Hi I have a question why is android buggy I mean when I compare my s2 to my dad's old iPhone 3gs it's still laggy why is that I've searched why is it like that and found out it's because of the ui rendering but it should be fixed with ICS and JB so why is it still laggy while the iPhone never lags at all
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ABD EL HAMEED said:
Hi I have a question why is android buggy I mean when I compare my s2 to my dad's old iPhone 3gs it's still laggy why is that I've searched why is it like that and found out it's because of the ui rendering but it should be fixed with ICS and JB so why is it still laggy while the iPhone never lags at all
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The reason is that iOS is designed for the iPhone hardware. Apple only has one phone, with a set hardware configuration. Android has to work with many different hardware configurations, so it uses generic drivers for everything. Newer end Android phones have virtually no lag as well. If you run the right rom on the S2 it won't lag either.
OK what rooms do you suggest for me that has no lag bear in mind please that I have the G model I don't care if it's going to be a GB ROM or ICS or JB as long as there is no lag at all also I read that android will never have no lags because of the ui rendering because it uses the main thread and doesn't use a secondary thread and it's set to normal priority while iOS sets priority to real time so is it true that android will never be bugless or not (I hope not because I really like an android phone more than an iPhone)
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ABD EL HAMEED said:
OK what rooms do you suggest for me that has no lag bear in mind please that I have the G model I don't care if it's going to be a GB ROM or ICS or JB as long as there is no lag at all also I read that android will never have no lags because of the ui rendering because it uses the main thread and doesn't use a secondary thread and it's set to normal priority while iOS sets priority to real time so is it true that android will never be bugless or not (I hope not because I really like an android phone more than an iPhone)
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Download and use cyanogenmod, it's awesome, it will give you stock UI it will also reduce lag alot! + it will give you much more customization.. I love cyanogenmod :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010985 - cyanogenmod 10.1 (will give you android 4.2) (this is for GT-I9100G as you had told us) :good:
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Download and use cyanogenmod, it's awesome, it will give you stock UI it will also reduce lag alot! + it will give you much more customization.. I love cyanogenmod :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010985 - cyanogenmod 10.1 (will give you android 4.2) (this is for GT-I9100G as you had told us) :good:
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OK I tried it once and it was smooth as you said but I still saw some lag some times I'm talking about total smoothness like an iPhone, and I'm currently trying slim bean and will post results
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ABD EL HAMEED said:
OK I tried it once and it was smooth as you said but I still saw some lag some times I'm talking about total smoothness like an iPhone, and I'm currently trying slim bean and will post results
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Total smoothness can be achieved in GingerBread Roms, try it
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Total smoothness can be achieved in GingerBread Roms, try it
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OK I'll see
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iOS is designed to match the hardware configuration of specific iPhone but Android Os doesnt do the same.
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iOS is designed to match the hardware configuration of specific iPhone but Android Os doesnt do the same.
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Actually, IOS is also "laggy" when you install some new IOS on the old device. My iPod Touch started to lag after I upgraded from IOS 2.0 to IOS 4.3, and battery life decreased dramatically.
