So I have been fighting with my phone all freaking day and am ready to toss on the towel... I have been rocking Viper rom 1.8.0 for a couple months now and today they updated to the new 4.4.3 base. it was suggested rather strongly to update framework to 2.22.401.4. I am still on 1.54..... And here begins my saga....
I tried to update the framework with FUU, and it constantly fails out at the black screen with silver HTC logo. it was suggested that this is because I am still S-ON. so I went to the firewater thread and tried that. would NOT do anything untill I went away from Viper Rom and loaded Insert Coin rom. Firewater ran, but gave me a message stating that it is not possible to S-OFF my phone...
So I ask, HELP!!!!!!! I read about sunshine, but sadly right no I simply don't have 25 bucks to toss at an app that I do not know will work on my phone...
Ok, so I just read a different thread in the general section that states that firewater is no longer working... damn. looks like on payday I gotta drop 25 bucks....
I paid for SunShine last night since firewater wouldn't work for me
i ended up just paying for sunshine.
Like the others, I had to use sunshine. The other methods would not work for me.
AT&T 4.4.3 is available now?
Where I can find firmware?
UPD:
Sorry, now I see that it is was a custom 4.4.3 rom.
schollianmj said:
Ok, so I just read a different thread in the general section that states that firewater is no longer working... damn. looks like on payday I gotta drop 25 bucks....
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Its true more recent AT&T M8's do not work with firewater. Not sure if its directly linked to newer firmware number (1.58) or hboot, or some other factor, but its been reported by many here. Sunshine is your only real option.
Sunshine seems pretty darn reliable based on reports here. I don't think there is an issue with it not working like firewater.
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schollianmj said:
I tried to update the framework with FUU, and it constantly fails out at the black screen with silver HTC logo. it was suggested that this is because I am still S-ON.
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Seeing as there is no 2.22 firmware "officially" available for the AT&T version yet, you must be trying flash another carrier's firmware. In that case, yes S-off is expressly required.
I got a refurb unit to replace my old phone that I had S-OFF and Bootloader unlocked... Unfortunately, It wasn't a lack of skill this last time, but the exploit used by firewater is out dated now. For whatever reason they haven't updated it since the phone's release so now everyone is left to pay for SunShine. I paid for it. It works, and great. Just the $25 dollars.. It was unfortunate.
schollianmj said:
So I have been fighting with my phone all freaking day and am ready to toss on the towel... I have been rocking Viper rom 1.8.0 for a couple months now and today they updated to the new 4.4.3 base. it was suggested rather strongly to update framework to 2.22.401.4. I am still on 1.54..... And here begins my saga....
I tried to update the framework with FUU, and it constantly fails out at the black screen with silver HTC logo. it was suggested that this is because I am still S-ON. so I went to the firewater thread and tried that. would NOT do anything untill I went away from Viper Rom and loaded Insert Coin rom. Firewater ran, but gave me a message stating that it is not possible to S-OFF my phone...
So I ask, HELP!!!!!!! I read about sunshine, but sadly right no I simply don't have 25 bucks to toss at an app that I do not know will work on my phone...
Ok, so I just read a different thread in the general section that states that firewater is no longer working... damn. looks like on payday I gotta drop 25 bucks....
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First of all you need stock kernel for firewater or sunshine to work. Both of the roms you suggested have insecure kernel. I would flash your nandroid backup and try again, or ruu and try again. It has to do with when your phone was built if firewater will or will not work. Ive seen at&t with 1.12 fresh out of the box not accept firewater.
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First of all you need stock kernel for firewater or sunshine to work. Both of the roms you suggested have insecure kernel. I would flash your nandroid backup and try again, or ruu and try again. It has to do with when your phone was built if firewater will or will not work. Ive seen at&t with 1.12 fresh out of the box not accept firewater.
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Those are some solid words and that right there is your answer. I hope you get it resolved. The way I look at it, $25 is a small fee to be on the safe side or you can have more issues and a lot of headache if firewater doesn't work and you have to buy sunshine.
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Those are some solid words and that right there is your answer. I hope you get it resolved. The way I look at it, $25 is a small fee to be on the safe side or you can have more issues and a lot of headache if firewater doesn't work and you have to buy sunshine.
