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Kind of a newb type question but dont want to waste time flashing and reflashing?
Can a non voodoo kernel be used with ComRom 2.1 or do I have to use voodoo?
ibz41 said:
Kind of a newb type question but dont want to waste time flashing and reflashing?
Can a non voodoo kernel be used with ComRom 2.1 or do I have to use voodoo?
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either one is ok I believe, if you want a certain kernel grab the ComRom with no kernel and flash your own
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But, if you're going to stick with a stock kernel you will need this one. So that cwm recovery flash will actually stick. Flash kernel using odin, boot, power down, pull batt, flash cwm in odin, insert batt 3 finger to recovery, flash no kernel rom, boot.
good day.
thanks, not sure if I will use stock kernel yet.
Let's say you flashed the ROM that had the built-in kernel already, can you still flash another kernel like OTBs or do you need to flash the stand-alone/no kernel distribution first? Also, can the kernel in the all-in-one package be OC'd or UC'd?
Thanks!
chopper the dog said:
But, if you're going to stick with a stock kernel you will need this one. So that cwm recovery flash will actually stick. Flash kernel using odin, boot, power down, pull batt, flash cwm in odin, insert batt 3 finger to recovery, flash no kernel rom, boot.
good day.
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shaels said:
Let's say you flashed the ROM that had the built-in kernel already, can you still flash another kernel like OTBs or do you need to flash the stand-alone/no kernel distribution first? Also, can the kernel in the all-in-one package be OC'd or UC'd?
Thanks!
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There is a version of ComRom which comes with OTB 1.5. OTB 1.6 is latest vesion but in not packaged with ComRom.
Yes you can flash other kernels after flashing rom/kernel package but if the new kernel is not voodoo make sure you disable the lagfix first. Also, if you use a non voodoo kernel do not enable the lagfix from CWM unless you flash a voodoo kernel again.
Lastly, OTB allows for voltage and clock adjustments. PBJ kernels are underclocked but I dont believe they are adjustable
Sorry chopper not trying to be rude by answering this question addressed to you...
See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312 for answers and links to roms, kernels, and CWM
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Sorry chopper not trying to be rude by answering this question addressed to you...
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LOL, it's your thread.
good day.
Thumbs up. Thanks!
ibz41 said:
There is a version of ComRom which comes with OTB 1.5. OTB 1.6 is latest vesion but in not packaged with ComRom.
Yes you can flash other kernels after flashing rom/kernel package but if the new kernel is not voodoo make sure you disable the lagfix first. Also, if you use a none voodoo kernel do not enable the lagfix from CWM unless you flash a voodoo kernel again.
Lastly, OTB allows for voltage and clock adjustments. PBJ kernels are underclocked but I dont believe they are adjustable
Sorry chopper not trying to be rude by answering this question addressed to you...
See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312 for answers and links to roms, kernels, and CWM
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chopper the dog said:
But, if you're going to stick with a stock kernel you will need this one. So that cwm recovery flash will actually stick. Flash kernel using odin, boot, power down, pull batt, flash cwm in odin, insert batt 3 finger to recovery, flash no kernel rom, boot.
good day.
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Chopper you seem to be very knowledgable and informed concerning our phone. I have one more question I hope you can answer for me. Are there any advantages to using a non voodoo kernel instead of voodoo kernel with lagfix disabled?
Thank you I appreciate your help. I know a decent amount from post about the general rules for flashing/odin/heimdall/adb/voodoo but most threads on forums do not go into enough detail for the reader to know their limits when experimenting.
Thanks again
chopper the dog said:
LOL, it's your thread.
good day.
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LOL...I dont post very often so I am still learning forum etiquette. I am more of a sit back and absorb guy.
