Liquipel - Ornate TrueSmart

So......I Was thinking of getting my x201 treated with Liquipel nanocoating. I emailed the company out in Santa Anna, Ca. waiting to hear back from them with an estimate. Now since the casing is supposed to be "water resistant" should I disassemble the watch first and send it into them in parts? I'm guessing this will void my warranty but then again so will just about doing anything to my TS will void omate's warranty. Anyone here tried this on their electronic devices?

kssr said:
So......I Was thinking of getting my x201 treated with Liquipel nanocoating. I emailed the company out in Santa Anna, Ca. waiting to hear back from them with an estimate. Now since the casing is supposed to be "water resistant" should I disassemble the watch first and send it into them in parts? I'm guessing this will void my warranty but then again so will just about doing anything to my TS will void omate's warranty. Anyone here tried this on their electronic devices?
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I don't know how the process works, but the TS casing is nowhere near water resistant. So yes, probably disassemble it to get better penetration of the coating. I wonder if you will have issues with the antenna connection and other parts that are nearly sealed but not quite. Maybe the coating can protect the gaps in the seal.

OK so I got a response from Liquipel. I'll post it below. So it appears they will treat the watch but you have to sign off on a waver because they've not tested the process on the TS......"Thank you for your response! We can treat your smartwatch for you, but we will require that you sign off on the attached waiver since we have not tested your specific device. We will require that you disassemble the device prior to sending it to us and we will send it back to you to be reassembled. Please also note that the coating may also have a slight effect on the look of the silicone band. If you would like to move forward with the treatment, please feel free to place an order through our website by selecting one of the headphone devices as the price will be the same at $30.00. If you have any questions regarding the ordering process, please feel free to contact us via email or by phone at 1.855.478.4735".

Sounds interesting, if you're happy to take the risk on dis-assembling. I'd still not treat it as waterproof, but this might save you against accidents.

if you go for it be sure to let us know how it goes

Or you can order some of this stuff and do it yourself
http://www.nanostate.co.uk/flash-flood-to-waterproof-smartphones-and-tablets-5ml-p-3.php
Looking at it $30 does seem like good value but not sure if that includes shipping, you might be able to use the same bottle of flashflood on several devices though...
However liquipel might do a much better job then diy
Actually the ipod video they did makes me think, open up my TS and dunk the whole watch into the stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNnbU2qn0HA#t=130
Just having it on the screen might be interesting for when you have wet hands and don't want to glitch the touch screen...