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Well, I restored my stock nandroid (that was what I tried first. ) and finaly got it S-Offed with sunshine. yay! granted I forgot that the account that is linked to my paypal account only had about 10 bucks in it, so after the overdraft fee sunshine cost me around 60 bucks!
But oh well. Im now S-OFF, and got the 2.22.xxx firmware flashed and am now rocking 4.4.3 ROM Viper 2.0.1.
Yeah, turns out a ton of people had issues S-OFF, but the thing is, all of these people had stock (rooted).
(commenting just for others who may stumble upon this)
You need to install a custom kernel that has an insecure kernel, ElementalX is what i used and
it worked fine.
i4GS said:
Yeah, turns out a ton of people had issues S-OFF, but the thing is, all of these people had stock (rooted).
(commenting just for others who may stumble upon this)
You need to install a custom kernel that has an insecure kernel, ElementalX is what i used and
it worked fine.
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If firewater does not work then sunshine will work.
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manup456 said:
If firewater does not work then sunshine will work.
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Why would i waste 20$ on S-OFF, I'd rather go buy myself the Nexus 5 if i had to do that.
If a free option is available, keep trying it with different methods until you succeed or give up lol.
i4GS said:
Why would i waste 20$ on S-OFF, I'd rather go buy myself the Nexus 5 if i had to do that.
If a free option is available, keep trying it with different methods until you succeed or give up lol.
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If I got a nexus 5 I would be down grading and wouldn't do that for $25 dollars. I had one and its deff to me a downgrade but to each its own bud just trying to help.
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dont really want to make you feel bad or anything but i literally, just now, got my at&t htc one m8 s-off using firewater...
tttomdemaria said:
dont really want to make you feel bad or anything but i literally, just now, got my at&t htc one m8 s-off using firewater...
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Phone recently purchased? What software version, bootloader, etc.?
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Phone recently purchased? What software version, bootloader, etc.?
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Phone was purchased week of release. Its 4.4.4 though. Maybe when i did that ruu it reverted back? Idk. I just used the toolkit supplied on "theunlockr" rooted it using the instructions on htcdev. Then i used firewater through a cmd window through an adb kit i downloaded. Very simple. Once i got the most updated version of the adb drivers it took probably 3 minutes.
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If you or OP would like I could list all the steps and instructions in doing it.
Sunshine isn't working for me. I'm running ViperOne 2.5.0 with the stock kernel and it says "bad kernel" "we don't like your kernel". Tried with ElementalX as well. Same message.
tttomdemaria said:
Phone was purchased week of release. Its 4.4.4 though. Maybe when i did that ruu it reverted back?
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I don't think that is correct, there is no stock 4.4.4 for this device yet (with exception of GPE).
Also, its not possible to revert or "downgrade" by RUU with S-on.
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TheKnux said:
Sunshine isn't working for me. I'm running ViperOne 2.5.0 with the stock kernel and it says "bad kernel" "we don't like your kernel". Tried with ElementalX as well. Same message.
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Contrary to post #11, my understanding is that stock kernel works with s-off when custom does not. Although apparently, there is some inconsistancy as that person was able to s-off with custom kernel.
Try a stock ROM, and I've also seen it posted that Maximus ROM works with Sunshine.
redpoint73 said:
I don't think that is correct, there is no stock 4.4.4 for this device yet (with exception of GPE).
Also, its not possible to revert or "downgrade" by RUU with S-on.
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Contrary to post #11, my understanding is that stock kernel works with s-off when custom does not. Although apparently, there is some inconsistancy as that person was able to s-off with custom kernel.
Try a stock ROM, and I've also seen it posted that Maximum ROM works with Sunshine.
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Well I'm running ViperOne 2.5.0 (full rom) with the stock kernel and it gives me that message. When I was running 2.4.0 (full rom) with the incremental update it said the kernel was bad (elementalx) but said nothing about the rom.
Anyone know of any other roms or kernels that work with SunShine other than Maximum/Stock?
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So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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First of all you have missed a couple firmware updates, but since you are s-on you need to update using a RUU head to vipeRuu thread and follow the script instructions, then unlock again using htc dev, install twrp and then flash supersu and busy box, you will be s-on, unlocked and rooted on stock. Navigation doesn't work on some jelly bean roms on some phones, it just crashes, no fix as of today, use telenav, waze or scout. Good luck!
