Just thought I'd make a thread announcing it, I realize it will take time for developers to make Roms for it.
Thanks for the thread, waiting for a rom since couple of hours ago
Hopeful to get one as soon as possible.
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Same, can't wait
Really want custom pixel like ROM from @cile381 !
AOSP sources now available
https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/LineageOS/android/+/222627/
I'm also waiting for lineage rom.
This is awesome! With the help from our Big boys we should enjoy latest features in a soon-to-be 4 year old phone.
jeffreymcclain said:
Just thought I'd make a thread announcing it, I realize it will take time for developers to make Roms for it.
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it means ..we have to wait a long way for it
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it means ..we have to wait a long way for it
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Not necessarily. First basic Pie builds could pop up relatively soon (with bugs obviously). But it will take some time to download the sources and get familiar with the new code.
Couldn't come sooner tbh, and been wanting to get back into custom roms for a year now. Although it took 6 months for Lineage 15 to come out after Oreo release...
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Thanks for the thread, waiting for a rom since couple of hours ago
Hopeful to get one as soon as possible.
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I don't understand why the hell didn't google upgrade the 6P to Pie, it is very capable bof handling the mew update! I mean, apple is upgrading 5s to iOS 12...
Google needs to let us have Android 9.0. I can't afford a new phone, and I love my Nexus 6P!
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I don't understand why the hell didn't google upgrade the 6P to Pie, it is very capable bof handling the mew update! I mean, apple is upgrading 5s to iOS 12...
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I 100% agree with you!!!!
It wouldn't of hurt of Google to give the Nexus 6P Android P Beta or even the release of it. This is what annoys me alot with android phones they don't even try keep the phone alive, One, two or even three updates thats it they're done with the phone unlike Apple as much I dislike them they know how make their phones last for a good ass time. I'm glad this website exists because people and developers know that these phones have a longer life to them.
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I don't understand why the hell didn't google upgrade the 6P to Pie, it is very capable bof handling the mew update! I mean, apple is upgrading 5s to iOS 12...
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Sadly, Google, like many OEMs will only support for 2 years.
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It wouldn't of hurt of Google to give the Nexus 6P Android P Beta or even the release of it. This is what annoys me alot with android phones they don't even try keep the phone alive, One, two or even three updates thats it they're done with the phone unlike Apple as much I dislike them they know how make their phones last for a good ass time. I'm glad this website exists because people and developers know that these phones have a longer life to them.
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I dislike Apple as well. Apple likes to lockdown their devices, then it takes forever for a "jailbreak" to be released. That's why I switched to Android 5 years ago.
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This is awesome! With the help from our Big boys we should enjoy latest features in a soon-to-be 4 year old phone.
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Actually, the 6p was released in September 2015, so not quite 3 years old....
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Sadly, Google, like many OEMs will only support for 2 years.
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You couldn't blame OEMs too much, for the Android updates need SoC drivers support. Qualcomm didn't support sd810 anymore so Google has no way to update Android 9 as well.
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I dislike Apple as well. Apple likes to lockdown their devices, then it takes forever for a "jailbreak" to be released. That's why I switched to Android 5 years ago.
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AOSP pie rom is released for nexus 5X,where are we on the list
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Why is there so much more development in the other carriers (att) then ours (verizon)?
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Why is there so much more development in the other carriers (att) then ours (verizon)?
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Probably because VZW just got the Note 2 less than a month ago and the bootloader was unlocked about three weeks ago. Other carriers have had the Note 2 for quite a bit longer.
Just my 2% of $1.00
You mean more carbon copy touchwiz ROMs?
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You mean more carbon copy touchwiz ROMs?
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Lulz, Aint that the truth.
Hopefully some other options get cooking for us soon.
Coming from the G Nexus where options were endless I'm having a tuff time satisfying my addiction.
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lmao @ Slick!.. I'd love to see imo's lean kernel over here for our ASOP Roms.
I tried to let people know about something different coming and it was shut down. Guess people are happy with only a few options. Yes the gnex was awesome as far as options it was really limitless choices.
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I tried to let people know about something different coming and it was shut down. Guess people are happy with only a few options. Yes the gnex was awesome as far as options it was really limitless choices.
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Indeed you did and that would be great!
