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Well.... It has happened again... I get an OTA and the ish talking starts bout me holding back the "community"... So again I'm going to release the file I have... This time will be a little different though. I stated VERY clearly in the radio thread what I was doing and the fact that this OTA WILL NOT FLASH nor will anyone know wtf to do with it.... No one listened and instead ran their necks so F it.... Once you realize that there are several hundred .p patch files that will need to be applied to individual files, in succession, through 5 builds, then figuring out what kind of patches they are to begin with, then figuring out you need a specific binary to apply them, one you cant get, your on the right track.... Good luck with that... I'm sorry about this but honestly I'm tired of working on a device I don't even use, for days and days, with pneumonia mind you, for people to talk ish and complain about what I am doing. So I'm gonna leave it in the hands of the "well wishers" and let them take care of this for you guys... To those that havent *****ed, I apologize, but I'm pretty fed up with the amount of ignorance around here... So anyways, heres your OTA... Have fun with it and I will stop back by with an "I told you so" every now and then.... CR
Froyo Espresso OTA
lol im glad i have an epic. i just wanted to see what you were talking about in your twitter feed
People are still saying you're holding back from the community? Yeah, they're definitely ignorant. :/ I wasn't exactly around when this stuff was going on before, but I was lurking and even then it was pretty dumb.
Sorry that it has to happen this way, CR! Thank you for the work you've contributed thus far and all the great gifts you come bearing when you stop by.(Like this latest radio).
Well thanks to everyone who whines and *****es... a true dev comes along to help and you find a way to make him leave haha.. thanks CR for the work and trying mate. Good thing I'm getting new G2 on Tuesday
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This is really sad... damn ungrateful people...
Thanks for everything CR
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Well, I managed to update to this using some secret sauce, but I have now permanently lost root and S-OFF. Exploid and Rage Against the Cage-based exploits DO NOT WORK on this version of the kernel (2.6.32.29) included in this OTA.
On the plus side it does have USB/Wifi tethering built-in, so my need for root has dramatically decreased.
Just stick with whatever you have now until a new exploit comes out for >= 2.6.32.29, but don't hold your breath since it's unlikely ANY time soon.
:/ it is sad....at least you gave us the radio! And actually tried to patch the files! Thanks for all the work....hope you come back!
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There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
Wow CR this sux that people's ignorance has to stop us from getting froyo finally with flash possibilities. This sux...
Thanks Chief for all the hard work. I thought your last update was the best rom and didn't have any problems. I guess its time to upgrade.
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I am pretty sure I know who it was... If you read through the RADIO thread there are 2 or 3 that were practically begging for the files he had.
I wont call them out myself being that I DONT FOR SURE KNOW. but if you read through there you could possibly figure it out. I am not encouraging anything, but I am sure a few people around here know of a few ways that will have their ISP shut them down for a day or so....
atlmatt said:
There is a quick and simple solution to this problem and I think that most will agre that it is for the better of the community.\
First call these people out by name, post their PM's if any publicly
Then have their accounts suspended for no less than 30 days.
How dare someone make a statement like that, We got what 1 maybe 2 developers left with this device? Are you flipping kidding me? You asses are sitting there complaining about how the development on this device is dead, yet when someone has something, and is working n something you jump the freaking gun with stupid ill thought out comments.
So now it up to you lil ^itches that think you know everything to develop for this device. You wanted what he had released so freaking bad. So lets see what ya got... Hell there is no reason why you should not be able to crank out a working ROM with what he released by the of the day today.... I mean hell if you can't then YOU held back development of this phone.
XDA needs to do something about this.
The whole 10 post rule is BS. It does nothing
I think it needs to become a pay to play forum
I know thats not how it SHOULD be, and that it
COULD hinder development. but I DOUBT it.
Personally.....
CR your work is awesome, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for what you have done,
to the ^itches.... Thanks now I gotta go buy a new damn phone, that developers want to work on. Hopefully you are broke ass kids and cant afford a new one and will stay here and die with this forum, and phone. After all you started this...
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you took the words right out my mouth
Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Most of the people who wanted to see this zip released are not at all interested in actually running this rom. In fact, the more interesting bits are the sdio and tiwlan files that we might be able to fix the still-borked wifi in CM7.
Chiefz: nobody intended to give you ****, but there is absolute truth in the saying that many hands make light work. The more people looking at this, the more likely it is that it can be put to good use. The folks in #mytouchslide will be putting lots of eyes on this to see what outstanding issues we might be able to fix.
Thank you for releasing this and I'm sorry if you felt people were hassling you.
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Chief wasn't the only one being bugged about the files. I've got a crap load of PMs and tweets asking me for the ota. I'm doing my best to provide CR with the files he needs to get this working for you guys. Hell, I don't even have a slide. Did I have to contact Chief letting him in on the file? Nope. If you guys would have waited a day or 2, you probably would have had a working OTA. But no, you had to keep *****ing to me and CR.
