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I have been having this problem pretty much since day 1, I've also searched the Nokia Support Discussions and it seems quite a lot of people are experiencing this. I was actually surprised that my Go-To forum here at XDA doesn't have a thread on it.
My Black Lumia 920 (EE, Phones4U, Unlocked) reboots on average about 5 times a day. Yesterday was probably the worst yet with roughly 8 reboots. That may have been more noticeable to me because I used a SIM which requires a pin though.
What I've noticed:
-The device is roughly 10 days old.
-It has been rebooting an average of 5-8 times a day
-It mostly reboots when idle (so when I'm not using it)
-I've had it reboot only twice while in use when making a call
-I've had it reboot only once when playing music.
-I've only ever noticed it rebooting when it is face up
-Rebooting happens regardless of the SIM (although I have not used it without a SIM at all) (Used both a micro SIM and a SIM cut down to size, used the original carrier SIM and other SIM, no difference to rebooting behaviour)
-I only turn on the radios I need when I need them, so 2G active 100%, 3G/4G, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC off for 70% of the time.
-It is not due to battery drain as I usually have about 40% battery at the end of the day.
This has been my experience with the rebooting problem. The figures and estimates I'm giving are not over stating and I've tried giving as much detail so as to try and provide useful information for a solution.
Has anyone else been having this problem?
Has anyone found a working solution?
Has anyone heard or read anything concerning a fix for this?
nope - blue one on AT&T
I'd look at your installed apps, apps enabled to run in the background, etc. It should not be rebooting at all.
I have seen some posts like yours on the internets, but its not a "common" as in most 920s do it problem. Which leads me to think its some issue with an app or apps installed on some phones.
Possible solution
Hi kyrirhcp
I had a similar problem. I reset the phone which bricked it and then used this tutorial to un-brick it:
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-l...after-reset-flash-process-defined-inside.html
The only difference is that I downloaded the "Nokia Data Package Manager" (not sure where from but I'm sure you can find it). This software allows you to download the firmware files directly into the correct folder. You could also look at this tutorial:
http://aydon.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/how-to-flash-your-lumia-920english/
The ROM you want is the EE specific one. It even specifies the colour of the phone. The version number is: 1232.2110.1244.3011
If you reset the device and it does not brick (i.e. freeze up on reformat) then the problem is solved and you don't need to worry. If it bricks (which it probably will) then you need to flash to recover the phone.
God bless
andrew-in-woking
Hi Andrew, thanks for your suggestions but I'm avoiding it like the plague if I'm honest. Resetting my phone and risking a brick, even with your added fix tutorial really doesn't seem worth it. Also I'm assuming that the problem you PM'd me with regarding the loss of some functionality is a result of the fix you suggest. I'm not yet willing or ready to f with my device the same way as I did with my SGNote, even more so since developers haven't yet gotten the experience they have with android. Anyway, i seem to have perhaps solved the problem at least for my device. I changed the regional settings for a completely unrelated matter and I have not since had a single reset or the accompanying massive battery drain. It's now been 3 days. The only other change was that I removed tunein radio an reinstalled it. So it seems that my problem has been solved (fingers crossed, knock on wood, ftou ftou ftou, wearing an evil eye). I hope this helps others with their problems and makes this amazing device useable to those that had this problem.
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Try removing Whatsapp if you've got that installed.
I have had a lot of the same problems. My phone locks up a few times per day. This is the 2nd Lumia 920 I've had. After getting the second with the same problem, I decided to wait for the Portico update that was supposed to address random restarts.
Since then, I've been communicating with Nokia and Windows Phone support on twitter. All they suggest is uninstalling apps, disabling radios, contacting individual developers, and resetting your phone.
I have a hard time wrapping my mind around that. How is it possible for a user level application to take down the whole operating system/firmware?? There are plenty of crappy apps on the Windows Phone Store, I don't think it should be up to me to figure out which is destroying my experience.
I used to root/hack all my old Windows Mobile phones/android phones. When it locked up, it really was up to me to fix it and figure it out!! I chose Windows Phone since it had the locked ecosystem similar to Apple. While that may not appeal to everyone, I have a very busy life and I don't want to spend more time screwing with my phone. It just needs to work! This is my 3rd Windows phone and it's been the worst so far.
Hi guys.