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Probably because VZW just got the Note 2 less than a month ago and the bootloader was unlocked about three weeks ago. Other carriers have had the Note 2 for quite a bit longer.
Just my 2% of $1.00
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^This.
I just switched from T-Mobile & the HTC Sensation 4G a couple weeks after it came out (June 15th, 2011). It took about six months for development to really take off, and only recently (as in, the last few months - over a year since release) has CyanogenMod had stable releases of CM9. Nightlies for CM10 only came out last month.
Admittedly, Samsung devices have been getting much more attention that HTC devices from developers due to their popularity, but it'll still take time for our brand new device (it was released November 29th, recall) to get into enough developer's hands to start having lots of options. I think we can be confident that this will happen. Probably much quicker than any HTC device ever did.
In the meantime, we seem to be in much better shape than, say, the T-Mobile LG G2X (remember that device?). The stock software with that device - which was pretty much top-of-the-line when it was released - was nearly crippling. We have the best hardware out there and at worst adequate (I'd say more than adequate) software to tide us over until ROM developers unleash their magic.
I recommend patience - and maybe some encouragement to your favorite developer (in the form of financial support, that is - no ETA requests)!
These "carrier updates" are just getting ridiculous...
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This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2 but I highly doubt it goes past that,
HTC and Samsung have completely flipped stances on updates over the last 3 years and it is now HTC who gives their devices 6 month lifespans.
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This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2 but I highly doubt it goes past that,
HTC and Samsung have completely flipped stances on updates over the last 3 years and it is now HTC who gives their devices 6 month lifespans.
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this phone will be getting 4.2.2 for sure. HTC and llabtoofer confirmed. probably nothing official after that, but i think we'll see dev support for a long time with this phone. its pretty solid
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this phone will be getting 4.2.2 for sure. HTC and llabtoofer confirmed. probably nothing official after that, but i think we'll see dev support for a long time with this phone. its pretty solid
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Verizon seems to be putting all their support into Motorola, Samsung, and Apple.
I'll be shocked if we get 4.2.2 officially before the year ends.... if ever.
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Verizon seems to be putting all their support into Motorola, Samsung, and Apple.
I'll be shocked if we get 4.2.2 officially before the year ends.... if ever.
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its already confirmed. besides, after the verizon one comes out in august, we'll have a CDMA port of 4.2.2 anyway, so it wont even matter much
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its already confirmed. besides, after the verizon one comes out in august, we'll have a CDMA port of 4.2.2 anyway, so it wont even matter much
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Yea we will have a freshly baked cdma ril for our sense 5 ports. Yum
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so as the One gets updates, we can get ported updates for our DNAs as well?
I highly doubt they'll even consider updating this phone before the One gets 4.2.2/the One hype train dies down. At least a month after release I'd say.
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I highly doubt they'll even consider updating this phone before the One gets 4.2.2/the One hype train dies down. At least a month after release I'd say.
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It's really a shame that HTC has decided to never stand behind their devices and are on the verge of chapter 11 due to to it.
The 2 year old Galaxy S II is expected to get android 4.2.2 by the end of summer... possibly before the HTC One. The HTC phone that came out the same year as the GS2 was the Sensation and HTC left it dead on 4.0.3 ICS.
I will not buy another HTC device even though I have only had HTC's since the G1. I'm not sure if I want to go Samsung but I may not have a choice.
HTC should just get out of android and sign a Nokia like deal to make Windows junk.
It's half HTC, half Verizon... The butterfly (international version of our phones) got 4.2.2 with Sense 5! So there's hope. At the least someone figures out how to get it working on CDMA and we can flash it. Honestly all I want is ASOP 4.3. No bugs. I'll be content. Until 5.0 comes out seriously though. I'd rather get an iPhone over any Samsung phone. Then my phone will actually have good build quality. And I'd get updates when they're released. And I'd be extremely limited and forced to join the Apple cult... Oh the struggles. :banghead:
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It's really a shame that HTC has decided to never stand behind their devices and are on the verge of chapter 11 due to to it.
The 2 year old Galaxy S II is expected to get android 4.2.2 by the end of summer... possibly before the HTC One. The HTC phone that came out the same year as the GS2 was the Sensation and HTC left it dead on 4.0.3 ICS.
I will not buy another HTC device even though I have only had HTC's since the G1. I'm not sure if I want to go Samsung but I may not have a choice.
HTC should just get out of android and sign a Nokia like deal to make Windows junk.
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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That would be true if it weren't for the fact that other phones have seen long support on Verizon and other carriers. Don't have to look further than the Droid Bionic/RAZR to see that. Both shipped with 2.3 and have had 4.1 for quite some time now. Meanwhile, both the Incredible 4G and Rezound haven't gotten past ICS in around the same timeframe. The DNA is the last HTC I buy while I'm on Verizon, if it weren't for the fact that I'm S-Off and we have a great DEV community, I'd be out in a second.
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Honestly all I want is ASOP 4.3. No bugs. I'll be content.
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Oh is that all, not hard to please, are you?
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Oh is that all, not hard to please, are you?
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Well if they did that we wouldn't see another update at all, we aren't the high quality handset anymore.
It isn't Google's fault for how android gets distributed, it's carrier and manufacturer. I'd take development of custom roms and kernels over a single device being updated faster. To me that's just another ios device. If instant updates are a requirement then really only choices are nexus devices.
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Haha, yeah well its not like I'm asking for key lime pie the most frustrating thing about Android is how an update will roll on the Nexus devices and it takes months for any other device. Stupid fragmentation. HTC should focuses of a couple high quality handsets and stick with it. Maybe even one. Follow Apple.
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Apple has lost almost 50% of there stock value for that reason 1 device only. I will take the top notch devs we have over a free apple device any day. These guys kick ass. Thanks DNA DEVS.
I love our devs and more the better. The thing is there is so many devices not all can be supported. I mean the DNA isn't officially supported by CM or AOKP. The less fragmentation the better. And that Apple company that lost their stock? We'll they're the most profitable company in America. I hate their policies and their OS, but they offer timely updates, and a high quality device. Why? Because their billion dollar R&D budget goes to one phone. Not 17...
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The way I understand it is that HTC is more than willing to update devices, but the carriers are c-blocking everything. Makes sense too because why should Verizon allow updates to devices when they can sell a newer device and lock in more 2-year contracts.
What really bothers me is the super secret aspect of it all. Why can't they just come out and say what the plan is and tell us what their intent with updates are (HTC and Verizon). What is really killing them is the lack of information which leads to user frustration and people making up things like "Verizon promised that they were going to update the Rezound by June 1st PROMISED!!".
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Your post got me thinking...
How are the new upgrade programs these carriers offer going to effect android? Since you can upgrade every 6 months now will we even see updates at all?
Maybe it forces google to use motorola and lock down android.
Verizon won't update this phone. If they do then you have less of a reason to jump on the newer phones.
And to those confirmed rumors... The Rezound was confirmed JB as well. How'd that go?
If you want updates, leave Verizon and get a Nexus. Otherwise be happy with what you get from our community devs.
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I love our devs and more the better. The thing is there is so many devices not all can be supported. I mean the DNA isn't officially supported by CM or AOKP. The less fragmentation the better. And that Apple company that lost their stock? We'll they're the most profitable company in America. I hate their policies and their OS, but they offer timely updates, and a high quality device. Why? Because their billion dollar R&D budget goes to one phone. Not 17...
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Then go buy an iPhone. And u read the journal, they used to be the most profitable. The reason they are not is because they are a 1pony show. All the tech people are saying they are going down because of all the good android phones.
that LG, being that they built the Nexus 5, have been sitting on 4.4 for the G2 all this time, waiting for the N5 to arrive and then will release it to the G2?
One can dream, but this seems possible.
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that LG, being that they built the Nexus 5, have been sitting on 4.4 for the G2 all this time, waiting for the N5 to arrive and then will release it to the G2?
One can dream, but this seems possible.
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Of course it is possible. Frankly it seems more likely than us getting 4.3 as it could have launched with that, but didn't. Why? Well, either LG have learnt nothing the last few years and are still useless with updates, or, knowing they had 4.4 on their new Nexus device they may have been working on it all along and will simply skip 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 in a more timely manner.
But failing that, I'm sure a stock 4.4 ROM will find it's way on here in due course.
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that LG, being that they built the Nexus 5, have been sitting on 4.4 for the G2 all this time, waiting for the N5 to arrive and then will release it to the G2?
One can dream, but this seems possible.
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Interesting concept. It's definitely possible, and I would even venture to say it's likely. More and more companies are skipping android versions even without reasons to do so such as this. I hope this is the case!
I started a thread on the horrible MIUI forums to make XIaomi aware of how important it is for all of us that they release the kernel source. Bump it and come with input if you want to help:
http://en.miui.com/thread-273322-1-1.html
Good luck you will need it. They almost never post it and when they do it is broken or incomplete. That's why developers won't buy their devices.
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Good luck you will need it. They almost never post it and when they do it is broken or incomplete. That's why developers won't buy their devices.
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Custom Rom support for their earlier phones seems pretty good even if kernel source might not be totally complete. I have faith in the great devs and hope that xiaomi at least helps a little!
How quickly does usually OnePlus post their kernels?
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How quickly does usually OnePlus post their kernels?
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No idea. Most developers won't use their device.
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No idea. Most developers won't use their device.
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why's that?
there are even official CM nightlies:
http://get.cm/?device=onyx
http://get.cm/?device=bacon
and I saw other ROMs also.
if OnePlus 3 comes with rumored specs/price ($301 in China) and kernel is available soon enough, it could be pretty interesting alternative...
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why's that?
there are even official CM nightlies:
http://get.cm/?device=onyx
http://get.cm/?device=bacon
and I saw other ROMs also.
if OnePlus 3 comes with rumored specs/price ($301 in China) and kernel is available soon enough, it could be pretty interesting alternative...
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CM is slowly becoming the os for developing countries. Most roms no longer even use their source for anything.
Also you have to remember you get what you pay for. And every one plus device has had issues. Then add in the fact that they do things that upset people like their sexist ad campaign.
Yes a few roms for it. That comes from people buying the device and brining it up. The main developers for the roms never own them themselves.
You have to remember. Developers don't really care about the price of the device. If it is worth it they will pay for it. I can't blame them. I have paid full price for every device I have ever owned and they were always 700+. Takes a bit of saving. But if it's worth it then it's not a big deal.
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You mean by the manufacturers or by users? I don't know many besides oneplus that come with cyanogen
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Also you have to remember you get what you pay for. And every one plus device has had issues.
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I didn't buy a N5x because of all the reports about buggy screens, peeling paint and overheating, and its was a $300+ nexus device by LG, besides didn't oneplus fix those issues?
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Yes a few roms for it. That comes from people buying the device and brining it up. The main developers for the roms never own them themselves.
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Well that sucks
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You have to remember. Developers don't really care about the price of the device. If it is worth it they will pay for it. I can't blame them. I have paid full price for every device I have ever owned and they were always 700+. Takes a bit of saving. But if it's worth it then it's not a big deal.
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In many countries import taxes make a $700 phone cost over $2000, and I heard from a dev in brazil that they can't even import cellphones at all which is why apple had to build a factory to make iphones there or else they couldn't access that market, and is a big one
http://bgr.com/2016/06/02/2016-google-nexus-phones/
This could be good or bad.
It could be bad and me might have something like Samsung or LG and never get updates. (however, i dont think it will come to this as i feel that would take almost everything that makes a nexus a "nexus")
It could be good and the "Nexus" line might turn into something more along the lines of "Google Play Edition" or more like a Moto X style rom.
To me this makes much more sense. We still get the essence of pure android with a few cool tweaks.
If this were to be the case the number 1 thing i hope that comes out of it is that the OEM would provide the camera app instead of the garbage one Google has.
This was such the case with the HTC One M7 Google Play Edition (or was it an M8?)
And with HTC rumored to make the next set of Nexus phones we might just get that. Hopefully they dont use a garbage sensor though like HTC has recently been known to do.
What do you guys think this could mean?
We don't run "stock Android" now. All that article means is that the stock rom on Nexus phones will get more built in features.
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Nexus phones aren't selling well so they need something to give them more selling power. The average consumer sees Samsung phones etc with "amazing" feature so will buy that over a Nexus. The fact Google tried to market the 6P more at the mainstream shows that they're truing to get away from a developer type of phone and more features in the software shows this.Im not entirely happy with this, I'd rather have a pure Android phone and be able to the devs cook something better up rather than have a phone with unnecessary features which ultimately slow it down.
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We don't run "stock Android" now. All that article means is that the stock rom on Nexus phones will get more built in features.
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This.
I welcome new, proprietary features in Google's Android. I trust them not to bog down the OS like other OEM's do. After all, it's their OS.
This is great news and what might bring me back to a Nexus phone in the future. Stock Android is way too boring and feature thin imo. I definitely wouldn't mind features added by Google all while not bogging it down and keeping it lean.
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This is great news and what might bring me back to a Nexus phone in the future. Stock Android is way too boring and feature thin imo. I definitely wouldn't mind features added by Google all while not bogging it down and keeping it lean.
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Uhh how about no. The reason I stick with Nexus phones is for the pure android experience. This just says they don't understand their customer base at all, and are instead focused on the people who buy other phones (let them have their other phones).
Read this. It will help explain. Nexus phones are Google's Android complete with their proprietary apps and services. I happen to love it, but it is what it is.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06/02/its-time-to-let-the-phrase-stock-android-die-opinion/
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Uhh how about no. The reason I stick with Nexus phones is for the pure android experience. This just says they don't understand their customer base at all, and are instead focused on the people who buy other phones (let them have their other phones).
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I don't see it that way at all. I just see this as the next step in the evolution of android. Naturally more and more features are added. The current form of android is much more feature packed than, say, the version that came on the galaxy nexus and previous. Those earlier versions didn't even have quick settings tiles, even though the galaxy s phones did. Would you prefer to be that way still? I sure as hell couldn't do without QS in the drop down. So, if you prefer having those over not having them, then you need to accept the next step. Besides, quick settings are one of MANY features added since the start. Go back to an unmodified galaxy nexus, I'm sure you would hate it after having what you have now. Face it, features get added as the OS matures.
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I don't see it that way at all. I just see this as the next step in the evolution of android. Naturally more and more features are added. The current form of android is much more feature packed than, say, the version that came on the galaxy nexus and previous. Those earlier versions didn't even have quick settings tiles, even though the galaxy s phones did. Would you prefer to be that way still? I sure as hell couldn't do without QS in the drop down. So, if you prefer having those over not having them, then you need to accept the next step. Besides, quick settings are one of MANY features added since the start. Go back to an unmodified galaxy nexus, I'm sure you would hate it after having what you have now. Face it, features get added as the OS matures.
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Right but those are now base features of stock Marshmallow. What I don't want is Google building their own Touchwiz or something else that only the Nexus phones get. That's hardly what I see as the answer. I hate what Samsung, LG, etc. do to the OS on their phones. But I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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Read this. It will help explain. Nexus phones are Google's Android complete with their proprietary apps and services. I happen to love it, but it is what it is.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06/02/its-time-to-let-the-phrase-stock-android-die-opinion/
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Interesting article, but it seems more like a semantics issue than anything. I guess I fall into the group of "Stock Android" meaning as shipped on the Nexus phone by Google. But specifically in that it felt basically functional versus flashy and bloated like the rest of the manufacturers tend to shoot for. I don't want iOS, I don't want Touchwiz, I don't want any of the other variants. So to me it's like AOSP and Stock Android have blended and become synonymous to me. *shrugs*
I really think you're reading way too much into this. All the article says is that Google will be thoughtfully adding more features. Four years ago the quick settings tiles would have been one of these new features. Two years ago the fingerprint reader would have been one of these new features. This year with Android N multi-screen will be one of these new features. These have all been steps forward for Android, adding functionality and improving the UX. Adding new features doesn't mean they're going to add a skin or some of the bloaty crap that Samsung add, it just means new features.
This thread is just a huge facepalm..
Really if Google wants to slap a custom skin over stock android then who am I to care? Google always designs their devices to be customisable. So say you don't like it then you could flash a custom ROM built off of AOSP and you have what you wanted.
The Nexus line has always been built more for the developer crowd, but I have a feeling they're trying to reach out to your average consumer by adding "Features" while still appealing to the developers with the openness that they've always had.
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These assumptions don't make sense and you are reading too much into it. A custom skin? After all the money they spent and researching and developing Material Design? They won't change anything, they will add new features as times goes one. Android N is already an example of this. The design paradigm will change eventually, it will be an evolution to Material Design, just like Material Design succeeded Holo.
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There's always custom ROMs, as long as the bootloader's still easy to unlock who cares if they add more to stock rom, people will always create custom ROMs. If you don't know how to unlock and install a custom ROM then maybe a nexus just isn't for you.
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These assumptions don't make sense and you are reading too much into it. A custom skin? After all the money they spent and researching and developing Material Design? They won't change anything, they will add new features as times goes one. Android N is already an example of this. The design paradigm will change eventually, it will be an evolution to Material Design, just like Material Design succeeded Holo.
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The next change will be a huge one. Too many people complaining about the way MD looks. Even app developers are starting to refuse to use the MD guidelines. Can't say I blame them when people would rather pirate older versions instead of using the MD versions.
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There's always custom ROMs, as long as the bootloader's still easy to unlock who cares if they add more to stock rom, people will always create custom ROMs. If you don't know how to unlock and install a custom ROM then maybe a nexus just isn't for you.
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I wouldn't count on there always being roms. Google has even began not pushing fixes to aosp. Many developers are seeing this. Google will fix something in the release builds but never updating the code to aosp. So aosp stays broken.
zelendel said:
The next change will be a huge one. Too many people complaining about the way MD looks. Even app developers are starting to refuse to use the MD guidelines. Can't say I blame them when people would rather pirate older versions instead of using the MD versions.
I wouldn't count on there always being roms. Google has even began not pushing fixes to aosp. Many developers are seeing this. Google will fix something in the release builds but never updating the code to aosp. So aosp stays broken.
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Sources? That's doesn't seem right to me. MD apps are increasing day by day. If anything, only a niche of people complain about MD, and not because they don't like it, but because they tend to prefer apps not to change the design they have been used to for ages. Recently even Google said Material Design is being adopted at a really fast rate. It won't change any time soon, that is certain.
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sherlock5545 said:
Sources? That's doesn't seem right to me. MD apps are increasing day by day. If anything, only a niche of people complain about MD, and not because they don't like it, but because they tend to prefer apps not to change the design they have been used to for ages. Recently even Google said Material Design is being adopted at a really fast rate. It won't change any time soon, that is certain.
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Go look at the Google groups. The people that don't like it just really don't like it. It's not that they don't want things to change. MD is a running joke that people say should have a fisher price copyright to it lol
Me personally. I don't update any app that updates to the MD guidelines. I have like 15 apps with updates that will never be updated
zelendel said:
Go look at the Google groups. The people that don't like it just really don't like it. It's not that they don't want things to change. MD is a running joke that people say should have a fisher price copyright to it lol
Me personally. I don't update any app that updates to the MD guidelines. I have like 15 apps with updates that will never be updated
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So basically less than probably 1% of the users? Good joke. Luckily you aren't a designer and MD is growing faster than ever.
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sherlock5545 said:
So basically less than probably 1% of the users? Good joke. Luckily you aren't a designer and MD is growing faster than ever.
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Well considering the people here are the same percentage that mod their devices that is alot of people. I wouldnt call anyone that uses MD a designer. Not hard to find inspiration from a pre-K kids class lol.
I make my own themes and theme the apps on my phone so I personally dont have to worry about MD at all.
Its nots a surprise that alot of people like it. When their first thought of a phone is getting 5hr SOT (losers lol) and their first device was an iphone. What I and many devs find funny is that people were making fun of apple with the fruity design and yet its ok for google. And people wonder why devs dont take the average person seriously.
zelendel said:
Well considering the people here are the same percentage that mod their devices that is alot of people. I wouldnt call anyone that uses MD a designer. Not hard to find inspiration from a pre-K kids class lol.
I make my own themes and theme the apps on my phone so I personally dont have to worry about MD at all.
Its nots a surprise that alot of people like it. When their first thought of a phone is getting 5hr SOT (losers lol) and their first device was an iphone. What I and many devs find funny is that people were making fun of apple with the fruity design and yet its ok for google. And people wonder why devs dont take the average person seriously.
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Bollocks. Care to show some of these themes you make? lol
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Bollocks. Care to show some of these themes you make? lol
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You can find them around. They are all for personal use and I only share them with a few other devs and users on the site. Just have a look for Zelendel and gotham and you will find some older ones easy enough.
I never share my themes with normal users for reasons.