Chief, if you still want the files, hit me up on G and ill grab them.
Krylon360™
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Thanks for the great help mate and as to CR if you read this hopefully you can understand that there is more good apples than the bad ones mate. Thanks either way with the final choice you make!
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Chiefz, don't listen to those noobs. You do a great job here and we all appreciate you as a hard working person that always brings good stuff to the forum and as a very good friend no matter what you do.
Thanks for all
Damn whiny 12 year olds.. you can't escape their wrath!!
2.2.1 Rooted OTA..u will be missed.
i personally think this was a good move to shut the people up that dont know what they are doing (like myself, (-) the talking crap part). but now that you have made your point chiefz, you should really continue your work. you would have the praise of the community!
No this was not a good move. It has left so many of without any hope of ever making our phones just that much cooler, that much better...
I am pissed off to the point I am shopping for a new phone today
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that sucks, but i don't blame you. thanks for everything, mang.
I'm going to post this here because this is essentially where it all started, so I figure it's fitting.
This is basically an "Ending" to everything that happened on this thread Public Warning, Jaywan is Untrustworthy which is still up, but currently locked. I decided not to ask to have it opened again because I didn't want the chance for anything to be changed in that thread. Things got interesting at Page 30, and then started getting odd around the end. (Panda lol's)
In that thread I explained how my friend, and later 2 other people came forward stating that a phone being sold by a dev here was not shipped, and all communications stopped as soon as he received the money from each person. His explanation was that he went on vacation and left the shipping up to someone else. Page 28 he made an appearance, but, in my opinion, handled the comments from everyone else very poorly. by making threats of lawsuit, Tasteless jabs at the situation, and even an admission of insurance fraud
So, that is a recap of that thread... Oh, and did I mention Polar bears?
Here is how it all ended. Rugedraw was the only one that opted to go through with the purchase of "one" of the 3 he said he was selling. This is the message Rugedraw sent me on it's arrival "Hey, man.....I received the package today. The phone is as described. Boots up fine and has a 2.3.5-based Sense 3.5 rom on it. It even came included with an OEM HTC soft rubber case. I called Sprint and verified that the ESN is clean and the phone can be activated.
I have to say: I am 100% satisfied with the phone.
Who would of thought that last week, huh?"
So, he got what he paid for. But after everything, my friend and Faugnom1 weren't interested in possibly getting jerked around anymore and simply opted to have their money returned. Which Jaywan said in the thread he would do.
Paypal was never contacted by him on neither case. On Dallas's case, he had until Nov. 8th to respond or Paypal would rule in Dallas's favor. Which they did, He has had his money returned BY Paypal. faugnom1's case required a response on the 10th. This is what faugnom1 sent me:
faugnom1:"He said he would pay me by today, the same day my paypal thing is up. So if I dont hear from him in a few hours ill finalize the case.
Me:Did you just go thru withthe PayPal dispute?
faugnom1:Yeah never heard from him again after that one day. Paypal ruled in my favor.
So, Paypal disputed in both Dallas's and faugnom1's favor and they were both repaid.
on a personal note:Thank you to the community, the support was tremendous and I tried not to make it a witch hunt, and I know some Mods look down on this type of posting, but I felt it was being ignored and the post did bring 2 more people in who had the exact same thing happen. If everything is quietly handled, it allows the person to do it again, and then after that, maybe getting banned. If it's brought into the light I believe it serves the community better. If this happened to me, I went on vacation and left it all up to someone, I would feel horrible and give out as much info as possible. I don't want people to think I'm dishonest went I am not. It's not a matter of "IDGAF!!" it's a matter of "that's not who I am and I'll clear my name".
I'm baffled on how his account hasn't been banned (disabled and reenabled 2 times though). While, sure, this may have been all some big misunderstanding by some miracle of coincidences. Other members have been perma-banned for less. He made threats in a thread that was deleted by mods, made light of the situations, and was very combative and offered no forward explanation to anyone involved, only stating "if they want an explanation they can PM me" for someone who took 3 peoples money and then lost all contact with them, coming back with that attitude is shocking to say the least.
Thanks for filling us in.
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Glad peeps got their cash back and the one dude got a phone. Shady situation the whole way around.
I also want to thank everyone for their support. It's nice to know they're are good people on here since I am relatively new.
Thanks again
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Thanks for filling us in.
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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That was an epic thread Felacio. Even though it was a serios matter.... I had a lot of lols (polarbear .. thanks Sarge ).
Thanks for filling us in buddy!
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Great to hear things got settled finally. And yes, like everyone else said, that thread was the bomb.
Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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Because Jaywan's account is still NOT BANNED, I'm PM'd a MOD to see if he can take care of it (ie perma banning that fool)
I believe the mods have better things to do than permaban his retarded ass. Like banning people for posting bad pictures or threating banning for using bad language or for flaming or arguing. Cause that's much worse than some dip**** that steals peoples money and shows how much of a douche he is.
Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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I'm noticing that.
Tell a mod to "**** Off" = Perma Ban.
Steal money/commit fraud on members = Welcome back.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Maybe not banned... but something has happened to him since his last post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19052374#post19052374 was over 2 weeks ago. Maybe someone made good on their threat?
Mike
I noticed in the Wanting to Sell forum there is a way to leave feedback on a user. Felacio, you should leave some negative feedback on him so he doesn't try this stuff in the future.
Good to see everything got resolved man, that old thread was epic! Bear **** punch ftw!
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Before we get to business you gotta read my link about how we got s**t on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559943
@ Forum member "TheShackSpecialits" this is just for you!. I stated with EOL Sprint will never let us get ICS. You stated we will because manufactures control OTA updates. I then gave you several reasons why they dont. This, my friend is for you!!
Not only did this article verify what I said, It also gave Motorola a grade of "D", the lowest of ANY cell manfacture for doing OTA Upgrades. This has to bring up the question, who s**t on who?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-are-the-best-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Really you should name the title better as it gives people false hope.
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Motorola got my money for the last time. Many thanks to our devs for getting us ICS
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I'm confused about your logic on this and frankly it seems that your "I'll show you that we're screwed" attitude seems to make this irrelevant. But for the sake of anyone else reading this and getting utterly depressed that our amazing phone may not be getting ICS... well that's just incorrect. This page shows that ICS is currently in development (as opposed to "evaluation & planning") for the photon and is in the category of phones with at least 1GB of RAM, which I would like to consider promising.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Also the main complaint from the article you linked to was about delayed updating of the X2. I don't even know how much longer that's been out than the Photon b/c it's seems like a LONG time.
Anywho, stop being so d**n negative!
Plus we have awesome devs that have gotten us cm9 already, and stable much earlier than most phones so I guess I don't understand the severity of the problem if you're on this site.
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Before we get to business you gotta read my link about how we got s**t on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559943
@ Forum member "TheShackSpecialits" this is just for you!. I stated with EOL Sprint will never let us get ICS. You stated we will because manufactures control OTA updates. I then gave you several reasons why they dont. This, my friend is for you!!
Not only did this article verify what I said, It also gave Motorola a grade of "D", the lowest of ANY cell manfacture for doing OTA Upgrades. This has to bring up the question, who s**t on who?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-are-the-best-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
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So some guy named Brandon Russell regurgitates another writers article and you all are gung hoe? I have some land I would like to talk to you about
@ricky, read back S-L-O-W-L-Y. I have no issues with my Photon, none at all. I might jump for a new EVO, but thats beside the point. I have no problems with the Developers here, they do, and continue to do a great job. But, my Photon is GREAT.
If all of you take my first suggestion here, In my OP in the link about, my issues is with Sprint and the way they handled business! How do you put a EOL of a device thats not even a year old, but you continue to support the original EVO (although threated a few times to shelve it?) If it breaks in May, you do not get another Photon, you get a compatable device. yes, CM9 is great! if it breaks then, then what, you rooted it, so that's blown out the water.
The second link was to clarify 2 things. 1. if Sprint is going to EOL the Photon, they are not going to support it, PERIOD! (It they keep that promise). Therefore, the Q3 promise is, for the most part, dead. That user responded by telling me the motorola controls OTA upgrades. As that article stated, reguardless of carrier or device, these are controlled by the carrier, not the manfuacture.
Lastly, to comment on my last sentence in this original post, who s**t on who? Did Sprint crap on Motorola with not enough advertisement, support, ect. Or did Motorola crap on Sprint by making Development promises they could not keep and Sprint finally said "F" it?
Learn how to name your threads appropriately, please.
Moto said rollout starts in Q3 - Q3 has NOT started yet!
And I don't care at all "who did what to who". It's just a friggin' phone man!! I've got a dozen gathering dust in the bottom of my closet. Along with a dozen computers I've given to charities, friends and families over the years.
dsims7_2000 if you are that angry and bitter why dont you go to Verizon or ATT. I would like to see ICS on the photon to but no one ever geranteed that it would get it. If it does then thats great if not oh well we still have cm9.
Into y'all feelings much? .... Welp this is my last few posts for the photon as I have a epic touch too and going to be there for awhile.. Look guys I been here for awhile like back since the winmo days HTC cingular 8125 and tmo wing.. And since cm3 ppl been just needy complaining upset at things that shouldn't matter.. Look it's just a phone g1 users was messed over hero users and a few more.. Just appreciate the phone as is cause if GB was the last OS update these threads wouldn't be happening!
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If you have one for me ill take it
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Dude! Calm the F&#K down!