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Invisible Shield problems

IF you where thinking about buying the Invisible Shield for your TP2 I would suggest you be very careful. This company makes a crap product for our device and their warranty is apparently worthless. Here is my post to their Facebook page which I am sure will be gone as quickly as someone see's it there:
Your company is unethical. First your kiosk puts the wrong shield on my device, then you charge my card for the honor of getting a warranty replacement that I had already paid extra to have installed on my device to reinstall myself and then you take 2 weeks to get the new shield to me. I send the old shield back the SAME day I received the new one and you still charge me $25 bucks today for the replacement saying I did not get the old one back to you in time. YOUR WARRANTY IS DESIGNED TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM USING IT. I will never buy one of your products ever again. I will also make sure that I post this wherever I see someone is asking about your product to make sure no one else makes the same mistake. The so called proper shield you sent for my device does not even cover the most vulnerable parts of the device so in the end I paid $60 for a piece of vinyl that will not even fully protect the device. What a waste.
I have never had these problems with the Ghost Armor I have put on other devices and they actually honor their warranty. Learn from my mistake and avoid these people. If you have this product and like it, that is fine but don't be making snarky remarks on this post. This is merely informational to warn other people of my experience.
Thanks for the heads up.
-1 for Inv. shield man.
For me, I ordered mine from the Bodyguardz.
Their customer service is great.
First order gone missing, sent new replacement rightaway.
Thanks for sharing mate. : )
I bought several Inv. shields before for my digital camera, mp3 player, old TyTnII etc. and used warranty exchange once without hassles, but what I found out is, they consistently cut protectors a little small, meaning half to one milimeter off on the screen, which annoys me since it costs 20+ dollars.
This time I bought it from BodyGuardz, we'll see how it turns out (did not receive them yet)
I think will try the Wrapsol next myself. Looking at the kit they have for the Tmobile version, coverage is excellent and there should be no more skippy finger on the screen or orange peel with it. Does not look like it is made out of the helicopter blade vinyl like all the other ones so it probably gets damaged itself more easily but should protect the phone. Anything bad enough to damage any kind of thin wrap all the way through is going to break the phone anyways whether the wrap is there or not. They are just there to stop scratches and such. Looks like their lifetime warranty does not require you to jump through hoops to get a replacement. I emailed customer service and they told me about the warranty and that they should have a Verizon wrap pretty quick.
armor?
Had my 1st ghost armor experience yesterday. Long story shortened-difficult to apply with any degree of perfection (screen only!) Ultimately removed it-will try warrantying & trying again. Not too optimistic though, as when it was on I felt there was an unacceptable degree of "rainbow patterning". What good is any armor if it distorts the view of such an elegant screen?
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IF you where thinking about buying the Invisible Shield for your TP2 I would suggest you be very careful. This company makes a crap product for our device and their warranty is apparently worthless. Here is my post to their Facebook page which I am sure will be gone as quickly as someone see's it there:
Your company is unethical. First your kiosk puts the wrong shield on my device, then you charge my card for the honor of getting a warranty replacement that I had already paid extra to have installed on my device to reinstall myself and then you take 2 weeks to get the new shield to me. I send the old shield back the SAME day I received the new one and you still charge me $25 bucks today for the replacement saying I did not get the old one back to you in time. YOUR WARRANTY IS DESIGNED TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM USING IT. I will never buy one of your products ever again. I will also make sure that I post this wherever I see someone is asking about your product to make sure no one else makes the same mistake. The so called proper shield you sent for my device does not even cover the most vulnerable parts of the device so in the end I paid $60 for a piece of vinyl that will not even fully protect the device. What a waste.
I have never had these problems with the Ghost Armor I have put on other devices and they actually honor their warranty. Learn from my mistake and avoid these people. If you have this product and like it, that is fine but don't be making snarky remarks on this post. This is merely informational to warn other people of my experience.
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I never had that problem before. I order the Zagg shield full body for my ipod touch and after a while the corner to pilling off. I call customer service and with-en five, ten mins they charge my account 4 bucks for a new shield.
Basically what im trying to say... is that you got owned... and on top of that ur not even happy with the product
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does anyone have a vector template of the touch pro2?
thanks

Complete Water proofing phones/electronics now available.