OK I know that iOS lags when you install a new version on an older device berceuse I did it with my dad's old iPhone 3GS when iOS 5 came out but that's because the hardware it self can't stand it and if it's all hardware compatibility can you do some thing in android os so it can work better lag less make it work Better with the hardware
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...o-remain-like-that-in-the-near-future_id24434 plus in this web page I found that android was laggy because of ui render so what's with that can some body explain it to me
Plus is android laggier than iOS because of the many options and customizations you have so the system is more complex
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Also what are generic drivers
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http://www.cultofmac.com/133624/why-android-will-always-be-laggier-than-ios/
So as I read this is why android is laggy and that's why it's gonna stay like that it turns out for android to be completely smooth it has rewrite the UI framework and that means rewriting every app in the android play store and that will take about a year
Finally I know why android is laggier than IOS
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http://www.cultofmac.com/133624/why-android-will-always-be-laggier-than-ios/
So as I read this is why android is laggy and that's why it's gonna stay like that it turns out for android to be completely smooth it has rewrite the UI framework and that means rewriting every app in the android play store and that will take about a year
Finally I know why android is laggier than IOS
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That post is complete bull****.He doesn't have too much knowledge about android(intern for 1 year :laugh , but rather than asking more senior dev's about it he posted it himself.although it seemed convincing din't take me too much time to figure that it was completely nonesense. i have found a post to back me up
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252
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That post is complete bull****.He doesn't have too much knowledge about android(intern for 1 year :laugh , but rather than asking more senior dev's about it he posted it himself.although it seemed convincing din't take me too much time to figure that it was completely nonesense. i have found a post to back me up
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-can-never-be-as-smooth-as-iOS-myth-busted_id26252
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Yes android still has a chance anyway thanks for answering me and yes I don't know anything about development (that's why I started this thread)and also the reason I didn't ask any developer is because I don't know any developers other wise why would I start this thread and no one seemed to answer my questions at all but since I know that the UI stuff is wrong I'm back to my original question why is android kinda laggy compared to IOS and don't tell it's because apple only has one device to focus on while android has alot plz explain more
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ABD EL HAMEED said:
Yes android still has a chance anyway thanks for answering me and yes I don't know anything about development (that's why I started this thread)and also the reason I didn't ask any developer is because I don't know any developers other wise why would I start this thread and no one seemed to answer my questions at all but since I know that the UI stuff is wrong I'm back to my original question why is android kinda laggy compared to IOS and don't tell it's because apple only has one device to focus on while android has alot plz explain more
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To sum it up in basic words, Android uses generic drivers. Apple has to make software for only a specific hardware, Thus their drivers, screen res. etc. they put is only for a specfiic hardware therefore reducing lag... android is expected to work on lots of phones, thus everything is approximate.. Also because android handles more complex tasks such as widgets, live wallpaper etc. Which use up much of the gpu, only little left for other tasks... while ios's gpu has nothing to render except a bunch of icons, so the gpu stays free and is ready for the next action..
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To sum it up in basic words, Android uses generic drivers. Apple has to make software for only a specific hardware, Thus their drivers, screen res. etc. they put is only for a specfiic hardware therefore reducing lag... android is expected to work on lots of phones, thus everything is approximate.. Also because android handles more complex tasks such as widgets, live wallpaper etc. Which use up much of the gpu, only little left for other tasks... while ios's gpu has nothing to render except a bunch of icons, so the gpu stays free and is ready for the next action..
Hope this cleared your doubts :highfive:
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Thanks for helping and clarifying things for me and you did help
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For iOS, the safe point is the dual core cortex A9 apple A5 chip for a reatively lag free experience even with the most demanding games 2013 titles+ and anyone who says the S2 wouldn't lag is a lier.
Such example is the iPad 2/Mini/4S
The safe point of android is a quad core a15 chip for a reatively lag free experience.
That's because android requires faster hardware to make up for the unoptimised generic drivers.
Such example is the Nexus 4, Nexus 7 2013
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For iOS, the safe point is the dual core cortex A9 apple A5 chip for a reatively lag free experience even with the most demanding games 2013 titles+ and anyone who says the S2 wouldn't lag is a lier.
Such example is the iPad 2/Mini/4S
The safe point of android is a quad core a15 chip for a reatively lag free experience.
That's because android requires faster hardware to make up for the unoptimised generic drivers.
Such example is the Nexus 4, Nexus 7 2013
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Good point
I knos this is old but my old sensation never lagged , had many roms and stuff on it, also played lots of nova with it,
I got nexus 4 now Anyway
Also i see that iPhone 5s lags,
Even when it doesnt i guess sloe animations cover it ! Takes a year for animations to finish xD
Also iPhone screen res is extremely low so it doesnt need much power also ios has no features to use cpu xD
Anyway i don't know brefore sensation or desire hd but phones i saw after desire hd didnt lag, expect Samsung phones :S even s4 lagged, i saw s3 for test somewhere , SO FREAKING LIQUID SMOOTH lol
Also sometimes user faults make phone lag or bloat war
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I just saw my friend's i9100 had dual OS, android and IOS. How can I do that?
