I am already S-Off, but it is from lazy panda. Should i switch to Dirty Racun, or try and retrieve S-Off through Dirty Racun? Are there any benefits, or any differences between the two? Also if I were to switch to Dirty Racun what would be the benefits, if there are any?
krobinso2295 said:
I am already S-Off, but it is from lazy panda. Should i switch to Dirty Racun, or try and retrieve S-Off through Dirty Racun? Are there any benefits, or any differences between the two? Also if I were to switch to Dirty Racun what would be the benefits, if there are any?
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No benefit at all...keep what you got.
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When you are s-off that's it. You are s-off. No reason to s-on just to s-off by another method.
i think the only difference would be the version of U.IO's HBOOT you're on and you can flash those to update if need be. but i can't tell you what benefit there is if any to doing that. best bet would be to go to their site and jump on IRC and ask them the specific question, (should i flash a newer hboot)
There is no benefit to updating hboot, its really just security and future proofing for oems. If there are any future hardware revisions like different lcds or the like, the hboot may be updated across the entire line of phones but its not like firmware or os updates.
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There is no benefit to updating hboot, its really just security and future proofing for oems. If there are any future hardware revisions like different lcds or the like, the hboot may be updated across the entire line of phones but its not like firmware or os updates.
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i'm inclined to agree with you on those points, yet my cynicism tells me if there's no difference between them then why does U.IO have multiple versions for our one device?
Because they patched the original soff exploit for hboot 1.12 with 1.15. Then hboot was updated to 1.19 but that was mainly a maintenance type release. They also removed access to boot partition with hboot 1.15
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Because they patched the original soff exploit for hboot 1.12 with 1.15. Then hboot was updated to 1.19 but that was mainly a maintenance type release. They also removed access to boot partition with hboot 1.15
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i know that's why HTC did it, but why would Unlimited.IO ?? why not just have HBOOT 12.12.12.12 "HornyGroundMole" and use it to patch overtop of 1.12, 1.15, or 1.19? or am i not recalling properly that they came out with an updated version for LazyPanda after their original release? or did they do it and they only did it for the sake of changing the version number and no actual code was updated?
The original release was an early beta they refined it, this new soff is only for hboots 1.15 and 1.19. It's a different exploit then what was used for 1.12
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I have always wondered...why some people get s-off and some s-on and different versions of Hboot? anyone know?
its obvious what s-off and s-on does, but what are the differences between the Hboots? any advantages of one over another?
i only care about the radio version lol
seriously, the wifi signal sucks on my Telus Amaze, dont know if Tmo get better radio versions or not...
still waiting for s-off that we can easily flash radio
seansk said:
I have always wondered...why some people get s-off and some s-on and different versions of Hboot? anyone know?
its obvious what s-off and s-on does, but what are the differences between the Hboots? any advantages of one over another?
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I don't know why some phones came with S-Off and the rest with S-On, but Hboot is kind of like the BIOS of a computer. Whenever there is an update, HTC will update the Hboot.
Most Likely an S-OFF for HBOOT 1.58 will be (most likely) Released tomorrow.
So this means this new HBOOT is no big whoop. For Once.
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Most Likely an S-OFF for HBOOT 1.58 will be (most likely) Released tomorrow.
So this means this new HBOOT is no big whoop. For Once.
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Those guys are genius. Probably the same hack for 1.5
Wire trick has been confirmed working on hboot 1.58 already in multiple threads in the development section. Confused...
I have been running ViperROM Nightlies for a little bit but now I'm on MeanROM v2.6 ICS. Yes I am somewhat a newbert, for instance I have no clue what ENG HBOOT is. Someone care to shede some light.
Right now I'm on JuopunutBear's HBOOT 1.5050 (I believe that's what it is)
Any help would be much appreciated!
TIA!!!!!!!!!
-Tater out.....
TaterNutZ9 said:
I have been running ViperROM Nightlies for a little bit but now I'm on MeanROM v2.6 ICS. Yes I am somewhat a newbert, for instance I have no clue what ENG HBOOT is. Someone care to shede some light.
Right now I'm on JuopunutBear's HBOOT 1.5050 (I believe that's what it is)
Any help would be much appreciated!
TIA!!!!!!!!!
-Tater out.....
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Engineering hboot 1.04 is just an hboot that will accept more fastboot commands than the others will accept. It does not have a locked/unlocked banner and it was probably the first hboot for this device. If you want to give it a spin, here it is. Just rename this file to PG86IMG.zip and flash through the bootloader.
http://db.tt/zUkb3upO
For cdma
As for the best one for sense ROMs, that depends. If you want to run GB and VM leak ICS ones, then hboot 1.4 or 1.5 our the eng hboot is fine. If you want to run an ICS ROM based on the new ota with the new kernel, you need hboot 1.58.