VipeRuu:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197909
Root Guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038123
jcruiser89 said:
So ill start by saying I've been scouring the internet all night and I'm confused as hell. I have had the Evo LTE since day one, rooted it the same day and have not updated it since. I am on S-On, 1.13.651.1, hboot 1.12 and have twrp 2.3.1.0. I want to update to the latest version, radios and everything, what is the best way to do this without bricking my phone and keeping root? The stock rom is fine for me I just need root.
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I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
bigdaddy619 said:
I would suggest using FacePalm to get your phone S-OFF
Then you can update your firmware/radios
There is no need to run an RUU unless you need to go back to stock reason being you don't really want to update your hboot
Any questions shoot me a PM
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OK, Thanks for the suggestions guys, ill try this tonight.
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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RobertBohannon said:
Lol why is anyone still S-on I just don't get it.
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Because you can root without s-off.
jcruiser89 said:
Because you can root without s-off.
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yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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RobertBohannon said:
yes you can root with out s-off but why not S-off of the ability is out there? S-off gives you unbridled access to your system for better of worse. Though you may be S-off you don't have to use it, but if you need it and don't have it then your screwed. Then you have to go through the entire process all over again. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. This thread is a perfect example. He wants to upgrade his radio not impossible with s-on but far more difficult. When I updated my radio I just flashed the .zip file like a rom. No need to rename files place them In the root directory yada yada yada. Just my opinion.
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By the way I'm not bagging you over it. Simply saying the phone came out in June last year S-off has been available since July the same year. A year later there are three versions that do the same thing. Good on you for realizing s-off needed to be obtained. Once you are s-off there is nothing that will keep you from truly manipulating your phone any way you desire.
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Yeah, i rooted the phone the day i got it, the only thing available at the time was s-on. Phone was/is running great, but i noticed i'm 4 updates behind and i have started seeing 4g in my area so i though it would be a good time to update the radios. Thanks for the suggestions guys, i got s-off now and going to try to update later.
So my dna is s-off and rooted via moonshine (purchased used already like this)
Twrp recovery is installed and the ota is failing!!
I have searched for hours on how to return back to stock and find great info and I still don't understand it (obviously a newb)..
One thing I have installed on my windows 7 pc is the dna toolkit (will this get me back to stock?).
Can anyone point me to the most basic route to achieve this?
My wife thinks I'm crazy with the amount of time I have invested in trying to resolve this issue
Thanks, Matt
This may be a whole lot quicker of a resolution...
But you need a completely stock rom and recovery to take an OTA.
An OTA will not apply in a custom recovery.
None of the stock roms previously posted were clean enugh to accept the OTA that I could find.
So you would either have to use the decrypted RUU, take 5 OTA's and eventually get where you are going.
Or use the link I provided which is a clean enough base that it will allow OTA's to flash if desired in the future.(with stock recovery loaded)
New DNA Owner, Need guidance
santod040 said:
This may be a whole lot quicker of a resolution...
But you need a completely stock rom and recovery to take an OTA.
An OTA will not apply in a custom recovery.
None of the stock roms previously posted were clean enugh to accept the OTA that I could find.
So you would either have to use the decrypted RUU, take 5 OTA's and eventually get where you are going.
Or use the link I provided which is a clean enough base that it will allow OTA's to flash if desired in the future.(with stock recovery loaded)
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I am a brand new DNA owner and not on Verizon so I can't get the OTA update. I plan to use it on ST via GSM. May I install your Rom above on a completely stock device that does not appear to be unlocked, s-off or rooted? And how would I go about doing that?
Version 4.1.1
Software number: 2.06.605.1 710RD
Kernel version:
3.4.10-ga02d2c6
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT
It may have been rooted at one time but I'm not sure since I bought it used. Thanks for any guidance on this.
franberry said:
I am a brand new DNA owner and not on Verizon so I can't get the OTA update. I plan to use it on ST via GSM. May I install your Rom above on a completely stock device that does not appear to be unlocked, s-off or rooted? And how would I go about doing that?
Version 4.1.1
Software number: 2.06.605.1 710RD
Kernel version:
3.4.10-ga02d2c6
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT
It may have been rooted at one time but I'm not sure since I bought it used. Thanks for any guidance on this.
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You can check if it's rooted with Root Checker from play store.
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bigmatt503 said:
So my dna is s-off and rooted via moonshine (purchased used already like this)
Twrp recovery is installed and the ota is failing!!