Moto has it officially listed as rolling out in Q3. Sprint is EOL-ing certain devices early just to make sure that all WiMax hardware is cleared out before LTE comes in so there's no confusion.
If you wanted WiMax to stick around and grow, you should've rallied more people to Sprint. Instead, everyone wanted the iPhone or they thought they could "hear everybody now" on Verizon. Now they're stuck in contracts with Data caps and insane bills. Meanwhile, we still have comparatively nice bills and unlimited data but we're all stuck with having to switch over to LTE and endure a massive network overhaul. *Shrug*
Really, the most confusion seems to be understanding what EOL actually means. It doesn't mean your phone is done with updates or that if you call support they won't help you, it mostly just means they're done selling/swapping it.
I suggest the OP re-read his linked article. It's not Sprint/USCC that's doing a crappy job of rolling out ICS, it's Motorola, which completely contradicts his claim. The carriers are certainly involved with testing and giving the final approval for OTA updates (and EOL status has nothing to do with that), but the gruntwork behind updates is done by the manufacturers.
FTR, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it takes Motorola this long to do updates. Their dev team and code infrastructure must be absolutely horrendous considering that a small group of amateur enthusiasts are able to produce mostly working ICS ROMs within a month or two of the release of ICS -- without manufacturer-provided driver updates.
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Really, the most confusion seems to be understanding what EOL actually means. It doesn't mean your phone is done with updates or that if you call support they won't help you, it mostly just means they're done selling/swapping it.
I suggest the OP re-read his linked article. It's not Sprint/USCC that's doing a crappy job of rolling out ICS, it's Motorola, which completely contradicts his claim. The carriers are certainly involved with testing and giving the final approval for OTA updates (and EOL status has nothing to do with that), but the gruntwork behind updates is done by the manufacturers.
FTR, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it takes Motorola this long to do updates. Their dev team and code infrastructure must be absolutely horrendous considering that a small group of amateur enthusiasts are able to produce mostly working ICS ROMs within a month or two of the release of ICS -- without manufacturer-provided driver updates.
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Could not have said it better myself.
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TurbulentEddie said:
Really, the most confusion seems to be understanding what EOL actually means. It doesn't mean your phone is done with updates or that if you call support they won't help you, it mostly just means they're done selling/swapping it.
I suggest the OP re-read his linked article. It's not Sprint/USCC that's doing a crappy job of rolling out ICS, it's Motorola, which completely contradicts his claim. The carriers are certainly involved with testing and giving the final approval for OTA updates (and EOL status has nothing to do with that), but the gruntwork behind updates is done by the manufacturers.
FTR, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it takes Motorola this long to do updates. Their dev team and code infrastructure must be absolutely horrendous considering that a small group of amateur enthusiasts are able to produce mostly working ICS ROMs within a month or two of the release of ICS -- without manufacturer-provided driver updates.
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I agree very well said
I have no worries about Motorola. As was stated before, Motorola said they are developing the update for the Photon and it should be out by Q3. I'm not worried about Sprint choosing to EOL the Photon. We are going to get ICS and I'd imagine that even if Sprint choose not to support ICS that Motorola would leak it to the community. You think all these SBFs were by accident?
OG epic still getting updates! I'll leave it at that
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The original freakin' Droid got an update a few months ago and it went EOL a loooooonnnng time ago.
It's crap like this thread that has led me to ignore the OP.
stonesaber said:
The original freakin' Droid got an update a few months ago and it went EOL a loooooonnnng time ago.
It's crap like this thread that has led me to ignore the OP.
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I agree. this post is bogus
dsims7_2000 said:
Before we get to business you gotta read my link about how we got s**t on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559943
@ Forum member "TheShackSpecialits" this is just for you!. I stated with EOL Sprint will never let us get ICS. You stated we will because manufactures control OTA updates. I then gave you several reasons why they dont. This, my friend is for you!!
Not only did this article verify what I said, It also gave Motorola a grade of "D", the lowest of ANY cell manfacture for doing OTA Upgrades. This has to bring up the question, who s**t on who?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-are-the-best-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
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Seriously.......i could respond to this but i would restate what everyone has said thus far. I work in S&R and there is a reason I said everything I did. Your still very wrong and its frustrating that your still on this track with multiple employees and contributors telling you , that you are very wrong. I wish i could pull the i-connect and cebu articles to prove you wrong but i cant because thats a violation of policy. You have provided me with alot of entertainment but now im going back to lurking unless im contributing. This whole thread and previous thread make me sad. To loki and other members thanks for your contributions.
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Dsparil said:
Motorola got my money for the last time. Many thanks to our devs for getting us ICS
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Sprints the reason you aren't getting it. It is Sprints phone, Motorola just made it for them. Like Foxconn makes iphones for Apple. If Sprint Eol the Photon and ends support also. There will be no official is. Im pretty sure Sprint can sue them if they released an oat update on Sprints network and their tailor made phone they paid to have made.