I'm pretty sure that isn't iOS, its MIUI. If he said it was iOS, now you have a good reason to punch him in the face
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I'm pretty sure that isn't iOS, its MIUI. If he said it was iOS, now you have a good reason to punch him in the face
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Absolutely*
There actually is a phone that you can get that dual boots Android and iOS, and we've seen that you can dual boot an iPhone with Android on it.
Neither of those are Galaxy S2 though, and if your friend has told you he's running iOS on a Galaxy S2 then he's either mistaken, pulling your leg or just flat out lying. It's not possible.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Good question, though. Can you run two Android roms side by side? And can your apps and files remain unchanged no matter which you boot in to?
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Good question, though. Can you run two Android roms side by side? And can your apps and files remain unchanged no matter which you boot in to?
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Do not quote me on it as I am not sure but I believe that DoomLord on the X10 forum did a dualboot thingy. He's a legend over there!
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Dualboot on SGS2 vv check link in sig vv.
It's 2x Android though, no iOS (what even remotely sane person would want that anyways....).
I'm also puzzling on a small app to make the set up of the dualboot more easy, but it isn't done yet.
Sharing apps between boots should also be possible up to a certain extend....
Man this thing didn't even cross my mind. Would be a great way of using CM7 without having to give up on samsung camera and polaris office.
gokhanmoral is working on dual-booting for our phone. He already happen to make it to his phone and now have to find the way how it going to happen on others phones.
If I may, wth is the point of dual booting 2 androids??
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If I may, wth is the point of dual booting 2 androids??
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For example, being able to run a samsung firmware based ROM and an AOSP ROM like CM7 on the same device. That way you can get the speed and smoothness of CM7 without loosing the samsung apps that can't run in CM7, like the camera or polaris office.
That is at least why I would be doing dual booting on my phone. I just used polaris office too much when I was on stock Samsung!
Is there a time HTC announced yet for the official firmware ? Like Summer 2012 , Fall 2012 ??
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No official date, but I believe they said "early in 2012"
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HTC stated in the first quarter (Q1) of 2012. Meaning Jan-March.
What's the hurry?? there are still many apps that haven't been updated, there are may things in the air about it and its best to get it when all the bugs are ironed out.
People need to be more patient....
Okay thanks for the information
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Q1 is almost over.
Jellybean will be out before we get ICS
first week of april for sure. jelly bean is way to far. its dual OS android 5 plus google it will be interesting to see what jelly bean gota offer. the wait is on
It's the last week in April. Nothing yet...
I just hope they increase the response time of the camera. As-is that is my ONLY complaint. I miss a lot of great shots because of the lag between when I click the button and when it actually takes the shot.
Its unknown for now, all we can do is wait.
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It's the last week in April. Nothing yet...
I just hope they increase the response time of the camera. As-is that is my ONLY complaint. I miss a lot of great shots because of the lag between when I click the button and when it actually takes the shot.
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Same here. I was able to reduce it by changing the review time (of the shot) to off. Also, if you have the Amaze camera (MeanRom I know has it) the lag is a little shorter than that. Hopefully ICS can help in that aspect!
Google should fix Gingerbread or other versions and make it smooth and fast like iOS. Not release these updates because all of them uses alot of memory and uses cpu more than other operating systems. Iphone with 1ghz cpu and 512ram is almost the same as S II what is the fastest phone. Af course you have a lot options for Android. Different ROMS, Kernels and other things but Google should work more on system. They should make it smooth, bug free and stable as hell. And they should make one system that runs smooth even on low-end devices. Right now Android is just a big mess, a lot versions but it's getting better from one side but going down from other side. Sorry if my english hurts your eyes.
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Is there a time HTC announced yet for the official firmware ? Like Summer 2012 , Fall 2012 ??
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In the coming weeks.
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In the coming weeks.
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Turning out to be in the coming year.