for those of you who like to drop your phone in the toilet:
Completely submerged phone in water
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Ama47RGdL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ln0daAowdJI
Only a few devices are supported now but as they get started I'm sure they'll include more phones...this thing is amazing, I would pay to have my phone water proofed for around 60 dollars is what is listed on their site.
www.liquipel.com
http://www.liquipel.com/liquipel/
wish they had it for our phones, hopefully soon , wonder if i can call them and see if they can do our phone!!!
I was gonna send my mytouch 4g to them, but then I got the Amaze... now I gotta wait... One thing that's good is that I have a backup phone once I send my phone to them.
I just don't see how that's possible if they don't cover the ports that give access to the inside of the phone.
Considering our ports on our phone lead right into our battery cover and all of our internal components.
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I just don't see how that's possible if they don't cover the ports that give access to the inside of the phone.
Considering our ports on our phone lead right into our battery cover and all of our internal components.
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nano technology, gets everywhere in the phone....1/1000 as thick as human hair.
seansk said:
nano technology, gets everywhere in the phone....1/1000 as thick as human hair.
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What do you think though? Legit? Doable?
Guess we won't know til we can test it. Lol.
nguyendqh said:
What do you think though? Legit? Doable?
Guess we won't know til we can test it. Lol.
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its legit, but I don't know if they'll do our phones yet, there's only a small list, iphone a a bunch of HTC's like evo, but not our phone yet, if we call them maybe they'll do it...I don't see why not.
This technology has been in the works for a while. I remember reading about it and seeing videos of it in action a while back, like at least 5 years ago. I'm super excited to see that it's finally coming around!
It's basically a spray, or a vapor, or a liquid itself, that they spray on or dunk the electronics in. It coats literally EVERYTHING inside it. Imagine dipping your phone in thick paint and letting it dry. Same concept but this is a nano thin layer of a clear substance that repels water. Amazing stuff.
I'm definitely going to give it a shot if their site ever loads and I can find out how much it costs. Haha
danielelias said:
This technology has been in the works for a while. I remember reading about it and seeing videos of it in action a while back, like at least 5 years ago. I'm super excited to see that it's finally coming around!
It's basically a spray, or a vapor, or a liquid itself, that they spray on or dunk the electronics in. It coats literally EVERYTHING inside it. Imagine dipping your phone in thick paint and letting it dry. Same concept but this is a nano thin layer of a clear substance that repels water. Amazing stuff.
I'm definitely going to give it a shot if their site ever loads and I can find out how much it costs. Haha
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costs 60 dollars, but they don't list amaze as one of the phones they support, I'm going to call them right now see if they can do it.
seems cool. waiting for the amaze to be one day available
I have seen some other companies doing the same thing, except with car windshields. It's like a high-tech rainex. Very cool, didnt thing it would be out for phones this soon, but that's incredible! I wonder if you will be able to remove the housing on your phone after it get's sprayed with this stuff, and it still be waterproof upon putting it back together. like nguy said earlier it has to seal off the ports, and dis-assembling it would definitely break this seal.
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I have seen some other companies doing the same thing, except with car windshields. It's like a high-tech rainex. Very cool, didnt thing it would be out for phones this soon, but that's incredible! I wonder if you will be able to remove the housing on your phone after it get's sprayed with this stuff, and it still be waterproof upon putting it back together. like nguy said earlier it has to seal off the ports, and dis-assembling it would definitely break this seal.
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Yes you can, they did this with and HTC device and there's a video of it on their website on the bottom. you can take off the back, the battery, heck you can dissasseble put it in water and put it back, IT WILL STILL WORK. This nano spray goes into every SINGLE CREVICE OF YOUR PHONE. it is nano technology!!
Sound or heating issues ?
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Sound or heating issues ?
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This does not affect the phone in any way...its nano...search nano and see how small it is, 1 nanometer = 1.0 × 10-6 millimeters, its at least 1 millionth of a millimeter or smaller... you can see on a ruller how big a millimeter is. does that answer your questions, if won't affect anything, just repel water. if it doesn't affect the conductance between the battery and the phone, it really wont' affect anything else...but call and ask them, i'm sure you'll get the same answer
another video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7Ama47RGdL4
I am guessing that all this does is protect the electronic components from shorting out or corroding if they are exposed to liquids. I also assume that if you submerge the phone, it will still sink and fill with water and you will still get water under the screen and have to dry it out, etc.
Finally, and I didn't read their web site, but does the process void the warranty?
I watched a couple videos on this tested on the iphone and thunderbolt and it did work. i wouldnt want to test it unless i had a backup or something. it would be safe to have just cause though
tedya said:
I am guessing that all this does is protect the electronic components from shorting out or corroding if they are exposed to liquids. I also assume that if you submerge the phone, it will still sink and fill with water and you will still get water under the screen and have to dry it out, etc.
Finally, and I didn't read their web site, but does the process void the warranty?
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what does this have to do with warranty? how would HTC know?
seansk said:
what does this have to do with warranty? how would HTC know?
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I asked about the warranty because I had not seen the video on how this is applied to the phone. I have since seen that. So, if that is how it is applied, every phone should be supported soon.
Believe me, I am the same way; How would HTC know? I guess I am just not convinced that the $60 application is worth it. With any phone, i see it as paying $60 for this application, something other than water damage occurs and I get the phone replaced. If I understand this right, now I have to get this application done again for another $60 because my replacement is a different phone.
If not already, this company should be selling their technology to the OEM. I think the Moto Droid Razr already has this or something similar.
I know many of you will disagree, but this is just plain "gimmicky". I would only consider this if I didn't pay for monthly insurance. I am 10x more likely to drop and break the phone than I am to get water damage. I think most people are.
According to their own terms of use, they only warrant/guarantee that they will apply the coating, not that it will work.
Does anyone reading here work at a cell phone store who can say what the most common reason for a replacement is? I'd be curious.