My phone shuts down at random moments. I can boot it up again by holding the power button for about 10 seconds. Sometimes, not always, the phone feels hot and batterylife dropped. I have been struggling with this problem ever since i got this phone. I hoped to solve it with installing a new kernel and rom. I am now on Slimbean 3.1.0. The phone was initially on XLQ6 4.0.4. This didn't change anything, unfortunately.
I have also tried:
- removing external SD
- placing a new battery (which has no room to move, in case anyone suggests the battery might be moving)
- wiping caches
The strange thing is that my friend has bought his i9100 together with mine in the same order. He is also on XLQ6 and is experiencing the same issues. Less often than me, however.
My smalband is still on XLQ6. Is it possible that this causes my problems? Or is it more likely that my friend and me simply bought phones from a bad batch or something (hardware related)? I really don't want to send back my phone. That is my absolute last resort.
EDIT: Problem solved! Installing the application "Load Monitor" and enabling the "wake lock" function has done the trick. No more shutdowns or reboots!
Anyone?
2 devices with the same issue?
I'd be at the store where I bought it right now.
I will do that when I am absolutely sure that it is hardware related. However, if anyone has a potential solution I would really like to solve this issue myself.
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I will do that when I am absolutely sure that it is hardware related. However, if anyone has a potential solution I would really like to solve this issue myself.
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Same with me. change from 4.0.4 WLPT to 4.0.4 WLPY but problem still presists.
Does anyone know if changing smalband (if that is possible?) could make a difference? Because that is the only similarity to the original state of my phone. A lot of AT&T users in the USA experienced the same problems also with 4.0.4. However, nobody can come up with a solution.
Achtendertig said:
Does anyone know if changing smalband (if that is possible?) could make a difference? Because that is the only similarity to the original state of my phone. A lot of AT&T users in the USA experienced the same problems also with 4.0.4. However, nobody can come up with a solution.
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If it is heating near the camera, it's facing death soon.
If it is new and warranty isn't voided, why not flashing the carrier ROM and get a new one?
gastonw said:
If it is heating near the camera, it's facing death soon.
If it is new and warranty isn't voided, why not flashing the carrier ROM and get a new one?
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Because I don't like to lose my phone for a couple of weeks. And I prefer to fix these things myself. I have seen so many topics about this on XDA and Google. There must be a solution to it.
Is it possible that these problems are caused by my modem? That is the only unchanged thing since I have had this phone.
I might have found a possible solution. I've read something on a Dutch forum about sim-cards causing these issues. So I have placed a new sim-card and the problem hasn't appeared in the last 3 days. Before that, the problem was occuring about 3-6 times in one day. It's too early to say this has solved my problem, but it definitely made a difference so far. If it keeps functioning perfectly for the next couple of days I will close this topic.
Symptoms were merely reduced. Phone still shuts down approximately each 2 days. Much better than it was before though. Why would a sim-card change reduce, but not solve the problem? This is starting to hurt my brain.
Achtendertig said:
Symptoms were merely reduced. Phone still shuts down approximately each 2 days. Much better than it was before though. Why would a sim-card change reduce, but not solve the problem? This is starting to hurt my brain.
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You may experience sleep of death. What WiFi chipset do you have? I had the same issue on a Murata Wi-Fi chipset.
Yup, Murata chipset. I've googled some more on SoD. I have now installed an app called "Load Monitor" and enabled Wake Lock in preferences. This should prevent the phone from going into deep sleep, apparantly.
Some portugal carrier had a problem with lte sim card or something like that.
I really don't see how a sim card can actually mess with a phone.
Maybe the enabling of some features screws it up.
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Achtendertig said:
Yup, Murata chipset. I've googled some more on SoD. I have now installed an app called "Load Monitor" and enabled Wake Lock in preferences. This should prevent the phone from going into deep sleep, apparantly.
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In my case Samsung Service Team replaced the motherboard. My new MB has a Samsung Electronics wifi chipset. Two weeks now and no SoD.
That sounds good. However, ever since I have installed Load Monitor my phone runs fine. It drains approximately 40% of my entire battery, but it lasts easily until the end of the day.
But again, I shouldn't get too excited. Sim-card change seemed to work in the first few days as well.
Will be continued...