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Google should fix Gingerbread or other versions and make it smooth and fast like iOS. Not release these updates because all of them uses alot of memory and uses cpu more than other operating systems. Iphone with 1ghz cpu and 512ram is almost the same as S II what is the fastest phone. Af course you have a lot options for Android. Different ROMS, Kernels and other things but Google should work more on system. They should make it smooth, bug free and stable as hell. And they should make one system that runs smooth even on low-end devices. Right now Android is just a big mess, a lot versions but it's getting better from one side but going down from other side. Sorry if my english hurts your eyes.
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Umm each iteration works more towards this... Ios is so smooth because it uses hardware acceleration, something that is only just becoming possible with ICS on Android. Sit back and trust that Google might just have common sense too.
I think I've heard something about getting ICS some when in June.
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Google should fix Gingerbread or other versions and make it smooth and fast like iOS. Not release these updates because all of them uses alot of memory and uses cpu more than other operating systems. Iphone with 1ghz cpu and 512ram is almost the same as S II what is the fastest phone. Af course you have a lot options for Android. Different ROMS, Kernels and other things but Google should work more on system. They should make it smooth, bug free and stable as hell. And they should make one system that runs smooth even on low-end devices. Right now Android is just a big mess, a lot versions but it's getting better from one side but going down from other side. Sorry if my english hurts your eyes.
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Android can do true multitasking. This no something ios does. They added multitasking in ios 4 I believe but it doesn't compare to how well android does it. Strip out the multitasking and I bet android is a hell of a lot smoother.
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Android can do true multitasking. This no something ios does. They added multitasking in ios 4 I believe but it doesn't compare to how well android does it. Strip out the multitasking and I bet android is a hell of a lot smoother.
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Still I can't wait the ICS update for Evo 3D. I hope it will be here soon.
They announced It's coming out tomorrow at 11:11 am.
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If i not wrong, its around may-june end of may or first june
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I recently upgraded my brother's Rezound to ICS and was expecting a huge increase in UI navigation frame rate or smoothness. I gave him Vigor360 which is based off the OTA so there aren't any gingerbread crumbs lying around. However, I was a bit confused to see that smoothness really hadn't improved much if at all. On Sense UI it's understandable because I doubt they'd change the core programming to support ICS's graphics acceleration, but even Apex and Nova Launcher were sluggish.
Meanwhile the galaxy nexus soars on ICS. Hardware wise, these phones are somewhat similarly matched; the Rezound carries a more capable GPU while the CPU architecture of the Galaxy Nexus delivers better dual core performance. Both are pushing the same number of pixels too, 1280x720.
So why does the Rezound stutter so much more? You'd think the graphics drivers would be properly updated by HTC or Qualcomm for an official update. My intention is not to bash the Rezound in any way, I am simply seeking information.
Rezound ICS is sense bloated. The nexus has none of that bloat so it of course is much smoother.
yeah it's pretty much sense that bloats it up.
but even the AOSP roms on here are still noticably laggier than the nexus too, but devs are working stuff out for them i think
That and the Rezound was designed with Sense in mind and the software shows it. While the Galaxy NEXUS (key word) is what ICS was designed and optimized to run its absolute best on. It's a Google phone the.software and hardware were designed together. I'm sorry if I took it wrong here but I kinda took offense to the OP on behalf of our devs.
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Install the latest adreno drivers problem solved
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I got done comparing Sense and AOSP to AOSP on the Galaxy S2, and discovered that Sense has more of a smooth slow fastness to it, while AOSP is more like lightning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31398307 heres the link to the drivers
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Thanks for the responses everyone. This really helps.
It is not my intention to offend any rezound users, most especially the devs. I know the incredible amount of work they put into the mods and ROMs they provide for free. If I'm slandering anyone, it's HTC and/or Qualcomm. Its because of them the devs have to try and find ways to make things smoother in the first place. I apologize of anyone was offended.
I know this phone was developed with sense in mind and with sense comes a lot of bloat. I considered this to be a reason for the lag, but I still find this unacceptable for such a large company.
I will inform him of the adreno driver update and walk him through how to install them. Thanks for that tidbit of info!
Edit: are these drivers for aosp only or do they work on sense too?