I have searched for hours on how to return back to stock and find great info and I still don't understand it (obviously a newb)..
One thing I have installed on my windows 7 pc is the dna toolkit (will this get me back to stock?).
Can anyone point me to the most basic route to achieve this?
My wife thinks I'm crazy with the amount of time I have invested in trying to resolve this issue
Thanks, Matt
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I would definitely use santod's rom, it's awesome , I was on it till yesterday, till I flashed his NuSenseONE
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You can check if it's rooted with Root Checker from play store.
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I would definitely use santod's rom, it's awesome , I was on it till yesterday, till I flashed his NuSenseONE
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Thanks. I just checked with Root Checker and I do not have root. So will Santod's rom provide root or is that a prerequisite to installing the rom?
franberry said:
Thanks. I just checked with Root Checker and I do not have root. So will Santod's rom provide root or is that a prerequisite to installing the rom?
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You have to have recovery installed so you can flash his rom, so yes, you need to root it first, use moonshine method, then install on your phone something like flash img gui or even twrp, then get the twrp img. and flash it to your phone. After twrp is installed(after reboot into normal phone) you can download his rom to your phone and flash it using twrp again, it'll reboot into recovery automatically and install the rom .
Are you still needing help. No offense to the other guy but what he said made no sense.
Message me if so and Ill link to with everything you need.
thayl0 said:
Are you still needing help. No offense to the other guy but what he said made no sense.
Message me if so and Ill link to with everything you need.
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Yes, I still need help. Thank You. I'll PM you now.
I am the op of this thread and here it is a month later and I decided not to take the Verizon Ota just for the fact that I like having full control of my device..
I am now running cyanogenMod 10.2 and all is well and battery life is great... The link santod posted works great.
Thanks santod
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bigmatt503 said:
I am the op of this thread and here it is a month later and I decided not to take the Verizon Ota just for the fact that I like having full control of my device..
I am now running cyanogenMod 10.2 and all is well and battery life is great... The link santod posted works great.
Thanks santod
Sent from my ROOTED HTC droid DNA using cyanogenMod 10.2
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You should try cm 11 it's the newest. It's based off the 4.4 kitkat
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need help
santod040 said:
This may be a whole lot quicker of a resolution...
But you need a completely stock rom and recovery to take an OTA.
An OTA will not apply in a custom recovery.
None of the stock roms previously posted were clean enugh to accept the OTA that I could find.
So you would either have to use the decrypted RUU, take 5 OTA's and eventually get where you are going.
Or use the link I provided which is a clean enough base that it will allow OTA's to flash if desired in the future.(with stock recovery loaded)
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i am completely new here i have droid dna unlocked tampered and S-ON its rooted and also TWRP recovery
i am on htc sense 4 i want sense 5 and android 4.2
help me
can i flash your rom
onkar0027 said:
i am completely new here i have droid dna unlocked tampered and S-ON its rooted and also TWRP recovery
i am on htc sense 4 i want sense 5 and android 4.2
help me
can i flash your rom
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You need s off
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Edited for accuracy:
For those happy folks finally moving to 4.4.2 (Verizon and Sprint most recently) please keep in mind that we do NOT yet have an ruu for 4.4.2. If you are S-ON you will NOT be able to save yourself using any 4.3 ruu if you have updated your hboot. Keep in mind an hboot can be flashed without any other part of an update so make sure you know what you are doing and what you have done to your device.
Just a public service announcement to hopefully bring people back to reality before they go modding their new 4.4.2 goodness.
Can't 4.4's hboot replace itself with the RUU's hboot,
(like usual 2 pass RUU install)?
Or did you mean for S-ON devices?
Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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S-off should download. Might have to test lol
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Aren't the s-off'ed and unlocked devices able to use their respective RUU's to downgrade? Example like myself I wen't from 1.11.605.4 official to the new 2.16.605.2 that if I ran in to a problem I could do the 0P3PIMG.zip from SD method or do the fastboot oem rebootRUU with the vzw.t6.0P3PIMG_1.11.605.4.zip and I was under the impression we could downgrade or upgrade as we see fit so long as we are s-off??? Isn't that how it's always been? I thought s-on users only really had to be careful since they could only upgrade due to main version issue and also not having a KitKat RUU now available if they took the update while s-on.... Some clarity would be great! Honestly though I thought the way I just worded it is how it's always been with HTC devices...