It has been over a week since I have installed Load Monitor. My phone hasn't shut down once. Problem appears to be solved! I hope more people will read this topic, because I have seen a lot of desperate people during my search to a solution.
The only disadvantage is the battery usage of the application. I now have approximately 40-50% at the end of the day instead of 60-70%.
Achtendertig said:
It has been over a week since I have installed Load Monitor. My phone hasn't shut down once. Problem appears to be solved! I hope more people will read this topic, because I have seen a lot of desperate people during my search to a solution.
The only disadvantage is the battery usage of the application. I now have approximately 40-50% at the end of the day instead of 60-70%.
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Unistall it.
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Unistall it.
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Because?
Mo' juice yo.
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I am unfortunately a bimbo when it comes to the mobile phones. I have tried to find an answer to my question, but I only found guesses, nothing spesific or helpful. I am hoping to find someone who understands the CPU/modem of Samsung phones, please bear with me!
Samsung Galaxy S II
GT-I9100
Android 4.1.2
Kernel 3.0.31-889555
Build JZ054K.I9100XWLSJ
Not sim-locked, not rooted. Purchaced in Finland September 2012, should be normal "untouched" phone.
Upgraded to Jellybean (right?) a couple of months ago by selecting the option from the phone. Kies and me, not working together. After every OS update I have done a factory reboot and installed the apps back, because some people on the forums have suggested it as a good precautionary measure. Things have always gone smoothly after updates.
The problem: Nowdays the phone overheats. It gets so hot that last time this happened the sim card got twisted and malformed. Also the battery drains fast when the phone gets hot. The hottest place on the phone is right under the camera lense (CPU?), not the battery. Most of the time wifi is on, mobile data off, GPS off and bluetooth off. Wifi signal is excellent.
This did not happen before Jellybean, otherwise I would only blame my extensive use of the phone. I have about 100-105 apps, Lookout, Juice Defender, about 10 news widgets, irc client, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, Photoapps, Picasa tool, Olivephone etc. I watch movies, write docs. The memory certainly is in use, and the data transfer is 3,76 GB in 6 days over wifi (according to My Data Manager app).
The posts I found, suggested that the problem might be in media scanner or modem, and indeed software related. Is there any way of knowing this for sure? How can I read data like CPU use, temperatures etc or is it even helpful? Any other possible reasons? Is there a way to fix the problem without rooting the phone? As a bimbo I am scared of going to that route, because things tend to go wrong. If someone suggests a fix by simply installing a modem, can you create a return point or somehow make sure things can get back to what they were? I can always ask the seller company, DNA Finland, but doubt they know anything, and if they want me to return the phone as malfunctioning one, I'll probably cry as it took some time to get used to this.
Thank you!
Try a different battery first. See if the issue persists.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
Sent from my SGS II
Heating
I get that alot too.
Usually when Im on Chrome surfing website the part of the camera lens gets soooo hot, I have to turn it off for it to cool down. I notice it happens alot when I'm outdoors.
What I do it I remove the battery and slot it back in let it cool down a bit before turning it on.
I'm at a lost too sometimes but nothing major so didn't bother. Does your battery drain very quickly when it is overheating? Mine does.
madbutnotstupid said:
I get that alot too.
Usually when Im on Chrome surfing website the part of the camera lens gets soooo hot, I have to turn it off for it to cool down. I notice it happens alot when I'm outdoors.
What I do it I remove the battery and slot it back in let it cool down a bit before turning it on.
I'm at a lost too sometimes but nothing major so didn't bother. Does your battery drain very quickly when it is overheating? Mine does.
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How old is ur battery?
Are u using any case or cover?
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
Sent from my SGS II
A useful response hopefully
androidfanfinland said:
I am unfortunately a bimbo when it comes to the mobile phones. I have tried to find an answer to my question, but I only found guesses, nothing spesific or helpful. I am hoping to find someone who understands the CPU/modem of Samsung phones, please bear with me!
Samsung Galaxy S II
GT-I9100
Android 4.1.2
Kernel 3.0.31-889555
Build JZ054K.I9100XWLSJ
Not sim-locked, not rooted. Purchaced in Finland September 2012, should be normal "untouched" phone.
Upgraded to Jellybean (right?) a couple of months ago by selecting the option from the phone. Kies and me, not working together. After every OS update I have done a factory reboot and installed the apps back, because some people on the forums have suggested it as a good precautionary measure. Things have always gone smoothly after updates.