Someone may come by and add to this or offer their own view and tell me that I'm a douche. But Ext4 (voodoo) does come with a small hit to the battery but offering up faster read write speeds and the other changes that may have been added i.e. bln, sound, uv, oc. Now yes you can use a uv'd voodoo kernel with a "disable lagfix" file in place so that your file system with be rfs (extending battery) but marginally slowing some operations down. Since the new voodoo control plus allows for the sound module to be loaded on any kernel on the fly, I find myself at the moment running comm rom 2.1 with an old EB01 kernel in rfs. And I have been real pleased with my battery over the last 3 days since using the "vintage kernel" in rfs, plus also having voodoo sound is a plus. I really missed how the buttons used to light up with the screen, but ever since we've had mesmerize source kernels the buttons need to be touched to light them up when waking the device. You just need to find your own kernel/rom combo for your needs. But I have never been in any race to have the highest quad score, I just like my device to work with the best battery and stability.
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hi i am on literom 1.5 can i flash the new Ninphetamine-2.0.5 kernal or do i have to update litepro to newest 5.0 thanks ,i have searched but no luck thx
Yes, you can!
But why do you not upgrade to LT rom 5.0, or even 4.?
because all my tweaks blue themes ect all set up
xda app sgs2, thank me if i helped
is that mean yes or no
xda app sgs2, thank me if i helped
It's a yes
ninphetamine seems to work with every rom
thx badwoly it worked
xda app sgs2, thank me if i helped
don't flame me but can i install this through either Odin (just using the kernel on PDA) or CWM (flash a kernel) from /sdcard on top of my stock KG3 ROM? nothing else required?
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don't flame me but can i install this through either Odin (just using the kernel on PDA) or CWM (flash a kernel) from /sdcard on top of my stock KG3 ROM? nothing else required?
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Yes!
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easy enough. is there any advantage using this kernel with a villain or litening rom? or would just the stock suffice?
rwc3b said:
easy enough. is there any advantage using this kernel with a villain or litening rom? or would just the stock suffice?
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I believe both those ROMs come with Ninphetamine 2.0.4 and will likely be updated shortly to 2.0.5. The advantage I find (I am on stock ROM) is that battery life is improved greatly and I can overclock and undervolt using setCPU. I actually underclock and undervolt the majority of the time and get twice the battery life I did running completely stock. For instance 800MHz is plenty for all the HD games I play, I usually run them on 1000MHz when I'm playing them online for less lag (like Order and Chaos).
It's a great kernel that why you'll find it included with a lot of ROMs coming out.
So, by adding 2.0.5 to either ROMs you're just getting the small battery life update which I have yet to see in action. But since 2.0.2 my battery life has been superb.
Enjoy.
AndroAndo said:
I believe both those ROMs come with Ninphetamine 2.0.4 and will likely be updated shortly to 2.0.5. The advantage I find (I am on stock ROM) is that battery life is improved greatly and I can overclock and undervolt using setCPU. I actually underclock and undervolt the majority of the time and get twice the battery life I did running completely stock. For instance 800MHz is plenty for all the HD games I play, I usually run them on 1000MHz when I'm playing them online for less lag (like Order and Chaos).
It's a great kernel that why you'll find it included with a lot of ROMs coming out.
So, by adding 2.0.5 to either ROMs you're just getting the small battery life update which I have yet to see in action. But since 2.0.2 my battery life has been superb.
Enjoy.
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Wow. Great answer. Thanks. I'm not really looking to do custom ROM. I just want to flash this kernel with the stock ROM. I'll have to do a lot more research before I can even begin understanding your explanation on underclocking and undervolting. I guess the setCPU comes with this kernel and I can just open it up and adjust values as I wish?
But even before that, I need a little direction before flashing my first kernel via CWM.
Is this how it goes?
- download ZIP file from his thread
- copy .zip to \sdcard (not in any of its subfolders)
- open CWM
- ** now here is where I'm lost. do I either:
- Reboot -> ClockWorkMod
- Reboot -> Download mode
- Kernel -> Flash kernel
and then where do I go from here?
Another question about this kernel
Hello,
I just have a little question about this kernel.
Is it normal that the /system part is mounted as rw when the system start (not set as ro in the init.rc) ?