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Hi gang!
If you have seen my BBB complaint thread, then you should know by now that I complained to Motorola by filing a complaint with BBB. So, I was waiting for them to reply. And today they did and boy are you in a surprise here!
Sit back, buckle up. We are going on a wild ride!
The email was well written and addressed the two key concerns I raised.
Firstly, they informed me that they have done intensive testing and have concluded that Droid X2 is going to get ICS, eventually. The update page on Motorola's blog should be updated with this info in the next few weeks. They were actually planning to scrap the whole thing, but recently they received a hoard of BBB complaints from X2 users that they thought it is worth giving it a second look. Now, granted they claimed that to help X2 run the ICS update, they had to trim some stuff and features not only from ICS but from their own "value pack" Blur. I am all in for that! They said that a few Blur features that previously existed and are on other phones will be removed. Still they said there is no need to worry as the whole Blur experience isn't compromised,
As far as ICS is concerned, they are planning to cut down some of its features, notably voice dictation. Also, it seems that ICS is using the device's resources better anyways as the email claimed that they found significant performance improvements.
Furthermore, with regard to Bootloader, the email claimed that they are looking into it but can't give a whole lot of promises. Apparently they are in negotiations with VZW and are pushing hard, given that many customers are complaining and are taking similar steps and stands as the competition, such as HTC, to help make VZW buckle. It is interesting to note that the email acknowledges that HTC has been successful at unlocking the Bootloaders and Moto is trying to take a similar approach as "their competitors" to persuade VZW. The email stated that if the negotiations are successful, which should be known in a month, then they will release the unlock tool in a few weeks. The email also claims that the unlock tool is currently in development and testing, which hints that Motorola is optimistic on VZW buckling on pressure, else why will they waste their money on developing a tool that they will never release?
Finally, they acknowledged that a good number of customers do regularly complain on their Facebook, twitter pages or otherwise file complaints to them regarding bootloaders and that they are completely aware of the situation. They wish to go public after the negotiations with VZW and if VZW agrees, spread the good news to everyone while apologizing the huge delay of doing something they said they were gonna do a long time back. If VZW doesn't agree, they wish to make public the details of the negotiations so that customers understand that Motorola is as helpless as them.
Note that I paraphrased and elaborated a lot of what Motorola said in the email to clarify for you guys. The email they sent was terse, not as elaborate as this, yet clearly conveyed all of this info.
So, there we have it folks. At least ICS is on the way and we now know that Motorola is negotiating with VZW and developing the unlock tools. The fact that they are developing the tools suggest that they are optimistic of the outcome of the negotiations! But you never know, and if it doesn't work out, may be Melvin can leak the tools!!!
So, that is a LOT to digest! Have fun with this news and go crazy! I think all those guys who submitted a BBB complaint deserve kudos to pushing Moto to do the right thing. And big kudos to iBolski for starting it and fueling the momentum and being the inspiration for others!!!
CHEERS!!!*
*NOTE: Did I forget to say that this is an April Fool's joke!?? Oops. Sorry! (I mean I am not sorry at all! ) Happy April Fool's Day!!!! God, I am gonna burn for this!
Anyway, while you guys are eating sour grapes after being bamboozled by my prank, enjoy my actual ongoing fight with Motorola here!
Also on the plus side, we may get ICS/CM9 goodness this week from Dragonzkiller! http://goo.gl/dhXnn
I will find you. I will sever your prostate from your organs and feed it to you.
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I don't even know how to respond to this......
thelowend said:
I will find you. I will sever your prostate from your organs and feed it to you.
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I am very glad you liked it!
On the flip side, I just did this because the last few days have been reallllly slow and I wanted to do something fun. And I was actually surprised no one did this so far, given that we have experienced Melvin and all, I figured people will learn to prank more, especially on April 1.
Anyway, I am on your side. I filed a big complaint to Motorola that you can read here and I am waiting for Moto to reply.
So I am fighting the good fight! In the meantime, lets have some fun!
litetaker said:
I am very glad you liked it!
On the flip side, I just did this because the last few days have been reallllly slow and I wanted to do something fun. And I was actually surprised no one did this so far, given that we have experienced Melvin and all, I figured people will learn to prank more, especially on April 1.
Anyway, I am on your side. I filed a big complaint to Motorola that you can read here and I am waiting for Moto to reply.
So I am fighting the good fight! In the meantime, lets have some fun!
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It was very good; you had me whole time.
Well played sir, well played.
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litetaker said:
Hi gang!
If you have seen my BBB complaint thread, then you should know by now that I complained to Motorola by filing a complaint with BBB. So, I was waiting for them to reply. And today they did and boy are you in a surprise here!
