Is the only way of getting s off is with a tool or can it be done with software?
Go to http://unlimited.io and read about it there
Software and the wire trick.
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It's not difficult. Just read everything and make sure you understand before you start
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Only known method is with wire...no software only tricks. And because the current trick is working flawlessly, most likely we will never see a software only s-off.
Cares said:
because the current trick is working flawlessly,.
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for some people maybe, I have three Rezounds and I couldn't get it to work on any of them..........
jmorton10 said:
for some people maybe, I have three Rezounds and I couldn't get it to work on any of them..........
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Were you using a laptop? I couldn't get the wire trick to work while connected to my laptop to save my life. Con told me to try a desktop and got it second time. Guess not enough power on laptop
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jmorton10 said:
for some people maybe, I have three Rezounds and I couldn't get it to work on any of them..........
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Got it done on first try with a WinXP desktop.
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You s-off by reading the directions on the sites that have been referenced many times on this forum.
I got the wire trick on a bootcamped macbook pro running windows 7 32bit
took me like 30 minutes though.
Also worth noting that in this culture of Jailbreaking, S-Off, and Rooting, usually multiple developer teams start hacking the next generation devices, but only one vulnerability method is promoted and published at a time.
Why?
Because the OEMs are simultaneously trying to patch any security loopholes the community finds and locate more overlooked loopholes themselves.
If the public hack gets fixed on next round of software, there is a good possibility other unpublished methods will still be successful.
Gotta keep aces in the hole...
Hopefully the next OTA won't 'fix' this exploit. We shall see. I S-OFF'd with my HP laptop. Took me a little while and a couple tries. I had the video with the wire trick up to help me with the timing on it.
I never could get s-off I have a Mac and I couldn't get the wire timing right the few times I have had access to a pc... To be fair I used a rather short paper clip... Im still s-on :-(
Caladus said:
Hopefully the next OTA won't 'fix' this exploit. We shall see. I S-OFF'd with my HP laptop. Took me a little while and a couple tries. I had the video with the wire trick up to help me with the timing on it.
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My understanding was because of the physical nature of the phone a hardware change is required to prevent s-off.
Also when the OTA comes out if you are s-off it wont turn you s-on anyway. Once s-off always s-off unless you fasboot secure writeflag your bootloader...
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nosympathy said:
My understanding was because of the physical nature of the phone a hardware change is required to prevent s-off.
Also when the OTA comes out if you are s-off it wont turn you s-on anyway. Once s-off always s-off unless you fasboot secure writeflag your bootloader...
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^ All of this.
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AshtonTS said:
I never could get s-off I have a Mac and I couldn't get the wire timing right the few times I have had access to a pc... To be fair I used a rather short paper clip... Im still s-on :-(
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Just run xp in a virtual machine on your mac. There are xp torrents all over the place and It's simple to set up
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For me, the only difficult part of getting S-OFF was the timing. I kept moving my wire from one contact to the other and getting the "STILL SOBER" message on the CMD window. But I found it works more easily for me if I had the wire held onto the pin 1 contact and then tapped ground twice instead of the other way around like the video shows.
I also got S-OFF using my desktop, with Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and an 1100W PSU.
If you unlock & root with S-on... Is it possible to ever get OTA updates again?
Jonger1150 said:
If you unlock & root with S-on... Is it possible to ever get OTA updates again?
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Me think you can relock and run an ruu or somethings, to get it.
Evocm7 said:
Were you using a laptop? I couldn't get the wire trick to work while connected to my laptop to save my life. Con told me to try a desktop and got it second time. Guess not enough power on laptop
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Really? I got mine first try on a laptop
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platinumrims said:
Me think you can relock and run an ruu or somethings, to get it.
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Had to relock, and run an ruu to get my phone back after a botched s-off session this afternoon
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So after roughly a week and few days my 3vo which I had only two days with before sending in, is coming back with all new front assembly, very excited! Now I'm curious I have not gottena chance to root this phone but I do know it is on 1.5 hboot will that be a serious problem or is there a decent work around?
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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thizzlemania91 said:
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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you might throw up during the process though.
But it'll be a good puke! You'll feel refreshed and accomplished.
PatrickHuey said:
you might throw up during the process though.
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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Realize you are excited OP, but did you need another thread for your repair story?