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I got done comparing Sense and AOSP to AOSP on the Galaxy S2, and discovered that Sense has more of a smooth slow fastness to it, while AOSP is more like lightning.
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lol...that's an interesting way of putting it!
Div033 said:
Thanks for the responses everyone. This really helps.
It is not my intention to offend any rezound users, most especially the devs. I know the incredible amount of work they put into the mods and ROMs they provide for free. If I'm slandering anyone, it's HTC and/or Qualcomm. Its because of them the devs have to try and find ways to make things smoother in the first place. I apologize of anyone was offended.
I know this phone was developed with sense in mind and with sense comes a lot of bloat. I considered this to be a reason for the lag, but I still find this unacceptable for such a large company.
I will inform him of the adreno driver update and walk him through how to install them. Thanks for that tidbit of info!
Edit: are these drivers for aosp only or do they work on sense too?
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From what I've gathered they work on both. Tell him to do a nand backup tho just in case
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The drivers work on any ROM
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Div033 said:
Thanks for the responses everyone. This really helps.
It is not my intention to offend any rezound users, most especially the devs. I know the incredible amount of work they put into the mods and ROMs they provide for free. If I'm slandering anyone, it's HTC and/or Qualcomm. Its because of them the devs have to try and find ways to make things smoother in the first place. I apologize of anyone was offended.
I know this phone was developed with sense in mind and with sense comes a lot of bloat. I considered this to be a reason for the lag, but I still find this unacceptable for such a large company.
I will inform him of the adreno driver update and walk him through how to install them. Thanks for that tidbit of info!
Edit: are these drivers for aosp only or do they work on sense too?
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I'm on vigor360 and I have no lag on Sense. I can scroll side to side, pull down the status bar and there is no lag. Maybe its the amount of stuff he's added to the homescreen? I keep mine fairly light.
Also another thing to try if he's using Apex, is to go into settings and change the minimum scrolling time for the homescreen and app drawer from 0 to somewhere between 12-15, that eliminated all the lag for me.
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I just downloaded and flashed the drivers from that link; I'm positive I'm now seeing a large increase in the speed of XDA loading and navigating my home screens. After flashing the new drivers would it make sense for me to see a noticeable difference? Or am I imagining it? Also, if I flash a new ROM in the future will I have to flash that zip again? Also, because the phone runs more smoothly, will battery life decrease faster while moving through the phone?
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I just downloaded and flashed the drivers from that link; I'm positive I'm now seeing a large increase in the speed of XDA loading and navigating my home screens. After flashing the new drivers would it make sense for me to see a noticeable difference? Or am I imagining it? Also, if I flash a new ROM in the future will I have to flash that zip again? Also, because the phone runs more smoothly, will battery life decrease faster while moving through the phone?
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yes it should be a noticeable upgrade! Well that depends if they have included it I'm sure in the future they will...It shouldnt decrease battery life in any way.
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Also another thing to try if he's using Apex, is to go into settings and change the minimum scrolling time for the homescreen and app drawer from 0 to somewhere between 12-15, that eliminated all the lag for me.
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This made a big difference for me in snappiness when switching screens...go figure. Thanks!
A concise explanation is that qualcomms drivers don't accelerate a lot of different types of drawing. There are some newer drivers around the web that add more acceleration. Hopefully jellybean motivates Qualcomm to put full acceleration in like the ti omap 4460 sgx540 in the galaxy nexus and the tegra 3 in the nexus 7 and many other devices. People can hate on nvidia but their android graphics drivers for ICS and jellybean are rock solid. Way smoother in ICS on the transformer prime I played with in the store then my friends epic 4g touch is in cm9 even with the low resolution screen and the exynos. Tegra 3 does amazing on my nexus 7 in jellybean as does the omap 4460 in my nexus. Little to no lag at all.
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I think the real simple answer is HTC didn't have ICS in mind with this phone, and therefore didn't put much effort into it. It's more of a, "Look! We follow through with updates! Buy our ****!" thing.
No lag on Nilsp Business Sense 3.6 or Ineffible Deus ROMS for me. Even on stock kernal.
...just sayin....
