I want something thin and fast and I love Android 5. But my brand new Nexus 9 has actually been sort of... well buggy.
I've noticed that it actually freezes up sometimes when browsing the Internet, and it just doesn't seem like the UI is very smooth, and apps sometimes don't run very well. The other day I saw a video of the Tab s 10.5 running a gamecube game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrXMpgJFYpc
whereas the nexus 9 cant handle it at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOKA62x7v4
How can it run so much better on the tab s? Would I be better of exchanging my nexus 9 for the tab s or even the venue pro 8 7000? I upgraded from my nexus 7 but it hasn't been much of an upgrade...
First of all have you updated to 5.0.1? If not, try that first. If you already have, try resetting it to see if that helps. If not, then you may have a lemon. If it's not too late, exchange it for another unit.
I know there will be many naysayers and other people with problematic Nexus 9 who just want to chime in but I personally never had any issues with mine.
1st of all where did you get that app? I cant find it on the play store so is it an emulator?
If it's an emulator then some aren't optimized for android 64 bit yet...
If it's a full android game (not from a console emulator) then again I would expect it's not optimized for our 64bit device yet.
The Nexus 9 is more than capable of playing games like this so I'm 99% sure you can blame the game and not the hardware for this buggy performance
Macmee said:
I want something thin and fast and I love Android 5. But my brand new Nexus 9 has actually been sort of... well buggy.
I've noticed that it actually freezes up sometimes when browsing the Internet, and it just doesn't seem like the UI is very smooth, and apps sometimes don't run very well. The other day I saw a video of the Tab s 10.5 running a gamecube game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrXMpgJFYpc
whereas the nexus 9 cant handle it at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOKA62x7v4
How can it run so much better on the tab s? Would I be better of exchanging my nexus 9 for the tab s or even the venue pro 8 7000? I upgraded from my nexus 7 but it hasn't been much of an upgrade...
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Read the YouTube description on that video. He's not playing an emulator on his tablet. He's running it on his PC and streaming to the tablet.
No current Android tablet emulates GameCube games that well with sound. That being said, the Nexus 9 beats the pants off Tab S 10.5 with the Exynos processor, and is also faster than my Note 4 with a Snapdragon processor.
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I'm after one of this tablets, the iconia w700 with an intel i3 offers much better performance at the cost of weight and size. The thing that keep me from the nexus 10 is the browsing experience, I want the full laptop browsing experience without comprimise, can the nexus 10 offer that? I was frustated with the ipad that I had that whenever I opened tabs on my browser and the device needed memory it destroyed the tab from memory, that was very annoying as I tend to open tab to read them after, does the nexus 10 do this also?
Many thanks.
If you want a full browser experience that also includes extensions/plugins, you may have a better time with a x86 tablet.
With Chrome (the stock browser), tabs do need reloaded when you go back to them. Not sure how AOSP or other browsers handle this.
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If you want a full browser experience that also includes extensions/plugins, you may have a better time with a x86 tablet.
With Chrome (the stock browser), tabs do need reloaded when you go back to them. Not sure how AOSP or other browsers handle this.
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Damn, that was what I feared, what about an atom x86 windows 8 tablet is it up to stuff for web browsing or are they as slow as netbooks.
Atom has definitely improved, but it's still no i7. I used a Vivo book Smart and it was really smooth. Try one out at a store.
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--Hello,
I'm after one of this tablets, the iconia w700 with an intel i3 offers much better performance at the cost of weight and size. The thing that keep me from the nexus 10 is the browsing experience, I want the full laptop browsing experience without comprimise, can the nexus 10 offer that? I was frustated with the ipad that I had that whenever I opened tabs on my browser and the device needed memory it destroyed the tab from memory, that was very annoying as I tend to open tab to read them after, does the nexus 10 do this also?
Many thanks.