The problem: Nowdays the phone overheats. It gets so hot that last time this happened the sim card got twisted and malformed. Also the battery drains fast when the phone gets hot. The hottest place on the phone is right under the camera lense (CPU?), not the battery. Most of the time wifi is on, mobile data off, GPS off and bluetooth off. Wifi signal is excellent.
This did not happen before Jellybean, otherwise I would only blame my extensive use of the phone. I have about 100-105 apps, Lookout, Juice Defender, about 10 news widgets, irc client, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, Photoapps, Picasa tool, Olivephone etc. I watch movies, write docs. The memory certainly is in use, and the data transfer is 3,76 GB in 6 days over wifi (according to My Data Manager app).
The posts I found, suggested that the problem might be in media scanner or modem, and indeed software related. Is there any way of knowing this for sure? How can I read data like CPU use, temperatures etc or is it even helpful? Any other possible reasons? Is there a way to fix the problem without rooting the phone? As a bimbo I am scared of going to that route, because things tend to go wrong. If someone suggests a fix by simply installing a modem, can you create a return point or somehow make sure things can get back to what they were? I can always ask the seller company, DNA Finland, but doubt they know anything, and if they want me to return the phone as malfunctioning one, I'll probably cry as it took some time to get used to this.
Thank you!
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No disrespect to to the other guys but their responses seemed pretty useless am I right? I've had some experience with this which is why I feel qualified to answer, hopefully if it's still an issue a couple of months since you posted that I may be of help.
It's not something you're going to find a permanent fix for and my best advice is report it to your manufactuer - it is VERY likely to be to do with the jellybean software itself and in terms of a long-term solution you can hope for a further update to be released (it appears to be quite a common problem since the latest upgrade a few months ago).
Now there are things you can do to reduce it. Once it runs dry of battery (switch it off occasionally if it's melting your sim in the process!). Plug it in and let it charge switched off to full capacity. Repeat this process once. You should find that the phone's temperature stays relatively healthy (as does the battery life for ... weeks ( sorry I can't predict how long, for me it was a 4 or 5 before I had to repeat process)
Anyway, to recap, reporting it is important. Unless they're formally told about it then there's no issue.
Another long term solution is to go back to stock ICS. This does not involve routing but does involve wiping the software putting a new one on from scratch. But if you've done factory resets then I'd say you've got enough know how for a stock rom flash, they're not difficult and you'll find plenty of assistance on how to do that on xda.
All the best.
I would try a different modem too.
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If you ask me, I'm a 100% inclined to the modem being the main cause for this. If you can, post the baseband number that appears under settings>> phone info. Baseband, modem and radio all refer to the same. It's good to know what modem you're using, I have a list of modems I've personally tested that resulted in overheating problems.
BTW you should try to fix this asap cuz this overheating messes you battery, it gets inflated. I've had some mayor overheating problems but never had a malformed SIM card. Sounds like you have a portable BBQ grill.
I honestly don't know if you can change modems without rooting your phone but I strongly recommend you root it. Changing modems on rooted SGS2s is a piece of cake.
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androidfanfinland said:
I am unfortunately a bimbo when it comes to the mobile phones. I have tried to find an answer to my question, but I only found guesses, nothing spesific or helpful. I am hoping to find someone who understands the CPU/modem of Samsung phones, please bear with me!
Samsung Galaxy S II
GT-I9100
Android 4.1.2
Kernel 3.0.31-889555
Build JZ054K.I9100XWLSJ
Not sim-locked, not rooted. Purchaced in Finland September 2012, should be normal "untouched" phone.
Upgraded to Jellybean (right?) a couple of months ago by selecting the option from the phone. Kies and me, not working together. After every OS update I have done a factory reboot and installed the apps back, because some people on the forums have suggested it as a good precautionary measure. Things have always gone smoothly after updates.
The problem: Nowdays the phone overheats. It gets so hot that last time this happened the sim card got twisted and malformed. Also the battery drains fast when the phone gets hot. The hottest place on the phone is right under the camera lense (CPU?), not the battery. Most of the time wifi is on, mobile data off, GPS off and bluetooth off. Wifi signal is excellent.