Here is link to downgrade hboot when you do get it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Wolf Counselor said:
Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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After coming from rooting my LG (press a button in superonclick to root, then running a batch file to put on CWM), the htc is a mega pain to get access.
The common theme I've noticed after being in 3 different sub-forums is that all users complain about the manufacturers not releasing code. I'm not surprised the companies don't but it makes everything so hard. So just realise it isn't just HTC being a pain it's pretty much every company.
Very glad that there is hope for 1.5's Hbooters I do wonder what hboot version HTC will try to enforce on the E3D when ICS comes via OTA.
i do not have a windows computer so i cant get s off.
which means i cant get ICS on my amaze.
this made me sad but then i thought that once flashable roms come out i will be able to just do that but i heard that i still need to be s off.
will someone shed some light on my problem or will i just have to face the truth
S-OFF Needed...
so face it....xD
Xboarder is making a flashable zip that's debloated and rooted.
DAMN YOU MAC
and you were supposed to be the answer to all my problems!
sigh
oh well. i dont mind ill probably just go back to my mytouch 4g, the dev support is pretty much equal on both.
i had such high hopes for this phone
You dont need s-off to flash the ics ruu. Countless people with stock none s-off, none rooted amaze have flashed the ruu perfectly fine through hboot.
Read through the ics ruu thread, they have alot of explenations there.
coupetastic-droid said:
You dont need s-off to flash the ics ruu. Countless people with stock none s-off, none rooted amaze have flashed the ruu perfectly fine through hboot.
Read through the ics ruu thread, they have alot of explenations there.
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The only part is, it can prevent from doing S-Off if you flash it without it. Also, if you have to send the phone in to T-Mobile for warranty, it'll void it.
well...
would i still be able to retain root after flashing with s-on
also on a side note, even if i am rooted, will i be able to send my phone in for repairs and still have it under warranty because i still have like another year and a half with this phone and part of the phones screen doesnt work anymore.
dude, just run a virtual box of windows on your mac.... PROBLEM SOLVED
familydude99 said:
would i still be able to retain root after flashing with s-on
also on a side note, even if i am rooted, will i be able to send my phone in for repairs and still have it under warranty because i still have like another year and a half with this phone and part of the phones screen doesnt work anymore.
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yes you would still be able to obtain root.
I have ics s-on unlocked and rooted with recovery
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i dont see a point to S-OFF
they will make it compatible with Amaze ICS, they did it for the sensation and Rezound, so there will always be a way to get S-OFF when the official release is available
so the only disadvantages of not having s off and getting ics is
because so many people had made it sound like your phone will explode if its not s off
thanks everybody for the help, thanks button will be clicked!
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The only part is, it can prevent from doing S-Off if you flash it without it. Also, if you have to send the phone in to T-Mobile for warranty, it'll void it.
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....um if u do s-off you void your warranty.
bmbrad said:
....um if u do s-off you void your warranty.
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If u unlock bootloader u void it
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S-Off can be reflagged to S-On. HTC keeps a record of unlocked, which does void your warranty if they prove used, which they can't and it is not in the fine print that they have the right to find out if used. So, in theory, you're pretty much safe for warranty which has been proved in Rezound and Sensation forums for unlocked users. The only problem is if you crash before it is able to get S-On through ADB. If they actually check, you may end up with an insurance claim instead. Its not as bad or harsh as they make it sound. We make up maybe 1% of Android users and a slightly larger percent of HTC users.
Edit: An HBOOT can be edit to remove tampered, show locked and then device reflagged to be proper.
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familydude99 said:
i do not have a windows computer so i cant get s off.
which means i cant get ICS on my amaze.
this made me sad but then i thought that once flashable roms come out i will be able to just do that but i heard that i still need to be s off.
will someone shed some light on my problem or will i just have to face the truth
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Just virtualbox win7 or linux or dual boot
sportsstar89 said:
Just virtualbox win7 or linux or dual boot
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I hate to advocate piracy, but...
1: pirate Xp
2: install inside Virtualbox
3:........
4: profit
Or, you know, find someone else with a windows (or preferably linux) computer.
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VVVV or do what sportsstar89 said below this, Virtualbox with Linux, the S-Off tool worked flawlessly in Ubuntu for me.
jmhalder said:
I hate to advocate piracy, but...