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Im sure some magic can be worked for those that are s-off and can flash non encrypted. S-on folks definitely have to watch out. Overall its just best that people think before they play.
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ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
Jiggity Janx said:
ALL of this discussion is why I started this thread!
It is important we get to the complete truth. IMO my OP stands valid until we have confirmation otherwise.
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Murrda said:
Yeah that's incorrect hehe... For s-on users that stands true... They need to be extremely careful until something becomes available, but speaking for the Verizon users that took the OTA and are s-off... Unlocked is NOT necessary, just as long as they are s-off they can actually downgrade back to stock 4.3 for whatever the reason may be.. i.e.: warranty, bad flash, etc etc... It's 100% always been this way for all HTC devices that are s-off... It's by far the greatest feature or perk of having an HTC device... If you don't believe me then grab the encrypted vzw.t6_1.11.605.4 RUU and run it, you will see you will have no issues downgrading. While s-on users if they attempted they would get the main version to low error, s-off bypasses that...
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
Vinchenzop said:
Last night, @waco2hot33 ran the RUU and went s-on to take the OTA...and was able to regain s-off, root, and unlocked via WeakSauce/firewater s-off...Here's how he did it
But, once you're back to s-off, and have root, no matter what hboot you have, you can run the commands from @scotty1223's thread found HERE to unlock the new hboot
End of discussion?
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Murrda said:
I did something similar but why did he s-on?? Def didn't have to do that... I got the OTA and it failed 2 times so I said F it and ran the encrypted RUU just to get back to a complete stock state in case it was a boot.img or something missing issue and I remained "s-off" and "unlocked", redownloaded the OTA after booting back up and the OTA then flashed perfectly fine with booting in to KitKat and still s-off and unlocked. Only thing I had to do was fastboot TWRP back and flashed the SuperSU v1.94 and I was straight!
Did he think he needed to be s-on to take the OTA?
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Noob moment? Tired? Acid flashback? Your guess is as good as mine, but he went s-on and was able to regain s-off via WeakSauce temp-root and firewater s-off with newest OTA/firmware. So...success? lol
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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Please read my post above yours. Waco went s-on, took the update and installed it, and was able to regain s-off via the link i posted above. Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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Murrda said:
I got what you are saying.. You are stating it is possible to root unlock and s-off official KitKat but what Jiggity Janx created the OP for was saying to everyone to be careful in case they soft bricked hard bricked boot looped or what have you that when on official KitKat there phone may be rendered unusable because there is no KitKat RUU.... What good is a rooted phone if you can't boot it? I was stating that if you are s-off and can at least boot to hboot that you are 100% safe and can run the Jelly Bean RUU....
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But yes that is indeed good to know though, thanks for the info! Good to know s-on or off we can work with KitKat!
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null. If you're s-off, you could likely use the 4.3 RUU and downgrade your hboot (i did this yesterday during a brain lapse after taking/applying the update).
So if you're looking if being s-off allows you to downgrade your hboot, then the answer is yes.
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Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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And that's a second confirmations
LOL..... Thank you!!
dottat said:
Verdict.....s-off allows full downgrade of everything via ruu. Firmware and hboot. Just tested myself.
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OP and or title should be corrected so it is not misleading to some looking for answers... Maybe I'll make a thread for users as reference for all the variants
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
dottat said:
I think the intent of the op was really meant for the users who are currently s-on and running KitKat. If they run into issues they likely won't be able to root and s-off and will be screwed as there currently isn't public KitKat ruu available.
Good discussion. Please don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore.
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Vinchenzop said:
Therefore, one COULD root the newest update whether they are s-on or s-off.
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I understand and agree, but if you're s-on, the likelyhood of you bricking your device is nearly null.
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IMO if you can root it you can f it up. So s-on users do have some risk and currently there is no fix for them on 4.4.2 where there was a fix for them on 4.3 (encrypted ruu).
Good to see that soff users should be good to use a lower version ruu to downgrade if needed.
I have updated and downgraded to the stock version OS and hboot. But I'm also S Off. I had to use the decrypted RUU file though....
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Murrda said:
What did that mean ~~~> Don't discuss the intent of the thread anymore
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Lol...I meant let's not lose sight of the warning here. Noobs will be confused.
