Ok I know its a slightly stupid question for some but reading through the threads I dont seem to see a definite answer.
Can someone tell me what we can do with unlocked and s-off that we can not do with unlocked and s-on?
Thanks.
brownsfan said:
Ok I know its a slightly stupid question for some but reading through the threads I dont seem to see a definite answer.
Can someone tell me what we can do with unlocked and s-off that we can not do with unlocked and s-on?
Thanks.
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pretty much the only thing you CAN'T do is flash radio firmwares.
No radios and it takes a few more steps to flash things like a kernel
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without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
No.
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
ok went through some of the other q&a's and didnt really find the answer i was looking for. i took the updates for the bootloader that were provided not ota. i still have my s-off but am now locked hboot 1.58.0000 radio 1.09.00.0706 adsp-v02.6.0.2226.00.0217 basically what i want to know is do i really have to do all this BS as stated on htcdev unlock method or is there an easier way to unlock my bootloader. i cant even restore nand backups because of bootlooping thanks for any help sorry if this sounds like a noob question but i mainly know enough to get me by and for awhile due to family issues i have kinda been out of the loop on things once again thank you.
You are s-off so there is no need to unlock the bootloader. S-Off > Unlocked.
I am unsure as to why your nandroid backups are bootlooping. My understanding is that they should work. Are they from ROMs based on the VM ICS leak?
Its possible one that I favored was cyanogen 9 idk if it was vm based or not thank you
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JCory88 said:
Its possible one that I favored was cyanogen 9 idk if it was vm based or not thank you
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If you like CM9, you could just downgrade your hboot to 1.4 and flash it. One of the luxuries of being s-off.
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I know, I know there is probably a thread about this already but, i really need help please!! I am trying to s-off and am wondering if i need to relock first? I am s-on running viper rez rom. What steps do i take please. couldnt find a straight answer after 4 hours of reading posts everywhere!!!
civydcex said:
I know, I know there is probably a thread about this already but, i really need help please!! I am trying to s-off and am wondering if i need to relock first? I am s-on running viper rez rom. What steps do i take please. couldnt find a straight answer after 4 hours of reading posts everywhere!!!
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Read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696394 it is pretty straight forward.
civydcex said:
I know, I know there is probably a thread about this already but, i really need help please!! I am trying to s-off and am wondering if i need to relock first? I am s-on running viper rez rom. What steps do i take please. couldnt find a straight answer after 4 hours of reading posts everywhere!!!
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If you need someone to walk you thru get me on gtalk I'd be more than happy to help. [email protected]
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I have searched a lot but have not yet found this answered, sorry if I missed something. I hope I posted this in the correct forum.
What is S-off vs S-on? I am already rooted with an unlocked bootloader and I am just trying to figure out if I should mess with S-off. So what is it and what are the advantages/disadvantages.
Thank-you very much,
Kienan
Kienan said:
I have searched a lot but have not yet found this answered, sorry if I missed something. I hope I posted this in the correct forum.
What is S-off vs S-on? I am already rooted with an unlocked bootloader and I am just trying to figure out if I should mess with S-off. So what is it and what are the advantages/disadvantages.
Thank-you very much,
Kienan
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S on= security on
S off= security off
The only advantage I can find for s off for a regular user is radio flashing and kernel flashing through recovery
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jose51197 said:
S on= security on
S off= security off
The only advantage I can find for s off for a regular user is radio flashing and kernel flashing through recovery
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Thank-you, this makes a lot of sense now. I do plan on flashing roms and kernels, but I have yet to learn about radio flashing.
Thanks again.
Kienan said:
I have searched a lot but have not yet found this answered, sorry if I missed something. I hope I posted this in the correct forum.
What is S-off vs S-on? I am already rooted with an unlocked bootloader and I am just trying to figure out if I should mess with S-off. So what is it and what are the advantages/disadvantages.
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S-OFF explained - by a Developer
mdmower said:
S-OFF explained - by a Developer
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Thanks, this helps a lot!
I'm curious if I should flash a 2.04, 2.06 or ENG HBoot, I don't really know the difference.
Don't flash any of them. Considering you needed to ask this question I would suggest leaving it alone.
Thanks for the **** answer, that makes 3 straight topics asking for help where I get none. Forget asking for help from this place.
EchoX860 said:
Thanks for the **** answer, that makes 3 straight topics asking for help where I get none. Forget asking for help from this place.
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Can you post what you need or want to accomplish by flashing these hboot images? Asking whether you should flash them is too broad.I'd say flash 2.06 if you need to unlock. However if you are asking for stability, a lot of builds seem to still use 2.04.
EchoX860 said:
Thanks for the **** answer, that makes 3 straight topics asking for help where I get none. Forget asking for help from this place.
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Honestly it wasn't a **** answer. You don't need to flash a hboot. And if your asking about them and don't know what they do or what they are you definitely don't need to as it can mess your device up.
EchoX860 said:
I'm curious if I should flash a 2.04, 2.06 or ENG HBoot, I don't really know the difference.
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Hi,
Pretty sure hboot versions for the DNA are in the 1.3x.xxxx range and not the 2.0.x range. You should probably check your sources.
-Hoovie
thehoovie said:
Hi,
Pretty sure hboot versions for the DNA are in the 1.3x.xxxx range and not the 2.0.x range. You should probably check your sources.
-Hoovie
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He's referring to the firmware update numbers and the hboot used there, not the hboot version number.
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