[Q][USB Audio / DAC support] - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys!
Are there any kernels that support USB Audio? When I connect my USB DAC (Audioquest Dragonfly) to the phone it recognizes as a USB drive, when I start USB Audio Player Pro is recognize the DAC but the playback don't start.
Tips?

Doesn't work, never will. Nothing on the firmware side will ever make it so with this device (or at least nothing that any dev has been prepared to do, put it that way), pretty much limited by hardware.

MistahBungle said:
Doesn't work, never will. Nothing on the firmware side will ever make it so with this device (or at least nothing that any dev has been prepared to do, put it that way), pretty much limited by hardware.
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Thank you, that's a shame. Sony Xperia S can do that. Maybe I'll go with S3 for that feature.

Yep it is a shame, it was something I was always really keen to have if it was possible when I used my S2 for 2 yrs, but alas it wasn't to be.

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[Q] Android masquarading as iPod

I PROMISE I have Googled and searched and searched and Googled. I absolutely apologize if this is a repeat or obvious question. I hope that there is a simple answer.
To put it plainly, I am wondering if anyone has made some sort of software that would allow an android device to appear as an iPod/iPhone while attached to a media playing device via USB? Specifically, a car head-unit (radio).
My Pioneer has all kinds of wonderful abilities for talking to and controlling an apple iWhatever, but has almost nothing for other devices. And I just wonder if anyone has helped bridge this gap?
I know that when the Palm Pres first came out, the emulated being an Apple device for a while, and I thought I saw a similar software for Android once upon a time. But if it exists and works today, God knows I am not finding it. SOOOO I thought I would ask in this wonderful, singular place of knowledge, before finally giving up.
Again, I apologize if this is a redundant question. Thanks so much in advance. Have a great day!
bedowyn said:
I PROMISE I have Googled and searched and searched and Googled. I absolutely apologize if this is a repeat or obvious question. I hope that there is a simple answer.
To put it plainly, I am wondering if anyone has made some sort of software that would allow an android device to appear as an iPod/iPhone while attached to a media playing device via USB? Specifically, a car head-unit (radio).
My Pioneer has all kinds of wonderful abilities for talking to and controlling an apple iWhatever, but has almost nothing for other devices. And I just wonder if anyone has helped bridge this gap?
I know that when the Palm Pres first came out, the emulated being an Apple device for a while, and I thought I saw a similar software for Android once upon a time. But if it exists and works today, God knows I am not finding it. SOOOO I thought I would ask in this wonderful, singular place of knowledge, before finally giving up.
Again, I apologize if this is a redundant question. Thanks so much in advance. Have a great day!
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Lemme guess-you have a AVIC head unit? If so, me too! (X910BT). I actually posed a somewhat similar question asking for information on how to program A2DP so I can spoof the Bluetooth into thinking it were a supported model so we could stream Slacker.....
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can help us....
What is the connection method? If its USB you could try mass storage device mode just to access the files themselves assuming the player has some sort of GUI to navigate the directories.
The easiest method if you want to control audio via the phone is to just hook the headphone output into the aux. Apple's proprietary usb connection has audio out and thats how docks are able to use it.
What is the radio model and have you tried Googling for a solution. I can't believe the manufacturer would just leave all other devices in the dark, but I have seen stuff like this before.
spunker88 said:
What is the connection method? If its USB you could try mass storage device mode just to access the files themselves assuming the player has some sort of GUI to navigate the directories.
The easiest method if you want to control audio via the phone is to just hook the headphone output into the aux. Apple's proprietary usb connection has audio out and thats how docks are able to use it.
What is the radio model and have you tried Googling for a solution. I can't believe the manufacturer would just leave all other devices in the dark, but I have seen stuff like this before.
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Ummm... yes, connecting by USB. And yes I googled first. The pioneer will mount a USB mass storage device, but it is slow and lacks much in the way of functionality, such as sorting and playlists. Again, if the phone "pretended" to be an iSomething, then that would be ideal. I am wondering if such is possible.
bedowyn said:
Ummm... yes, connecting by USB. And yes I googled first. The pioneer will mount a USB mass storage device, but it is slow and lacks much in the way of functionality, such as sorting and playlists. Again, if the phone "pretended" to be an iSomething, then that would be ideal. I am wondering if such is possible.
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I posted the same question a week ago with no answers. Great source of information here.
Anyway I dont think the issue is making the android system "pretend" to be an apple product as blackberries also work fine. I think droid needs a software to make it compatible wit this usb feature.

