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Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
sdardz said:
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Job done.
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Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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d3l1 said:
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.
So i flashed a insecure kernel and rooted my phone. In the guide i followed it stated that if i reflash th stock kernel the root will still be on my phone but the yellow triangle will go away. So i did that and the root disappeared.
If i go into download mode it says :custom binary download : counting 1 or something like that
Is my warranty voided even if i unrooted?
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olawp said:
So i flashed a insecure kernel and rooted my phone. In the guide i followed it stated that if i reflash th stock kernel the root will still be on my phone but the yellow triangle will go away. So i did that and the root disappeared.
If i go into download mode it says :custom binary download : counting 1 or something like that
Is my warranty voided even if i unrooted?
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Yes you have now voided you warranty, if you re-root your phone then you can use a cool app by chainfire that will remove the triangle and it will reset your counter, so they wont know you have tampered with your phone keeping your warranty intact.
Click here for app, make sure it will work on you phone and that you have ICS firmware.
s.d.oconnor said:
Yes you have now voided you warranty, if you re-root your phone then you can use a cool app by chainfire that will remove the triangle and it will reset your counter, so they wont know you have tampered with your phone keeping your warranty intact.
Click here for app, make sure it will work on you phone and that you have ICS firmware.
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This, just be very careful with it! It can potentially perma brick your phone
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Hey guys
I have an SIII with a custom rom and kernel, yet I dont get the yellow triangle on the main booting screen?
I havent installed triangle away either, its strange because surely it should be there with any "non official" software.
Im not complaining, just curious, anyone shed any light?
Thanks
SGS3 does not show the warning triangle, but if you boot into download mode, you will see the binary flash count.
Also check: phone menu / settings / about device / status / device status >> modified ??
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This is an interesting question, and I'd been wondering this myself recently.
If the only "side effect" of flashing ROMs is an increasing counter on a screen that we hardly ever see, then unless we need to return our phones for warranty repairs, then we don't need to do anything?
Or does the counter have a maximum value after which the phone can't be flashed?
It only works with certain firnware it wont for example work with LF2..
The counter is only FYI and for warranty claims.
It won't affect your phone's behaviour and will go back to 0 (or 1) if the counter reaches the maximum value for (unsigned?) integer values.
You don't need to do anything. My guess is that the reason for most people attempting to reset the counter in S2 is that they were annoyed by the yellow triangle, so they got rid of it.
d4fseeker said:
The counter is only FYI and for warranty claims.
It won't affect your phone's behaviour and will go back to 0 (or 1) if the counter reaches the maximum value for (unsigned?) integer values.
You don't need to do anything. My guess is that the reason for most people attempting to reset the counter in S2 is that they were annoyed by the yellow triangle, so they got rid of it.
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Yes, reason was for triangle, but also to reset the counter. As most users of custom ROM flashing an insecure kernel did it via CWM recovery, the counter didn't increase. So if you need to return for warranty, just flash stock firmware with Odin. Done.
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So the only use for triangle away for the SIII is to reset the flash counter?
Bit confused by some of the replies
strongylad28 said:
So the only use for triangle away for the SIII is to reset the flash counter?
Bit confused by some of the replies
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Yes. This is because if the binary counter is >0 then your warranty will be void if you send it to Samsung. Reset it (and flash stock firmware) and nobody is none the wiser.
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
fomofo said:
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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CWM triggered the increase.
fomofo said:
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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CreekDirt said:
CWM triggered the increase.
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Hi,
I also installed just CWM and SuperSU. As CreekDirt say, that set my Flash Count to 1, and Device Status to "Modified". So i used Triagle Away, and my Flash Count now shows as 0/not present/official, but the Device Status still show "Modified".
How can i fix the Device Status?
All you have to do is to wipe factory/data and cache then you will get the normal status on your phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEsBwtqY2xE cjheck this video too
Hi,
Thanks for replying. I don't want to unroot. I wanted to clear the "modified" status, but keeping CWM + Root. Is that possible?
Nope
Hi Diaze,
Thanks for replying. I also thought that such would not be possible, until i saw this in another forum (Local Brazil community) about that same matter.