This did not happen before Jellybean, otherwise I would only blame my extensive use of the phone. I have about 100-105 apps, Lookout, Juice Defender, about 10 news widgets, irc client, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, Photoapps, Picasa tool, Olivephone etc. I watch movies, write docs. The memory certainly is in use, and the data transfer is 3,76 GB in 6 days over wifi (according to My Data Manager app).
The posts I found, suggested that the problem might be in media scanner or modem, and indeed software related. Is there any way of knowing this for sure? How can I read data like CPU use, temperatures etc or is it even helpful? Any other possible reasons? Is there a way to fix the problem without rooting the phone? As a bimbo I am scared of going to that route, because things tend to go wrong. If someone suggests a fix by simply installing a modem, can you create a return point or somehow make sure things can get back to what they were? I can always ask the seller company, DNA Finland, but doubt they know anything, and if they want me to return the phone as malfunctioning one, I'll probably cry as it took some time to get used to this.
Thank you!
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Same thing happend, exept that the battery overheats and it's very hot
is the battery worn out ? it got very hot last night and showed a warning message
If you've had the battery for a while, yeah, try a new one; particularly if the battery appears a bit 'swollen' or feels 'spongy' rather than firm like a new battery does.
I am using 4.3 ROM on any of my phones. and facing regular problems with few thing and those are bugging me bad.
My phone heats up a lot however battery performance has gone bad from worst and still not giving me more then 8 hours with very minimum usage.
Also, while charging, the battery would easily reach up to 47-48 degree Celsius within a minute or two due to which I always have to charge it while keeping it turned off.
Any idea what can be done to resolve it? I am too scared to do regular usage on my phone thinking it would drain out at important time and heating too much can cause severe damage to internals of the phone?
I am having a similar problem on my Galaxy S2 since upgrading to Jelly Bean. But the circumstances are different. If I keep the phone in my trouser pocket I find that it will occasionally become hot and will not respond to the on button. If I then take the battery out and immediately reinsert it the phone starts correctly but the battery will have run down appreciably (usually battery is only down by 10% in a day but after these episodes it will be down by 50% in only the few hours it has been in the trousers). The phone is set to start with a PIN number and Wifi, GPS and data are turned off. The overheating has never occurred if the phone is not in a pocket. I thought that some combination of button presses was causing the trouble so invested in a hard case - but this has not stopped the problem completely although it occurs less often.
The phone details are:
Model GT-I9100, Android 4.1.2, Baseband I9100XXLS8, Kernel 3.0.31-863787 [email protected]#3 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jan 3112:20:07, Build number JZ054K.I9100XXMS1
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Hi guys, I need your help please: I am using a HTC HD2 with WM6.5 stock ROM (RUU_Leo_S_hTC_Asia_WWE_3.14.707.3_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe) and nearly everytime I disconnect the battery the clock and date are jumping to another random value, sometimes even a week or two before the current date, time as well to any possible value.
Disconnecting the battery is unavoidable since the phone is sometimes completely freezing with black screen during a call and I cannot stop it in any other way but by disconnecting the battery. This might happen even once in 3 to 5 days. Besides that horrible locking, setting again the date and time is quite unpleasant.
As experiment I have removed the sim, powwered off the phone and the date and time stayed correct even after several days.
Anybody else having the same problem with clock and date while removing the battery?
Any solution somebody can share with me, please?
Thank you!
Hi There My Friend
axelTP2 said:
Hi guys, I need your help please: I am using a HTC HD2 with WM6.5 stock ROM (RUU_Leo_S_hTC_Asia_WWE_3.14.707.3_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship.exe) and nearly everytime I disconnect the battery the clock and date are jumping to another random value, sometimes even a week or two before the current date, time as well to any possible value.
Disconnecting the battery is unavoidable since the phone is sometimes completely freezing with black screen during a call and I cannot stop it in any other way but by disconnecting the battery. This might happen even once in 3 to 5 days. Besides that horrible locking, setting again the date and time is quite unpleasant.
As experiment I have removed the sim, powwered off the phone and the date and time stayed correct even after several days.
Anybody else having the same problem with clock and date while removing the battery?
Any solution somebody can share with me, please?
Thank you!