Sit back, buckle up. We are going on a wild ride!
The email was well written and addressed the two key concerns I raised.
Firstly, they informed me that they have done intensive testing and have concluded that Droid X2 is going to get ICS, eventually. The update page on Motorola's blog should be updated with this info in the next few weeks. They were actually planning to scrap the whole thing, but recently they received a hoard of BBB complaints from X2 users that they thought it is worth giving it a second look. Now, granted they claimed that to help X2 run the ICS update, they had to trim some stuff and features not only from ICS but from their own "value pack" Blur. I am all in for that! They said that a few Blur features that previously existed and are on other phones will be removed. Still they said there is no need to worry as the whole Blur experience isn't compromised,
As far as ICS is concerned, they are planning to cut down some of its features, notably voice dictation. Also, it seems that ICS is using the device's resources better anyways as the email claimed that they found significant performance improvements.
Furthermore, with regard to Bootloader, the email claimed that they are looking into it but can't give a whole lot of promises. Apparently they are in negotiations with VZW and are pushing hard, given that many customers are complaining and are taking similar steps and stands as the competition, such as HTC, to help make VZW buckle. It is interesting to note that the email acknowledges that HTC has been successful at unlocking the Bootloaders and Moto is trying to take a similar approach as "their competitors" to persuade VZW. The email stated that if the negotiations are successful, which should be known in a month, then they will release the unlock tool in a few weeks. The email also claims that the unlock tool is currently in development and testing, which hints that Motorola is optimistic on VZW buckling on pressure, else why will they waste their money on developing a tool that they will never release?
Finally, they acknowledged that a good number of customers do regularly complain on their Facebook, twitter pages or otherwise file complaints to them regarding bootloaders and that they are completely aware of the situation. They wish to go public after the negotiations with VZW and if VZW agrees, spread the good news to everyone while apologizing the huge delay of doing something they said they were gonna do a long time back. If VZW doesn't agree, they wish to make public the details of the negotiations so that customers understand that Motorola is as helpless as them.
Note that I paraphrased and elaborated a lot of what Motorola said in the email to clarify for you guys. The email they sent was terse, not as elaborate as this, yet clearly conveyed all of this info.
So, there we have it folks. At least ICS is on the way and we now know that Motorola is negotiating with VZW and developing the unlock tools. The fact that they are developing the tools suggest that they are optimistic of the outcome of the negotiations! But you never know, and if it doesn't work out, may be Melvin can leak the tools!!!
So, that is a LOT to digest! Have fun with this news and go crazy! I think all those guys who submitted a BBB complaint deserve kudos to pushing Moto to do the right thing. And big kudos to iBolski for starting it and fueling the momentum and being the inspiration for others!!!
CHEERS!!!*
*NOTE: Did I forget to say that this is an April Fool's joke!?? Oops. Sorry! (I mean I am not sorry at all! ) Happy April Fool's Day!!!! God, I am gonna burn for this!
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I read this and figured it was an April Fool's Day joke. But it would be nice if it did happen. We can only hope.
You bastard! I read everything except for the small print. Been thinking we were really gonna get ICS. You just gave yourself bad luck sir! Damn I can not believe I fell for this. Beware of Melvin and who? Litetaker! Lol j/k
Travisdroidx2 said:
You bastard! I read everything except for the small print. Been thinking we were really gonna get ICS. You just gave yourself bad luck sir! Damn I can not believe I fell for this. Beware of Melvin and who? Litetaker! Lol j/k
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It's responses like this that make the effort of writing so much crap worthwhile!!! ^_^
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Lol I have to admit you got me good!
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Lol I have to admit you got me good!
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Hehehe! Still, you should fear Melvin and not me. Because I at least told you that I am full of crap. Melvin would've left the last line, the fineprint!
that's great, but yesterday I order the Rezound from ebay, so hopefully by saturday I'll be having ICS on my phone. But it is still great to hear that Motorola finally responded to her customers's requirements. I'm not sure how long this will take before we see ICS on the X2.
Haha you got me REALLY bad! Someone has to send this to ash! He'll **** himself and then hunt you down xD
SamerBerjawi said:
that's great, but yesterday I order the Rezound from ebay, so hopefully by saturday I'll be having ICS on my phone. But it is still great to hear that Motorola finally responded to her customers's requirements. I'm not sure how long this will take before we see ICS on the X2.
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Oh poor SamerBerjawi... Tsk, tsk, tsk! So unfortunate that you didn't pay close attention!
antp121: Glad you liked it! Ash will read this soon enough and hunt me down!
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Oh poor SamerBerjawi... Tsk, tsk, tsk! So unfortunate that you didn't pay close attention!
antp121: Glad you liked it! Ash will read this soon enough and hunt me down!
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I'm ok
Well at least I'm getting 1.5GHz, 1GB of RAM, and beats earphones (worth $170), 4G, and UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER. this is all what we need!