Help! Shafted by Sony's incompetence and false waterproof claims!

Repair # 1-20162112859
My phone was left on the table while it was raining last week (flaps fully closed of course) and when I picked it up to check something after a while I saw it was turning itself off. After that it never came back alive no matter what I tried. I noticed the camera lenses had fully frosted up so it was apparent that water had seeped in somehow.
I dried the phone for over a day but it simply didn't work! I sent it to Sony for warranty repair as I expected it to be covered since I used it under their advertised conditions and you expect it to take a bit of rain at the minimum.
To my utter horror they have come back as saying that because the phone has some other physical damage on the other side (it has a very slight bend in the left side middle which i don't recall it having) it means that the warranty is automatically void and they don't even need to investigate the water damage or the reason why the waterproofing failed via faulty flaps! But the failed flap is the one on the opposite/right side where the SIM and memory card go! It doesn't even make sense!
I have attached the repair centre (SBE Ltd. UK) sent pictures as evidence.
I assure you that the 2 are completely unrelated and on the opposite sides of the phone. They are simply using cause and effect and not scientific tests to rub their hands off my claim. There are plenty threads online showing that Sony Z3 phones have been failing at waterproofing. Given Sony's dropping sales they should at least help out their customers and stick by their principles and marketing claims.
To top up the experience the rude customer service even charge me £20 to ship phone back! Extortion?
I was a staunch Sony fan who owned the Xperia S, Z, Z2 and Z3 but my Sony story is well and truly over! I will go to a small consumer court as I will not give up because I am right! can anyone in UK advise what are my rights and course of action?
More shocked than disappointed.
That doesn't look like a Z3v which this is the sub-forum for.
I also had and issue with the upper right/lower left corners developed a crack in the body of the phone, contacted Sony and they said "sorry warranty is voided, physical damage", phone has never been dropped, but I do carry it in my back pocket. Hasn't gotten water in it, but have not gotten it wet yet to see if water resistance integrity has been compromised.
Phones are too thin now-a-days and bend and flex way to easily. $.02
Lesson learned -- never buy thin phone again.
1linuxfreak said:
That doesn't look like a Z3v which this is the sub-forum for.
I also had and issue with the upper right/lower left corners developed a crack in the body of the phone, contacted Sony and they said "sorry warranty is voided, physical damage", phone has never been dropped, but I do carry it in my back pocket. Hasn't gotten water in it, but have not gotten it wet yet to see if water resistance integrity has been compromised.
Phones are too thin now-a-days and bend and flex way to easily. $.02
Lesson learned -- never buy thin phone again.
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I have insurance with Verizon, so I just know Verizon will take care of any problems with my phone. I know Sony is hard to deal with, and I was trying to get help with a Bluetooth headset I have. The screen went out for no reason, but they require a reboot for proof of purchase. I purchased through eBay and I have PayPal as my proof, but they won't accept. Idk what else to do.
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I'm usually careful with my phones and keep them for 2+ years with just normal wear and scuffs but this just makes me think about getting square trade every time I read stuff like this. It would be nice if pay pal had at least 1 year protection for electronics at $250 and up.
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I have insurance with Verizon, so I just know Verizon will take care of any problems with my phone. I know Sony is hard to deal with, and I was trying to get help with a Bluetooth headset I have. The screen went out for no reason, but they require a reboot for proof of purchase. I purchased through eBay and I have PayPal as my proof, but they won't accept. Idk what else to do.
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Odd isn't it? I mean, I have ordered products through eBay before and had a problem with that product and the manufacture had no problem accepting eBay receipt as proof of purchase and warrantied the product no questions asked, difference between a good company and Sony.

Change frame on the Z5 Premium??