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Your post sounds like I wrote it, I realized how important a rich browsing experience is to me so I started to look at windows tablets also. The Vivotab Smart has an excellent internet experience but I only tried internet explorer, however I must warn you the volume sucks. I have now purchased the HP Envy X2 from Staples for 499.00 + tax and will get the next Nexus 10 when it's released. Hopefully the next one won't have all issues. Oh, I was finally able to see the W700 in person and its just does not make a good tablet unless you will mostly have it on a stand, it's heavy and has very sharp edges. As long as you're not a big gamer the atoms are great for general use.
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Hello,
Simply as the title says, is the Nexus 10 worth it over the Nexus 7 besides the extra screen size (price not an issue)?
Thanks,
Crazysah
Yes
And the Nexus 7 will be getting a whole new model in 3 months. It will have a Snapdraon 600 processor, probably get an upgrade to 2GB of RAM like everything new does now days, and hopefully will also get a resolution bump. Once it gets this new model upgrade the choice between these two tablets might become harder.
My main reasons for liking the Nexus 10 more are:
- Rear-facing camera + flash
- Vibration
- Screen Resolution
- Specs
Imo, totally worth it The only downside that bothers me is portability, but meh.
The only thing that may concern me is how fast it runs while streaming and playing games and battery life on the Nexus 10.
Otherwise it looks to be the tablet for me definitely.
A real-world non-technical comparison:
My wife and daughter each have a Nexus 7, and they're both very envious of my Nexus 10 that I've had since last week.
They both like the bigger screen, and my wife commented that she likes the colours on my Nexus 10 better. Her Nexus 7 looks a bit washed-out when side-by-side with my Nexus 10. She also thinks it feels faster, but that's just her subjective view obviously.
As a Nexus 10 and 7 owner.. get the 10..
In my family we have two Nexus 10's and a Nexus 7. I was the one using the Nexus 7, with my wife having a Nexus 10 for months. I became envious of her Nexus 10 and got my own several days ago. My daughter uses the Nexus 7 and is in love with it. It's the perfect size for her. If i had to choose between them (and I just did), I'd get a Nexus 10 because of the screen. The Nexus 7's screen isn't bad necessarily but the 10's screen is really good. I love reading PDFs on it now, couldn't say that with the 7.
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I personally think that they are too different to simply ponder which one should i get. To me they both have very different uses due to their form factor.
My N10 is absolutely fantastic, one of the best uses of my money in a long long time, but that said, due to it's size, it is either for home use or for when i'm on a coach or sat in the car for an hour waiting to pick someone up. The N7 would not satisfy me in these situations, but with a N7 or similar small tablet, it could feasibly slip in a pocket, be taken to the shop with me (i use my N10 a lot as a cookbook) or just generally out and about without having to consider lugging an 11" device around, i'm not the type to have a backpack or such, it's pockets or nothing.
as such, i love my N10, but am also considering selling an old computer that's not doing anything and using some of the money to buy a smaller device to complement my N10, just gotta decide which smaller device to consider. I do rather like the notion of a good stylus.
So yes, for me it's a question on usage, not which is better based on technical spec.
I think the 10 might just suit me better. Two questions:
1. How is the battery life?
2. How is streaming videos from a web browser?
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I think the 10 might just suit me better. Two questions:
1. How is the battery life?
2. How is streaming videos from a web browser?
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Battery life seems to vary from user to user, 8-9 hours being normal it seems. Some seem to only get 4-5, not sure what they do with their tablet, while some using different roms are getting 10+ without an issue. I've never tested mine although i watched an HD copy of the avengers on a coach, using headphones, and wifi off, and i was at 76% battery life about 2 and a half hours later, so good enough for me I played a game the other day for the first time, Arcane Legends, and while i didn't play for very long, it seemed that my battery was dropping at an alarming rate, as in mere hours of play time before running out of juice.
As to streaming, hit and miss. As you know, there is no longer any proper flash support. I've found most sites do not work for me, however this might be fixable through a different browser but i have not tried as the youtube app is all i need, anything streamed will be done on my computer.
No Android device will officially support flash anymore, so both the Nexus 7 and 10 fall into the same category here as "hit and miss" with finding a stable web browser than has flash integrated into it.
Nexus 10 for me but nexus 7 is definetly easier to carry around. But that is not even a factor for me.
It's basically if you want to carry it with you all the time vs if you want to use it in more stationary way. Or have very weak hands that can't hold it for long.
Can someone check if firstrowsports.eu works? That's what I most care about. Check if you can view any matches.
Couldn't seem to watch anything using chrome browser just now.
Ah damn. Maybe I can use OnLive Desktop like I did for the iPad.
You need to root and flash AOKP pub... it comes with the stock browser... Then go to Google and look up adobe flash hack and boom... everything streams
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You need to root and flash AOKP pub... it comes with the stock browser... Then go to Google and look up adobe flash hack and boom... everything streams
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You don't need root to flash a custom ROM, nor do you need that particular ROM either.
You need at the very least, a custom recovery. TWRP and CWM are the only options in this regard. Next, you can either:
- Install AOSP's browser on stock ROM
- Install a custom ROM that has AOSP's browser
And there's plenty of custom ROM's that include AOSP's browser. Next, you'll need to grab the legitimate flash player from Adobe's archive site for ICS, install it, and bam, done. No idea what that flash hack is you mention...
That's just the Keywords I remember putting into Google and the flash thing was like the third page
Quick question before I go out and buy this tomorrow...
Can the Nexus 10 store and play video files? .avi? .mkv? Or music files? .mp3? .flac?
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Quick question before I go out and buy this tomorrow...
Can the Nexus 10 store and play video files? .avi? .mkv? Or music files? .mp3? .flac?
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The Nexus 10 is a little limited. It handles MP4, and M4V fine but a no go on MKV. It'll play but jerky and stutters. It also has played some WMAs without issue. As for audio I am not sure, of course mp3 is fine and I think flac works as well
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I posted this in the Gpad 8.3 thread but not everyone there will have a nexus 10 so i figured id better hands on experience here.
I'm debating a gpad 8.3 or a nexus 10.
Long as the screen size is greater then 8 inches (hence the two options im ok).
I was wondering if anyone had/has both and could tell me about performance.
Specifically the snapdragon 600 vs the exynos of the nexus 10. Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez.
I can get a used good nexus 10 on eBay for the same price as the gpad and trying to decide which.
I only do light / moderate gaming. My primary purpose will be video watching (thinking front speakers will be great for it), comic and ebook reading, surfing web, etc..
I've used both for several hours, but I own the Nexus 10. The Nexus 10 seems quite a bit faster doing normal activities, but the LG was 4.2.2 LG compared to my 4.4.2 with pure Android.
That being said, the LG is about one half the weight and thinner with not quite high end camera of the Nexus 10 although I never take pics with my tablet except to look at how good or bad they are. Both are stomped camera wise by my Nokia 920.
I like them both and might buy a LG 8.3, but really they are quite a bit different.
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Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez.
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Where'd you read/hear that? Amazing!
guardianali said:
Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez.
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I watch HD videos I copied to internal storage on my N10 and I never seen any stuttering. I watch Hulu with some episodes in HD and no stuttering. I've had no performance issues and its crashed once in the 4 weeks I've had it. I'm on stock 4.4.2 with Franco kernel.
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I only do light / moderate gaming. My primary purpose will be video watching (thinking front speakers will be great for it), comic and ebook reading, surfing web, etc..
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Very similar to my needs, the primary advantage the N10 has it is just plain easier on the eyes on a 10". I also do things like mine on the BBC TV streaming whilst I work on a laptop and the forward speakers are wonderful. For me the biggest weakness of N10 is obvious - its lack of pocketability, something like my N7 does that better, I imagine gpad would be somewhere in the middle. If I were buying new now (I had the N7 2012 first then the N10) I'd go with a used N10 and a new N7 and grab whichever for the day, which is primarily N10 when stationary and N7 when moving, you can use stickmount with both stuff it with videos. I bluetooth tether to my android phone and bluetooth fast enough for non-HD type streaming.
I know you said they are the same cost roughly (new gpad vs used N10) but probably if you bought and sold that gpad you'd be more out of pocket than if you bought and sold the N10 as new-to-used is quite a drop vs used-to-used tends to be less so.... on a per-day of ownership basis you're probably going to find it cheaper with a used N10. Good luck whichever you go for there's always some risk with any purchase whether new or used.
Well I think the lag thing has been fixed for a long time but the stigma has kind of stuck with the device
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Well I think the lag thing has been fixed for a long time but the stigma has kind of stuck with the device
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I did flash stock of 4.2.2. 4.3, 4.4 4.4.1 4.4.2 doing no "backup and restore" so its pure vanilla each time and did the most performance heavy stuff I frequently use. 4.4.2 is the fastest and most stable (others may find different conclusions). Don't do OTA and don't do any Google backup/restore they cause issues. The fact that OTA leaves legacy performance and stability issues is the most worrying because most people do stock and most people do OTA so they're holding in their hands something slower than if they did an ADB flash stock and writing opinions which aren't fair.
My N10 is faster than my N7 2012, my N4 is faster than both but that's because N4 has less than quarter the number of pixels than N10.
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Specifically the snapdragon 600 vs the exynos of the nexus 10. Ive heard the Nexus 10 having bad stuttering as the cpu/gpu cant handle the screen rez. .
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I think you're asking the wrong question there. I'd focus on which size is best for you. The extra 2+ inches makes them very different devices.
If you sit with the tablet on your lap and type with one hand, the Nexus 10 is pretty good. But if you prefer to lie down and hold it like a book and type with your thumbs, an 8" tablet is a much better choice. I returned my Nexus 10 and moved to 8" tablets for this reason. Same for watching movies lying down. Your arms get tired eventually.
However I do hate non-front-facing speakers. That does make the 10 stand out for movie watching. And if you're going to set it on a table or your lap, the bigger screen is better.
I got a iPad mini 2 and I love it but for gaming its quite limit ( nvidia stream and ps4 stream ) so I wanted to switch to android world. For few months ago I saw a pretty good deal from best buy $229 Samsung tab pro 10.1 so I put my trigger. After got it nightmare start since the Samsung app , after i flash the cm rom turn better! But the problem is it just not feel right for me it will lag and crash some time and the battery can last only half day for some game steam and web surf. So I start to search other one have clean android rom . I was focus on nexus 9 nvidia shield and Sony z3
But i cant try them in local store except nexus 9. Here is my question which tablet you guys suggest?
bTW iOS is boring compare to android !!!
Huh. The TabPro is actually one of the most powerful tablets on the market, depending on which of the two versions you got.
The LTE edition with Snapdragon 800+Adreno combination can handle any game easily, with power to spare. Especially on a customROM.
The Exynos+Mali, on the other hand.... Well, the WiFi edition is cheaper for a reason. That's the IntelHD of the Mobile market.
Yes I got thr WiFi ver and 2GB ram ... so whivh u suggest ?
Im looking for a tablet to replace my laptop and nexus 7 (2012)
My work load will be videos (On occasions) youtube, some light gaming, word processing (With keyboard) web browsing, spotify.
I am a student so it will be for work mostly with it all backed up to google cloud, for films I will OTG them over to the device so I don't use onboard storage.
I was looking at the Tab S 8.4 but I love Nexus and been very up to date.
So what is the battery life like for the Nexus 9 under a medium work load using office stuff, when I am gaming I will be near a plug.
So should I get a Nexus 9 or the Tab S?
Many thanks!
I only used Word on my N9 for a short time, but it works okay. Many 365/2010 features are absent on the Android version, so I'm not sure if it would replace your laptop usage. With my light usage 8hrs was the max I ever saw, when using it frequently 5-6.5hrs of SOT was typical. One thing you should consider is the battery life of your current laptop, as well as compatibility with whatever programs.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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My usage for word is light, using google docs mostly and the battery life on my laptop on light use is at best 4 hours so nothing amazing I never feel truly portable
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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I would go with a surface pro 3 instead of a nexus 9. I own both.