Samsung devices generally have more muscular graphics. My girlfriend's Samsung Stratosphere, an inferior device by nearly every measure, scores just about even with my Rezound on graphics benchmarks. I'd fully expect a more modern Samsung to show an edge up against the Rezound.
Sorry if this has already been posted or is in the wrong section i am new to the forums.
Okay i recently got into rooting and putting custom roms on my phone right now i have an HTC evo 4g.
But i am eligable for an upgrade with sprint i have been waiting for a while because i knew there would be an amazing phone to be released soon enough and i am starting to think the SIII.
Is this phone worth it? I would only be paying 250$ for the 32gb and 199$ for the 16gb with my upgrade.
is there any other phones that are up there with the galaxy s3 on sprints network? Or should i just go and get this phone.
is it alot faster then the s2? also will i be able to put jellybean on it if i was to get it? is there a stable release out.
Yes. Go get this phone.
Is the best currently available.
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Buy the phone if you want it. It's a great phone but it may not suit your needs. Check it the specs and compare it with other phones you can choose from .
Your s3 model won't be the international version, it will be the dial core version so check their forum to see their development.
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Buy the phone if you want it. It's a great phone but it may not suit your needs. Check it the specs and compare it with other phones you can choose from .
Your s3 model won't be the international version, it will be the dial core version so check their forum to see their development.
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Is there anything less with the dial core version? I will go try to find there forum now thanks.
Yes
He meant dual core version. You aren't really losing much. Both versions are top of the end amazing phones.
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Yah.. Amazing phone and pretty cheap compare to Iphn5 but more features
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The dual core GS3 has documented and developer-friendly Qualcomm = definitely worth buying.
S3 is easily the best phone I have ever owned (and I have owned a great many top-spec phones).
That said I preferred the S2 in terms of size and weight. But the S3 has a higher quality screen and considerably better battery life
Oooh i see now the I9300 is the quad core version which is not in the US
The US version is dual core.
Okay how big is the difference in speed between the two?
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Okay how big is the difference in speed between the two?
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Should be similar on stock touchwiz. The dual core one is lightyears ahead of the Exynos one, though, when it comes to custom AOSP roms. Why? Well, just ask @codeworkz ^^
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Should be similar on stock touchwiz. The dual core one is lightyears ahead of the Exynos one, though, when it comes to custom AOSP roms. Why? Well, just ask @codeworkz ^^
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Thank you very much.
Just wanted to add my opinion to this one as I'm sick of all the exnos bashing.
Just because cm devs can't get it to work properly does not mean it's bad. It's the best version and I've never ever used a ti Omap or Qualcomm based phone that wasn't **** and dont get me started on cm roms on phones as from desire onwards I've never encountered a cm version worth installing as they aren't worth it. Stock android has always been and always will be lacking and ugly no matter how many cookie cutter mods you implement like volume button wake which is old old old.
Do yourself a favour and stick to Samsung based roms and save the headache and the laughs from people who see your stock android device and the pictures that come off the aosp camera among other things.
The SG III is way better value than the iphone 5.
If you want something "worth buying", you are the only one who can actually decide on this.. because it may/may not suit you. So i suggest you search and gather info for yourself so you get accurate infos
I do not mean to flame or anything, just a mini-suggestion. Hopefully this will help you in your decision
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I am surprised that no one said that you should wait for the Note 2 or the new Nexus or the next Galaxy S x, where x>3. There will always be better, but when you actually start using the phone you see that you don't need anything more, except less call log lag
It is that great that I don't even have the urge to root it right now and I rooted and reflashed everything android I had before.
Dear Devs,
Android 4.4 is out and will support our devices too. Any one to work on to support our beloved Optimus One or All developers moved to a high end device already.
Thanks,
Kiran Kumar
Ya Google said that the low end android smartphones having at least 512mb of ram can run Kitkat smoothly. It will be new birth to our beloved Lg optimus one
Waiting for our developers reaction.
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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But... what about porting AOSP rom ?)
OMG, but one problem all developers are to lazy work with this legacy device! Sorry am bad English
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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nomancoolboy said:
Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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that's not a problem.