Hope someone can help me, but I got this on my phone and I hope I can fix it.
Jacob_Bentzen said:
Hope someone can help me, but I got this on my phone and I hope I can fix it.
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Hey,
As what I've seen in the tear down videos, the plastic corner is part of the entire inner body, and if you want it fixed, the entire phone must be dissembled and the inner body replaced with a new one. If you do this in a uncertified repair shop, you can forget about water resistant part of the phone specifications. The metal part by my opinion can be replaced without full phone disassembly.
Actually I dropped mine with a tpu case, and I can see a small deformation on the metal part only too.. (on almost the same place like yours)
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Hey,
As what I've seen in the tear down videos, the plastic corner is part of the entire inner body, and if you want it fixed, the entire phone must be dissembled and the inner body replaced with a new one. If you do this in a uncertified repair shop, you can forget about water resistant part of the phone specifications. The metal part by my opinion can be replaced without full phone disassembly.
Actually I dropped mine with a tpu case, and I can see a small deformation on the metal part only too.. (on almost the same place like yours)
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That sounds expensive
If your phone was to say "brake" due to manufacture fault and you take your phone back to where you got it, you might just get a replacement. Wink wink.
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If your phone was to say "brake" due to manufacture fault and you take your phone back to where you got it, you might just get a replacement. Wink wink.
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thats too late when it has already fell to the ground, with marks like that there will be straight no.
Its not Sony's fault you dropped it, and they dont know if it was "broken" before the fall or not, thus they wont replace it.
I am not saying it is like this all around the world, but we operate by these guidelines where i work, and they are provided by Sony, and thats what I know.
Heya.
I have same problem with my 6683. Any idea where I can find an inner metal frame for it so I can change it myself, or with someone from London, which I assume I'll find here, on XDA Developers forum and wants to give it a try, or has already done this magic before?
Cheers.
Actually, corners are sold separately, depends on where you shop. I know witrigs.com has them, 4 corners for a set.
can the 4 corner parts be replaced without damaging water resist
Witrigs sells the whole frame for 17 USD. It's listed as "OEM Middle Frame Replacement for Sony Xperia Z5 Premium COLOR". I ordered mine and couldnt be happier with it, my phone looks brand new
They also sell the corners but they're about 4 USD, so the full frame is a better value.
Thank you
I already purchased some parts for another phone and they came fast enough. I enjoyed the experience with them and I'm pleased to recommend as a trustful company.
Now, I just need to save some money to repair all my phones owned in the last years.
Hopefully, soon we won't be needing them -
now-you-can-protect-your-phone-from-falls-with-this-airbag-case-that-pops .

Anyone have RMA issues?

Asus says my watch is water damaged. It's at least IP67 certified but I can tell you with 100% certainty I've never swam with this watch or showered with it. The most is maybe wash my hands but I'm not the type to go doctor style to wash my hands.
They haven't told me how much it's going to cost but there is going to be a cost. My dispute is that I shouldn't be charged. Has anyone else had issues with RMA before?
EXTRA details. The watch was sent in before for touch responses not working and they repaired it for free. I sent it in the 2nd time for the exact same issue and that's when they told me there is water damage.
Something fishy is going on but I wanted to get other's experiences.
Asus is renowned for having exceptionally bad customer service. Their products are actually fairly good, and I have a variety of Asus products that still work great, but if you get a bad one, it usually snowballs to the point where you just toss it and try again.
However, depending on where you live, you can hold their feet to the fire. The only way to prove moisture intrusion (other than visible water in the cavity) is with a sensor strip. Demand to see the strip if they keep giving you lip about it.
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Asus is renowned for having exceptionally bad customer service. Their products are actually fairly good, and I have a variety of Asus products that still work great, but if you get a bad one, it usually snowballs to the point where you just toss it and try again.
However, depending on where you live, you can hold their feet to the fire. The only way to prove moisture intrusion (other than visible water in the cavity) is with a sensor strip. Demand to see the strip if they keep giving you lip about it.
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Problem is they keep saying they are going to send me pictures but it's been over a week since they have received it. This is beyond horrible.
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