Good for you!
About half way through I was wondering why not just post the email??
...but I was liking what I was reading, and I believed, and as I believed I read more and my heart ached with joy that the pureness of our efforts had indeed penetrated the iron heart of the evil giant. My imagination sored to unthinkable heights filled with ice cream images and over clocked CPU's...
Then as I flew thus on such lovingly crafted wings, reality, or as Sherman put it so elegantly, It is all ether and moonshine, my wings where torn asunder as I was mashed across the jagged April joke....
Hey good one...yeah ya really got me good. Ooh did I ever mention what my 1st job was during my service days, other than being a qualified marksman... I got to learn a whole bunch about high explosives and guided missiles... Just saying...
And of course just kidding....lol
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kenjesse said:
About half way through I was wondering why not just post the email??
...but I was liking what I was reading, and I believed, and as I believed I read more and my heart ached with joy that the pureness of our efforts had indeed penetrated the iron heart of the evil giant. My imagination sored to unthinkable heights filled with ice cream images and over clocked CPU's...
Then as I flew thus on such lovingly crafted wings, reality, or as Sherman put it so elegantly, It is all ether and moonshine, my wings where torn asunder as I was mashed across the jagged April joke....
Hey good one...yeah ya really got me good. Ooh did I ever mention what my 1st job was during my service days, other than being a qualified marksman... I got to learn a whole bunch about high explosives and guided missiles... Just saying...
And of course just kidding....lol
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It is people like you who make me feel that the half hour I spent coming up with this **** is soooo worth it!
Got me
Come on, you had my hopes up until I read further into the thread...
Completely fooled me lol
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As I started to read, I immediately looked to see when the post was posted. As soon as I saw "April 1", I knew immediately. Heck, I even suspected it before I looked at the date.
Still, good one.
To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
gaad0701 said:
To do as Litetaker requested I am starting a new thread regarding MischiefsMommy's information that she posted regarding that she "may" have an unlocked bootloader and/or some kind of software that can help us to unlock our phones.
I personally think this is way too good to be true, but I think that this is important enough to start a discussion in a new thread about.
I do not want any childish banter between angry parties in this thread , but I do want to know how everyone feels about this information.
IMHO I am hoping and praying that she is right and that some tech at VZW sent her something awesome, something good has to happen to the Motorola community eventually right?
Fire away....
Don't get too off topic Ash....
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
ztotherad said:
I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Yeah, it is definitely a possibility that that is the case. The whole reason I posted this is because it has been so long since we heard anything from either of them.
Perhaps they have been PMing instead of going at it in a thread since it was such a heated discussion before.
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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tkuligowski said:
I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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true, but I'm also thinking that this may be possible, that this could be the way to unlock the bootloader without having to buy another phone. Maybe i'm being too optimistic about this, but that's just how I feel, and how I was raised. Maybe this has to do with me being screwed over by a girl I was in love with because she moved onto her "high school sweetheart," and me wearing my heart on my sleeve, but that's just life. I'm trying to get the best out of my phone until I can upgrade to the GNex or the next best thing, but as of right now, I'm going to see this to the end and if that means I'm going to get hurt again "over a phone" then so be it. I'm going into this to optimistic, too involved, but oh well, that's me not you.
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I don't understand why people are even giving this the time of day. If we get an unlocked bootloader its not going to come from an idiot user who claims to have got it from verizon. Your just feeding the trolls here. Just ignore those comments and move on. Secondly, people are getting a little too emotional about a phone. Someone said we have been burned as a community and we don't want to get hurt again. Really? If your getting your feelings hurt over a phone you may have some other issues you need to take a look at in your life other then a unlocked bootloader.
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I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
litetaker said:
I think it was me who said that. Granted I exaggerated it a little. But I definitely felt notably dissapointed by Melvin when he came trolling here. After all, I paid $200 of my hard earned cash for this turd of a phone and at that price I could have done a LOT of stuff. So, sorry for having feelings for the $200 of my money! sorry, I guess this seems like a bit of petty quarrel and is exactly opposite of what the OP asked us to do but I felt your comment needs some perspective and explanation.
Moreover, I guess given that you gave a Gnex, you don't seem to understand the pains of users with unlocked bootloaders!!!
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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It was in the BBB Complaint thread by Litetaker on page 11, it goes off for about 9 pages and then gets back on topic.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Wait looks like I missed something. A new Melvin case. Been looking around and not sure if or where I missed it. Would be nice to get bootloader unlocked but I bet it wont happen until I buy a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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Why do we need a thread dedicated to information everyone is almost 99% sure is false? I'd she had the tools and really wanted to prove something she would give us hard evidence. You don't walk your ass in here claiming you have the key to making our device infinitely better and just dance around answers like she did.