1: pirate Xp
2: install inside Virtualbox
3:........
4: profit
Or, you know, find someone else with a windows (or preferably linux) computer.
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Don't even pirate just dl ubuntu and put it in a virtual box there is a linux version
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Ended up bricking my phone using Lazy Panda, and could not even get it to power on. It was taking too long to d/l Ubuntu, so, I decided that in the time it would take me to get it all going, I could jump over to BB and utilize my black tie protection and swap it out, lol. And now, a new Evo to play with. Guess I'll wait for a safer s-off method.
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Ended up bricking my phone using Lazy Panda, and could not even get it to power on. It was taking too long to d/l Ubuntu, so, I decided that in the time it would take me to get it all going, I could jump over to BB and utilize my black tie protection and swap it out, lol. And now, a new Evo to play with. Guess I'll wait for a safer s-off method.
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Windows? Mac? What were you using? Were you S-On or S-off? Unlocked by HTC or another method.
I was Htc unlocked, S-On and used lazy panda for Windows and had zero issues. Took all of about 8 mins and i was S-off. really simple.
swaze said:
Windows? Mac? What were you using? Were you S-On or S-off? Unlocked by HTC or another method.
I was Htc unlocked, S-On and used lazy panda for Windows and had zero issues. Took all of about 8 mins and i was S-off. really simple.
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I am now S-off using Lazy Panda. I was Regaw unlocked, while on Mean 1.3. I tried this again using stock right after regaw unlocker and worked flawless.
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I am now S-off using Lazy Panda. I was Regaw unlocked, while on Mean 1.3. I tried this again using stock right after regaw unlocker and worked flawless.
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Why would you run the Regaw unlocker before running LazyPanda?? LazyPanda doesn't void ur warranty like the Regaw HTC method....
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SPreston2001 said:
Why would you run the Regaw unlocker before running LazyPanda?? LazyPanda doesn't void ur warranty like the Regaw HTC method....
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You have to have root before you can use lazypanda for s- off
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SPreston2001 said:
Why would you run the Regaw unlocker before running LazyPanda?? LazyPanda doesn't void ur warranty like the Regaw HTC method....
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Nobody uses the HTC warranty. It's pretty useless.
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Feed Panda with VM
I completed the s-off proceedure using an ubuntu vm in vmware on my Mac. If you are going to do this make sure you set the USB setting for the ubuntu vm to Always connect USB devices to it (the vm) instead of the host.
The only other thing that happened was after the panda was fed I started getting an error 16 when making phone calls and people could not call me. A quick call to Sprint, telling them after a hard reset I started getting the error they put me back on the network and everything is good.
One more bit of info, I tried to feed the panda on my old mac mini g4 that is running linux instead of OSX and received an expected ( error. Which points to not having the right libraries installed, 64 vs 32 but I think it has to do more with the processor architecture (g4 vs i386).
Hey guys, finally upgraded to the LTE after having the original EVO since launch day. Anyway, I just got the phone yesterday and a notification keeps pestering me to take a "system update." I wish to root in the future, so am I right in assuming I shouldn't take this? If so, how do I dismiss the notification? Thanks. Sorry if this is noobish, I haven't been in the game for a while.
You should be fine to root regardless.
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Hey guys, finally upgraded to the LTE after having the original EVO since launch day. Anyway, I just got the phone yesterday and a notification keeps pestering me to take a "system update." I wish to root in the future, so am I right in assuming I shouldn't take this? If so, how do I dismiss the notification? Thanks. Sorry if this is noobish, I haven't been in the game for a while.
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I would decline the update. Check your hboot number and proceed from there if you're planning to obtain S-OFF.
Yea, if you have hboot 1.12, don't update. If I were you and it was hboot 1.12, I would root and s-off, then flash the latest stock rooted rom
Decline the update if you planning on getting root and S-off. is more easy to achieve it with the olders software.
check the threat below!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
[URL="http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13192-FIRMWARE-S-OFF-1-
12-HBOOT-ONLY-Jewel-Firmware-Collection-Latest-Radio-1-12-11-0809"]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123[/URL]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
You can downgrade from the other hboots but it is a pain. If your looking to just root though you'll be fine.