Rafael said:
@pedrohp that must be isolated or related to your current ROM. I'm using WanamLite ICS XXALF2 V1.2 + SiyahKernel S3-v1.2.6 and after Triagle Away, my flash count shows as 0 and Device Status show as Unchanged
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What do you think?
so he rooted and then he installed a custom rom and the counter was still at 0 hard to believe but wait for some more answers
Diaze said:
so he rooted and then he installed a custom rom and the counter was still at 0 hard to believe but wait for some more answers
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No, he Rooted, installed custom an then used Triagle Away to reset the counter.
jonny68 said:
It only works with certain firnware it wont for example work with LF2..
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im on LF2 & it worked for me, counter 0 status normal
goodie said:
im on LF2 & it worked for me, counter 0 status normal
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and without loosing root?
You don't loose root from using triangle away! Flashing LF2 lost root but then used CF–root
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Is warranty off if i just root and don't change ROM?
Yes ..... if you are rooting your phone means your warranty is gone........
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rockondudu said:
Yes ..... if you are rooting your phone means your warranty is gone........
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Nops.... If u able to make flash counter to zero then your warranty will back then it does not matter you are rooted or not.
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Yes ....
If we manage to do flash counter zero then warranty not void........
And we can use triangle away application for doing flash counter zero.......
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Plain truth of the matter is root = void warranty even with a reset counter as you have not removed root .
So you remove root by flashing a stock rom .Reset rom counter and check status is not custom .
Also check in settings about phone that its not showing as modified .Plus delete any root apps like CWM or TA or Superuser .
The Samsung letter to service personal regrading void warranty and what to look for is freely available on the internet .
jje
endrit9 said:
Is warranty off if i just root and don't change ROM?
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According to this thread, if you live in Europe, rooting doesn't necessarily cancel your warranty. Samsung would have to prove that rooting played some role in your phone's problem. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
The article is correct but not complete.
In the first year the seller has to prove you caused the issue, in the second one you actually have to be able to prove you didn't.
However the simple fact is that:
- if the phone fully boots you can flash stock rom and reset the counter as normal. If necessary through an external USB keyboard if touchscreen is broken
- if the phone only gets into recovery but cannot be flashed, a correct TriangleAway will have taken care of setting it to a nice 0.
The "device modified" in the real system cannot be accessed since it won't boot obviously.
- if the phone doesn't turn at all (even with JIG) the "device modified" cannot be access either.
There's still a possibility of the repair service manually checking the filesystem for the telltale modifications, but the risk is rather very slim.
What about If I flashed cm10 then go to.Sammy service center
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Custom rom = warranty fail .
Its also easy enough for Samsung to defend the custom rom warranty rejection under EU law as they may well show firmware is not tested .
jje
If root than warrenty will b void. If want warrenty thn unroot ur phone & also reset counters.
Press thnx if helped!!!
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My wife's S3 keeps getting the clipboard bug, so she finally agreed to let me root it. However I don't want to increment the flash counter or use Triangle-away. I notice the US-based S3 models have su and SuperSu injected to stock kernels/recoveries so those can be flashed directly from stock recovery, any such thing for the international i9300 (currently on 4.1.1)?
When I rooted my S2 a year ago I used heimdall (Linux) and didn't bother much about the counter, while my recent Galaxy Tab 7.7 root used the original built-in recovery and was dirt-easy (along with not modifying anything stock). Is there anyway to do similar on the S3?
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
freddy1991 said:
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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I'm looking for a way which won't require that.
Glebun said:
why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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They can't deny warranty if they don't know. If the counter is clean I can just delete SuperSu.apk and su and there'll be no trace.
Regardless, this isn't primarily about warranty, as I've gotten my rooted (yellow triangle) S2 warrantied here before. My wife wants as low-risk an approach as possible, and I'm simply trying not to get into trouble
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
jje
Glebun said:
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
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As I said, I don't have a problem with it...
JJEgan said:
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
jje
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Getting mobile odin on requires root in the first place I think, so that's a bit of a catch 22.
You cannot reset the counter if you don't use TA.
what's risk are you talking about?
Yeah... what's wrong with just rooting, then TA?
If ever you need warranty, odin a stock rom and you're golden.