz and oc the graphics processor even tho stock speed was already faster than ics and froyo at 1.4ghz..
Seriously, cm7 is cleeearly faster by a mile..
For comparison, i got around 1600 on quadrant benchmark and about 15 on linpack highest on ics and froyo.... almost 3200 and 25 on cm7 highest
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Performance varies from device to device. While cm7 might be faster for some (I used cm7 for almost a year) but the speed was nothing compared to Zen for me right now. Benchmark means very little in actual performance, so it isn't something you can really rely on in regards to how fast the phone will actually be.
Yea ICS is a pain.
For those that say you have no lag.
1:you have 1-4 apps
2:you don't use to its full extent
3:you don't like having a nice user experience.(which is why you disabled everything)
4:you obviously don't know what a smartphone is used for.
Lag is present in a lot of ICS ...you need to do a lot of tweaking for it to be vanished and even then a little hiccup will be available which is fine nothings perfect...it just gets to me when people say they have days without charging their phone and claim to have "zero lag"
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Yea ICS is a pain.
For those that say you have no lag.
1:you have 1-4 apps
2:you don't use to its full extent
3:you don't like having a nice user experience.(which is why you disabled everything)
4:you obviously don't know what a smartphone is used for.
Lag is present in a lot of ICS ...you need to do a lot of tweaking for it to be vanished and even then a little hiccup will be available which is fine nothings perfect...it just gets to me when people say they have days without charging their phone and claim to have "zero lag"
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Not true, actually.
1. I have over 150 apps on my phone right now
2. I certainly do. Lots of streaming, DLing, gaming, messaging, emailing, etc
3. I have most all my settings enabled atm, only thing I don't have is a pretty live wallpaper lol (but occasionally I do turn one on for a few weeks)
4. And that would be?
I get nearly 2 days worth of battery on ICS Zen with the stock battery.
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That was day one of my flash, and I didn't use my phone very much as you can see...but even still, it had good life on the first day...the battery life has improved substantially since then (as it tends to once the rom settles) Now, I am constantly using my phone, and I can "usually" get about 36-38 hours on one charge.
It's the only ICS rom that has had no lag for me, whatsoever, and has excellent battery performance. I am speaking from my perspective, not any one else's. Phone's vary from devices to device...making a swooping claim like, "all ics roms are buggy and lag" is just silly. Just because your device lags on certain roms, doesn't mean that the performance of the rom is reflected by your experience.
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Not true, actually.
1. I have over 150 apps on my phone right now
2. I certainly do. Lots of streaming, DLing, gaming, messaging, emailing, etc
3. I have most all my settings enabled atm, only thing I don't have is a pretty live wallpaper lol (but occasionally I do turn one on for a few weeks)
4. And that would be?
I get nearly 2 days worth of battery on ICS Zen with the stock battery.
That was day one of my flash, and I didn't use my phone very much as you can see...but even still, it had good life on the first day...the battery life has improved substantially since then (as it tends to once the rom settles) Now, I am constantly using my phone, and I can "usually" get about 36-38 hours on one charge.
It's the only ICS rom that has had no lag for me, whatsoever, and has excellent battery performance. I am speaking from my perspective, not any one else's. Phone's vary from devices to device...making a swooping claim like, "all ics roms are buggy and lag" is just silly. Just because your device lags on certain roms, doesn't mean that the performance of the rom is reflected by your experience.
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Yea sorry.....ICS Zen is awesome for me as well....most of the other still not for me.
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Xenoism said:
Not true, actually.
1. I have over 150 apps on my phone right now
2. I certainly do. Lots of streaming, DLing, gaming, messaging, emailing, etc
3. I have most all my settings enabled atm, only thing I don't have is a pretty live wallpaper lol (but occasionally I do turn one on for a few weeks)
4. And that would be?
I get nearly 2 days worth of battery on ICS Zen with the stock battery.
That was day one of my flash, and I didn't use my phone very much as you can see...but even still, it had good life on the first day...the battery life has improved substantially since then (as it tends to once the rom settles) Now, I am constantly using my phone, and I can "usually" get about 36-38 hours on one charge.
It's the only ICS rom that has had no lag for me, whatsoever, and has excellent battery performance. I am speaking from my perspective, not any one else's. Phone's vary from devices to device...making a swooping claim like, "all ics roms are buggy and lag" is just silly. Just because your device lags on certain roms, doesn't mean that the performance of the rom is reflected by your experience.
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Tbh.though, i dont see how a rom would lag for one phone and not on another... makes.little sense tto me.
And i havent tried.zen.but.is it really that different from passion?
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Tbh.though, i dont see how a rom would lag for one phone and not on another... makes.little sense tto me.
And i havent tried.zen.but.is it really that different from passion?
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Hardware varies greatly from one device to the next...thats why some people can undervolt crazy values, and others can undervolt very little....same with overvolting and everything in between.
And, I ran passion for a few months....Zen is like a new experience in my opinion.
Yea I couldn't under volt past -25 else it froze
Can some one please explain why i see only 779 Mb of memory on my Galaxy S3
The rest is reserved for graphics
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out of 1024 mb only 778 or 779 is available for user because the rest is reserved for hardware and graphics
There's a recent topic by devoted developer Andreilux in original android development section regarding this issue, you should check it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856133
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Thank you everyone for the clarification.
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There's a recent topic by devoted developer Andreilux in original android development section regarding this issue, you should check it.