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OTA 4.4.2 Available firmware is here downloading now!
http://www.verizonwireless.com/droiddnaupdate/
http://m-support.verizonwireless.com/support/system_update/droiddna.html
2 part update, first one is small ~5mb second one is 618mb
Spider210 said:
OTA 4.4.2 Available firmware is here downloading now!
http://www.verizonwireless.com/droiddnaupdate/
http://m-support.verizonwireless.com/support/system_update/droiddna.html
2 part update, first one is small ~5mb second one is 618mb
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can you share the two ota files?
Yep, confirmed here too. Had checked software update about 30 minutes ago and nothing. Then checked now and it gave some small prep update. That is installing now.
Completely stock here, never rooted or unlocked or anything. Because of that I think my update will be just fine
Tersanyus said:
Yep, confirmed here too. Had checked software update about 30 minutes ago and nothing. Then checked now and it gave some small prep update. That is installing now.
Completely stock here, never rooted or unlocked or anything. Because of that I think my update will be just fine
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You should have unlocked s-off cause the update says blocks rumrunner security off as a 'bug fix'
Tersanyus said:
Yep, confirmed here too. Had checked software update about 30 minutes ago and nothing. Then checked now and it gave some small prep update. That is installing now.
Completely stock here, never rooted or unlocked or anything. Because of that I think my update will be just fine
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goodman_east said:
can you share the two ota files?
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Already almost finished installing otherwise I would have grabbed them, i'm sure someone will be kind enough to grab them and upload them :good:
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You should have unlocked s-off cause the update says blocks rumrunner security off as a 'bug fix'
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He can be our guinea pig and see if firewater still works on the new update.
orangechoochoo said:
He can be our guinea pig and see if firewater still works on the new update.
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How would I install thus if I am unlocked anf s-off with twrp installed?
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I don't think I'm going to do anything to this phone. I know it's odd that someone on XDA doesn't root or unlock or anything like that. I actually learned a hard lesson with the DNA. When I got it in early 2013 I bricked it. It could have been hardware related too. The display did funky things. It was replaced under warranty.
I used the replacement for some time before I sold it off then moved on to other phones. Back in January I saw on for sale on Craigslist. I bought it for like $60 but it was a bit beat up. Small crack on the top right of the screen and scratches everywhere. Now my DNA is mostly a spare phone.
What I find funny is the DNA now has KitKat and my primary phone is a Verizon Note 3 and it doesn't yet have KitKat officially. I did take the "leak" of KitKat and it is great. That's as close to any hacking I have done in ages. Probably should not have taken that leak for the Note 3 but too late.
My DNA is still installing the update. May try rooting but would rather not brick this phone.
At least you need to be on the stock recovery and ROM, I'm not sure if being s-on is required.
Give it some time, someone will post the new radio, hboot, and rom.
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I don't think I'm going to do anything to this phone. I know it's odd that someone on XDA doesn't root or unlock or anything like that. I actually learned a hard lesson with the DNA. When I got it in early 2013 I bricked it. It could have been hardware related too. The display did funky things. It was replaced under warranty.
I used the replacement for some time before I sold it off then moved on to other phones. Back in January I saw on for sale on Craigslist. I bought it for like $60 but it was a bit beat up. Small crack on the top right of the screen and scratches everywhere. Now my DNA is mostly a spare phone.
What I find funny is the DNA now has KitKat and my primary phone is a Verizon Note 3 and it doesn't yet have KitKat officially. I did take the "leak" of KitKat and it is great. That's as close to any hacking I have done in ages. Probably should not have taken that leak for the Note 3 but too late.
My DNA is still installing the update. May try rooting but would rather not brick this phone.
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The leaked kk update for the Note3 looks friendly
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/an...e-ota-update-verizon-galaxy-note-3-again.html
I'm not on stock recovery. Perhaps I'll wait.
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The heck with it. I reflashed stock recovery using fastboot. I'll give it shot.
orangechoochoo said:
At least you need to be on the stock recovery and ROM, I'm not sure if being s-on is required.
Give it some time, someone will post the new radio, hboot, and rom.