Sad we need to port her in the spotlight to do so. She is trolling us. Leave her be until she puts up.
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Because of that 1% nobody knows if she is right or wrong. NOBODY. You cannot say she is wrong without knowing the facts yourself and why not hold onto that glimmer of hope, if you read the original post I did ask for opinions, but I did not ask for your opinion on the validity of threads.
I see that you agree that this is most likely false, but it was taking up a lot of space in a different thread and I for one am interested enough to try to find out more.
I told everyone I am willing to attempt all of the tests once the soak/actuall update come out so if we can unlock the bootloader before that even happens I would be in heaven, I hate Moto Blur....
Skelente said:
Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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You are correct, I am hoping she is right and that it is an exe and we can somehow apply it to the X2.
Skelente said:
Yeah I'm not sure how I missed this either, but reading through her posts she seems to be extremely confused about things. I'm not sure how one can be aware of or unlock their phone and not know how to get a screenshot app.
Just going out on a limb here, but I think she is really just talking about the Razr and is just confused or maybe thinks that what will happen with the Razr will apply to the dx2.
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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Lol man I did not read back that far this morning. I so wish that was true. With that being said I do not think there is any way in hell we would get all this by end of the month. My wife's bionic would get it first. Like I said if it ever happens it will be when I am onto my next phone. I have till October but been watching eBay I might snag a gnexus if the price is right then no contract.
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I hear you, I am so tired of this things lag and other massive issues
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That's exactly what I thought. Id like to know how and why she got the unlock from Verizon and not Motorola, cause correct me if I'm wrong but Verizon does nothing in the development and design side if things.
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I sent her a PM this morning, hopefully we get an answer sometime today.
"I'm getting too old for this ****".
Its been almost a year since release and they've been yanking us around. The only way I'll have an unlocked phone anytime soon is if I get a free one from my complaint to BBB.
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I honestly agree with you that I think this is too good, but I hope to figure out if this is real or false, she hasn't been back but that could be of a certain person that has scared her off. Maybe we should pm her about this and see if she can share anything with us through that...
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Dunno who that coulda been
I may have gone a little overboard with the flaming, but she hit a nerve. Not getting into it again, just wanted to apologize.
Nah, I'm kidding. Good riddance.
Even ignoring the insults between myself and her, I don't think it's debatable at this point whether or not she's a troll (or equally possible: horribly, horribly confused).
I think my summary from that thread summed it up pretty efficiently.
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So let me recap.
We have an illiterate Droid Razr owner posting on the Droid X2 forums about talking on the phone with a Verizon representative about an unlocked bootloader (even though Verizon doesn't do jack **** with android) for their phone, which is a Razr, even though she claims it will work for an X2 (actually she hasnt, she just posts about it in the X2 forums. The ****?). This person tells us that the unlock our phones, and it will come alongside an ICS distro at the end of April.
Okay, cool, I didn't believe a word of it, but that at least is a possibility worth considering. That is, until they posted more information.
So as we ask her more about why she's in our forums and why the Verizon rep would have this information (keep in mind, a rep would never have this information if even Motorola reps don't), and she drops a bombshell: she's got an unlocked bootloader. OUT OF ****ING NOWHERE. Not ONCE before this did she care to mention she was unlocked. This contradicts everything she said before this; why does she have it now if it's coming at the end of April.
Alright, let's move on.
So apparently, she found this bootloader unlock on the Verizon site. Again, this contradicts her own story in more ways than I care to mention. Not only that, but Verizon would NOT be in possession of such a tool. It's not as if they even know how to work with Android; they are a service provider!
And finally, she presents us with a file she claims she found on the Verizon site (which she did not) and that it will allow us to unlock our bootloader by entering (this is what I could decipher) a series of ones and then a string of 7 random numbers and letters.
K. I don't know why anyone is still trying. This is worthless. It seems I'm the only voice of reason whenever people try to troll us. This is what, the third time? Fourth? I can't remember.
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Its cool Lite,
I knew this would happen one way or another, we are in the X2 forums you know
But as for you tkuligowski, I asked that we discuss the possibility that she is right, not the emotions involved in our entire forum or if she was a troll. I appreciate your opinion but unless you can actually contribute something useful to this thread please cease posting here.
It is annoying that you already began something I asked the community not to do on the first page of the freaking thread.
On a side note, I sent a PM to a couple of people to try to get MischiefsMommy out of her hole again.
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Are you serious you post a thread asking for peoples opinions on this and then you want me to not post because you don't like my opinion, or because it isn't what you intended for people to post? What you posted in your thread left this open for discussion. My opinion is its complete BS. Like someone said if we get an unlocked boot loader someone will have the tool or the means and post it. Not dance around answers and complain about migraines. Why even feed into it?
Also yes I do have a gnex but I still have my x2 and use it frequently at home. I too want an unlocked bootloader.
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