S3 usb to car stereo?

Am I correct that from what I have read...you can NOT plug your s3 into the usb of a car stereo and have it play and show song names etc? So unless they "fix" the usb mount issue the only options is aux or bluetooth? All the talk of the awesome sound these things are on paper anyways capable of and the purist connection to a car stereo is not available? Like many Im waiting for my US version to arrive in a couple of weeks and just trying to get a grip on what to expect and not expect is all.
Correct. You can't connect the S3 to a car stereo like a USB stick at the moment.
...unless your car stereo supports the MTP protocol
They have to be working to fix this right? I certainly hope they are....kind of hard to believe they made a change like this really.
+1
I guess since Im switching from a iPhone I have just gotten use to being able to use the phone with just about anything I try to attach it to. I do not regret jumping to Android with this upcoming phone, Im done with apple, but I think its been long enough these guys need to get the ball rolling on more streamlined connectivity on a semi universal scale like the iphone has. I really dont want to have to keep the iphone around just so I can listen to my tunes in the car.
This irritates the faeces out of me.
Android File Manager on Mac is flakey with it. And now, I'm in work on my XP machine and I can't get files off of it.
Grrrr. Why the hell have they stopped USB Debugging from being able to mount as normal?! Or just have the "Mount on Next Connect" option like on the S2's ICS rollout (Which was annoying too, but at least it worked).
I just don't get why Google are doing stuff like this and stopping you install on external memory. Is Google starting to become like Apple where they just bend over to networks and developers so they can make as much money as possible while the customer suffers? If this is how they going I'm really not liking it.
For those interested in the reason why MTP was chosen over USB mass storage mode: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage
member68 said:
For those interested in the reason why MTP was chosen over USB mass storage mode: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage
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I get the reason they dropped it for phones with only internal storage, but why doesn't the SGS3 support it with its external SD-CARD?
Has Samsung made any statements about this? Because all I know is not being able to connect to my car, tv, other computers etc. and not being able to transfer Apps to external memory is completely ruining this phone for me and can't use it the way I usually use Androids, I mean now I always have to carry around a flash drive and a OTG cable and transfer from phone to flash drive then flash drive to other device, and I really don't give a crap about their technical explanation because i'd rather have a rougher Android experience with all the features than what they doing here, and I shouldn't be having to Root my phone just to get stuff that should already be there.
I'm so mad! I just got a new deck today and it doesn't recognize my SGS3 via USB! :crying::crying::crying:
Has there been a fix since the last post?
Edit: I actually found a fix! Easy UMS! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Just get poweramp pro and a large sd-card, keep your music in .flac and sound quality is pretty decent even through the 3.5mil jack
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Pushing audio through microUSB to head unit