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stock recoery
stock rom，you can root, but build.prop cannot be modified.
s-on+locked, or s-on+relocked, or s-off( locked, unlocked, or relocked will be ok)
your rom version must be 3.06.605.4
Anybody have the radios extracted for this yet? If you do, post them
Update installed. Besides what's mentioned in the links on previous thread... Zoe camera mode is there
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Spider210 said:
You should have unlocked s-off cause the update says blocks rumrunner security off as a 'bug fix'
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Can you post a link to the "bug fixes & change log" details? thanks
joshkoss said:
Update installed. Besides what's mentioned in the links on previous thread... Zoe camera mode is there
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Were you S-Off and rooted, with stock rom? and after the update did you remain rooted and s-off with no issues? if so what method did you use to get s-off?
This is a 2 part download, the initial one was about 30MB and it rebooted. Part 2 is 618MB.
Mine's downloading now but I'm at work so I can't capture the OTA unfortunately.
You have to manually initiate the update scan both times.
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Were you S-Off and rooted, with stock rom? and after the update did you remain rooted and s-off with no issues? if so what method did you use to get s-off?
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Was stock 3.0.6 previous.
No s off
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Was stock 3.0.6 previous.
No s off
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Finished:
Android 4.4.2
Sense 5.5
Software Number 4.09.605.1
HTC SDK API Level 5.69
PRI Version 4.66_002
PRL 15296
ERI 5
Kernel:
3.4.10-g6a3a21b
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT
Baseband Version
1.02.01.0207
Build Number
4.09.605.1 ck322791 release-keys
Was on stock 3.06, unlocked bootloader and s-off.
Update kept me unlocked and s-off.
Lost root during the update but I was able to flash TWRP 2.7.0.0. and re-install SuperSU without any issues.
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Stonent said:
Finished:
Android 4.4.2
Sense 5.5
Software Number 4.09.605.1
HTC SDK API Level 5.69
PRI Version 4.66_002
PRL 15296
ERI 5
Kernel:
3.4.10-g6a3a21b
[email protected] #1
SMP PREEMPT
Baseband Version
1.02.01.0207
Build Number
4.09.605.1 ck322791 release-keys
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Same, except my PRL is 15287
Can someone post update(s)? Radios? Hboot?
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I have a htc m8 on at&t. I've been thinking of rooting my phone. I do have a warranty on the phone and I don't wanna void that. Is there a guide on here (for super NOOBS like myself) on how to create a back up and how to root?
cjbart1009 said:
I have a htc m8 on at&t. I've been thinking of rooting my phone. I do have a warranty on the phone and I don't wanna void that. Is there a guide on here (for super NOOBS like myself) on how to create a back up and how to root?
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Indeed there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
but if you really dont feel comfortable with doing this stuff, by all means don't. Some things (S-off for instance, which is required to flash upgraded firmwares not specific to your carrier branded device) have a high potential to turn your new toy into a paperweight if done incorrectly. Just read up, follow the instructions to the letter, and come back here with questions. Most of the time someone will be nice enough to assist you
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Indeed there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
but if you really dont feel comfortable with doing this stuff, by all means don't. Some things (S-off for instance, which is required to flash upgraded firmwares not specific to your carrier branded device) have a high potential to turn your new toy into a paperweight if done incorrectly. Just read up, follow the instructions to the letter, and come back here with questions. Most of the time someone will be nice enough to assist you
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I do wanna root just so I can get rid of this app that's keeping my phone awake. I've read about the sunshine root. Some of the stuff I read is a bit confusing. On the website it says that the update won't require towelroot (is that the right term?) for me to be able to use sunshine. But in here it says that I need to root my device before using it.
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cjbart1009 said:
I do wanna root just so I can get rid of this app that's keeping my phone awake. I've read about the sunshine root. Some of the stuff I read is a bit confusing. On the website it says that the update won't require towelroot (is that the right term?) for me to be able to use sunshine. But in here it says that I need to root my device before using it.
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I personally nothing about Sunshine. I unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDev site when I got the phone (was shipped to me since AT&T couldnt sell it in the brick and mortar stores for the first month or something like that)
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I personally nothing about Sunshine. I unlocked my bootloader with the HTCDev site when I got the phone (was shipped to me since AT&T couldnt sell it in the brick and mortar stores for the first month or something like that)
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Just did the sunshine route. All I know is I'm unlocked and s-off. I do think that I have a temp root. What should I do next?