-_-
You are like "I want that new 4.4 thingy, i don't know the new features but who cares cos it's New! Yeee ^_^ make it work make it".
Don't get me wrong but,
GB or 2.3.x was the best Android OS for our p500, well i still believe it is.
Why?
Cos there wasn't any Fc's, no post like "oh nooo camera image sh1ty", no malfunction on hardware level nor software,
Some dev, cavemen i believe was his name, fixed our multitouch problem, i don't think this fix was implemented on ics or jb since i've never found any evidence for it, test with "multitouch app" see what i mean.
The ICS is still in development, 4.2 JB has reached his final build, 4.3 has started it's dev.
With ICS we got less free ram, less free storage space but we gained better UI, kinda, and most important better system compatibility. Battery was somewhat intact.
With JB 4.2 we got the 3.0 kernel, more functionality and great battery drain but huge with wifi on. Less ram again, less space, new bugs, and the end of p500 gaming era xD.
Custom Rom numbers have fallen a lot too.
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
(i find Talho and Ginger DX best Roms, Talho as you know for gaming and Ginger as the best customized rom, so much functionality. But I'm running JB only cos gives me the BEST sound quality.)
Cheers.
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Is the new google experience launcher work? I mean does it at least work at the basic level?
please don't expect nexus 4 or nexus 5 functions shinny gimmick but if at least the basic feature of a launcher works then it is little improvement
to experience the feel of newer OS
as for the comment about perfecting 4.0 or 4.2
I am a bit in the middle with that .
because usually newer code is cleaner, thus more efficient, and who knows it maybe backward port friendly
and I think our development for 4.0 and 4.2 has reached is max because of the kernel limitation (correct me if I am wrong)
trying to port 4.4 would be an interesting hack In my opinion . a challange
and proof of concept I know software developer / programmer likes to proof their concept
they like challenge
try and get the google experience launcher here
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
nomancoolboy said:
Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Velvet will fix this
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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chalo99 said:
Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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But the source is not available for armv6 devices ...so we have to wait
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I think that cm will be habit late so why don't you drvs start with another ROM! Maybe simple aosp or a better one slimkat which is already out for nexus 4. I believe that slimkat will fit our phone perfectly as it is slim and needs less system storage.
Thx in advance! Devs are making a valuable effort! Hats off for them!
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another version of google launcher
this time it is XDA version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506488
Velvet FCs for me. Problem may well be an armv7 jni once again. Those FCs make the launcher really fun.
There is a launcher3.apk around which bypasses the Google Now business.
Will 4.4 run on our devices? Really?
Two problems:
Armv6! Pre-compiled closed source stuff for armv7. Just like before.
Room on /system for various new libraries. I am trying them on sdext with symlinks. This is Linux so this should work. This is Android so who knows?
Newer gapps and components are bigger than ever. Sort of contradicts all the buzz.
I was wrong ..
Most of the people are using it as a primary phones :thumbup::thumbup:
Thats good
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Left4DeadMW said:
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Exactly. Project Svelte is what I was referring to. So we should see some better performance than with Jelly Bean.
Logan_M said:
But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Perhaps.
Never said something like useless.
And getting high expect = won't get disappointed at the end.
So kitkat4.4 would have better performance then JB?
I mean, CM team spend time porting/dev JB ROM to our, well I might as say old, p500 and couldn't perfect it, greatest issues still are camera/battery/more space same storage, as android versions progress more and more storage space is taken, as well as ram usage.
And now somehow, google will make 4.4 universal build with all features from previous versions?
Google hasn't made any ICS or JB p500 specific ROM then it would take so much time.
But, making universal builds for phones-alike would be better option but builds won't be phone specific optimized.
I doubt kitkat's realization. It's a nice though but imagine the number of phones that still run on ROMs under JB.
EDIT: (source: xda and wiki)
"video playback performance issues due to missing libraries for hardware assisted decoding since ICS"
Would this be fixed? I remember now, I could never watched those Naruto downloaded ep's, video playback was like 1frame-per-sec (online streaming still fine)