Recently I've been trying out various Android builds, and it's really handy being able to back up my entire system by just copying my SD contents to my computer.
Also, I have 2 SD cards, and it's great being able to play around with one and then easily go back to my 'stable' build on the other SD card.
Though the future aim is to enable Android to load from NAND, it's also quite cool being able to run from the SD card, specially for testing new builds & having a quick and easy way to return to a previous setup.
Could it be possible to 'flash' WinMo roms to an SD card?
After booting the WinMo rom installed to NAND, a small program apparently similar to HaRet could launch the ROM that is installed on the SD card.
If possible, what would be needed to make it happen?
Cheers!
WOW ! That now is a very good idea ! Would make things MUCH easier when trying out other ROMS though batt-drain would be higher when running from SDcard, but anyway it would be just for testing ..............
Yeah, I wouldn't be too concerned about the battery drain due to the fact it's just for testing, and that current Android builds seem pretty good with the battery even though they run from the SD.
Glad you like the idea too!
sorry chaps... not possible.
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sorry chaps... not possible.
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Could you please expand upon this (i.e. why it can not be possible)?
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Hi,
I am running Cyanogen 6.1 with APP2SD running, and have an 8GB SD Card with apps installed on it. I recently bought a new 16GB SD Card and was wondering how I duplicate the contents of my 8GB SD Card to the 16GB SD Card.
Any ideas would be VERY helpful.
I never tried, but I think it should be enough if you copy contents from the old one to the new one using a computer.
Sent from my HTC Hero
Unless you are using the native Froyo Apps-to-SD and not the old solution, then you can't just copy the files on a computer. Using the old system the apps are stored on a completely separated partition to what is shown when you mount your SD Card.
You can probably access that partition if you are using Linux, but having never used the old Apps2SD I can't check it myself.
I thought that might be the case. Linux laptop here I come!!
I recently bought a 16GB card and my Hero started to lag and restart SENSE randomly
Please reply to know if you have this issue
Hi,
I haven't put the 16GB in yet, as I have Apps installed to my 8GB SD Card and didn't know what to do (good job I have a linux based laptop really).
Sadly (not for me, but you know what I mean...) my ROM doesn't have SENSE. I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1.0.
What ROM are you running, I may know what the issue is?
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Hi,
I haven't put the 16GB in yet, as I have Apps installed to my 8GB SD Card and didn't know what to do (good job I have a linux based laptop really).
Sadly (not for me, but you know what I mean...) my ROM doesn't have SENSE. I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1.0.
What ROM are you running, I may know what the issue is?
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I am running the villainrom12 with sense and i have overclocked it to 352/652
I'm such a dumbass... what "class" is the SD Card? And which elements of the ROM are laggy?
I noticed that this is a 2.1 ROM...
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I'm such a dumbass... what "class" is the SD Card? And which elements of the ROM are laggy?
I noticed that this is a 2.1 ROM...
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I have a class4 memory card, and when i am launching some apps htc sense just force closes and the app i wanted to open just quits, after it is happened several times, htc senses starts to force close again and again until phone starts to lag and then hangs up.
From what I understand, VillainROM12 is a SENSE 2.1 ROM. I can't understand why this would lag, other than the implementation of SENSE isn't the patched version with the LAG fix. Early versions of SENSE were terrible and HTC had to release a patch to fix the lag issues.
The force close issue could either be down to the app timing out or something isn't installed properly. I can't really tell without installing VillainROM on my phone (I have CyanogenMOD 6.1 which, in my opinion, is flawless). My ROM isn't sense orientated, it uses apps like Launcher Pro plus (I think it comes with ADW.Launcher by default) instead of sense. ADW does have a theme pack to make it look like HTCs SENSE app.
I would suggest a couple of things;
Check available RAM
Back up your SD Card and reformat it as follows;
EXT2 = 512MB (You can use more, but you shouldn't need to)
(DO NOT use EXT3 or EXT4, these partition types are kernel dependent, and will lower the life of your card, they are intended for large partitions of like 50GB upwards)
SWAP = 0MB
FAT = The rest
I use AmonRA Recovery 1.7.0.1 which has a very useful partition SD card feature, better than ClockworkMods anyway (Evertime I partitioned a card in ClockworkMOD the phone refused to boot). Unfortunately if you have any apps installed to the SD card you may lose them unless you move them back to the phone (If you go Settings > Applications then click on "On SD Card" this will give you a list of "moved" apps).