Thanks
rwc3b said:
Wow. Great answer. Thanks. I'm not really looking to do custom ROM. I just want to flash this kernel with the stock ROM. I'll have to do a lot more research before I can even begin understanding your explanation on underclocking and undervolting. I guess the setCPU comes with this kernel and I can just open it up and adjust values as I wish?
But even before that, I need a little direction before flashing my first kernel via CWM.
Is this how it goes?
- download ZIP file from his thread
- copy .zip to \sdcard (not in any of its subfolders)
- open CWM
- ** now here is where I'm lost. do I either:
- Reboot -> ClockWorkMod
- Reboot -> Download mode
- Kernel -> Flash kernel
and then where do I go from here?
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yes just download kernal go to cwm and then goto flash kernal it will reboot itsself and flash kernal fir u did on my 1.5 lightrom
xda app sgs2, thank me if i helped
I know that the overclocking possible is pretty low (I've heard 1.1Ghz is really all it can manage).
But i'd still like to try. I'm running a custom ROM currently and know it involves flashing the kernel.
Does that require a wipe or anything? And are all kernels compatible with custom ROMs? Thanks to anyone to answers..
The only kernel with 1.2Ghz overclock is doomkernel. I used it before at 1.2Ghz and no problems came up as I only use it when I'm playing heavy games.
All kernels should be compatible to all custom ROMs, except for FXP CM7 which requires it's own custom kernel or DoomKernel FXP-CM7 and requires an unlocked bootloader.
The same goes for Luke's MIUI ROM(and all that's based on it), it requires Luke's custom kernel, or DoomKernel for Luke's MIUI.
Other than that, they should work good with any custom kernels/ROMs. And no, installing a custom won't wipe anything. But it is recommended to wipe the cache and dalvik cache after installing a custom kernel.
i think the x10_029e_Th Kernel also has 1228mhz overclocking. But yes i heard somewhere the safe value is around 1.1Ghz.
Okay thanks. I have another question:
I've looked, and a lot of people recommend the TEAM ROM. But there's also the Th ROM.
I was thinking of changing off the MIUI one I'm on now. Which of those two would be best? I'm looking for performance
dragonx254 said:
Okay thanks. I have another question:
I've looked, and a lot of people recommend the TEAM ROM. But there's also the Th ROM.
I was thinking of changing off the MIUI one I'm on now. Which of those two would be best? I'm looking for performance
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I am running the ThGO2 v7.5 ROM atm, i find it extremely smooth. TEAM is pretty good as well, how about you try out both of them and be the judge of it yourself as i don't find much difference in the roms unless there is major lag or something.
Well I'd love to try both, but I hate having to wipe all my data and stuff all over again.
What's the differences really? Just in a nutshell.
dragonx254 said:
Well I'd love to try both, but I hate having to wipe all my data and stuff all over again.
What's the differences really? Just in a nutshell.
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I think just basically the visual features are different. The performance as i said i don't notice much difference but TEAM does offers their app "Appman" which basically shows you all updates for their roms etc and different roms include different apps which i can't remember specifically which apps are included in which rom. So just try them out, i don't think you would be disappointed with any.
Okay. I was reading the Th one, said you have to backup APN? Is that data?
And I also saw three different builds for that one (stock, CM, and some other one). What are the differences there? CM has "Super speed" next to it, is that a faster ROM?
Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
We only have 2 options, Entropy or Siyah and they do not include a modem.
Check the dev section for kernels & modems.
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Hey guys, I'm not gonna ask the dreaded question "Which Kernal is best?", but I am currently rooted and want to overclock to 1.5, but besides that, what else should I be looking for in a kernal?
What about modems (or is that embedded in the kernal)?
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Both kernels we have offer oc abilities.
Personally I would look at stability and battery life but that is just me. Try both and see which suits your needs.
Modems are not associated with kernel and depend on your area. Whichever works the best where you are.
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
butikofer08 said:
So if I find a ROM I like but want to experiment with the other available Kernal, is it as simple as flashing my ROM first, then once booted up go into Odin and flash the other kernal i want to experiment with?