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cjbart1009 said:
Just did the sunshine route. All I know is I'm unlocked and s-off. I do think that I have a temp root. What should I do next?
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You need to slow down, as it seems that you are rushing ahead with very little understanding of what you are doing. I recommend any newcomer (even experienced HTC users) to this phone spend at least a couple hours reading and learning before doing any mods to the phone. If a total n00b to Android, root, etc. then more time should be taken to research and learn. Reading includes the sticky threads, basic guides, and also my Index thread has a lot of information organized: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Sunshine is an s-off method, not root.
If you unlocked the bootloader, all you need to root is flash SU/SuperSU or a rooted ROM. S-off is not required for root.
Backing up the stock ROM, recovery, etc. is not required for the AT&T version, as you can RUU back to stock.
Also, AT&T (directly through them, not HTC) will only void your warranty for physical or water damage; not for mods.
I read some more and I rooted my phone already. Thanks for the link
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cjbart1009 said:
I read some more and I rooted my phone already. Thanks for the link
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Redpoint is 100% correct. If this all seems foreign to you, or anyone else for that matter, research, research then research some more! Before I do ANYTHING that I haven't done in the past (hell I have flashed many firmwares and it STILL scares me), I do alot of reading and see if its something I really want to do, plus it will help prevent me from coming back and saying "Halp, my phone is a brick now!". Once I have a basic understanding to it, then I go on
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Redpoint is 100% correct. If this all seems foreign to you, or anyone else for that matter, research, research then research some more! Before I do ANYTHING that I haven't done in the past (hell I have flashed many firmwares and it STILL scares me), I do alot of reading and see if its something I really want to do, plus it will help prevent me from coming back and saying "Halp, my phone is a brick now!". Once I have a basic understanding to it, then I go on
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That's why I decided to root my phone because I've read enough to know the basics and I was successful. I'm reading on flashing custom Roms now and it seems fairly easy but I won't just flash a ROM without reading more about it. Thanks for the replies.
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cjbart1009 said:
That's why I decided to root my phone because I've read enough to know the basics and I was successful. I'm reading on flashing custom Roms now and it seems fairly easy but I won't just flash a ROM without reading more about it. Thanks for the replies.
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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That's what I've been doing. But I've been mostly just looking at what ROM I want. When I find the one I want then I'll start really reading about flashing Roms and everything related to it. So far I still love sense so I won't need to change it anytime soon.
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That's what I've been doing. But I've been mostly just looking at what ROM I want. When I find the one I want then I'll start really reading about flashing Roms and everything related to it. So far I still love sense so I won't need to change it anytime soon.
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ARHD is sense also!! Can ya tell where I'm pointing ya lol
Lol. I'll check it out. Thanks
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Tower1972 said:
ARHD is sense also!! Can ya tell where I'm pointing ya lol
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Just checked it out. How's your battery life on it?
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cjbart1009 said:
Just checked it out. How's your battery life on it?
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Decent actually. I do run ALOT of stuff all the time, plus texts,,videos...gps...so for what I all use on it, it works great!
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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Personally I use ARHD 10.2, Its as close to stock as any other, but I have been using Mikes roms since my M7. In order to use it without any of the annoying boot bugs etc, you will have to flash a new firmware but that is one I would recommend, but also read up on firmware flashing and the steps to do it properly
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Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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Is there another ROM you wanna suggest?
Wonders_Never_Cease said:
It is not closest to stock out there, it is closest to stock EURO build out correct, but not closest to AT&T stock out...just sayin
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dunno if its just EURO, but since ATT lags behind in updates, and Mike keeps his updated with whatever releases are out, its my preferred one to use
I like how all the bloat is removed, regardless if its a WWE or US based rom
There is a debloated ATT 4.4.3 build thats tailored to AT&T already in the AT&T section. International section is not only place ROMS are released these days...
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dunno if its just EURO, but since ATT lags behind in updates, and Mike keeps his updated with whatever releases are out, its my preferred one to use
I like how all the bloat is removed, regardless if its a WWE or US based rom
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Check the AT&T HTC One M8 section youll find one...)
cjbart1009 said:
Is there another ROM you wanna suggest?
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There is a debloated ATT 4.4.3 build thats tailored to AT&T already in the AT&T section. International section is not only place ROMS are released these days...
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Check the AT&T HTC One M8 section youll find one...)
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Better than ARHD?