Again, if you HAVEN'T got any apps on the SD card this could be the problem, as you are using ALL your phones RAM to store apps in, so like a PC running low on memory, no RAM means poor performance.
Try checking available resources before re-partitioning your SD Card. If you can't see what memory is available to you, try an app ion the market place called App 2 SD Free by Sam Lu, it's free, and gives you a readout of exactly what memory is being used (it also gives you a list of apps you CAN move to the SD card). I'd use it for diagnostics for now, as I don't know if VillainROM12 comes with APP2SD installed by default.
Try these out and let me know how you get on. PLEASE make a nandroid backup first, this CAN restore your SDCARD if the partition goes wrong.
Please be advised that I take no responsibility for any issues that may occur. I have performed all these tasks on my HTC Hero with no problems though.
I have tried these things but nothing helped. I have done everything the same with same type 8GB card and there was no problem, i think that HERO just cant handle 16GB but HTC says that it can support up to 32GB.
Malismalis said:
I have tried these things but nothing helped. I have done everything the same with same type 8GB card and there was no problem, i think that HERO just cant handle 16GB but HTC says that it can support up to 32GB.
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I can't really comment until I format my 16GB car and put it in (should be arriving this morning). Have you thought about another ROM? SENSE is notorious for causing lag. The guys at VillainROM also make FroydVillain (I think the latest version is 1.7.2). This doesn't have SENSE though, and you will need to backup your setting/messages/apps/and everything else first.
Backing up settings is slightly different to a nandroid. I recommend Backup Everything, as you can select what you want to back up. The only problem is you usually need to re-download the app on your new ROM to restore stuff, even if you backup apps too.
Update: Take a look at this thread for other ROMs
Sorry I can't be of more use...
I think I know this but I would like to make sure.
I flashed around 8 roms. My ? is can I delete old zip files of roms on my sd card?
I would appreciate any input.
Thanks
Budnick
No need to keep them on the card unless you want to reflash them.
Thats what I thought. Thanks for the speedy response
Budnick
Atleast keep the one you are using at the moment on there,also move the radio file out of the root of your sd card in case you need to boot in to recovery
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True, you don't need to keep any on the card when you're done. I always keep the one i'm testing, and the last stable rom that i LOVED ...(just in case!) but if you're short on space....just through it on your computer and save it there for a rainy day. or if you're totally committed...toss it !
Very good idea to put on compter
Thanks and have a nice day on the first day of summer!
I have just recently (5 hours ago) purchased a 16GB Tablet, that I had them repartition at the store, which has version 1.4.2.
I've spent the last few hours reading this forum and watching videos and now know WAY more than I ever intended to know about this tablet.
Rooting, dual OP, CM7, CM9, ROM, R3, Restore, etc. etc.
Due to so many warnings I've read about, I'm a little afraid to mess things up.
All I really want to do is install games I already have on my computer to the NT.
There were a couple of threads talking about this, but they were dealing with version 1.4.1. Not 1.4.2. I don't know how much of a difference there is.
Can someone suggest the best way to install these games?
Thanks for all the info you guys provide. It was hours of very informative reading.
i'm pretty sure games need memory ( storage ) and lots of it. tell us how much of the microhcsd you have available. did they leave you with one or six and a half gig ?
Unless you have an android computer/tablet with games from the play store or some other android market, the "games" you are referring to are not as easily transferable to an android tablet like the nook. The games have to be rewritten/redesigned for the android OS.
As for many of the warnings you've read, they are mostly to protect the person writing the guide. I.e. if you somehow manage to not follow directions and screw something up horribly, they want not responsibility for your mistakes. Honestly, 90% of them time in my experience with Android tinkering, Occam's razor holds true: the simplest answer is usually the right answer. And in terms of Android tinkering, that answer is user error.
So if you can read and follow directions and do a bit of troubleshooting here and there, you will be just fine.
My advice? Start with a bootable CM7 sd card. Go from there.
My apologies for lack of info.
After repartition, I was left with 5.91GB for B&N, and 8.00GB Other storage, plus 16GB SD Card.
Regarding games. All the games I want to use are all apk android games that I had from another android product.
Cubanluke88
The Bootable CM7 SD Card will boot from the card and leave the Tablet's OS alone? Is that correct? I guess this is where I'm confused. I think I read too much.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Rooting your device is like removing the old OS and replacing it with a new one?