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As for the best one for sense ROMs, that depends. If you want to run GB and VM leak ICS ones, then hboot 1.4 or 1.5 our the eng hboot is fine. If you want to run an ICS ROM based on the new ota with the new kernel, you need hboot 1.58.
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I was on freezas thread in the cdma dev section. I just did the wire trick to get S-OFF today and I would be super pissed if i messed it up. But if I upgrade to 1.58, would I still be S-OFF?
Yes. You keep s off. You can downgrade the hboot later if you wish
I've looked for weeks and I'm still unsure about this. I can run a custom ROM being unlocked. However, can I flash a radio? or do I need to be S-off? My old EVO allowed me to do an "all in one" zip that would include ROM, radio, PRI, PRL etc. When I got my Sprint EVO LTE a couple of weeks ago, and after reading XDA forums for hours, I was pleased to know my Hboot is 1.12. It seems you can do more with this version than any other.
Thanks for this clarification.
It's easy enough to get s-off if u follow instructions. Be easier if u did, and there are people who would love to be in your shoes to have s-off on this phone.
I'm not sure about radios. I think u need to be s-off to flash just a radio. And if u stay S-ON upgrading thru RUU's will put u on perma-S-ON hboot. Or permanent until someone can come up with an exploit. And that isn't looking too promising atm.
I know 1.12 is more slack than 1.15&1.19, when S-ON, but might as well s-off while u can. Right?
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It's easy enough to get s-off if u follow instructions. Be easier if u did, and there are people who would love to be in your shoes to have s-off on this phone.
I'm not sure about radios. I think u need to be s-off to flash just a radio. And if u stay S-ON upgrading thru RUU's will put u on perma-S-ON hboot. Or permanent until someone can come up with an exploit. And that isn't looking too promising atm.
I know 1.12 is more slack than 1.15&1.19, when S-ON, but might as well s-off while u can. Right?
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what he said ^^^^^^
You are correct. You cannot flash radios if you are s-on.
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You can flash radios only in recovery with s-on.
Look in this tread by Captaintrowback.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13192-RADIOS-Jewel-Radio-Collection-LATEST-1-12-11-0809
It appears that HBOOT 1.15 will not get s-off any time soon...Is it O.K. to upgrade to HBOOT 1.19 and wait then for s-off capabilities, or is 1.19 taboo also.
I am rooted, can I stall HBOOT 1.19 with abd, or would I have to root the phone again, and install a recovery...
There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue. The second is basically the same but involving the aroma installer, flashes fine but sometimes kernel will not flash and you boot to bootloader. This does not mean you need to update only that the kernel did not like the new base, fastboot kernel and you'll be fine. Some people still have WiFi issues and others have LTE issues, both should have been addressed in the last 2 updates and people with the latest firmware are still having problems. To me this does not warrant relocking upgrading and going through the unlock again.
A lot of people including myself don't consider 1.19 an upgrade and like om said you don't nerf to update
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Always best waiting
In my experiences, it is almost ALWAYS best to wait. If for some reason 1.19 gets s-off before 1.15 then u can update. But for now, just wait. I got lucky and I'm 1.12 s-off either way warranty is gone so always get s-off whenever possible.
I keep seeing threads about s-off. I'll like people to be more specific as to what they're trying to achieve that they can't while being s-on?
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Just the ability to directly flash software to partitions normally inaccessible, Firmware basically. Those of us s-on would have to flash back to stock, lock hboot, and accept an ota or relock and run the ruu
Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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there is a guy in the s-off thread saying he will give up his phone and i saw fuses sent him a PM reply about it hang in there guys
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There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue.
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Quick question: Are you saying that if I wanted to run Mean ROM that I do not need to be in the latest OTA? I'm confused because I was under the understanding that we needed to be on 2.13. Please clarify for me.
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No you don't, I ran meanrom a few days ago and today I switched to viper 2.02. Meanroms kernel installer worked fine, viper required fastboot but both run fine
Thanks for the quick response. Wow, I feel like a dumb *ss now. I've been holding out trying any new roms because I didn't want to come off of hboot 1.15.
Which rom do you like better so far between viper and mikey's?
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The level of customization on viper is crazy, meanrom runs great with evilz kernel and is closer to stock. I'm still sifting through the different mods for viper and I've yet to check out any themes but so far but I'm still digging through it all