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wow thanks . imissed this thread
This is why I was so pissed when they gave the US versions of the SGS III 2GB of ram instead of the regular 1GB.
I know it only has a dual core but we could really use that extra GB...
Out of the 779, almost 550-600 MB are used, even during bootup.
Why?
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Out of the 779, almost 550-600 MB are used, even during bootup.
Why?
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It's not used its being cached, that's the way android handles memory. Free memory = wasted memory in Android.
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bala_gamer said:
It's not used its being cached, that's the way android handles memory. Free memory = wasted memory in Android.
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Great but why multitasking in S3 is so f****d up compaired to s2?! For example if you let opera to download a bigger file in background you will have one surprise: download will fail cause the task manager will kill the app. This is not happening in s2. Or if you are playing a game and you receive a phone call if you speak more then, let's say 10 minutes the game is killed. Also not happening in s2.
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We have a bigger screen, more resolution, a bigger cpu and gpu etc. 1 gb of ram unfortunately simply is not enough for a quality multi taking. Please note Samsung has just announced Galaxy Note 2 with 2 gb of ram! So, instead of fine tuning ram with low level optimizations why not more muscle said they.
There are a few ways to free some ram and use a swap file to maximize ram usage. I got perfect results with hard swap and now waiting for a compatible kernel for JB.
Meanwhile please have a look at these topics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812668 and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814311
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I've been meaning to ask about this.
I keep getting redraw in the chrome browser which in turn loses the place I was reading. I'll come out of chrome and open up 2 apps (just recreated it by opening twitter and tv guide) then go back in chrome which will then refresh the page.
Is this a problem with memory usage or the launcher being useless (I'm running apex)?
I am rooted but it happened before root
Im using Apex and the same happens with me when using chrome sometimes. It doesnt refresh just redraws the screen, as if i manually refresh there is new data viewable on the page which wasnt there last time i was looking
I am using Galaxy S series from the beginning for years and I kind a feel like Samsung development team decided to move slightly different than we, the customers, wanted. I think somewhere along the road a guy from marketing department told them that it is better to come with new apps in each new phone than to polish what we have in hand. It may sound firm on paper but it sucks in real life. Now, I don't want to insult Samsung software developers in any way or to undermine their efforts in these devices but it's clear every time we have apps working with 75% productivity which is like updating your living room furniture without assembled with all texture for example. I don't want a phone with half baked, new and used applications but a device which is fully optimized.
I'll give you a very simple example: First Galaxy S came with Wolfson audio chip on it, which has still a very good quality. But there was a great place for improvement and a qualified developer, Supercurio, came with Voodoo sound which some of still use it to listen to music. It was that quality. Samsung decided to work with Yamaha in Galaxy S 2 which produced silly and funny results as we all know, which was a big mistake from Samsung team. Now they have included again Wolfson chipset in S 3, which is great. Now what do you expect as an ordinary customer? Samsung uses Wolfson again, they know very well about Supercurio and great Voodoo sound but instead of utilizing him we find that nothing has been done on Samsung side to utilise this. It's like giving a customer a live, unbucked chicken in a restaurant and to say him eat it himself. What is funny here, in ICS Siyah kernel, developer Gökhan Moral, used some parts of voodoo sound code and voila we have a way better sound in our S 3 devices with a two and half years of code. While we, the excited users are trying to get more from our devices the head of developers are sitting in Samsung center thinking about what a useless thing can I bring on the table next time instead of getting it better.
It's the same from the beginning in screen, memory, etc. The did choose not use a simple notification led stubbornly and deliberately for two phone versions for Christ's sake. And we are still waiting for Supercurio to come up with Display Expert who has been working on it for about two years for better color production, contrast, image quality etc. It's funny that many custom kernels use the feature for improving fonts readability. What I am saying is, it's Samsung who should be dealing with these fine tuning things in order for the customer to get the best benefit from the device, not excited developers. It seems to me Samsung is paying a useless salary to many people in software development.
Sorry, it's been a long post but this is what I feel about three years of Samsung experience. The reason I can not get angry to other manufacturers is that they just can't get a quality hardware. So there's not a place for development much in HTC, Sony, Motorola or LG products. Samsung comes with great hardware and spoils it by following HTC; they also used so much energy and time on Touch3D - Sense interface and forgot to improve the rest of the device. Samsung puts too much and unimportant effort to Touchwiz and forgets the rest software.
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Im using Apex and the same happens with me when using chrome sometimes. It doesnt refresh just redraws the screen, as if i manually refresh there is new data viewable on the page which wasnt there last time i was looking
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Yeah it's not great problem but it's a bit of ballache, I am thinking about flashing a different rom but waiting until JB has been released so maybe that will solve the problem.
puiradu2009 said:
Great but why multitasking in S3 is so f****d up compaired to s2?! For example if you let opera to download a bigger file in background you will have one surprise: download will fail cause the task manager will kill the app. This is not happening in s2. Or if you are playing a game and you receive a phone call if you speak more then, let's say 10 minutes the game is killed. Also not happening in s2.
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Regardless of the mobile higher memory utilization will trigger task killing in the background, s2 didn't had this problem because it consumed less memory. S3 uses more memory, but still by tweaking it properly you can minimise taks killing. Disabling some unwanted apps in stock rom will release more memory and thus in turn reduce the chances of task getting killed.
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It's not used its being cached, that's the way android handles memory. Free memory = wasted memory in Android.
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thats not true at all free ram not wasted ram , when the system start to kill apps and launcher u will not be happy at all :silly::silly: