Hey guys,
Im a beginner at running. Deceied to do half a marathon this year. To keep track of my tranings. Ive deceied to buy a tracker. Amazfit bip sounds like a bargain with the 65$ price. So I decided to ask experslts from my favorite forum Do you know if Amazfit bip is accurate ? I live in a mountain area. Lots of hills. Does it calculate the altitudes differences correctly? Thanks in advance.
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Since there are no replies just my two cents for the Amazfit Pace (FW 1.3.6d stockified).
The altitude sensor seems not that accurate, the first running meters are allways wrong. But if I wait another 20s before I start the exercise the altitude is much better. There is a possibility to adapt the altitude later automatically, probably using some online altitude map (in the Anrdoid Smartphone App). I don't have the opportunity to calibrate the altitude sensor manually.
I've been using the Bip for a few months now and I'd say the GPS accuracy for elevation is fairly decent after the first 30 seconds or so of activity (once it acquires a better GPS lock). While I haven't used the Bip on any trail runs, I have used it to track my snow skiing and hiking in the mountains. Again, it does a fairly decent job tracking elevation while skiing or hiking, which I view using the MiFit app. If you're looking for a mostly simplistic elevation gain/loss during your runs in the mountains, my opinion is that the Bip will work for you.
the biggest issue i can see with the Bip for runners is that it doesn't have a tempo/pace per km or mile. This is a common data field that is used by runners to judge race or training pace. Not only that but the data fields don't appear to be customizable.
Regarding your altitude question, if you use Strava you can have it automatically fix altitude data for you when you upload an activity.
Thanks everyone! Really appreciate your inputs! @fras23 well I would have never thought that such a simple and must have option is not there. Maybe they will fix the pace in the future firmwares.
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Thanks everyone! Really appreciate your inputs! @fras23 well I would have never thought that such a simple and must have option is not there. Maybe they will fix the pace in the future firmwares.
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The bip has pace in minute per km/mile, so there is such an option. This is in the default outdoor running tracking mode. In very congested human areas the instantaneous pace tends to be off by a bit. But the overall average pace is accurate. Pressing the physical button once in the running mode shows the average pace for the whole distance ran so far. So what he said is not true.
ablueleaf said:
The bip has pace in minute per km/mile, so there is such an option. This is in the default outdoor running tracking mode. In very congested human areas the instantaneous pace tends to be off by a bit. But the overall average pace is accurate. Pressing the physical button once in the running mode shows the average pace for the whole distance ran so far. So what he said is not true.
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Thanks man. Since I decided not to buy bip for that reason. Do you use it for jogging or running? Maybe you can bring few more insights?
Oskar.Kim said:
Thanks man. Since I decided not to buy bip for that reason. Do you use it for jogging or running? Maybe you can bring few more insights?
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So I have done one run so far, 23.2km as tracked on strava on my mobile phone. I timed the same run using the bip's outdoor running tracking mode. The instantaneous pace shown on the bip was not very accurate at times(maybe 30% of the entire time, it was showing a slower pace). For eg I was clocking a pace of about 6 mins/km on the strava and maintained it more or less consistently(maybe dropping half a min/km max). It would show paces of 8min/km and deviate, which kind of sucks. During the run itself, the distance on the bip was lagging behind by about 0.3km. I bought the bip to try and replace my phone for gps tracking but I guess you get what you pay for.
For a half/full marathoner, the most important aspect during the run is knowing your current race pace as it allows you to gauge the amount of effort you have to maintain. Its safe to say that I wouldn't depend solely on the bip for a marathon as its not accurate all the time. Tracking using the strava app on a mobile phone gives a consistent pace and is what I would do. I would still wear the bip maybe to get some giggles from seeing my heartrate during the run. You can see the heartrate column below;there is an indepth graph displayed in further information about the run.
The screenshots attached show the runs in strava. I exported the tracked run using notify and fitness into strava. The mobile strava one is the 23.2km one and the other is the bip run.
The bip run shows heartbeat rate in strava as well.
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So even though there's a post about this app in the international S4 Themes and Apps section, I decided to make a new one here with my findings on the Weather Station app that utilizes the thermometer, barometer, and hygrometer sensors found in the S4. I was showing off the device the other day and remembered that it had those sensors, so I quickly searched for this app, downloaded it, and had to keep reminding the people I was with that this wasn't network data it was polling, it was actual sensor data found right from the device! Pretty cool stuff.... it gets better though!
I have a pretty awesome desktop weather station that displays indoor and outdoor temp and relative humidity, and decided to compare findings - obviously, I'm not trying to claim that either one is 100% accurate, just wanted to compare between the two. Here are my results:
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If you're wondering, yes, I live in FL, and yes, outdoor RH is always crazy high! By the way.... How crazy is it that my PHONE has more sensors than this singular purpose desktop weather station? If you're looking for the best place to get this desktop weather station I have, try Sam's Club.
I got on the play store and when I searched bweather station it brought up several different ones. What developer is it?
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I got on the play store and when I searched bweather station it brought up several different ones. What developer is it?
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It is linked in my post, but the developer is A-MINOR
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Got it. I like it alot. Especially because it dosent use data to check the temp.
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Sweet app thanks!
I agree ... good find.
How come Samsung didn't include an app like this by default? Or am I missing it?
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I agree ... good find.
How come Samsung didn't include an app like this by default? Or am I missing it?
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Look in S Health under Health Board and select Comfort Level
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Look in S Health under Health Board and select Comfort Level
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Hmm .. thanks! Wouldn't have thought to look in there.
DevilDogAK said:
Look in S Health under Health Board and select Comfort Level
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YIKES, that's a long way to go just to get 2 of the 3 sensors displayed on a pretty looking screen! Definitely prefer this app over that, but thanks, didn't notice that before while using S Health!
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So even though there's a post about this app in the international S4 Themes and Apps section, I decided to make a new one here with my findings on the Weather Station app that utilizes the thermometer, barometer, and hygrometer sensors found in the S4.
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I didn't even realize I posted in the international S4 forum... I thought it was just the general forum for the S4. The app isn't carrier specific so I guess that's the place to have it? Anyways thank you for your insightful post!
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YIKES, that's a long way to go just to get 2 of the 3 sensors displayed on a pretty looking screen! Definitely prefer this app over that, but thanks, didn't notice that before while using S Health!
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Is the temp the ambient air temp or the device temp? Mine is always hovering around 81-82 degrees and I know the room I'm in is a lot less than that.
I also checked on the S-Health app and it shows the same temp. Is there anyway to calibrate it? It just seems a bit off.
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Is the temp the ambient air temp or the device temp? Mine is always hovering around 81-82 degrees and I know the room I'm in is a lot less than that.
I also checked on the S-Health app and it shows the same temp. Is there anyway to calibrate it? It just seems a bit off.
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It is "ambient temperature," used it quotes because if it's in your pocket or your hands for long, the temp may be off for those reasons.... But as you see from my "test," it is pretty accurate all things considered!
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There's also WeatherSignal (by opensignal.com) in the Play Store, with Temp, Pressure, Humidity, Light level, Acceleration and Magnetic Flux.
Hi Guys,
lot of users complain on draining battery by Amazfit Pace ... but no one check hardware. Today I opened my watch and I found probably root cause of problem. Reset hole is not enough tight and semiconductors (rest switch and probably pressure sensor) are totally corroded as on photo. I registered support ticket in Xiaomi and I',m waiting for replay. Problem is really really serious because your sweat can damage watch ...
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Of course during disassembling I damaged one of part as below. How can I repair it ?
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Good pics. But the watch does not have a reset switch: on whole is for the mic and the other for the barometer. And I think you cannot repair a broken flat cable, only replace it (or the whole part if you cannot remove only the cable).
Considering it's only a 4-wire flat cable, you could try scraping the plastic insulation off and soldering onto it. Probably a tedious job, but if it saves the watch...
Hi Guys,
one more time here So, I bought amazfit with broken battery and I replaced barometer sensor and mic module ... battery life back to normal operation mode - 4 - 5 days
Best,
Mateusz
Hi
Could you please tell us how to open the watch? it seems very fit and hard to disassemble.
And if the mic and barometer sensor will be removed, does the watch works or they must be replaced?
I have a non working air pressure sensor from time to time. It shows only a static value. Sometimes it works again. But it seems that the reason could be the corrosion as mentioned.
@SpecPC On which way did you contact Huami (email, forum, ...)?
Such flex can be easily repaired by scraping off the insulation and soldering some copper wire strands on top.
So it seems it is really not waterproof? I guess I should glue all of holes, since I don't have a use for mic and barometer. And pulse reader.
Why do companies add fitness features that barely work, instead of focusing on proper notification and readability handling, is above me. I don't know of a single device that does notifications properly. Pebble was a step in right direction, but pebble no more.
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Such flex can be easily repaired by scraping off the insulation and soldering some copper wire strands on top.
So it seems it is really not waterproof? I guess I should glue all of holes, since I don't have a use for mic and barometer. And pulse reader.
Why do companies add fitness features that barely work, instead of focusing on proper notification and readability handling, is above me. I don't know of a single device that does notifications properly. Pebble was a step in right direction, but pebble no more.
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The pace is not waterproof and never claimed to be, it's water resistant (splashes, sweat etc). The stratos is waterproof, and doesn't have a microphone to allow for that
is our amazfit stratos got mic?
leongsem said:
is our amazfit stratos got mic?
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No, it's one reason it's waterproof while Pace isn't.
what if u remove mic and try to turn on amazfit? is it still be working?
well , i took a night ride and it was raining , after that i noticed that the battery was draining very fast . i took the watch and i put it in a bowl full of rice and put the watch inside the bowl . i let it there one night , i don't know if i have the same battery usage as new but definetly has improved .try it
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Hi Guys,
lot of users complain on draining battery by Amazfit Pace ... but no one check hardware. Today I opened my watch and I found probably root cause of problem. Reset hole is not enough tight and semiconductors (rest switch and probably pressure sensor) are totally corroded as on photo. I registered support ticket in Xiaomi and I',m waiting for replay. Problem is really really serious because your sweat can damage watch ...
Of course during disassembling I damaged one of part as below. How can I repair it ?
Best,
Matt
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Hey Matt
Could you tell me how have you opened the watch? I mean what temperature/how long with hot air gun? Can it be hairdrayer insted ?
pierre.riviere said:
Hey Matt
Could you tell me how have you opened the watch? I mean what temperature/how long with hot air gun? Can it be hairdrayer insted ?
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Thats my question too, I tried to open the watch but it is too fit and I couldn't do it even with a heater.
Unfortunately no one answered how to do it without damaging the watch.
Sadegh said:
Thats my question too, I tried to open the watch but it is too fit and I couldn't do it even with a heater.
Unfortunately no one answered how to do it without damaging the watch.
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I have the same experience. I tried with hair dryer for 5 minutes and then attacking with special toolkit for opening smartphones - like a really thin and sharp triangle to play on gitar. No luck unfortunately. I think I will wait some time and try once again with much more power and harm... But I think I can damage it or at least I will downgrade it from IP67 down to not water ressistant at all.
I opened mine with 2 minutes hair dryer and a knife.
I disconnect the part near the hole and did a factory resert and the clock stopped drain the battery.
the compass which was already broken disappeared from the menu.
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Hi Guys,
one more time here So, I bought amazfit with broken battery and I replaced barometer sensor and mic module ... battery life back to normal operation mode - 4 - 5 days
Best,
Mateusz
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Hello! Where I can buy a barometer sensor and mic module??
I have this problem...the watch with mic and barometer sensor module drain batery in one day.
If I remove this module the watch works normaly (dont drain battery) but dont measure altimetry in activities.
Where I can buy this module??
passosk58 said:
I have this problem...the watch with mic and barometer sensor module drain batery in one day.
If I remove this module the watch works normaly (dont drain battery) but dont measure altimetry in activities.
Where I can buy this module??
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try the technical assistance Xiaomi of your country, in Portugal the cost of this part is 20 dolares, more postage.
SpecPC said:
Hi Guys,
one more time here So, I bought amazfit with broken battery and I replaced barometer sensor and mic module ... battery life back to normal operation mode - 4 - 5 days
Best,
Mateusz
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try the technical assistance Xiaomi of your country, in Portugal the cost of this part is 20 dolares, more postage.
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Where I can buy?? - Xiaomi dont have technical assistance in Portugal
Hi,
Since last update, stats while doing elliptical are now quite good and compare more or less with what my Schwinn elliptical give me.
On Sunday, I did my first outdoor cycling with my Pace. And results are way off. I rode 24 km in 58 minutes and the Pace gave me only 328 calories burned, compared to over 700 with my android Road Bike Pro app. And my effort was quite intense all over, and the Pace only gave me an average heart rate of 79 and max of 99. It's silly. While doing elliptical, it goes to 170.
Anyone has a similar experience while cycling?
metaleloi666 said:
Hi,
Since last update, stats while doing elliptical are now quite good and compare more or less with what my Schwinn elliptical give me.
On Sunday, I did my first outdoor cycling with my Pace. And results are way off. I rode 24 km in 58 minutes and the Pace gave me only 328 calories burned, compared to over 700 with my android Road Bike Pro app. And my effort was quite intense all over, and the Pace only gave me an average heart rate of 79 and max of 99. It's silly. While doing elliptical, it goes to 170.
Anyone has a similar experience while cycling?
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First of all, I really don't trust the calories calculation. This is the 3rd device I have had which "calculates" calories (an old watch, a Garmin with GPS and chest band, now the Pace). The only one which gives for me a reasonable value is the Garmin.
I have used the Pace in parallel with my Garmin plus chestband a couple of times. Surprisingly the heartrate was within a beat of the Garmin, which surprised me. I must admit I didn't go anaerobic, I was between 60 and 135 bpm, but was surprised by the correlation. Taking the heartbeat off the wrist and getting it right is not easy.
GPS tracking was good, apart from right at the end when I stopped recording, the Pace decided I was about 500m away and 50m lower than my starting point, which wrecked all the accumulated climb metrics.
My conclusion is that it's generally good, but not precise all the time. So we'll have outliers but they should be buried in the mass of other observations. It just can't be as good/reliable as a Garmin for example, which is why the Pace costs what it costs - but if you're looking at trends as opposed to a particular event, it will give good KPIs
I'm having problens with heart rate on outdoor cycling too. A few weeks ago my avarage heart rate was around 150-160, now it's only 90.
marcelopvix said:
I'm having problens with heart rate on outdoor cycling too. A few weeks ago my avarage heart rate was around 150-160, now it's only 90.
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Well, when I posted heart rate had just been completely wrong. Then, I did another ride last Saturday and it was quite spot on, around 130-150. Really weird. Calories were better too, 920 for a 67-min/25 km ride.
My cycling of the day and the heart rate during the exercise. Seems in the first half of the activity I had the issue and then it normalized.
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Also having the same problem with my Stratos. Since last update.
Hi, I'm new to xda. This place has been fantastic and I'm really enjoying Android on my Gear S.
I've had the watch now for a few months and it gets through the day fine. Some interesting thing I noticed the other day was I left the watch on my desk from 8am till 8pm and only 50% of the battery was used. Usually the battery runs out after 12-13 hours. I'm wondering what it could be that's using up more power just by being on my wrist throughout the day? I have locations switched off but perhaps the pedometer or something making the watch work harder? Maybe something could be disabled so that only 50% of the battery is used in 12 hours?
Also, I've been toying with the idea of putting a higher mah battery in the watch. Has anyone attempted this?
Again, really enjoying this forum. It's been really fun tinkering away with my Gear S.
Thanks!
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Hi , I am new too..
You can try something new...
Samsung Galaxy Watch Active 2
May be you feel better...More about the watch
Not really my cup of tea, but thanks for the suggestion.
I wonder what the start screen is because it looks nice, black background and cool icons. As for the battery, you can't help it, these watches were adapted to a system other than android
I've had my Gear S for six years.........every now and then the watch would have severe battery drain..............not sure what causes it, usually I power off-and-on a couple of times and it goes away. I did get a message in December that the watch would not work with 2021 Samsung phones. I'm planning to get the S21 Ultra soon so I went ahead and got the Active 2 from Swappa.com. I wanted a watch with a speaker and newer...........really pleased. I do miss the shape/size of the Gear S.
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I wonder what the start screen is because it looks nice, black background and cool icons. As for the battery, you can't help it, these watches were adapted to a system other than android
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I'm using BIG Launcher with the BL holo theme along with Android. I find it makes texting much easier than the stock android text messanger.
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I've had my Gear S for six years.........every now and then the watch would have severe battery drain..............not sure what causes it, usually I power off-and-on a couple of times and it goes away. I did get a message in December that the watch would not work with 2021 Samsung phones. I'm planning to get the S21 Ultra soon so I went ahead and got the Active 2 from Swappa.com. I wanted a watch with a speaker and newer...........really pleased. I do miss the shape/size of the Gear S.
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It's the shape and size that drew me to the Sm-r750. I really enjoy wearing it and the user experience with Android. My only beef is the battery life!
AlexFungVFX said:
can u please provide me with emmc full dump if u can ? my watch is dead and i couldn't find any help from someone for i think a year now , even samsung technical services wouldn't help
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I can get about 12-15hrs if I turn off all connections and keep the brightness down (mine isn't a 3G Gear S). Running stock however....
Still the best future-looking watch IMHO. I get questions and comments about it all the time.
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Using an audio analyzer you can always see but obviously not hear these proportionately spaced audio spikes coming from the V60. It can also be measured using another device by bringing it closer to the V60. I'm attaching a couple of screenshots that show what I mean.
I've read that the second screen is wireless and about wireless payment or charging functions that could be playing a part in this.. I'm really not sure so I decided to ask if anyone else sees the same thing. It's the first time I've encountered this on any device so I'm pretty curious.
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What format is the output ie bt, 24 bit toshlink?
With stereo speakers in a room you could hear that. With closed drivers ie headphones no.
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What format is the output ie bt, 24 bit toshlink?
With stereo speakers in a room you could hear that. With closed drivers ie headphones no.
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This is the V60 internal mic picking it up. Default Android output/input (48000hz 24bit, I assume). I just open any free RTA analyzer (with good enough resolution) , and it picks it up. It's always on when the screen is on. it can be seen and measured with any device able to pick up above 18Khz (I used another iphone 7 with the built in mic). When the screen goes of it's gone, when only the fingerprint scanner is visible on the V60, theres only one spike visible around 18500hz. When the whole screen is on, I can see a mountain of spikes around 18500hz, evenly spaced. My guesses are it's either connected to the fingerprint scanner, wireless second display, wireless pay or charge functions. My LG V60 is the only device I've witnessed this with and Ive only measured this one device so I'm not sure if there's something wrong with mine or all V60s behave this way. Either way its interesting . The app in the photos is Sound Spectrum Pro, I like it because it has extremely wide resolution and you can zoom in on any frequency range.
Try disabling the fingerprint scanner...
I just disabled the fingerprint scanner and it's still showing. I made a video and I'll try attaching it here.
Youtube LG v60 18500hz evenly spaced sound spikes
Maybe from the power regulation? External interference? There's no negative portion to that wave pattern.
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Maybe from the power regulation? External interference? There's no negative portion to that wave pattern.
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External interference can be pretty much ruled out at this point. I noticed the missing negative half. The evenly spaced spikes do shift in frequency once in a while but not very much, still in the 18600 18700hz range, than slowly shift back to just above 18500hz. They always stay evenly spaced, they maintain the same distance from each other. They are over 20db in amplitude and if I really zoom in, the tips seem so narrow that it doesn't look like just an analog signal.
It would really help to see if anyone else can turn on RTA audio analyzer on their V60 and find out if they see the same thing.
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External interference can be pretty much ruled out at this point. I noticed the missing negative half. The evenly spaced spikes do shift in frequency once in a while but not very much, still in the 18600 18700hz range, than slowly shift back to just above 18500hz. They always stay evenly spaced, they maintain the same distance from each other. They are over 20db in amplitude and if I really zoom in, the tips seem so narrow that it doesn't look like just an analog signal.
It would really help to see if anyone else can turn on RTA audio analyzer on their V60 and find out if they see the same thing.
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I noticed that when
Himediadroid said:
External interference can be pretty much ruled out at this point. I noticed the missing negative half. The evenly spaced spikes do shift in frequency once in a while but not very much, still in the 18600 18700hz range, than slowly shift back to just above 18500hz. They always stay evenly spaced, they maintain the same distance from each other. They are over 20db in amplitude and if I really zoom in, the tips seem so narrow that it doesn't look like just an analog signal.
It would really help to see if anyone else can turn on RTA audio analyzer on their V60 and find out if they see the same thing.
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Hi I just noticed that when I attach the second screen on the v60 theres another spike that appears immediately preceding the others and goes away when the second screen is off. Perhaps this is where at least some of the spikes relate to. Still very curious
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I noticed that when
Hi I just noticed that when I attach the second screen on the v60 theres another spike that appears immediately preceding the others and goes away when the second screen is off. Perhaps this is where at least some of the spikes relate to. Still very curious
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Poor circuit isolation.
Whatever the cause(s) with a stereo signal in open air listening area those spikes will be audible when those sound waves interact with the other audio frequencies to produce secondary waves in the audible range.
With sealed systems like headsets, buds etc few can hear them directly, but some can especially younger females.
Interesting things do happen when I bring it next to a plugged in guitar pickup. Even with airplane mode on, no wifi and screen closed. I guess I was hoping for it to be intentional rather than not.