So one thing I really liked about my iPhone was the ability to push audio through the charge port into my truck's head unit (radio) while charging. The head unit has a usb port on the front and it charges my phone, and if I put the phone into storage mode, the head unit can read the storage on my phone. Now I want to push audio from apps like Google Play Music and iheart radio. Is this possible? I'm rooted.
Also on a side note, since I am rooted, can I update OTA without looking root? I used the steps from galaxys3root.com.
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joshbgosh10592 said:
So one thing I really liked about my iPhone was the ability to push audio through the charge port into my truck's head unit (radio) while charging. The head unit has a usb port on the front and it charges my phone, and if I put the phone into storage mode, the head unit can read the storage on my phone. Now I want to push audio from apps like Google Play Music and iheart radio. Is this possible? I'm rooted.
Also on a side note, since I am rooted, can I update OTA without looking root? I used the steps from galaxys3root.com.
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Sorry bud but most USB head units are mass storage or iPhone only. I'd invest on a Bluetooth headunit with audio streaming profile like the Sony MEX-BT4000P.
Get a windshield mount (had a factory one for my Atrix, loved it) and Bluetooth that bad boy. You'll also get cool stuff like car phone answering and if you use Vlingo in car you can made heads turn.
This feature will come with jelly bean
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That is awesome!! But until that time comes, is there a way to do that on ICS?
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I've been trying to get this to work for about a week now. The guys at my local car audio place are just as frustrated as I am.
I even tried using the OTG connection, no dice.
Supposedly some of the new Sony units support MTP, but then you're using Sony (which I guess doesn't have a great reputation, I'm kind of new to this whole thing).
CM will probably get Mass Storage enabled at some point, but that still isn't an ideal solution.
Jelly Bean will offer true USB audio streaming, but from what I've read the device you are streaming to will also have to support it. Whether that support can be added via a firmware update or will require new hardware is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.
This is all very annoying since part of the reason I got my S3 was to finally upgrade the sound in my car. I know I can use an Aux or Bluetooth connection in the meantime, but if the Jelly Bean tech requires new hardware it will be a pain to sell my old hardware and re-install the new.
I guess at this point it's just waiting to see when/if headunits will support the Jelly Bean audio streaming.
rockerrock said:
Sorry bud but most USB head units are mass storage or iPhone only. I'd invest on a Bluetooth headunit with audio streaming profile like the Sony MEX-BT4000P.
Get a windshield mount (had a factory one for my Atrix, loved it) and Bluetooth that bad boy. You'll also get cool stuff like car phone answering and if you use Vlingo in car you can made heads turn.
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The thing is, I don't have the money to get a new head unit.. I could just connect the aux to the unit. I also forgot to mention I have a Sony Xplod (Not sure of the model right now, but it's about 2 years old.)
I think I'm just forced to connecting aux and usb to keep it charged on my trips..
Mass Storage has been enabled for the International S3, so it's likely it will for the US version soon. That should solve a lot of your problems. Though as I said above, UMS is still not an ideal solution (but far superior to Aux or Bluetooth).
lynkdead said:
I've been trying to get this to work for about a week now. The guys at my local car audio place are just as frustrated as I am.
I even tried using the OTG connection, no dice.
Supposedly some of the new Sony units support MTP, but then you're using Sony (which I guess doesn't have a great reputation, I'm kind of new to this whole thing).
CM will probably get Mass Storage enabled at some point, but that still isn't an ideal solution.
Jelly Bean will offer true USB audio streaming, but from what I've read the device you are streaming to will also have to support it. Whether that support can be added via a firmware update or will require new hardware is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.
This is all very annoying since part of the reason I got my S3 was to finally upgrade the sound in my car. I know I can use an Aux or Bluetooth connection in the meantime, but if the Jelly Bean tech requires new hardware it will be a pain to sell my old hardware and re-install the new.
I guess at this point it's just waiting to see when/if headunits will support the Jelly Bean audio streaming.
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I'm a noob when it comes to Andriod.. I am a recovering iPhone user and do not know what most of the acronyms mean. I've looked around on google and can't find what they mean lol. OTG, MTP, and CM, what do they mean?
Also, is there a way to hurry up the process of me being verified for my new user account? The waiting 5 minutes is getting old... Thanks
joshbgosh10592 said:
I'm a noob when it comes to Andriod.. I am a recovering iPhone user and do not know what most of the acronyms mean. I've looked around on google and can't find what they mean lol. OTG, MTP, and CM, what do they mean?
Also, is there a way to hurry up the process of me being verified for my new user account? The waiting 5 minutes is getting old... Thanks
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Once you pass 10 posts the 5 minute limit will be lowered to 2 minutes.
OTG = On the Go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
MTP = Media Transfer Protocol, as opposed to Mass Storage. I'm not clear on the reason for using it since it seems like UMS is more useful in almost every way.
CM = Cyanogenmod. The most popular and widespread Android ROM.
Ahh ok thank you! I should be getting close to that haha. And I guess UMS is something like Universal Mass Storage?
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[Q] USB DAC/audio