Booting from CM7 SD Card will boot from the cards OS leaving the original OS on the device?
On one of the video's I watched, it was said "DO NOT FLASH ON THE 16GB Nook". I don't even know what that means, but I'll look it up and see if I can find out.
Thanks so much for helping a newbie who still doesn't know the terminology. I'll concentrate on reading about booting from CM7 SD Card.
Alright I'll try to address most of your confusion.
The bootable SD card essentially means you will not touch the current internal OS. You basically burn an image of CM7 to the card and when that card is inserted, the Nook will boot into CM7 instead of the B&N Android OS.
Rooting does not necessarily mean changing the internal OS. Because the B&N OS is Android based, and because Android is linux based, "root" is sort of the equivalent of administrative access on a Windows machine. It simply means you have full control of the device. Rooting the nook means the OS stays intact, but you can install the play store (Android market) and do all sorts of other things you are otherwise locked out of.
"Flash" is simply a techy way of saying install. When someone says "flash CM7 over the internal OS" they mean that you are installing CM7 (the custom version of Android that has been built) over the internal OS.
The safest thing for you is to create the bootable SD card of CM7 as it does not touch the internal OS. However, you can also create a bootable sd card for the custom recovery. From this custom recovery, you could then "flash" (install) CM7, CM9, or one of the other roms (custom OS) for the Nook tablet. It is also in this custom recovery that you can make a "nandroid backup" which is basically images of how your nook exists in its present form.
I know thats a lot of info. But honestly, before diving into this stuff, people should try to understand as much of that as possible. There are tons of resources out there that explain this stuff. Again, I suggest the bootable CM7 sd card as its the least likely to screw up. However, remember that should you go after the internal stuff, this thing is incredibly difficult to brick. Any mistake you make has likely already been made before and recovered from. So if something goes awry, don't panic.
Thats a lot of words. Damn.
It may have been a lot of words, but you've answered all of my questions and then some. I thank you very much for taking the time. This information helps tremendously and also makes so much more sense of what I read already.
Thanks Again.
That post deserved a thank. Really good description.
Sent from my R800x
We have started a very good community here, keep up people.
I should add one more thing.
Should you ever decide to go internal, i.e. flashing over the B&N OS, which IMO is the better way, its incredibly easy to return the device back to stock conditions should you ever need to (i.e. for warranty purposes or something).
I've done it myself just to make sure that its possible. And it is. Very easily.
I just wanted to come back and say Thank you!!
I was able to created the Bootable CM7 sd card and it went flawlessly.
I still have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm having fun looking around.
Thanks to this group of wonderful people, especially Cubanluke88m who still take the time to help even the virginal newbies who don't even know the lingo.
My hats off to this forum.
In the future I may in fact do this all internally, but I guess I needed to do it this way first just to see if I could. Now I feel much more comfortable with the files, burning images, etc. then before.
Congrats, enjoy.
The next thing I would recommend doing: make a clockwork mod recovery bootable card and make a nandroid backup of the internal OS.
ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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ok, will do. I will search for those now.
I do have a couple questions that I have searched for but I think I'm using the wrong search terms and not the correct lingo.
When I partitioned the sd card there was a tutorial for opening the card so you could use the rest of the memory, but it was for Linux? I've tried to search how to do this on PC, but again the lingo problem.
Also I have books and apps that I'd like to copy over, but do I have to put them in a certain directory on the SD Card, or do I still have access to the units directory.
I know these are stupid questions, I just don't know the right words to search for. Sorry about that. I know I can search for the two things you told me to do and they will probably come up. lol
Thanks again for all your help.
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It's fine, it's always better to ask first. Could save you a lot of trouble in the long run. Unlike lots of other users, you seem like you are willing to search and learn things which is always good!
You can regain the remainder of the storage after writing the CM7 .img to your SD card. To do this in Windows, you'll need to download and install either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master. I usually use Partition Wizard.
Unfortunately, while using the CM7 SD ROM, you won't have access to your apps and books from the stock ROM, so you'll want to transfer them to your storage inside the SD ROM. So I recommend copying the files to your computer, then connect your NT running the SD ROM. From there just copy the files to your SD card.
Hello, I would like to use some android apps on my nook 15 GB running 1.4.2 without rooting permenently. I need to make a SD card so I can revert back to my regular nook operating system. At age 70 the more I read the more confused I get, there is just too much information out there. Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
Hello, hope this vid helps (better than trying to read instructions).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjxZxHoUsY
Thanks for the link but...