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There is actually S-OFF methods for all HBOOTs (1.12,1.15, and 1.19). If you are still on HBOOT 1.12 use lazypanda. If you are on anything higher just use dirtyracun.
Thanks everyone. I definitely plan on attaining S-off. I'm on hboot 1.15.
This community is awesome.
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I always wait a week before updating, unless you want done of the nasty surprise.
Dirty racun seems really intimidating. I Only have 64-bit windows 7 computers and no blank cd to run ubuntu anyway so I'm out of luck. Is flashing roms with s-on easier than gaining s-off? I'm considering working that way instead.
lakers1624 said:
Hey guys, finally upgraded to the LTE after having the original EVO since launch day. Anyway, I just got the phone yesterday and a notification keeps pestering me to take a "system update." I wish to root in the future, so am I right in assuming I shouldn't take this? If so, how do I dismiss the notification? Thanks. Sorry if this is noobish, I haven't been in the game for a while.
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You can also turn the update notification off by going to settings/system updates/HTC software updates and remove the checkmark problem solved
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miranda916 said:
Dirty racun seems really intimidating. I Only have 64-bit windows 7 computers and no blank cd to run ubuntu anyway so I'm out of luck. Is flashing roms with s-on easier than gaining s-off? I'm considering working that way instead.
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I saw one guy say he used win 7- 64 bit and was successful.... but I would follow the recommendations in the DirtyRacun thread just to be safe
Haha I want to try that so bad seeing as I have very few other options. But if anything goes wrong they're just gonna say I didn't follow directions. I'm really tempted to take the plunge though.
miranda916 said:
Dirty racun seems really intimidating. I Only have 64-bit windows 7 computers and no blank cd to run ubuntu anyway so I'm out of luck. Is flashing roms with s-on easier than gaining s-off? I'm considering working that way instead.
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You dont need a blank cd to boot ubuntu, you can do it right of a usb memory stick.
I was going to try that, but I read through the thread and lady x was pretty adamant about USB sticks causing some sort of problem that they wouldn't help with.
miranda916 said:
I was going to try that, but I read through the thread and lady x was pretty adamant about USB sticks causing some sort of problem that they wouldn't help with.
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What u can do is create a vhd or another partition and run ubuntu on a USB and install it on the VHD/partition. Then reboot into it and follow the process. When ur done its as simple as removing the VHD/Partition and readding the space back to ur main HDD
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I was going to try that, but I read through the thread and lady x was pretty adamant about USB sticks causing some sort of problem that they wouldn't help with.
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I do it all the time, never had a problem.
I unlocked my bootloader and now I'm waiting for s-off to make it look like it was untampered. I seen a while ago someone figured it out but there's been no news since. Anyone heard anything?
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Nope - Still waiting. I suspect that someone is working on a user friendly way to implement it. It's one thing to achieve it, but another to make the method available to the average user (Like me).
I'm an average user but I'd rather have a hard-ish way so I can learn. Hopefully it can be done on ubuntu.
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spitfire2425 said:
I'm an average user but I'd rather have a hard-ish way so I can learn. Hopefully it can be done on ubuntu.
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As long as we don't have to attach any wires to anything or take anything apart I can handle whatever the method
gunnyman said:
As long as we don't have to attach any wires to anything or take anything apart I can handle whatever the method
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Coming from the rezound which required a wire exploit to get s off.... Bring it on lol
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I'd rather not take it apart, I'm afraid I couldn't get back together. Lol
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Squirrel1620 said:
Coming from the rezound which required a wire exploit to get s off.... Bring it on lol
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I read it was all done in software.
Napoleon_PhoneApart said:
I read it was all done in software.
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It was both, a custom hboot that was flashed in download mode which was achieved by connecting a wire to two contact points on the back of the phone. The custom hboot did the s off and then you just overwrite with stock hboot and voilla, s off
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Squirrel1620 said:
It was both, a custom hboot that was flashed in download mode which was achieved by connecting a wire to two contact points on the back of the phone. The custom hboot did the s off and then you just overwrite with stock hboot and voilla, s off
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I guess the folks that figured it out are still working the on the bugs in the system before they release it to us masses. After mastering the "wire" trick on my Rezound also, I'm pretty sure I can handle it as long as there's a reasonable certainty I won't brick my phone.