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My friend Maybe The Problem Is Related To HD2's Board Which Doesn't Have BIOS CLOCK Battery To Save Date And Time But You Can Try Android Or WPH Or Other Windows Mobile ROMs Like Energy / Artemis and etc. That May Help Avoid Freezes ... :laugh:
With Best Wishes
Hitman1376
The problem is that the internal tiny battery is dead so when you pull out the battery you reset the clock and even the date to original state. The problem with the call stuck can be solved very easily, just flash a newest Stock WM 6.5.2. But I will suggest to install Android and you will revive the HD2 and you do not believe what you can do again with you phone. Sorry to say but I can't believe you stay on WM6.5 this days, WM6.5 die long time ago.
Thank you guys for answering me.
What tiny bios battery are you talking about, this is a phone not a PC??? I've never heard on any smartphone about coin battery!!!
OK, I might be interested to try the Energy ROM, if you think that it will solve the problem, but what is exactly the element that will repair the bug that I am talking about? Which means anyway at the end of the day that this is a software (ROM) problem and not a hardware problem.
I have to stay with WM for certain compatibility issues, but I use the phone only for voice calls, SMS and mail, what else do I need a phone with small screen for? For the other things I have the Android tablet, I own also an Android new phone, so that's why I intend to keep WM6.5x on my HD2, it does the job.
And nobody answered if meeting the same problem on his WM6.5 HD2 phone. Is this a wellknown native HD2 problem?
Thanks again......
My friend, HD2 it a hell old device dinosaur with prehistoric hardware. Already the device have 5 years from the first release. All recent phones have a tiny battery inside to keep up clock and date and it's normal after all this years a kind of battery like that can die. Search before post.
Also your OS is compromise so if you format the phone and install new Rom this will fix and help the phone to work properely so you will not have freezings and yes is not hardware related. For the end is not a native problem, is random and for such a old phone is normal to have some problems.
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My friend, HD2 it a hell old device dinosaur with prehistoric hardware. Already the device have 5 years from the first release. All recent phones have a tiny battery inside to keep up clock and date and it's normal after all this years a kind of battery like that can die. Search before post.
Also your OS is compromise so if you format the phone and install new Rom this will fix and help the phone to work properely so you will not have freezings and yes is not hardware related. For the end is not a native problem, is random and for such a old phone is normal to have some problems.
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Thank you eclyptos! I take it that the photo is of an opened HD2.
If so, the solution to my clock & date problem is to replace that battery with a new one, isn't it? That is if not hard-soldered on the board. Is this an easy to find battery? I will open my HD2 one of these days. So far for the battery.
As for the freezing, the solution is to flash again the ROM, preferable a customized ROM, right?
Thank you again!
you could first try changing radio version as 2.15.50.14 (test one from my signature) was known to cause call drops & hanging in some roms including original released nbh updates.
if radio does not resolve it then going to latest HTC rom or a good custom rom should resolve it. Energy is good, I use an older Energy build as better compatibility to software we use, CleanEX is another good custom rom worth looking at.
All links including 2 links to older solid performing energy roms & the thread main links can be found in the HD2 Wiki
As for the time issue, if not resetting completely to original date when device was new it could be a bug as a few roms had this issue (even energy custom rom does), is also possible the time battery on mainboard is dead but have 7+ year old htc devices that still work fine so would suggest checking the cell for power reading with a good multimeter. Although if you get a good solid WM rom the time issue will not be a burden as will hardly if ever need pull battery & battery pulling should be a last resort only used if pushing & holding the soft reset pin fails to restart the device.
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axelTP2 said:
Thank you eclyptos! I take it that the photo is of an opened HD2.
If so, the solution to my clock & date problem is to replace that battery with a new one, isn't it? That is if not hard-soldered on the board. Is this an easy to find battery? I will open my HD2 one of these days. So far for the battery.
As for the freezing, the solution is to flash again the ROM, preferable a customized ROM, right?
Thank you again!
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My friend ... Replacing the battery isn't an easy task you know ? It deals with the phone's sensitive motherboard ... so I don't recommend to replace it yourself ... just prevent having freezes by switching the ROM ... ( Thats the best way )
With Best Wishes
Hitman1376
hitman1376 said:
My friend ... Replacing the battery isn't an easy task you know ? It deals with the phone's sensitive motherboard ... so I don't recommend to replace it yourself ... just prevent having freezes by switching the ROM ... ( Thats the best way )
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Yes, is true. You will never find the battery to replace yours, first of all, second the battery is welded to mainboard.
axelTP2 said:
Disconnecting the battery is unavoidable since the phone is sometimes completely freezing with black screen during a call and I cannot stop it in any other way but by disconnecting the battery.