I viewed the video but it seems to be about restoring to the original software. I guess I did not explain well that I have an unaltered nook tablet and have done nothing yet. I need first to create a sd card to insert and boot to. My understanding is that I then turn off, remove the card and reboot to access the B&N software with no permanent change to my nook. Is that possible with 1.4.2?
Perfectly possible and exactly what you should do. I'll find a link in a bit, busy at the moment.
If you run CM7 from an SD card you can do a power on start to CM7 and reboot back to native nook. Booting to the SD version does nothing to the internals of the nook. The following address should get you to the development thread for CM7 alpha final. Follow the instructions for the SD version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
I suggest a Sandisk Class 4 micro SD card. Depending on how much material you intend to download, get an appropriate size card. I am using an 8 GB and I have allocated all the leftover space to the last partition.
Directions are easy. Download the file and unzip to get the image. Use the win32diskimager program to write the image to the SD. CAUTION here be sure it is the SD that you write the image to. Google Mini Partition Wizard Home Edition and download the home edition noted as freeware to reallocate the SD space. That is simple as well. Go to the bottom partition and move the slider to the right and then save.
If you have specific questions please post and someone will respond.
Bill
I apologize for misunderstanding your original post, anyway here's another YouTube vid you can check out...hopefully this one works out for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKO8-seTLU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679089
Generally, if you follow the steps above (short of installing the Asian apps), you'll be fine. Easy 1/2 hour to 1 hour to go through the downloading of apps, OS, Root image, etc. to having a bootable Nook that's running off the MicroSD card.
Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
Keep in mind that Sandisk MicroSD cards are generally recommended for their stability, speed, and trouble free use. You can use other brands, but if you encounter an error with your new OS, use a Sandisk card instead.
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Keep in mind that ROOTing the Nook (easy, doesn't hurt) is needed to prevent B&N from disabling your external MicroSD card CM7 OS boot in the future. (You can skip ROOTing if you want to tempt fate later on however....)
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This is only really necessary if you think B&N will push some update that will affect the current method used to bypass the bootloader.
This would imply a level of intelligence I don't think them capable of.
aquarian1 said:
Is there a simple list of instructions with no exotic extras suggested and starting with the 1.4.2 OS?
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Hi, Aquarian1. I'm old, too.
Did you get it figured out? It really is fairly straightforward once you understand what each basic step is doing. You can practice repeatedly until you get comfortable without doing any harm or damage.
Let us know how it's going. The folks here are awesome. We'll get you there!
I've been running CM10.1.3 and mostly loving it.
The thing that bothers me is that my "external" SD card is essentially useless. The only thing I can do with it is manually copy files to and from.
Ideally, I'm looking for a solution that will allow me to install apps to my SD card (preferably by default, but I'd settle for being able to easily move them), as well as set it as my default storage location (that's less important) for everything except system apps. For example, I can't tell Chrome to do anything but download to the default location, so I need that default location to be where I want it so that I don't have to manually copy every single file Chrome downloads.
I understand there's a way to fool the OS into thinking that my SD card is actually the internal memory, but that doesn't solve my problem. I need to be able to selectively move apps and storage directories to the SD card, otherwise I'll have exactly the same problem I have now. My SD card is bigger than my internal memory, but the difference of 4gb doesn't really sound like a solution.
I feel like I've jumped through enough hoops getting CM10 to do what I need it to do, and I'm ready to abandon it for something new. I'll try anything; the only requirement is that I need to be able to install or move apps to my SD card. I don't need the OS to do it right in the app manager; If I have to use Rom Toolbox or Titanium Backup or some other app to do it, I'm fine with that. But that function of those apps doesn't work on CM10.
I understand that there are nightly builds of CM11 available for the Note 2, but they're listed as "unstable" for a reason, and I'm not sure (though not entirely against) I'm interested in having to flash up to the new build every couple days. I think I'd be pretty safe with CM, but I don't want to be stuck without some device function I consider vital because today's build borked it.
Part of me wants to be convinced that getting on the CM nightly train is worth my while, and part of me just wants to be given a solution of "here is the ROM you're looking for."
So is there a JB or KK ROM out there that will do what I need? Am I just boned until a CM11 RC shows up? Is there a reasonably sure-fire way to make CM10 do this (I've tried every one of a very long list of solutions and have had no success without wiping and reflashing)?