Or is the kernal that comes with a ROM the one your stuck with?
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Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
LiLChris06 said:
Just use CWM to flash the zips provided or Mobile Odin if you prefer it that way.
No need to use a computer to change the Kernel.
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Thanks for the quick response chris,
I guess what I'm asking is if I have a rom with the Syiah kernal, is it possible to keep that same ROM but swap kernals, sorry, I just wasn't clear on what your answer meant.
I'm guessing your saying it is indeed possible and just flash the .zip for a different Kernal on top of an already installed ROM.
Sorry, I'm tired...
Changing the Kernel on 2.3.4 & 2.3.6 roms will not break anything.
For CM7, CM9, MIUI etc you have to stick with what is included or see what works with it.
AntwanL said:
We have two choices here and both are incredibly stable and allow overclocking. You can't go wrong. Basically the biggest difference as far as I can see is the recovery that comes with it which is almost entirely preference.
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For example, latest Siyah with touch recovery. Awesome for flashaholics.
Your talking of version .14 I assume, if so, doesn't it say in .13 description that .13 would be the last for Gingerbread?
Obviously it works if your using it, so i'm gonna download now...
My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
question
I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
tzur87 said:
My Rom is Rasbeanjelly
first , i have to say its the most stable rom !
i have Paranoid and Rotbox and a its much better rom (without offense , just my opinion).
sure a less options , but too much options its not always advantage... so thanks for that.
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I have a question now... i am still new on android area , and the developer wrote after we the ROM i need to flash a Karnel
name Trinty , i have no idea how to do that, where to download that karnel , and what's happened if I just flash the Rom
without the kernal (what I just did), or if I can flash it now without format my all system and do the process again...
thanks a lot guys.
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You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A
lvnatic said:
You flash the kernel just like the rom, AFTER you flash the rom. You can find the trinity kernel in the original development area.
You can flash the kernel anytime, you don't have to flash the rom again, just clean cache+dalvik cache after you flash the kernel.
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thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
tzur87 said:
thanks, But i heard that all ROMS COME WITH A BUILT KERNEL...
SO WHY I HAVE TO FLASH IT AGAIN?
AND WHAT ABOUT ALL MY APPS AND STUFF? THEY ALL WIPE?
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Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
thanks... but if i dont know how to change my
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
lvnatic said:
Yes, all ROMs come with a kernel. Most of them come with the stock kernel from samsung. Trinity, ktmanta, franco and others are custom kernels, based on those from samsung but with some small modifications for performance and battery life.
I'm not an expert in android coding, not even close, but from what I understood so far kernels are some kind of drivers for the CPU, GPU and the other hardware parts like bluetooth, gps and so on.
Short story: with custom kernels you can overclock the cpu or gpu, adjust the voltages etc.
Trinity kernel is a good choice, flash it and dont chage anything.
Nothing will be wiped.
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tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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It really depends on what you want out of your device/ROM. KTManta lets you hand-set a lot of tweaks, but also benchmarks just a smidge slower than other ROMs, for example, while Trinity is fairly fast.
tzur87 said:
GPU , CPU and stuff, that it actually will improve anything ...
i guess if i was an expert its should help me... but for some one that not understand what the advantage and disadvantage of each parameter
you recommended that also?
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Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
I dont know what do you ...
d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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I dont know what do you ...
d2mac said:
Any Kernel/Rom supporting Ad-Hoc/IBSS for WiFI?
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No. It's an issue with Android 4.2 from what I understand
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Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
Trinity
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Sensamic said:
Which kernel had the longest battery life without making any tweaks?
Thanks.
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There's a thread in here somewhere about just that. Have a search at it, although there's really no one kernel that's "best"-- they'll all interact with your ROM of choice, so it becomes a kernel/ROM combo to look at. Personally, Carbon's stock kernel does best by me.
@samwheat Oh look, the person who complains about how atrocious his battery life is and how it's all the device's fault is back to try and recommend kernels and ROMs to users.
for a lot of modification, KTManta is your best choice I think.