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Below the battery cover there is a little reset button which reboots the phone. Use this instead of pulling the battery. Don't use a sharp object (damage), nor a pen or pencil (frequent use can cause build up of deposits). Pulling the battery and replacing frequently can bend the battery pins.
Hope this helps
Edit; oops, Mister B has already mentioned this, i missed it first reading.
Okay, a dual question here. One specific and one general but they are both related and one will help the other. Hopefully if anyone provides good answers others will find this post useful. I have a Asus Zenfone Selfie which has begun boot-looping. The phone is rooted and has TWRP installed. Once in a while it boots up as far as the home screen, then sometimes only up to the Asus logo. I have flashed several different ROMs (stock and custom) and again, it boots up to the setup screen then only up to the Asus logo so I was assuming this must mean it's hardware related. However, I can boot into TWRP and stay there for hours with no bootlooping. If it were hardware then it should bootloop for TWRP too so it must be software related, right? One more thing: I usually flash in TWRP but many times it crashes during the flash process. Sometimes it does succeed with no issues though. On my PC I might be running some disk or RAM checking tools to see if there was a bad sector or track on my hard drive or a bad module... Yeah, I'm confused. Why is it bootlooping and what, if anything, can I do to fix it?
This leads to my general question. Over the past 20 years I have had several phones, many of which ended up bootlooping. I know the LG G4 & G5 had a hardware flaw that cased them to bootloop and I know screwy flashes can cause bootlooping. But what about all my phones? Some were new, well, only a year or two old, some were 6 or 7 years old. Some were Android, some were Windows Phone. Some were rooted, some were unrooted, some were stock, some were custom ROMs. Some had updated or recently got new apps installed, others hadn't had anything new in ages. Some were in use when they started bootlooping, some were just sitting there. Some had a full charge on the battery, some were close to empty. What can be done to prevent this? What can be done once it has started, especially with one of these newer phones that they STUPIDLY like to make with sealed in batteries. And the given button combination just reboots the phone - again. Depending on who I talk to (or where I read) they say one thing or the other. It's software related. Okay, how? Why? I know on my PC Windows will sometime crash and reboot just for the hell of it, but that's usually just MS fixing an issue with a PC that runs too smoothly. And when that happens, it can be fixed. As an aside to any software developers reading this, I know you may not want to take the time to rewrite everything to work on Linux but you could take a little bit and make your software work with WINE, just a thought guys.
Anyway, so if it's software related, what can really be done to fix it? I can understand the big companies may like it if your phone bootloops so you'll need to buy a new one, but there are tons of developers out there making great custom ROMs. I know they don't have the resources to really fix all the bugs but I assume they would do a better job than certain big companies right? And why would the software suddenly crash like that? Sometimes literally NOTHING is happening, so why the sudden desire to bootloop? What about hardware? Can't we design software to work around the flaw? I would think manufacturers would want to fix problems to make their products as good as they can be but from what we have seen, I guess not. If you read my list above, many of those phones have nothing in common except the bootlooping. So where is the error coming from? Is there really nothing that we can do?
Any ideas and explanations would be appreciated, as would any help on my more recent bootloop device the Asus Zenfone Selfie Z00UD/z00T. Just to mention, that is a newer phone. It may not be now but it bootlooped probably a little over a year ago. It takes me a while to get around to things sometimes, like writing a letter to post on a forum. I had in mind to take it to this one repair shop (they had to replace the USB charging port maybe 3 months before the bootlooping so I assumed there might be a connection) but when I finally got there they told me it was software related and wouldn't look at it. Also, I don't want to make it sound like all my phones bootloop. I have had many many phones that died due to other issues and many more that are still in use, even old ones. I just want to try to understand and grasp any common factors that cause some phones to bootloop, and to maybe use that knowledge to prevent future phones from bootlooping even if I can't repair the ones that already do.
Thanks for your time in reading this and in advance for your answers. If you googled your way here, I hope there is info here that can help you too.