Hey, I've been through the forums searching out whether the i9100 has the capability to run its audio through a usb dac and have only come up with old and dead threads. This http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=838 is saying that to utilize at lease their dacs you only have to either be compatible with usbaudioplayerpro or have a cyanogenmod rom (i'm guessing CM10/11). I've checked the compatibility list for the usbaudioplayer (http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/) and the i9100 isn't officially compatible because it has "No USB host mode" at term I think is synonymous with otg, and I've used an otg checker and my current setup (i9100 with http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-gt-i9100-resurrection-remix-v4-0-7-t1436854) has that capability. On top of this the resurrection remix 4.4.2 rom is based on CM11 and so that makes me think that it will have the usbaudio problem solved anyway. I hope that I haven't missed anything significant, and for those wondering, the reason I haven't posted this in the rr thread is that I need ten posts to post there. Hopefully someone can confirm that this is now possible so that I, and others interested can go about buying usb dacs to bypass the shoddy yamaha internal dac.
tldr; is it now possible to run a usb dac on the i9100 using the new kitkat roms (specifically http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-gt-i9100-resurrection-remix-v4-0-7-t1436854).
Thanks,
Luke
TL;DR = no.
MistahBungle said:
TL;DR = no.
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I've seen that you have always been on the answer end of these threads, hopefully you can tell me why this really is and what steve kondik's work has done for the situation as I've read that he solved the problem for CM (an idea backed up by the original link i posted). Why has his contribution made the difference on other models but not this one? So it's a hardware issue or? Sorry if you just end up repeating yourself but it's not quite making sense.
Thanks,
Luke
I've been on the answer ends on a lot of these threads because for the two yrs I used my S2 (I don't anymore), I was very keen to have USB DAC functionality for myself if it was possible. Yes, everyone is aware of what he's been able to do, but it isn't possible with this device due to hardware limitations.
Trust me, if it was possible, it would have been done by now, as you know you're not exactly the first person who would like this to work.
Edit - It hasn't solved the problem for CM period, it's solved the problem for a number of devices. If you don't believe me, flash CM & see if you can get it to work.
Sorry for the thread resurrection... I happend to browse across the following, which looks promising:
- Galaxy S2 DIY Car Dock with USB audio output (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skgEKS4uzWA)
- [HOWTO] Enable the car dock external audio without Samsung's Home apps by TheBeano (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980937)
- Fun with resistors (home/car dock mode + more) by TheBeano (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275)
I am also kinda interested in this.
So far it seems that my headset is being detected by my s2 running pac rom.
There is still no sound output.
I would say it is because the lack of usb audio drivers in our devices.
All that is needed is to compile the snd_usb_audio.ko module and load it.
From there on, I assume android can handle it well enough.
Otherwise we can use alsa directly.
Edit: After loading the module, sound works (from chroot) but I don't know how to tell android to output to the headset.
ruleh said:
I am also kinda interested in this.
So far it seems that my headset is being detected by my s2 running pac rom.
There is still no sound output.
I would say it is because the lack of usb audio drivers in our devices.
All that is needed is to compile the snd_usb_audio.ko module and load it.
From there on, I assume android can handle it well enough.
Otherwise we can use alsa directly.
Edit: After loading the module, sound works (from chroot) but I don't know how to tell android to output to the headset.
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Hi ruleh, can you try this trial app 'USB Audio Player PRO' to test if it works? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
You can find the trial link in the app description section.
Do let us know your findings.
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tltan86 said:
Hi ruleh, can you try this trial app 'USB Audio Player PRO' to test if it works? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
You can find the trial link in the app description section.
Do let us know your findings.
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I will look at this at some point after I get my kernel sorted out.
(probably this week)
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after a few more staring at the item (as item gallery does not have better view perspectives), i could be wrong... ha. i'll update back once i have more details ya.
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i found this cable, "USB 2.0 Adapter Splitter to micro usb 5pin + Car Aux Stereo Jack audio 3.5mm" - http://www.wish.com/geek/m/c/552f5808563a980bffe08ae8, which allow phone to go into "car mode"... i have yet to try, but i believe with this, you no need to diy your own as mentioned in my previous post; and it seems that you only need to rewire the 3.5mm audio jack to the usb male connector...?
ha. my two cents.
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[Q] Android USB Audio Out without OTG or kernel change?

Hello. Today I have made terrible mistake when trying to turn on a device in my pc. I have changed the voltage from my source power and my pc has exploded. Luckly, only the power supply has exploded in fact, like all other things are working and I'm typing this now on my pc. However the integrated sound card from my motherboard have stop working, don't get recognized even when I try to uninstall and re-install. I think it have damaged...
Well, this sucks, but while I don't spend a few bucks trying to get a cheap off-board sound card, I was thinking if there are any way to make a android device sounds like a USB offboard sound card. I have searched in web and XDA for a answer, but always I get the solution using wifi. I already get this working, but has a small lag, and this is uncomfortable. Others resolutions always use some kind of kernel change or/and OTG support with the device.
TLDR: Now, this is my question: Someone has managed to send the audio from the PC via USB for a android in a device (like a off-board USB sound card), and this could be possible without kernel changes or OTG? (My Moto E don't support OTG, unfortunately)
PS: Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to share my unlucky story.

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