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I want to be able to use my LG V30+ (T-Mobile version) on both T-Mobile as well at AT&T (personal account and work account, so I swap SIMs as needed). However the services that will do this seem very suspect, and price is $6 to $150. I assume this phone uses the T-Mobile unlock app (I haven't opened yet, in case I decide to return it and eat $50). Is this doable, and any suggestions on who?
Thanks...
If you pay off the phone T-Mobile will unlock it for you.
Or find out who unlocked this guy's T-Mobile phone:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3753214
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
ChazzMatt said:
If you pay off the phone T-Mobile will unlock it for you.
Or find out who unlocked this guy's T-Mobile phone:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3753214
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
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Thanks - I know my inquiry sounds "suspect" - but I'm a longtime loyal T-Mobile customer who took advantage of the BYGO current offer. Paying off isn't realistic, as in theory I believe it requires me to pay off 2 phones, and then get paid back for one over 24 months - which is a crazy proposition! If that's my pay-off option, I'll just return the phones and eat the $100 restocking. I would just like one unlocked to I can switch between my personal and work account.
cz9h3d said:
Thanks - I know my inquiry sounds "suspect" - but I'm a longtime loyal T-Mobile customer who took advantage of the BYGO current offer. Paying off isn't realistic, as in theory I believe it requires me to pay off 2 phones, and then get paid back for one over 24 months - which is a crazy proposition! If that's my pay-off option, I'll just return the phones and eat the $100 restocking. I would just like one unlocked to I can switch between my personal and work account.
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Well, ask that guy. He seems to have bought two and unlocked them to work on AT&T. Find out how he did it.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
I used the unlock app on the phone and it works instantly, but phones were paid in full. Did the BOGO a few months ago, ended up switching to unlimited at the end of January and paid the remainder of the phones off.
Xblackberryuser said:
I used the unlock app on the phone and it works instantly, but phones were paid in full. Did the BOGO a few months ago, ended up switching to unlimited at the end of January and paid the remainder of the phones off.
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I think they were sending out a cash card for the free phone then - so one could use that to pay off a phone immediately. Now it's 24 monthly credits.
cz9h3d said:
I think they were sending out a cash card for the free phone then - so one could use that to pay off a phone immediately. Now it's 24 monthly credits.
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Yes. T-Mobile's BOGO deal last year was one where they sent a prepaid Mastercard after 6-8 weeks, when you bought two V30s (or V30+) on installment plan. If you timed it right, LG had a $400 rebate going at the same time, which was stackable with the T-Mo BOGO.
For my part, I paid off both phones when I received the BOGO Mastercard, then unlocked using the T-Mobile Unlock app. A painless process -- and free. As I understand the phones must be on T-Mobiles network for at least 40 days, and the account still open, in order to be eligible for unlock. Needless to say, the phones must be paid off.
While I did indeed receive both a $800 rebate from T-Mo and $400 from LG, I screwed up by waiting a few days after unlocking before porting out the numbers, so that my T-Mo plan rolled a few days into its 3rd month. I was certain they would prorate that month, but I never received a final bill, they just charged me a full month. So I wasted $100 paying for my new service (AT&T MVNO) while T-Mo's meter kept running on a closed account. My mistake, of course, for not reading their fine print.
My main reason for changing network is T-Mo's lack of reception in our home. I like the company and would have gone to T-Mo prepaid or MVNO if coverage had worked. Maybe I'll come back to T-MO when Band 71 gets rolled out in a couple years -- although right now I am still steaming about them not prorating my last month.
Tmo playing games.. Who can I pay that someone can vouch for?
this wil work to unlock lg v30 + locked to t mobile?
i want to use one in europe, it´s blacklisted
i have to pay service like this or there is any free solution?
ebay.com/itm/T-MOBILE-LG-V20-H918-V30-H932-ARISTO-M210-K7-K330-K10-K428SG-PREMIUM-UNLOCK-CODE/112785418959
anyone please
dentedilupo said:
anyone please
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Anyone, please what? Please read the thread? We've answered all the questions and people have given suggestions. Read the thread.
ChazzMatt said:
Anyone, please what? Please read the thread? We've answered all the questions and people have given suggestions. Read the thread.
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chill out... this thread is from 23rd February 2018, i´m just asking if the only way to sim unlock this phone is paying service since my future lg v30+ can´t use the tmobile app to unlock
so only way right now is paying service like i posted ? there is more cheaper?
thank you
dentedilupo said:
chill out... this thread is from 23rd February 2018, i´m just asking if the only way to sim unlock this phone is paying service since my future lg v30+ can´t use the tmobile app to unlock
so only way right now is paying service like i posted ? there is more cheaper?
thank you
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so you're just ignoring the answer on September 1?
No one can tell you the answers to your questions.
Why not buy a phone that can be unlocked for free? Like any of the other North America variants? With those you just convert to carrier unlocked US998.
ALSO you can buy mint North America variants guaranteed to be clean for just over $300. No need to worry about blacklist or paying for SIM card unlock. I know Europe doesn't care about U.S. blacklist. Just saying you seem to be going to a lot of trouble to get this phone, and it makes no sense.
If you live in Europe, you don't need U.S. T-MOBILE phone.
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No one can tell you that.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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why?
dentedilupo said:
why?
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Tell me why you need a U.S. T-Mobile phone in Europe. There's free SIM card unlock for any other North America variants and some don't even need SIM card unlock, they're already unlocked.
You're buying one that needs it and the one that is hardest. There's examples in this form that even T-Mobile sometimes can't SIM card unlock their own phones.
but if you absolutely want it no matter what look at the post from September 1st.
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Tell me why you need a U.S. T-Mobile phone in Europe. There's free SIM card unlock for any other North America variants and some don't even need SIM card unlock, they're already unlocked.
You're buying one that needs it and the one that is hardest. There's examples in this form that even T-Mobile can't SIM card unlock their own phones.
but if you absolutely want it no matter what look at the post from September 1st.
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because i only payed 270 euros for it... here in europe for a used minimal is 350 euros...
dentedilupo said:
because i only payed 270 euros for it... here in europe for a used minimal is 350 euros...
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But now you have to factor in unlock fee, IF it works.
For $261 Euros (US $305) you could have gotten mint US998 already unlocked.
Good luck.
There's no free unlock for T-Mobile. You can't convert to another variant which is carrier unlocked.
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let´s see if this service will work, it´s for t mobile, not expensive, 5 euros
and for 261 euros in ebay there is nothing!!!
this 270 euros includes the post and taxes , so for a lg v30+ it´s a great deal..
"Service Supports ALL IMEI:
Clean, Blacklisted, Under Contract, Unpaid, Barred
This service does not include BLACKLIST removal
*** Blacklisted LG Phones will not work in North America (USA-Canada) ***
This listing is for the following:
LG -
G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, K7, K10, K20+, G STYLO, STYLO II, STYLO III PLUS, V10, V20, V30, V30+, LEON, ARISTOLG - V10 (H901) , V20 (H918) , V30 (H932) , V30+ (H932U)G2 (D801) , G3 (D851) , G4 (H811) , G5 (H830) , G6 (H872)ARISTO (M210)G STYLO (H631) , STYLO 2 (K550) , STYLO 3 (TP450)LEON (H345)K7 (K330) , K10 (K428SG) , K20+ (TP260)"
dentedilupo said:
let´s see if this service will work, it´s for t mobile, not expensive, 5 euros
and for 261 euros in ebay there is nothing!!!
this 270 euros includes the post and taxes , so for a lg v30+ it´s a great deal..
"Service Supports ALL IMEI:
Clean, Blacklisted, Under Contract, Unpaid, Barred
This service does not include BLACKLIST removal
*** Blacklisted LG Phones will not work in North America (USA-Canada) ***
This listing is for the following:
LG -
G2, G3, G4, G5, G6, K7, K10, K20+, G STYLO, STYLO II, STYLO III PLUS, V10, V20, V30, V30+, LEON, ARISTOLG - V10 (H901) , V20 (H918) , V30 (H932) , V30+ (H932U)G2 (D801) , G3 (D851) , G4 (H811) , G5 (H830) , G6 (H872)ARISTO (M210)G STYLO (H631) , STYLO 2 (K550) , STYLO 3 (TP450)LEON (H345)K7 (K330) , K10 (K428SG) , K20+ (TP260)"
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There is $305 mint US998 in eBay two f days ago. I saw it myself. It's still there. See screenshot. You aren't looking right.
dentedilupo said:
and for 261 euros in ebay there is nothing!!!
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You're wrong. US $305 = 261 Euros, current exchange rate at this moment.
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Please Fix V30 HardBrick, Quacom QD_Loader !!!
Cant. enjoy brick. Need programmer files.
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Please Fix V30 HardBrick, Quacom QD_Loader !!!
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Since there's really nothing you can do to fix it, can you tell us how you messed it up? What were you trying to do?
Usually it's stuff like trying to flash other firware over T-Mobile H932 or similar with different RSA encryption, or trying to flash mismatched partitions.
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Since there's really nothing you can do to fix it, can you tell us how you messed it up? What were you trying to do?
Usually it's stuff like trying to flash other firware over T-Mobile H932 or similar with different RSA encryption, or trying to flash mismatched partitions.
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Flash H933 to US998 => Brick Black Scren - No Download Mode and Fastboot
nguyenchanhthong said:
Flash H933 to US998 => Brick Black Scren - No Download Mode and Fastboot
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You used these instructions or something different?
FRANKENSTEIN CONVERTING ANY NORTH AMERICA V30/V30+ (EXCEPT T-MOBILE H932) TO US998 OREO
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...ssflashing-t3780969/post76510671#post76510671
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You used these instructions or something different?
FRANKENSTEIN CONVERTING ANY NORTH AMERICA V30/V30+ (EXCEPT T-MOBILE H932) TO US998 OREO
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...ssflashing-t3780969/post76510671#post76510671
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No Download Mod, No Fastboot, No Recovery ^^, Black screen
nguyenchanhthong said:
No Download Mod, No Fastboot, No Recovery ^^, Black screen
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Yes, but HOW did it get into that condition? Were you using Frankenstein directions or doing something on your own? Frankenstein won't brick your phone, unless you did something strange...
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Yes, but got did it get into that condition? Were you using Frankenstein directions or doing something on your own? Frankenstein won't brick your phone, unless you did something strange...
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SIgh and mindlessly I did it with an H932 to US998 and now it's bricked and Octoplus box can't help
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SIgh and mindlessly I did it with an H932 to US998 and now it's bricked and Octoplus box can't help
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I think my warning on the Frankenstein instructions is pretty clear. It's even in bolded, red lettering.
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I say NOT to try this on T-mobile H932, and why -- because the RSA encryption is different. Other people prior to you bricked their H932 phones back in the early days of what became Frankenstein, before I wrote the instructions. THAT is why the warning is there in the first place.
But you did it anyway? No, Octopus box can't help.
Can't help it I really like the V30 ever since I started on the first one. of all the phone I've had this is probably best in term of shape size and design. V30 has more color and choices than V35....so I went on ebay and bought a few and forgot which one was which variant...that said what's the major differece between H932 and the rest of V30 alphabet ?
ChazzMatt said:
I think my warning on the Frankenstein instructions is pretty clear. It's even in bolded, red lettering.
I say NOT to try this on T-mobile H932, and why -- because the RSA encryption is different. Other people prior to you bricked their H932 phones back in the early days of what became Frankenstein, before I wrote the instructions. THAT is why the warning is there in the first place.
But you did it anyway? No, Octopus box can't help.
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KennynGGG said:
Can't help it I really like the V30 ever since I started on the first one. of all the phone I've had this is probably best in term of shape size and design. V30 has more color and choices than V35....so I went on ebay and bought a few and forgot which one was which variant...
that said what's the major difference between H932 and the rest of V30 alphabet ?
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Oh yes, V30 was the Best Phone of the Year for 2017 (Note 8 maybe 2nd place, the rest all much further behind), and is still one of the best phones out there. Seriously, look at this list and tell me a 2018 phone that can match it? OnePlus junk sure can't. (I count at least 7 items on that list the OnePlus 6T does NOT have.)
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
The main difference between T-mobile H932 and the other North America variants is the H932 has T-mobile's newest LTE band 71 -- which doesn't make a bit of difference to you or me, who doesn't use T-mobile. For people NOT on T-mobile, any of the North America carrier unlocked variants are better (US998, H931, AS998 -- or something like LS998 V30+ converted to one of those with Frankenstein). For bootloader unlock, you need fastboot flash commands, so US998 (original or converted with Frankenstein) then is KING.
H932 is also harder to install TWRP and root... Since it does NOT have fastboot flash commands and you can NOT Frankenstein it, then you can NOT use any of the the WTF exploit instructions. Instead, you have to use the OTHER guide, for H932, by @runningnak3d.
ChazzMatt said:
Oh yes, V30 was the Best Phone of the Year for 2017 (Note 8 maybe 2nd place, the rest all much further behind), and is still one of the best phones out there.
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
The difference between T-mobile H932 and the other North America variants is the H932 has T-mobile's newest LTE band 71 -- which doesn't make a bit of difference to you or me who doesn't use T-mobile. H932 is also harder to bootloader unlock and root. You cannot use WTF exploit, you have to use other OTHER guide, by @runningnak3d.
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yep, all the other phones feel heavy now. Thanks for the tip on runningnak3d, I'll check it out.
I was on T-Mobile for years but I could save a lot if I became the 4th phone on a shared unlimited plan on AT&T. So I bought a US998 and I brought it to AT&T to add a line on a bring my own device offer. They have an optional $4/month service which is essentially greatly extended caller ID and it identifies "likely scams" among other things like mobile user caller ID and identifies a lot of things that regular caller ID doesn’t. I had it on T-Mo until earlier today. It, however, requires that the phone be accepted for "HD Voice" which the V30 is but not on AT&T if the IMEI isn’t on "their" list of their phones. It isn’t a matter of the phone having the US998 firmware but that the IMEI doesn’t match. If I understand things correctly, and I don’t know that I do, then even if I bought an H931 from an eBay seller, I'd be unable to activate it with full functionality.
If I'm wrong, then I could return the US998 and buy an H931 and flash it to a us998 and give up some memory (the US998 is a V30+) and some cheap headphones and get the missing features. Or I could go back to T-Mo and spend another $30 a month. Or I could give up the caller ID, Wi-Fi calling, HD voice and a few lesser features.
I found an email form an AT&T rep, back in 2016, saying that they were working on adding all features for users of phones brought to AT&T and that they were working on it. I don’t remember if they implied it was at great urgency. When I was at the store, the people there spent over a half hour trying to activate the service and they couldn’t figure it out. Of course, they merely tried the same failing things over and over and never tried other things like maybe calling AT&T support, or looking it up or even asking people who might have known. When I called and got as supervisor, I was told it didn’t work because it was the policy of AT&T to not offer the services on BYOD phones.
Anyone know anything here? I'd prefer info trhat;'d help me get my6 phone on AT&T wiht the features but I'd settle for knowing tghat it';s not goping to work.
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It, however, requires that the phone be accepted for "HD Voice" which the V30 is but not on AT&T if the IMEI isn’t on "their" list of their phones. It isn’t a matter of the phone having the US998 firmware but that the IMEI doesn’t match. If I understand things correctly, and I don’t know that I do, then even if I bought an H931 from an eBay seller, I'd be unable to activate it with full functionality.
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No, you don't quite understand correctly. They are pressing you to have an AT&T-branded phone, not specifically a phone they personally sell to you. You could buy an H931 off eBay and it would have the IMEI they SAY they are looking for.
Having said that you admit they didn't call AT&T tech support. I would call AT&T tech support myself or go to another AT&T store. If they still say no, then buy an H931 off eBay...
Also, what happens when you flash the H931 TWRP-flashable zip to your US998? That doesn't allow the AT&T features?
from, what I understand, it comes down to provisioning and they describe the process as one with no discretionary range at all. The only issue is whether the IMEI is in the list that can be so provisioned. Whether it is owning a H931 or a phone of their supply is unknown but they do insist it is the latter. I compare it to the issues some people report trying to unlock a phone they say is paid for and others say it is not. The idea being that there is a somewhat fluid master list somewhere and they are saying there is a list of H931s meant for sale by AT&T agents.
I don't believe it either but it appears to be a road block.
So now do I try to return the US998 because I had activation issues with it? On a fairness level, it's not the fault of the eBay reseller who sold me the phone he said he would, and by all accounts, in good working order.
So what would you do, if you accepted my position that I need these features that seem to require an IMEI that AT&T is willing to provision with HD Voice, and the resulting capabilities which only follow on a phone provisioned for HD Voice so I could subscribe for the $4/.month caller ID service. I’d hate to pay another $300 to buy a H931 to find that the problem still exists or that I now have 2 phones when I need one.
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No, you don't quite understand correctly. They are pressing you to have an AT&T-branded phone, not specifically a phone they personally sell to you. You could buy an H931 off eBay and it would have the IMEI they saythey are looking for.
Having said that you admit they didn't call AT&T tech support. I would call AT&T tech support myself or go to another AT&T store. If they still say no, then buy an H931 off eBay...
Also, what happens when you flash the H931 TWRP-flashable zip to your US998? That doesn't allow the AT&T features?
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Bob Simons said:
from, what I understand, it comes down to provisioning and they describe the process as one with no discretionary range at all. The only issue is whether the IMEI is in the list that can be so provisioned. Whether it is owning a H931 or a phone of their supply is unknown but they do insist it is the latter. I compare it to the issues some people report trying to unlock a phone they say is paid for and others say it is not. The idea being that there is a somewhat fluid master list somewhere and they are saying there is a list of H931s meant for sale by AT&T agents.
I don't believe it either but it appears to be a road block.
So now do I try to return the US998 because I had activation issues with it? On a fairness level, it's not the fault of the eBay reseller who sold me the phone he said he would, and by all accounts, in good working order.
So what would you do, if you accepted my position that I need these features that seem to require an IMEI that AT&T is willing to provision with HD Voice, and the resulting capabilities which only follow on a phone provisioned for HD Voice so I could subscribe for the $4/.month caller ID service. I’d hate to pay another $300 to buy a H931 to find that the problem still exists or that I now have 2 phones when I need one.
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I'm going to leave that decision to you.
My sister and brother-in-law both have LS998 V30+ (off eBay) converted to US998 V30+ and they're both on post paid AT&T. He's a successful tech salesperson and they live in a million dollar house.
Another friend of mine (very tech oriented) has postpaid AT&T on native US998 V30 (B&H Photo) and works for a world wide news organization.
I don't know whether they have HD Voice, WiFi calling on their US998 -- but they have never complained about not having it...
They all got this phone on my recommendation, and are using it on postpaid AT&T.
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My wife and I, my mother and two other friends have either native or converted US998 on Prepaid AT&T. I do not have those features, but I like having the lower price of AT&T Prepaid with the speed of postpaid AT&T included vs the lag of AT&T MVNOs.
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But you know your needs better than me. I would just try with another store or AT&T technical support before giving up. If you do return the US998 you can bootloader unlock and root H931. I would activate first to get everything done, before following the WTF instructions.
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I just spoke to a so-called supervisor who tells me that the issue is one of supported devices on the BYOD plan. they say that while the H931 as sold by AT&T is a supported device, an h931 not sold by AT&T is somehow fundamentally different and it appears to them as having a different "image" (a term not explained or otherwise defined) and so there is no way that a non AT&T H931 will ever appear on their system, as one of theirs. As not one theirs, they refuse the range of services that include "HD Voice, Wi-Fi calling and enhanced caller ID and a security feature that I don’t know the name of.
They insist that this "image" issue is really true and that anyone with an AT&T supplied H931 and a non-AT&T H931 appear as different devices on their system.
They proposed creating an escalation ticket so that the "back office department" can look to see if there is anything that they can do. They say as things are currently set up there is no option anywhere to authorize a non-AT&T phone but maybe the back-office folks can do it, I’m promised a callback in 24 hours and he is improbably making positive sounding noises. As so much of this makes no sense, I don’t expect qi positive result, but I will give them 24 hours
I'm not casting aspersions on any user of AT&T's postpaid or pre-paid system but I can say that I ne3edc Wi-Fi calling for reception where I work and I want the caller IDF service and have come to want it in the 4 years I’ve been on T-Mobile who offers the same product.
Please don’t think that I'm critiquing anyone who is using any carrier's system to their satisfaction. I'm just saying that I would be significantly troubled by not having Wi-Fi calling as I live and work in areas where there is no calling except once inside buildings and connected to their Wi-Fi LAN. And for whatever reason, I'm being excluded on grounds that seem suspicions.
ChazzMatt said:
I'm going to leave that decision to you.
My sister and brother-in-law both have LS998 V30+ (off eBay) converted to US998 V30+ and they're both on post paid AT&T. He's a successful tech salesperson and they live in a million dollar house.
Another friend of mine (very tech oriented) has postpaid AT&T on native US998 V30 (B&H Photo) and works for a world wide news organization.
I don't know whether they have HD Voice, WiFi calling on their US998 -- but they have never complained about not having it...
They all got this phone on my recommendation, and are using it on postpaid AT&T.
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My wife and I, my mother and two other friends have either native or converted US998 on Prepaid AT&T. I do not have those features, but I like having the lower price of AT&T Prepaid with the speed of postpaid AT&T included vs the lag of AT&T MVNOs.
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Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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can anyone tell me what rom I should use for the H932?
I've just about decided to go back to T-Mo and I need a rom that wont lose root an dwill enable B71 and would like the latest, stockest thing that has been at least partly debloated. Is there any such thing? Is there info for loadng the lastest H932 rom on a US998?
Bob Simons said:
I just spoke to a so-called supervisor who tells me that the issue is one of supported devices on the BYOD plan. they say that while the H931 as sold by AT&T is a supported device, an h931 not sold by AT&T is somehow fundamentally different and it appears to them as having a different "image" (a term not explained or otherwise defined) and so there is no way that a non AT&T H931 will ever appear on their system, as one of theirs. As not one theirs, they refuse the range of services that include "HD Voice, Wi-Fi calling and enhanced caller ID and a security feature that I don’t know the name of.
They insist that this "image" issue is really true and that anyone with an AT&T supplied H931 and a non-AT&T H931 appear as different devices on their system.
They proposed creating an escalation ticket so that the "back office department" can look to see if there is anything that they can do. They say as things are currently set up there is no option anywhere to authorize a non-AT&T phone but maybe the back-office folks can do it, I’m promised a callback in 24 hours and he is improbably making positive sounding noises. As so much of this makes no sense, I don’t expect qi positive result, but I will give them 24 hours
I'm not casting aspersions on any user of AT&T's postpaid or pre-paid system but I can say that I ne3edc Wi-Fi calling for reception where I work and I want the caller IDF service and have come to want it in the 4 years I’ve been on T-Mobile who offers the same product.
Please don’t think that I'm critiquing anyone who is using any carrier's system to their satisfaction. I'm just saying that I would be significantly troubled by not having Wi-Fi calling as I live and work in areas where there is no calling except once inside buildings and connected to their Wi-Fi LAN. And for whatever reason, I'm being excluded on grounds that seem suspicions.
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I've just about decided to go back to T-Mo and I need a rom that wont lose root an dwill enable B71 and would like the latest, stockest thing that has been at least partly debloated. Is there any such thing? Is there info for loadng the lastest H932 rom on a US998?
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This T-Mobile ROM port for US998 won't give you LTE band 71, but probably everything else:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-v30-t-mobile-stock-rom-20s-t3925486
is there any way to get band 71, and wifi calling on a us998?
I just went to a t-mo store with the us998 rom and put a t-mo sim in it and the hd voice calling worked fine although I didn't try Wi-Fi calling yet. But where I live I think b71 would make a huge difference. In any case I want a chance to find out if this is true. This is probably the main reason I bought the V30: my V20 doesn’t even have B71 and I have no reception in way too many places where t-mo says there is coverage. They also imply that most new build out is with b71, and they further imply that all else equal, ,b71 works better as if it's just magic. It seems at last worth checking out if there's a chance. I see some roms change the modems and some do not. Is it likely that that roms that don’t change the modem will not change the lack of b71 so I'd need a rom that includes an h932 modem to even have a chance of b71 working?
Thanks agian for all yuor help.
ChazzMatt said:
This T-Mobile ROM port for US998 won't give you LTE band 71, but probably everything else:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-lg-v30-t-mobile-stock-rom-20s-t3925486
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a while ago you said thje us998 had band 71
I'm referring to https://www.xda-developers.com/unlocked-lg-v30-band-71-600-mhz/
If the us998 doesnt have b71, does it if it has the H932 modem?
Bob Simons said:
I just went to a t-mo store with the us998 rom and put a t-mo sim in it and the hd voice calling worked fine although I didn't try Wi-Fi calling yet. But where I live I think b71 would make a huge difference. In any case I want a chance to find out if this is true. This is probably the main reason I bought the V30: my V20 doesn’t even have B71 and I have no reception in way too many places where t-mo says there is coverage. They also imply that most new build out is with b71, and they further imply that all else equal, ,b71 works better as if it's just magic. It seems at last worth checking out if there's a chance. I see some roms change the modems and some do not. Is it likely that that roms that don’t change the modem will not change the lack of b71 so I'd need a rom that includes an h932 modem to even have a chance of b71 working?
Thanks agian for all yuor help.
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I'm referring to https://www.xda-developers.com/unlocked-lg-v30-band-71-600-mhz/
If the us998 doesnt have b71, does it if it has the H932 modem?
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If you read that article, do you see who he quoted in that article and what thread he linked to? . Someone named ChazzMatt. Go read the thread he links to, please. I started that thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
That was also in September 2017 before the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked (Open Market) US998 V30/V30+ was released. We were hoping the upcoming "official" carrier unlocked US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) would ALSO have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 -- and one part of T-Mobile SEEMED to be hinting it would... That you could buy EITHER H932 OR the "official" carrier unlocked US998 and have all the T-Mobile bands. These official carrier unlocked phones are called "Open Market" phones by LG; these are the phones that LG usually lists in their LG Bootloader Unlock code eligible list.
Thus the thread I started, and subsequent XDA NEWS article. That turned out to NOT be true. The tweets we misleading.
Even so, we also hoped with root on the "Open Market" US998 we could activate the hidden T-Mobile network menus we could clearly see. THAT is also discussed in the thread.
Yet in all the time since then, no one has had any luck getting T-Mobile LTE band 71 working on any phone except U.S. T-Mobile H932.
@runningnak3d, the dev who ROOTED the T-Mobile H932 currently uses a US998 on T-Mobile. If anyone could get LTE band 71 on T-Mobile with US998, it would be him. . He hasn't, and he says LTE band 71 is not that important for him.
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We also found out the the only difference between the "Open Market" official carrier unlocked US998 V30 (64GB) sold by B&H Photo and the US998 V30 (64 GB) sold by U.S. Cellular is the B&H Photo V30 was secretly eligible for LG bootloader unlock code. One of my V30 used official LG bootloader unlock code, but we had to hack the LG dropdown menu on the LG Dev website to enter the information. LG has NEVER officially announced the Open Market US998 V30 is eligible for bootloader unlock code. That trick/hack does NOT work for the Open Market US998 V30+. So, only one of my phones was bootloader unlocked using that method.
However there was NO DIFFERENCE between the various US998 V30+ (128GB) sold by the any entities. NO US998 V30+ is eligible for LG bootloader unlock code, and ALL US998 V30/V30+ are actually carrier unlocked -- even those sold by U.S. Cellular.
LG was not forthcoming with any of this information. We had to figure it out by ourselves, through trial and error.
With WTF exploit, we are not dependent on LG for bootloader unlock code. But that developments did not happen until May 2018. My US998 V30+ was not bootloader unlocked and rooted until then.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Of course I know it was you. that's why I'm asking you follow up questions.
I'm seeing comments along two theories and I dont i know which is more likely true. Theory one is that the 835 chips come in two types, ones that have band 71 capabilities and those tht dont, or the other theory which is that there are software modems thaat compensate for the lack of included band 71 modems, and where a certain software modem could add the capbility. In effect, some say that the US998 can never get band 71 and others say for example, that if you knew what you were doing wiht the Shortcut Master you could add the band, or alternatively, you could flash the correct rom or modem.
And so I start doing my homework and sure enough, you show up as one of the few that know anything about it.
I have no idea but I keep being told that things arent going to go the way I want them to. I'm hoping that I can get band 71 using this phone because I just bought this phone and I need or think I need band 71. It is why I bougnt this phone.
How do things look for me getting band 71? My clever plan to go to AT&T failed rather dramatically by my standards, even if you think I should be fine without the functions that so many people don't care about. Out in the boonies, T-Mpo is putting most of their efforts into band 71 and I spent a lot of time driving where there is no reception and I'm told there'd be a lot more if I could get that band. that's mainly why I bought the new phone as the V20 still works about the same, not getting band 71 every day.
I'm trying to learn about this phone after 2+ years with the H918 but I'll never pick up what you know any time soon, so I'm asking you.
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If you read that article, do you see who he quoted in that article and what thread he linked to? . Someone named ChazzMatt. Go read the thread he links to, please. I started that thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
That was also in September 2017 before the OFFICIAL carrier unlocked (Open Market) US998 V30/V30+ was released. We were hoping the upcoming "official" carrier unlocked US998 (sold by authorized 3rd party retailers like B&H Photo) would ALSO have the new U.S. T-Mobile LTE band 71 -- and one part of T-Mobile SEEMED to be hinting it would... That you could buy EITHER H932 OR the "official" carrier unlocked US998 and have all the T-Mobile bands. These official carrier unlocked phones are called "Open Market" phones by LG; these are the phones that LG usually lists in their LG Bootloader Unlock code eligible list.
Thus the thread I started, and subsequent XDA NEWS article. That turned out to NOT be true. The tweets we misleading.
Even so, we also hoped with root on the "Open Market" US998 we could activate the hidden T-Mobile network menus we could clearly see. THAT is also discussed in the thread.
Yet in all the time since then, no one has had any luck getting T-Mobile LTE band 71 working on any phone except U.S. T-Mobile H932.
@runningnak3d, the dev who ROOTED the T-Mobile H932 currently uses a US998 on T-Mobile. If anyone could get LTE band 71 on T-Mobile with US998, it would be him. . He hasn't, and he says LTE band 71 is not that important for him.
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We also found out the the only difference between the "official" carrier unlocked US998 V30 (64GB) sold by B&H Photo and the US998 V30 (64 GB) sold by U.S. Cellular is the B&H Photo V30 was secretly eligible for LG bootloader unlock code. One of my V30 used official LG bootloader unlock code, but we had to hack the LG dropdown menu on the LG Dev website to enter the information. LG has NEVER officially announced the Open Market US998 V30 is eligible. That does NOT work for the Open Market US998 V30+. So, only one of my phones was bootloader unlocked using that method.
However there was NO DIFFERENCE between the various US998 V30+ (128GB) sold by the any entities. NO US998 V30+ is eligible for LG bootloader unlock code, and ALL US998 V30/V30+ are actually carrier unlocked -- even those sold by U.S. Cellular.
LG was not forthcoming with any of this information. We had to figure it out by ourselves, through trial and error.
With WTF exploit, we are not dependent on LG for bootloader unlock code. But that developments did not happen until May 2018. My US998 V30+ was not bootloader unlocked and rooted until then.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Bob Simons said:
Of course I know it was you. that's why I'm asking you follow up questions.
I'm seeing comments along two theories and I dont i know which is more likely true. Theory one is that the 835 chips come in two types, ones that have band 71 capabilities and those tht dont, or the other theory which is that there are software modems thaat compensate for the lack of included band 71 modems, and where a certain software modem could add the capbility. In effect, some say that the US998 can never get band 71 and others say for example, that if you knew what you were doing wiht the Shortcut Master you could add the band, or alternatively, you could flash the correct rom or modem.
And so I start doing my homework and sure enough, you show up as one of the few that know anything about it.
I have no idea but I keep being told that things arent going to go the way I want them to. I'm hoping that I can get band 71 using this phone because I just bought this phone and I need or think I need band 71. It is why I bougnt this phone.
How do things look for me getting band 71? My clever plan to go to AT&T failed rather dramatically by my standards, even if you think I should be fine without the functions that so many people don't care about. Out in the boonies, T-Mpo is putting most of their efforts into band 71 and I spent a lot of time driving where there is no reception and I'm told there'd be a lot more if I could get that band. that's mainly why I bought the new phone as the V20 still works about the same, not getting band 71 every day.
I'm trying to learn about this phone after 2+ years with the H918 but I'll never pick up what you know any time soon, so I'm asking you.
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Bob, if you knew I wrote it and had already read the thread -- then why did you bring it up? If you read the thread you know it's not possible, as far as we know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain all that in my post and you already knew it. I didn't know how up to speed you were. If you had said, "I read this article, I read the whole thread, is there anything new, yes or no?" I would have simply said no, nothing new. Move on.
You are making my head hurt.
Here are your choices:
Go buy a new AT&T H931 from AT&T.
Go buy a mint AT&T H931 off Swappa you KNOW was bought from AT&T. Swappa instead of eBay this time because they check IMEI, etc before letting it be sold. Having been bought from AT&T rather than leftover stock from some warehouse, it SHOULD be in the AT&T system as eligible for all the stuff you want. If you are uncertain, then go buy straight from AT&T.
Go buy a T-mobile H931 if you want to stay with T-mobile and get LTE band 71.
no, I didnt understand and now I do
thanks. i thought it was supposed to be possible.
so my best bet is to get a 931 so I can pay less.
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Bob, if you knew I wrote it and had already read the thread -- then why did you bring it up? If you read the thread you know it's not possible, as far as we know. I spent a lot of time trying to explain all that in my post and you already knew it. I didn't know how up to speed you were. If you had said, "I read this article, I read the whole thread, is there anything new, yes or no?" I would have simply said no, nothing new. Move on.
You are making my head hurt.
Here are your choices:
Go buy a new AT&T H931 from AT&T.
Go buy a mint AT&T H931 off Swappa you KNOW was bought from AT&T. Swappa instead of eBay this time because they check IMEI, etc before letting you sell it. Having been bought from AT&T rather than leftover stock from some warehouse, it will be in the AT&T system as eligible for all the stuff you want.
Go buy a T-mobile H931 if you want to stay with T-mobile and get LTE band 71.
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Bob Simons said:
thanks. i thought it was supposed to be possible.
so my best bet is to get a 931 so I can pay less.
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This tweet from T-mobile was what got our hopes up. The "unlocked" was the US998.
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yes, and stuff like that make my head explode and made me think that there was some way.
So now I have to see if I can return this ebay phone that I've rooted and go buy something else.
I can go to your page at https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-market-us998-t3736910
do you know which of the trwo (10c or 10d) is the 7.1.2 my phone came with?
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This tweet from T-mobile was basically a lie and got our hopes up.
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Hi all - long time lurker, first time poster. Big thanks to this community for helping me with random roots throughout the years, but I've come across something I can't quite find definitive answers on and need some assistance.
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
So I've now decided I want to buy a 1+7 Pro and want to take advantage of their trade-in program, so I'd like to get the phone back to stock and unroot/relock it all up. I found a solid thread here but because of my special circumstances I'm concerned there will be a bit more to it. The phone has the AT&T logo on the back, so if 1+ gets it and it's an unlocked 998, I'm not sure they'd give me and money for it. Without getting too into the weeds, I just want to know if anyone has advice or can point me to a post detailing this specific circumstance. Do I need to re-convert to a h931 before relocking? If I go back to stock/relock as a 998, will AT&T still work alright? I just don't want to mess something up and brick my phone.
Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
To my understanding, AT&T doesn't share KDZs anywhere, so I don't think it's possible to convert your phone back to H931. I could be wrong.
Otherwise the general steps would be:
1) Revert to stock by flashing US998 KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Phone must be completely stock before relocking the bootloader.
2) Boot into fastboot mode and relock bootloader with fastboot oem lock.
3) Flash the carrier firmware KDZ with LGUP in refurbish mode. Again, in the case of AT&T I don't think it exists.
The reason for this sequence is that the carrier firmware may not allow fastboot.
Edit: Oh, of course if H932 users should see this: Do NOT ever flash the US998 KDZ. Just flash the latest H932 KDZ and use that to relock the bootloader.
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
jptV30 said:
AT&T doesn't release KDZ... you can't go back to stock...
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Right. But a mint US998 can be sold on eBay for $160-$170 right now...
There's your trade in value, in cash.
WTF REDDIT THREAD
protagonest said:
A few months ago I finally took the plunge and unlocked/rooted my AT&T h931. This was by far the most complicated root I've ever done, but I got it done. As most know, this requires first converting my h931 to a carrier unlocked US998, and then proceeding as usual. I followed this amazing thread on Reddit that someone put together based on a bunch of different threads here on XDA.
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Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
Update H931 (AT&T) to Android Pie! (Walkthrough)
This is just the "bootloader unlock warning" screen. It's just a scary picture LG shows you as the phone boots to discourage you from unlocking your bootloader. Ignore it. It will NOT prevent you from doing anything.
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I see they got a "Platinum" award on Reddit?
Well, at least they gave me credit! They combined my Frankenstein and WTF instructions, but focused on H931 and stripped out all the stuff that applied to other V30 variants. (Which is why WTF is like a decision tree -- if you have this variant do X, if you have that variant do Y -- until in Section 5 everyone ends up at the same bootloader unlock "starting line" with fastboot flash commands and early Oreo firmware.)
Everything is cool. They gave me credit and asked people to hit thanks button several times for me here on XDA in return. :good:
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However, the rest of their walkthrough is about custom ROMs, and they credited two other worthy people for that section.
In neither Frankenstein nor WTF, I do not really mention custom ROMs. Because that's not the purpose of either thread.
Frankenstein is to convert your phone to another North American V30 variants -- either to carrier unlock your phone or to instill fastboot flash commands, or both.
For WTF -- it's to unlock your V30 bootloader, install TWRP and get you rooted. (So, some phones like H931 need to take a side trip to Frankenstein thread, but other phones like H930 or H930DS don't need that, as they already have fastboot flash commands.)
Only in the Root Sticky I wrote, I warn H931/H933 takes "extra prep work" for custom ROMs and that all phones should be updated back to latest stock firmware prior to installing custom ROMs. If they have H931/H933, I leave it to them to find out more, as I don't want to scare them off.
Someone once mentioned doing something like this guy did on Reddit thread for ALL V30 variants -- one bootloader unlock/root thread for each variant. US998, H931, H933, LS998, VS996, H930, H930D, H930G, H930DS, AS998, H932 (both T-mobile and Puerto Rico), and that's not even mentioning the Korean variants! But that would be severe overkill and a lot of redundancy. The way WTF is designed, it can handle EVERY V30 on the planet (except for T-mobile H932), as long as you follow decision tree choices. There is a separate thread for T-mobile H932, because it's separate procedure involving a Linux boot disc and other stuff.
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Oh, to the last guy asking questions in that Reddit thread? (duplicate questions) Tell him in Frankenstein conversion, he either didn't do a Master Reset after flashing to Nougat (not following all the steps) or he mistakenly flashed Oreo US998 first, probably thinking they didn't need to flash Nougat (not following all the steps). That's why his phone is bootlooping.
ChazzMatt said:
WTF REDDIT THREAD
Interesting. I recognize my own words throughout most of it, of course -- with same emphasis I use.
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Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
protagonest said:
Thanks for all your hard work on this stuff ChazzMatt! This guy simply streamlined all the work you did specifically for the H931 variant, which was what I needed.
Thanks for the heads up about selling the US998 on Ebay... I hadn't really considered that, but will definitely look deeper into it now. So I could basically just flash a stock image for the US998 and call it good, yeah? Do most interested parties on Ebay prefer these phones remain rooted/unlocked in your (or anyone's) experience?
Thanks for your input all.
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Vast majority prefer carrier unlocked phones, not necessary bootloader unlocked and rooted. With the scary bootloader unlock warning about "possible corruption" just best to re- lock bootloader before selling it.
Flash to US998 20H, then relock bootloader.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
Dinou Sellami said:
but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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And that is exactly correct. It won't get updates as a 998 nor as a used-to-be 931. While yes, of course, some people will understand that and know how to apply an update, **THE VAST MAJORITY** of buyers WILL NOT.
Given that limitation, be sure you state that specifically when selling it. As Dinou says, ebay will be on yer butt otherwise.
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but users will not get OTA updates when they convert the h931 to US998 they will report the seller
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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No they won't report the seller.
None of the LS998 to US998 sold on eBay all the time get OTA updates.
All the US998 V30+ being sold by dealers are former LS998.
No one is reported. The dealer has 99.9 approval rating.
That's the only way to carrier unlock an LS998. I bought one US998 new in box from Wal-Mart, and it's former LS998 converted to US998.
Same with H931.
And it's the only way you're going to be able to sell it. I mean, you can convert to VS996 or H933, but same thing. US998 is the best choice.
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If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
jptV30 said:
If you want to sell it on eBay you have to explain that the phone is really a H931 running US998 firmware. If not, the buyer can just return the phone for a full refund after he finds out the phone isn't a US998 which will be easy since H931 has a AT&T logo.
You'd have to pay for the return shipping, eat the original shipping cost, and still have to pay eBay fees...
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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That doesn't happen with the other Frankenstein converted eBay US998.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...rentrq:0d41f53c16c0a99b185ac3adfff8628c|iid:1
All these V30+ are former LS998 V30+, now converted to US998.
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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Any insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
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Flashing the stock h931 rom will get you close but the BL will still be unlocked(but there is no message on bootup). It has the stock att boot animation.
Notes:
It wipes your internal storage when flashing.
OTA will no longer work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/lg-v30-att-h931-20f-rom-t3872926
br0adband said:
The simplest answer to all this is of course simple: be honest in the ad, list every piece of relevant information and that way if there's any kind of claim for any reason other than "It's dead on arrival, Jim..." protects you (or whoever) as the seller.
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it has a clean IMEI with no leins/not reported stolen/not reported lost (but don't provide the IMEI directly, that can be provided in a PM if necessary using eBay's message system if a potential buyer wants it)
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
- be honest that it will not get OTA updates for future releases of Android (if they'd come out) and might not get security fixes or patches either because of that conversion
- be honest and say the condition and mention every single scratch or scuff or mark on it, take plenty of decent pics, show the Settings page, etc
- be honest about what's included
- be honest and just flat out say "If you decide to make this purchase, you do so understanding everything that's been stated in this ad and accept this prior to the purchase, after which there will be no refunds except for the item being literally DOA and non-functional" or words to that effect and clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing at least once and not buried someplace a the very bottom or whatever
If you don't do anything that can be perceived as being deceptive then eBay (and whatever payment processing service you use) will more than likely side with you, the seller, should an issue arise - if it's truly DOA for whatever reason you're going to have to issue a refund regardless, but I don't think that most people would damage or break something intentionally just to get that refund. This basic idea of being honest about it to as many degrees as you possibly can ensures that you'll only be selling to someone that really understands what it is and if they don't, your listing told them ahead of time so that responsibility is now not on you for them being ignorant.
You can't really do much more than this, so either get to it and sell it on eBay with these kinds of guidelines or keep it and maybe sell it locally, either way, good luck.
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H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
jptV30 said:
H931, H933, VS996, and US998 all have the exact same hardware...
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The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Like I've said... if the buyer finds out that the phone is not a real US998 and wants to return it then the seller has to cover return shipping and issue a full refund.
If not, the buyer can file a dispute stating item not as described and the seller will be forced to take it back...
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Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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br0adband said:
I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
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You DO have CDMA radio if you converted your H931 to US998. You can't use it on Sprint and Verizon because neither will take an H931 -- NOT because your NOW-US998 doesn't have CDMA.
Sprint won't even take US998 as they only take their own branded LS998 (which is why you have to activate LS998 on Sprint BEFORE Frankenstein, bootloader unlock and root).
Verizon conversely looks only at IMEI, and they see it as H931 even if it's now US998 with CDMA. Be interesting to see what happens when Verizon DROPS CDMA end of this year!
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br0adband said:
It can't be stressed enough really to put ALL the relevant info in the ad, be 100% honest about everything:
- be honest that's its originally an AT&T H931
- be honest that the bootloader was unlocked and that message will appear each time the device is powered on from a cold start
- be honest that it was converted to becoming a US Cellular US998 in every respect except for it being a true US998 hardware-wise
clearly state "SOLD AS-IS" in the ad listing .
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It was converted to Open Market US998. DON'T call it "U.S. Cellular" US998. It's NOT. Many U.S. Cellular phones are carrier locked, and U.S. Cellular only takes phones they sell -- so if a U.S. Cellular customer bought it they would be disappointed.
NO, the bootloader unlock warning will not appear because he's going to lock it back.
Yes, clearly state no refunds.
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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TheDannemand said:
You can't go wrong with being honest -- except you may not get the sale on eBay, where dozens other V30s are listed as New or Mint, even though we all know they're Frankenphones. Those sellers are probably willing to absorb a few returns because they bought them by the truckload for $30 each.
Why not just just flash US998 KDZ and relock the bootloader, then see if OnePlus will accept the trade-in? That's what you wanted originally, right?
They're looking for a sale, so they're motivated. And if they DON'T accept the trade-in, then you can worry about selling it on eBay.
That's really what I assumed would be your takeaway from my original reply (post #2).
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Thank you for bringing some clarity to the discussion.
Yes, relock the bootloader and try the trade in. OnePlus isn't going to look at it that carefully, except to verify it's working. They're immediately going to turn around and WHOLESALE to an eBay dealer -- WHO WILL SELL IT ON EBAY.
The eBay dealer will probably swap out the back panel to get rid of the AT&T logo. It'll be sold as US998, which is what it is.
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The AT&T H931 does not have a CDMA radio in it, neither does the H933 (the Rogers Wireless aka Canadian version) so no, they're not the same as the actual US998 hardware which does have both CDMA and GSM radios in it. As my sig clearly states, I have an H931 converted to a US998 and I can't use it with Sprint or Verizon since it doesn't have a CDMA radio in it so, no, they're not all the exact same hardware.
The VS996 is designed to work with Verizon which is a CDMA carrier so that one does have a CDMA radio in it but it offers slightly different LTE band coverage (some of the other bands for AT&T and T-Mobile are covered as roaming bands).
Each model has something different from the others based on what the carriers tell LG to do with them at the factory, which is why I said what I said.
The T-Mobile LG V30 H932 is the only one that has hardware support for LTE band 71 too so, again, something different for every model.
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H931 does have CDMA radio... I don't know where you are getting your information from... but like I've said... the four models I listed all have the exact same hardware...
You are confusing hardware compatibility with carrier policy...
I didn't say anything about H932...
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ChazzMatt said:
Like I've said, former LS998 are sold every day on eBay as US998 BECAUSE THEY NOW ARE US998 and it's not an issue.
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How do you know it's not an issue? How do you know what is happening between the buyers and sellers on eBay? How do you know how many phones were returned... partial refunds given... or disputes filed? You don't...
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It's not hard to sell the phone on eBay. Reading through these comments a lot of you guys act like you've never bought or sold on eBay before...
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Actually... you are acting like you've never done anything on eBay... if you sell a crossflashed phone and you don't state it's crossflashed... you'd have 0% chance of winning the dispute... absolutely 0%...
I recently bought an LG v30 US998, however I'm thinking it may be a converted H931 because of an AT&T logo on the back. Is there a way to tell for sure which version I got?
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I recently bought an LG v30 US998, however I'm thinking it may be a converted H931 because of an AT&T logo on the back. Is there a way to tell for sure which version I got?
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If it was flashed to US998 firmware, it's now US998 -- including all bands, etc.
It is now carrier unlocked and you can manually flash any US998 updates. I've converted a few Sprint LS998 to US998.
If you are merely curious if it was originally AT&T H931, you can do an IMEI number check on any of several online databases.
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The only drawback to former AT&T H931 converted to "native" USS98 is same as former Canada H933 -- both need lots of extra prep to run AOSP/LINEAGE custom ROMs, if that's what you intended to do. (I run rooted stock firmware, so it wouldn't bother me.)
Both have to be at least temporarily converted to US998 for bootloader unlock and root.
I do intend to run LineageOS on it, so that's where my concern lies
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I do intend to run LineageOS on it, so that's where my concern lies
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Then return it.
Most US998 you will see on eBay are former something else. Usually LS998.
If you use Swappa to buy, they don't allow converted phones. IMEI has to match.
I use eBay, because I understand the market and I don't care if it's a converted phone -- especially if it was a former LS998 V30+.
You should get US998 V30+ (128GB). It can't be former H931/H933 as those models only came in 64GB.
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Then return it.
Most US998 you will see on eBay are former something else. Usually LS998.
If you use Swappa to buy, they don't allow converted phones. IMEI has to match.
I use eBay, because I understand the market and I don't care if it's a converted phone -- especially if it was a former LS998 V30+.
You should get US998 V30+ (128GB). It can't be former H931/H933 as those models only came in 64GB.
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I checked an IMEI TAC database, and while most didn't have it listed, the one that did said that it was a H931. Oddly enough I did buy it from Swappa, so maybe they changed their terms (or possibly didn't have the TAC in their db). I'll be getting V30+. I believe the right model number is US998U? Thank you for your help
I was able to figure it out only by creating an account on the LG website. When I did that, I found it WAS a Sprint phone prior to my purchase, but had already been Frankensteined.
Somehow this affected the OTA updates for me, but I'm not sure how