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Out of my price range im affaid
Amazon UK doing the 16GB version for £199 today click here
I would definitely recommend getting a Nexus 9. However, something to keep in mind is that it was released about 8 months ago and the two previous Nexus tablets, namely Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 7 (2013) were released about 1 year apart. This means that there may be a new Nexus tablet in about 4 months. Of course, Nexus 9 was released 4 months "late" so if Google does that again you may have at most 8 months, so Nexus 9 has already reached its half-life.
Whether you care about this or not is your choice, but it's something to keep in mind. I personally never buy or recommend anyone to buy a product that's reached its half-life.
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Well the N9 will be able to last more than that for word.
A Surface is more expensive AND larger than a N9, don't think he wants such a device. The experience of using either as a tablet differs too, since Android is a lot more user friendly in that regard.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
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Out of my price range im affaid
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You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I tend to end up rooting my devices within 12 months so cyanogen mod should keep me floating for a few years, Google updates will do fine for a while, but I was also recently looking at the nvidia shield while it is cheaper, it also has as card support, hdmi and the other game things, so what would be supporting argument for n9, I love the nexus line but nvidia just seems to offer a bit more, but I love the Denver processor in the n9 also the screen and Google support
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performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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He's looking to replace his tablet and laptop. I think everybody knows how to use a windows computer.
You can find a decent surface pro for $400 or so. A Nexus 9 will run $300.
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I never said he couldn't use Windows - just that the experience of each device differs, which is true. Both devices have been operated by me, and I wouldn't suggest each to the same person, nor do I encourage iPad users to buy a Surface either.
8" Android tablet =/= 12" x86 Hybrid
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Surface pro also has a 10" device. A Nexus is far from replacing a laptop, but a surface pro can be used as a tablet, computer, note taking device (student), and run Android apps (bluestacks, myandy, etc..). I own a Nexus 9 and only use it for entertainment. I own a surface pro 3 (12 inch), and I do all of my school work on it. I write and record my lecture notes, highlight keypoints on pdf and other type of files, type (surface keyboard) documents on Google drive, use split screen to watch YouTube videos while I finish a document, and save my videos/pictures on a microsd card. The surface pro is such an amazing and productive device for a student.
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performance and battery life are pretty poor for such a beast of a device. i haven't tried M, so i can't say if it'll help. spend $200 on a lenovo tab 2 a10-70. they're not top of the line but seem to be good bang-for-the-buck devices. the ONLY reason why i haven't gotten one for myself is b/c they don't make the multiangle slim folio cases for it yet. i won't buy a device that doesn't have one made for it, lol.
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For which device?
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For which device?
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if you're referring to the one i won't buy b/c i can't find a case... it's the lenovo tab 2. i've got the nexus 9 with a slim folio case.
the lackluster performance and battery life are the nexus 9 remarks. 5.1.1 did address the ramping up of the gpu and cpu to full speed when touching the screen, but it's still ramping up pretty high compaired to my galaxy note 10.1 2014. you'd figure being a more powerful device wouldn't have to draw so much power when interacting with it. using a custom rom and tuning the cpu and gpu down does yield better battery life, but at the cost of performance - it starts stuttering. i haven't tried undervolting or even checking if that was an option with the rom i'm using. that way i can keep the performance without sacrificing battery life. as it is, i get 7-8hours of use depending on how much i touch it. reading a book or watching a video can get me almost 10hours since i don't touch it much while doing those tasks.
just to clarify, the performance isn't from the cpu or gpu, but with the memory management. it just doesn't seem to get it right... i get screen redraws when i change tabs while browsing, i have to use a memory killer in order to not have it lock up daily... it's issues i had when i used a device with only 512MB of ram.
So would you say get the shield tablet over nexus 9
The shield is powerful but has issues of its own. While it has a mSD slot, you have to jump through hoops to get it to barely work. Apps cannot write to it directly. Nvidia is not very good yet at getting the basic features working properly. P.S. I have the shield tab.